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Hedge Fund That Bet Against GameStop Shuts Down (ft.com) 65

A London-based hedge fund that suffered losses betting against US retailer GameStop during the first meme stock rally in January is shutting its doors [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; alternative source]. From a report: White Square Capital, run by former Paulson & Co trader Florian Kronawitter, told investors that it would shut its main fund and return capital this month after a review of its business model, according to people familiar with the fund and a letter to investors. White Square, which at its peak managed about $440m in assets, had bet against GameStop, say people familiar with its positioning, and suffered double-digit per cent losses in January.

The move marks one of the first closures of a hedge fund hit by the huge surges in so-called meme stocks. Retail investors, often co-ordinating their actions on online forums such as Reddit's r/WallStreetBets and in some cases deliberately targeting hedge fund short sellers, drove up the price of stocks such as GameStop and cinema chain AMC Entertainment in January and again in recent weeks. GameStop, for instance, soared from less than $20 at the start of the year to more than $480 at its January peak. That led to big losses for some funds, including US-based Melvin Capital, run by Steve Cohen protege Gabe Plotkin, and Light Street Capital, run by Glen Kacher, a former Tiger cub who worked at Julian Robertson's Tiger Management. However, the funds remain in operation, and shortly after its losses Melvin received a $2.75bn investment from Cohen's Point72 Asset Management and Ken Griffin's Citadel. "The decision to close down is related to thinking the equity long-short model is challenged," said Kronawitter.

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Hedge Fund That Bet Against GameStop Shuts Down

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  • by gosso920 ( 6330142 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @09:53AM (#61510002)
    Diamond hands FTW.
  • I'm sure it has nothing to do with the hedge model charging exorbitant active management fees for not outperforming the market.

    • Partially (Score:5, Informative)

      by JBMcB ( 73720 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:09AM (#61510036)

      That's partially the reason. Some hedge funds do outperform the market. Some don't.

      In any case, I think the business model of telegraphing the fact that you are going to buy huge amounts of stock to cover a short position in a given time frame is going to go away. All this stuff is public information. The big players don't like the fact that the small investors can gang up on them. It might be illegal at some time in the future, but it isn't illegal now. So, too bad for them.

      • Re:Partially (Score:4, Informative)

        by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @01:19PM (#61510640)

        It might be illegal at some time in the future, but it isn't illegal now. So, too bad for them.

        After having evolved to feed specifically on the small fish, shark wails at the immorality of it all when it accidentally tears it’s side open and those little fish get a nice buffet.

      • by dasunt ( 249686 )

        That's partially the reason. Some hedge funds do outperform the market. Some don't.

        The average hedge fund underperforms the market, if one assumes a good measurement of the market is the S&P 500.

        With fees, it just makes things worse.

        Now there could be other reasons why hedge funds are desirable - they could, for example, have increased returns relative to risk (not saying they do, I never checked). In this example, the lowered returns would be offset by the decreased volatility. (Again, not sayi

      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        On average they don't. And if one is outperforming the market at the moment, wait a while, because on average they won't.

        And at the moment, on average, they're very much underperforming.

      • Re:Partially (Score:4, Insightful)

        by sjames ( 1099 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @04:51PM (#61511228) Homepage Journal

        The problem is, even a cow pooping on a grid square will occasionally outperform the market. It just doesn't last.

        I'm sure the hedge funds would love to ban small investors from buying up stock in advance of them buying up stock. Most capitalists are all-in for a Soviet style command economy as long as they are the ones in command.

    • I'm sure it has nothing to do with the hedge model charging exorbitant active management fees for not outperforming the market.

      Practically every hedge fund does that: https://www.investopedia.com/a... [investopedia.com] Hedge fund is basically a fancy synonym for fleecing gullible clients through exorbitant fees.

    • by tomhath ( 637240 )
      That is the reason. From an article in Financial Times [ft.com]

      In the investor letter announcing the fund’s closure, White Square said that last year, despite that year’s strong performance, two large investors had opted to withdraw their cash and put it in cheap passive funds or private equity. “We experienced first-hand the shift in trend away from hedge fund investing to cheaper alternatives,” it added.

    • by NFN_NLN ( 633283 )

      I don't think a hedgefund has collapsed from screwing customers to hard. This was just the sacrificial hedgefund not protected by the cartel.
      There are others that are more leveraged in shorts and a mexican stand-off between retail investors to see who will break first.

    • Hedge funds by their nature take large risks by hedging against something. If they bet wrong, they could lose a lot of money; if they bet correctly they get a lot of money. A hedge fund that bet wrong is not surprising to anyone; although hedge funds should not put so much of their capital into one or two bets.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Hedge funds by their nature take large risks by hedging against something. If they bet wrong, they could lose a lot of money; if they bet correctly they get a lot of money. A hedge fund that bet wrong is not surprising to anyone; although hedge funds should not put so much of their capital into one or two bets.

        Secret to getting rich - make huge bets with someone else's money. Sooner or later your ship comes in.

        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

          Secret to getting rich: make huge bets with someone else's money, charge them a percentage of the upside, and don't give anything back on the downside.

    • "Outperforming the market" boils down to nothing more than specific actions like not losing money on Gamestop.
    • I am a boggle head so I am not really going to defend hedge funds but one thing to remember, not all hedge funds try to beat the market. Some will try to give more constant returns in both up or down markets; or have less volatility; basically better risk adjusted returns vs total returns index funds over long periods of time can grow at 7-8% per year what is great, however its not like they go up at a constant rate of 7%. They will go up 30% in one year, then another 25%, then it will drop 55%, then drop
      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        If you found a way to constantly make 5%; you would be the worlds richest person by far

        Easy enough. Get together enough capital, invest it in something that tracks the NASDAQ, pay out 5% / year, drawing from the principle if necessary.

        Where do I collect my $100 billion?

  • In general Stock go up more than they fall. If you bet against a stock, it is probably only best for a Short term trade, where you feel there may a short term hit to the price. But betting on the company going bankrupt and getting it all, isn't the best plan, because often a company will change direction.

    • In general Stock go up more than they fall. If you bet against a stock, it is probably only best for a Short term trade, where you feel there may a short term hit to the price. But betting on the company going bankrupt and getting it all, isn't the best plan, because often a company will change direction.

      It's not betting on bankruptcy, just a sufficient drop in stock price.

      And yes, on average stocks go up, but that's kinda irrelevant. There will still be overpriced stocks that are likely to decrease in value, and if too many people believe stocks only go up then there's going to be a lot of those overpriced stocks that are very good bets to go down.

      • Clearly it's been a while since the last huge market collapse after which we both venerated and reviled the guys who bet and won hugely on economy imploding. 7 years ago this crowd was depicted in a feature film The Big Short [investopedia.com] starring no less than Christian Bale, Steve Carell, and Ryan Gosling, which is quite a killer cast for a saga of finance.
    • That is why shorting contracts have due dates. Shorts are not indefinite bets. Each short specifies a time where the stock that was borrowed must be paid back. Longer short periods require more money in fees; ie betting that Google will fall next year requires borrowing Google stock for a year and paying any fees for that time period. Betting Google will fall within 30 days will require smaller fees. What got the GameStop shorts in trouble is that it is easy to find out when these shorts are due; hence the
      • by sjames ( 1099 )

        It's worse, by shorting more Gamestop stock than existed, they squeezed themselves. To get out of the short position, they needed to buy the stock to return it, buy it back from the people they returned it to, then return it again.

        It was constructively a naked short.

        • "...they squeezed themselves."

          == Their own greed made them stupid, and they were forced to eat it. Just IMHO.

      • by swright ( 202401 )

        That is why shorting contracts have due dates. Shorts are not indefinite bets. Each short specifies a time where the stock that was borrowed must be paid back.

        That's not quite correct.

        Shorting does mean borrowing stock, and that borrowing has an interest rate so there are fees to pay.

        But there is no due date. Just an interest rate on the borrowing; i.e. borrowing for more time = more fees.

        You may be confusing this with covering the short (i.e. buying to close the short position), and the T+2 settlement time on share transactions. I.e. after closing the position you have 2 days to actually provide the shares. That's the only place where there's a specific time

      • You have no clue what you are talking about. You can hold a short for an indefinite period of time. But of course you might have to pay interest while holding the short.

        Perhaps you are thinking about buying put options, which are contracts that let you bet the price will go down, but that is different from shorting shares of stock.

    • I’m sorry, but you’re failing to not apply logic here. You massively short a company which drives the price down. The losses lower the ability to raise capital and causes liquidity issues for the company. Then the entire company folds under the pressure, giving the shorts massive returns and when the company folds there isn’t a lot of actual care into verifying that no shady synthetic share shenanigans went on and all shares are accounted for.
      • Having owned a stock about 12 years ago that was the target of "naked" shorting... this entire thing has been very sweet for me to watch.

    • by gmack ( 197796 )

      On the other hand, Gamestop is stuck with an outdated business model and no real ability to turn that around. They tried turning that around with some purchases (ex Think Geek) but really didn't understand the business model enough to succeed. Eventually, as things go digital, their game resale business will just die off completely leaving them with no option other than bankruptcy. They are simply doomed.

      The temporary rally caused by Reddit activists will eventually die off and the stock price will conti

      • A lot of those Reddit activists are going to lose money on this, hopefully not more than they can afford.
        I would have liked to have shorted SCO a few years back, but without knowing exactly when the thing was going to tank it would have been a really stupid move. The end came (if I remember correctly) when some court ruled that SCO only had the rights to use Unix but not actual ownership, something I absolutely did not see coming.

        Recently I bought some shares in a company which was being shorted. There we

  • by Last_Available_Usern ( 756093 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:18AM (#61510062)
    The use of "double-digit per cent losses" bugs me. That could be anywhere from 10-99%.
  • by SlideWRX ( 660190 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:20AM (#61510066)

    They didn't target normal short sellers; they targets a stock shorted 140% - some ILLEGAL shenanigans were afoot and reddit caught them, and managed to profit from it. I think if the SEC had actually caught & prosecuted the illegal short sales, it would have been a slap on the wrist and maybe 1-10 million dollar fine. Reddit managed to hurt the shady hedge funds a LOT more than the SEC ever would have...

    • by doug141 ( 863552 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:31AM (#61510100)

      https://www.fool.com/investing... [fool.com]

      As an example, take a situation involving four investors. Annie owns shares of GameStop, and Annie and her broker have an agreement that allows the broker to lend Annie's shares to short-sellers. It lends them to Bob, who subsequently sells those borrowed shares short in hopes that GameStop's share price will fall.

      An investor named Chris ends up buying those borrowed shares from Bob. However, Chris has no way of knowing that those shares have been borrowed from Annie. To Chris, they're just like any other shares.

      More importantly, if Chris has the same kind of agreement, then Chris's broker can lend out those shares to yet another investor. Diane, another GameStop bear, can borrow those shares and sell them short.

      In this example, the same shares end up getting borrowed and sold twice. The short interest volume these transactions add to the total is twice the number of shares actually involved.

      • I like the airplane ticket analogy, they sell more tickets than seats to try to fully pack every plane, but this means they multiple sell the same seat when more than 100% of people show up. Shorting without owning is a similar thing, it just worse because in this case the airline would have to buy back those tickets and the passengers can name the price.
        • Except that is not how stocks are over shorted. A better analogy with airline tickets would be the airline is selling a fixed amount of tickets for $300 a piece to the public and travel agencies. Travel Agency A seeing that they can make profit on a desired flight sells tickets for $500 that they do not have by "borrowing" them from another agency, B for $400. However Travel Agency B is doing the same thing by borrowing their tickets from Agency C for $350 and so on. It is important to remember that these a

          • https://www.investopedia.com/t... [investopedia.com]

            "What Is Naked Shorting
            Naked shorting is the illegal practice of short selling shares that have not been affirmatively determined to exist. Ordinarily, traders must borrow a stock or determine that it can be borrowed before they sell it short. So naked shorting refers to short pressure on a stock that may be larger than the tradable shares in the market.

            Despite being made illegal after the 2008â"09 financial crisis, naked shorting continues to happen because of loophole

            • Can you show that the hedge funds were in fact naked shorting? Even your link says that it is illegal.
              • by sjames ( 1099 )

                As legally defined, they may not have naked shorted, but the situation was constructively a naked short. They necessarily shorted some of the same shares twice. The law just hasn't caught up with that sort of situation.

              • I don't really have to prove it. I merely have to raise it as an issue in hopes further legal constraints, audits, and reporting requirements will be put on the practice and to see that additional regulations ensure that any stock that has been shorted should be marked as unlendable.

                That said, 140% is incredibly high and you'll find many articles expressing the concern that 140% indicates naked shorting was taking place. Even a stock with only an interset over 40%, such as Workhorse Group Inc. is ranked a

      • Well that's terrifying. There is so much wrong with everything you wrote I don't even know where to begin. If anyone needs me I'll be pounding my head into a wall.
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:28AM (#61510088)
    these companies have massive amounts of power due to the amount of cash they control. If you think they're not using that power to hurt companies they bet against then you need to think again. I seem to recall a company trying to kill Olive Garden, where one of their big shareholders was playing these games while actively undermining the company.
  • by Chris Mattern ( 191822 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:28AM (#61510090)

    "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

  • Live by the short (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bobstreo ( 1320787 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:28AM (#61510092)

    Die by the short.

    I'm sure there is literally no one who feels the slightest amount of sadness or pity for White Square Capital.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I momentarily shed a small tear for them -- then I realized I had misread White Square Capital as White Castle and my sad moment dissipated quickly..

  • Good (Score:5, Insightful)

    by theshowmecanuck ( 703852 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:34AM (#61510114) Journal
    I think there is nothing wrong with shorting in itself, as markets go up and down. But aggressively betting against the success of a company is another matter. Vultures that try to kill the living should be put down. Those are the ones that will spread FUD against a company in order to capitalize on that company tanking, and using the FUD to help it tank. I'm not a huge fan of Musk (even though I mostly like what he is doing with SpaceX), but spreading lies about Tesla (a company I am not a fan of) by other of these short selling cunts is an example of the vulture trying to kill the living of which I speak. Companies that deserve a chance to gain success can be wrecked by these assholes. The market is already tough enough to weed out that weak ones. Vulture short sellers are not really good for anyone except themselves. Slag away at this if you want.
    • I think there is nothing wrong with shorting in itself, as markets go up and down.

      No, there's a huge problem with shorting. (For those who don't know how it works, you borrow stock shares from someone with the promise to return them at a future date. You then sell the stock betting its value will go down. Then shortly before the return date you buy them back at the lower price. Pocketing the amount that the stock value dropped.)

      • When you buy a stock, the maximum amount of money you can gain is effectively
      • by swright ( 202401 )

        • When you short a stock, these get reversed. The maximum amount of money you can gain is the value of the stock when you sold it (stock goes to zero by the time you have to buy it back). But the maximum amount of money you can lose is effectively infinite (the stock's value can increase multi-fold by the time you have to buy it back).

        That's not actually true - for a hard and a soft reason... ...max loss can be capped on a short using options; i.e. if you short at $100, then buy a call option at, say, $120. the call option you own gives you the option (but not the obligation) to buy stock at $120 anytime up to the expiry date of the option. Options, in this context, are typically used to hedge a bet; i.e. hedging the short in this case.

        The softer option is that (memes aside), stocks don't tend to crash upwards as viciously as they cr

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:35AM (#61510116) Journal
    All the big boys used to talk to the retail investors in a condescending tone, Ye, small investor, don't invest with emotions. No matter how good you are, or how correct you are, the market can remain irrational for far longer than you can remain solvent. OK boy? now run along, invest in index funds and let the efficient allocation of capital to us big boys., all the while laughing betting other people's money in increasingly insane wagers and schemes, creating bubbles, crashing the economies, shuffle aluminum billets from warehouse to warehouse somehow making profits without ever making a single thing out of that billet ...

    Now the jokes on them. I laugh at them, but I realize, almost all my net worth is invested in the market, at the mercy of the same jokers and their counterparts in other gambling, oops, trading, houses. Anyway, I am going to be bilked for sure. At least a few of them got taken to cleaners. Small consolation prize at best...

  • by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @10:36AM (#61510122)
    GME is a symptom, not the cause, and retail never had more ownership than about 20% of meme stocks, so they never were “the problem”. Anyone can see this like when Vladdy lies in front of congress saying GME was restricted due to liquidity issues and then the head of the SEC testifies in the subsequent hearing that Robinhoods liquidity was resolved immediately. He was lying to cover for Citidel who buys the order flow and is the real cash cow for his business model.

    It’s far bigger than just greedy over shorting companies that are perceived to be swirling the drain such that just buying and holding stocks can create a squeeze to meme level prices. GameStop went from that flushed floater surviving yet again to raising over a billion dollars simply because the stock market and markets in general are unhinged from any real performance or footing in reality. Price discovery has become price mining and engineering.

    The SEC just had to update its rules [reddit.com] such that now accounts are checked by computer and if deficient, must settle within an hour whereas before it was days. This is due to so many fail to delivers and the fact the corruption in the system is reaching a boiling point in its fight against reality. Derivatives are leveraged over 20-1 like in the last financial crash, and this time around the commercial real estate derivatives are looking rather flammable. Hell, markets resemble inverted pyramid jenga towers, transactions laying them taller every day, with market movers eagerly trying to remove the last bars of sanity at the bottom for just a little more cash at the risk of catastrophic collapse. I keep asking myself when then will be now.
  • Call me a cynic but I'm guessing that when a hedge fund loses big money, none of the traders personally suffer.
    • The traders for the company or the traders for the stock exchanges? Traders for the company and their managers could lose their jobs because they lost lots of money. This could follow them in their careers.
  • thought of a hedge fund called Over the Hedge?
  • You misspelled "stonks".

  • Just my 2cents, but GameStop is far from over. Tomorrow may very well be the last chance to buy a “ticket to the moon”. This is NOT financial advice and I am a very smooth brained, crayon eating, diamond handed ape.
  • Anything that pushes stock prices away from fair value is a bad thing for everyone in a capitalist society. A bunch of people collectively trading on gut feelings without due research and engagement with management is a way to push prices away from fair value. Worse, people being manipulated by cynical peddlers of propaganda with undisclosed vested interests sounds like the US and UK political systems. Hedge funds live by the sword etc. but if you think the meme stock phenomenon is a good thing for impro

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