Amazon Agrees To Drop Prime Cancellation 'Dark Patterns' in Europe (techcrunch.com) 46
Amazon has agreed to simplify the process required for cancelling its Prime membership subscription service across its sites in the European Union, both on desktop and mobile interfaces, following a series of complaints from regional consumer protection groups. From a report: The coordinated complaints about Amazon's confusing and convoluted cancellation process for Prime were announced back in April 2021 -- so it's taken just over a year for the e-commerce giant to agree to change its ways.
Following the engagement with EU regulators, the Commission said today that Amazon started to make some revisions to the Prime web interface -- such as labelling the cancel button more clearly and shortening the explanatory text -- but today's announcement is that it has agreed to further simplify the experience by further reducing the text so consumers do not get distracted by warnings and deterred from cancelling.
Following the engagement with EU regulators, the Commission said today that Amazon started to make some revisions to the Prime web interface -- such as labelling the cancel button more clearly and shortening the explanatory text -- but today's announcement is that it has agreed to further simplify the experience by further reducing the text so consumers do not get distracted by warnings and deterred from cancelling.
In the USA however (Score:2)
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Finding the button is not the problem. The problem are the 10 following dialogs asking in cryptic ways for you confirm you are certain while threatening you with doom and gloom.
Re: In the USA however (Score:1)
Simplified the rules to just press a button. (Score:2)
That button is at the bottom of the filing cabinet in the dark unlit basement of the highways department guarded by leopards, but the button is there.
They should ban one-click-to-buy if there is no simple one-click-to-unbuy
Re: Simplified the rules to just press a button. (Score:2)
Exactly, but that's already part of the law in the Netherlands. If you buy remotely, you must be able to cancel remotely too. And consumer protection agencies are now clarifying what that means.
Re: Simplified the rules to just press a button. (Score:1)
Welcome Eagles fans (Score:3)
Looks like Amazon have created their own Hotel California
Confusing? (Score:5, Interesting)
I didn't find it particularly confusing (I sometimes take a free trial when available and cancel it a month later).
It goes through steps of "we are sorry to see you go, you will lose this and that, etc..." but for me, it is fair game. No bullshit like delays, registered mail, calling support that is never available, etc... Three clicks and done, and best of all, if you forget the deadline and didn't use Prime services during that time, you get your money back.
I live in France and I have seen much much worse. The government had to intervene and absurd cancellation procedures are less common than they once were, but still I wish it was always as simple as cancelling Amazon Prime.
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Re:Confusing? (Score:4, Informative)
The last half is pretty straight forward (as GuB-42 mentioned). Finding where to begin was a pain.
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I went to
My Account
Prime membership
How do I cancel my Amazon Prime membership and get a refund?
There is a cancelation link there
https://www.amazon.com/mc/pipe... [amazon.com]
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Do you have a government job? Maybe they target people based on what they know about them?
Here is what I see: https://paste.pics/e40b427840e... [paste.pics]
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Prime is top right option on that screen. Does that not proceed from there?
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Asshole design in action.
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I've tried canceling the free trials they periodically give me and sometimes it's just a bunch of hoops, annoying but annoying, and other times they pull some really underhanded shit like having the entire UI rigged to trick you into clicking the wrong thing. The worst was several pages in a row that kept reversing the cancel membership/don't cancel links and always making the cancel-membership links tiny text while the don't-cancel links were made up to look like buttons and worded in a way that sounded li
Re: Confusing? (Score:1)
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It should be as easy to quit as to sign up.
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I didn't find it particularly confusing
Corporations pray on the weak and stupid with these tactics. These practices aren't particularly confusing to those people who have seen and navigated far worse, but they can be quite daunting for others who experience it first time.
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I was a bit curious what the process looked like, so I initiated the process to cancel Prime. The most prominent view was a summary of exactly how many times over the past year I used Prime services, with an indicator at the top that this was a three-step procedure, with you at step one of three. There were three distinct yellow buttons below that.
Two of three initial buttons (Remind Me Later, Keep My Benefits) that did NOT continue, while one button continues the three-step process. And the two "no canc
Re:Confusing? (Score:4, Informative)
Correction: The "Cancel" button is actually labeled "Cancel My Benefits". It's still a bit confusing, IMO, in that you're trying to cancel Prime, not some "benefits." "Cancel Prime Subscription" would be completely unambiguous, so obviously they wouldn't do that.
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Probably because "Prime" button is labelled "benefits and payment settings".
You really want to fix this crap? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Single-use credit cards can help somewhat.
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Single-use credit cards can help somewhat.
Forget that. Never sign up to a free trial that requires a credit card. If you need a credit card it's not going to be a trial and it sure as shit wont be free.
Re: You really want to fix this crap? (Score:1)
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UK? (Score:2)
It's going to be interesting to see if Amazon does the same for the UK now it's no longer an EU country.
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Nah, they have to be punished for leaving the EU in more ways than one :P
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There is already going to plenty of pain from that self-inflicted wound:
https://www.theguardian.com/po... [theguardian.com]
https://www.express.co.uk/news... [express.co.uk]
https://www.bbc.com/news/busin... [bbc.com]
Funny (Score:3)
Re: Funny (Score:2)
The problem was there was prior art and they couldn't patent it.
Fine Them A Year of Prime Subscription Fees (Score:2)
Penalties for bad corporate behavior should be very costly to the corporation, none of this "steal a billion, pay a ten million fine, but keep the billion" cr@p.
The cost for this deliberately sluggish behavior should be to forfeit all prime subscription fees for the period they dragged their feet.
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what about US? (Score:3)
I cancelled a few months ago and was surprised that it took five pages in order to cancel. It not paying attention, it would be easy to think you were done after each page. It used to be so simple - just one click.
I am willing to bet, Amazon will find ways around the EU required changes.
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Or just pay the (relatively) small fine because they do the math and decide that it costs less to keep the obscured cancellation process than to meet demands. At least for a while.
Re: what about US? (Score:1)
I accidentally subscribed to Prime (Score:1)
due to a confusing UI, most likely intentionally designed to be confusing, i.e. dark patterns.
Amazon has a real problem there.
They also try to trick you into more expensive shipping.
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And then there's the pestering of non-subscribers (Score:2)
What's maybe even more annoying than the artificial hurdles for cancelling are Amazon's permanent attempts to bully non-subscribers to subscribe with additional pages they have to click away before they can even submit a simple order.