Understanding Art for Geeks 213
HeadMounted found a great little flickr collection of art for geeks where helpful designers have provided you with useful hints to help you better comprehend the confusing art world. Or not. Some of them are very clever.
Who let this crap in? (Score:3, Insightful)
This is lame. It's neither insightful nor funny.
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We're doomed.
=Smidge=
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulthewineguy/2163335738/in/set-72157603619920398/ [flickr.com]
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulthewineguy/2162533383/in/set-72157603619920398/
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Or maybe you don't get the joke. (Score:2)
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peanut butter jelly time (Score:4, Interesting)
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NSFW. (Score:5, Informative)
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But they are *artistic* breasts.
Plus a vagina being covered up by a Power button. I wonder what *that* is trying to imply.
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Thanks for clarifying that for everybody reading this who didn't understand the initial but of sarcasm for the Power Button Art. :)
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Gots to use the physical logisticals (Score:3, Funny)
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Unless looking at breasts is ok where you work, that is.
Because a decapitated guy is perectly OK, of course. I'd really like to have an explanation about that : half of the humanity have a vagina an breasts, which is perfectly natural, why is it less acceptable to display than a mutilated body (which is not obviously un-ntural) ? I really can't get it.
At least, if you had rated this NSFW because self-entertainement isn't of the essence of working, I might have agreed, but all this BS about the human body is really the product of sick minds.
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Art is subjective (Score:3, Interesting)
To someone in the art world, Giger [giger.com] may be seen as a genius but to someone like your average slashdot reader a mother board or the latest Linix kernel may be more of a piece of art than something Giger could ever produce.
Then again, IANAA and M.C. Escher is my favorite M.C...
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The instantly recongnizable image of "The Thinker", with an annoying, screw-you, bugs-in-my-code hourglass icon in the upper-left corner is quite well done.
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Yet I love Lewis Carrol. The Alice stories are wonderful examples of art for geeks. Perhaps what I like is that everything can be take
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I happen to hate fiction. It just seems to be an utter waste of time, and I'm especially confused by those who spend time arguing about the meaning of a work of literature. It's all made up anyway! If the author really wanted to communicate a point he'd write an essay.
I'm curious as to your thoughts on South Park, Schindler's list, anything John Lennon and just about every other form of "made up" stuff that was a vehicle for political and social commentary.
To quote John Lennon, time you enjoy wasting is not wasted.
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As far as I can tell with most great literature, the whole point is to argue about what the point in fact is, which is nothing more than pointless intellectua
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If the author hides their point behind multiple levels of symbolism such that it's impossible to tell what the author really meant, and people can spend entire careers arguing over what the work really means, then that's not ok.
Why not? I suppose you think the ending to Pan's Labyrinth wasn't "ok" because the director intentionally left the choice of whether the whole thing was a fantasy or reality open and up for interpretation by the audience. Arts are, first and foremost, supposed to be entertaining. And literary analysis, even if there wasn't a point and/or the point is hidden, is very entertaining to some.
As far as I can tell with most great literature, the whole point is to argue about what the point in fact is, which is nothing more than pointless intellectual masturbation.
GASP! You mean to tell me that they, somehow, serve some purpose of pleasure with no utilitarian benefit?! ZOMG the
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Literature as fluff entertainment is fine, I said as much already. But we don't watch Seinfeld in High School. Some people see it as a scholarly pursuit and want to force it down the throat of every
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Au contraire. Look closely at the background. Doesn't it look kind of other-worldly and SciFiesque? Makes me wonder what Leonardo was thinking...or smoking.
Re:Art is subjective (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, actually it is. That is exactly why so many people that are into "Art" sound like such pompous asses. It is also why people have such a hard time defining what is "Art". They are obsessed with trying to make it more than it is. They want the stuff THEY like to look at to be art, and the stuff that they don't like to look at to not be art.
They only thing I would add to your definition is that it is something that someone intentionally made.
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I find it hard to believe that people like Britney Spears are truly artists in anything but the loosest use of the word and not just media pawns or Marla Olmstead [cbsnews.com] is an actual "artist" as we like to think of them and not just a child who like to paint whose parents are trying to score some coin from said snobs and media buzz.
It's not the product that is art, it's the process and the producer
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What has happened
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But, this goes back to the title of the thread. It's all subjective. If you feel that it is art when someone craps in a can and sells it to snobs, then by all means, that is art. I feel there is more merit in the piece made by the girl winging paints at a canvas out of anger over being dumped than a four
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If he/she created it to sell regardless of whether he/she admires it, then it's utilitarian.
Re:Art is subjective (Score:5, Insightful)
No, actually it isn't. And never has been.
No, so many people that are into "Art" sound like pompous asses because of the increasingly divide between Art and the general public. There are a variety of reasons for this, but the biggest is a the loss of widely shared culture and iconography over the last century-and-some.
No, they are having such a hard time - because they were raised without a solid definition and understanding, see "loss of widely shared culture and iconography".
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If you're doing it for the hell of it because it makes you happy, it's art.
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My wife is a painter and loved it. Be sure to read the alt tags...
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-art./ [instructables.com]
Excerpt:
A breif history: Western art has a rich history, arguably dating back to ancient Greece. Of course, since visual artists historically have toiled with their hands, Greeks viewed painters and sculptors as we would today view cabinet makers; skilled laborers. In an attempt to get laid more, eat better and party with the Popes, artists in the renaissance reinterpreted the role of visual artists in antiquity to elevate their position in society. From here, western visual art was kind of like a snowball rolling down a hill of loosely packed snow. In short, it started an avalanch of rationalism that eventually landed upon abstract expressionism (think of a canvas painted white with a slash in it). Three hours later, when we finally dug Jackson Pollock out from under ten feet of packed snow, he was somehow still alive, but very pale and slightly braindead. We now called him Andy Warhol. He, along with a number of other avalanch survivors, created postmodern art. This lead Marshal McLuhan to proclaim: "Art is anything that you can get away with." This will be our working definition of art.
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art: n. something made by an artist.
artist: n. someone who makes art.
I'm only half joking.
You're definitely on the right track when you say that art is neither "out there" (a
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His works always make me think of Alien though
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Disappointed (Score:5, Interesting)
But I was hoping for more of something like "This work is important because it was the first use of x" where x is a technique that is then explained in mathematical detail. Or "this looks good because of the use of negative space which happens to be expressable as the function y".
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Well... I wouldn't call it lame bigotry. LOLart, maybe. That would make the "I can has cheezburger" art [flickr.com] a meta-LOL. A LOL(LOLcat), if you will. Of course, it would have helped if they spelled cheezburger without an h.
--Rob
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Those images are strictly tongue-in-cheek. They were made by a geek for geeks and by no means do they intend to convey that all geeks are completely incompetent when it comes to understanding art. It's the same kind of joke that we make when we revoke someone's geek licence because he said he has a girlfriend.
Those images are just varyingly clever approaches at looking at art from a new angle. If you
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Some say 'lame', but as a former Studio Art major- (Score:4, Interesting)
Kudos to the author of the series!
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Art for geeks? I can think of one... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Art for geeks? I can think of one... (Score:5, Funny)
Fan: So do you like draw this or something?
Banky: I ink it and I'm also the colorist. The guy next to me draws it, but we both came up with the characters. Next...
Fan: (snidely) What does that mean, you ink it?
Banky: Well, it means that Holden draws the pictures in pencil, and he gives it to me to go over in ink. Next...
Fan: So basically you just trace.
Banky: It's eh...it's not tracing, alright? I add depth and shading to give the image more definition. Only then does the drawing truely take shape.
Fan: No-no-no-no, you go over what he draws with a pen. That's tracing.
Banky: Not really. Next...
Fan: (To next guy in the line) Hey man, let me ask you something. If somebody draws something, and you draw the exact same thing like, right on top of it, without going outside the original designated art, what do you call it?
Other Fan: I dunno man, tracing?
Fan: (Laughing, to Banky) See?!
Banky: (Losing patience, to Other Fan) You want your book signed or what?
Fan: Hey-hey-hey-hey-hey, don't get all testy with him just because you got a problem with your station in life!
Banky: Oh, I'm secure with what I do.
Fan: Then just say it...you're a tracer!
Banky: (To Other Fan) How should I sign this?
Other Fan: I don't want you to sign it man, I want the guy who draws Bluntman & Chronic to sign it. You're just a tracer.
Fan: Tell him, little shaver.Collector: You're mucking with a G, you fuckin' tracer.
Banky: I'll trace a chalk line around your dead fucking body, you fuck!
Holden: [to Security Guards] Will you get him out of here!
Collector: [as he's being dragged away by Security Guard] Hey wait a second! He jumped me, you fucking tracer!
Banky: YOUR MOTHER'S A TRACER!
Re:Art for geeks? I can think of one... (Score:4, Funny)
Banky: YOUR MOTHER'S A TRACER!
Collector: DON'T TRACE ME, BRO!
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appreciation of art is similar to literature .. (Score:5, Interesting)
Another strand of the study revolves about the construction of a social canon (the 'great' works of genius and orginality) and how it reflects the social shifts in power. One way of understanding this is the common complaint amongst film afficiandos that the academy awards are a popularity contest and that, over and above the wonderful movies, Speilberg has been a brand and is a socio-economic construction.
In short, the appreciation of art is much more than aesthetics and more than meets the eye. In fact, it engages the intellect and a deep appreciation involves a broad understanding of the social historical context.
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I'd be very suspicious of someone who claims to teach art history - but doesn'
Better than the originals... (Score:5, Funny)
The wikipedia one is masterful. It's occurred to me for a few years that Gallileo is the perfect example of why wikipedia is flawed. (among many other potential examples of free individual thought)
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It's occurred to me for a few years that Gallileo is the perfect example of why wikipedia is flawed.
I disagree. In Galileo's time, there was no scientific consensus in favour of his theories. Therefore, if Wikipedia had existed by then, he could have gotten a few paragraphs or even a few articles regarding his work while acknowledging it as controversial work. With this respect I don't see how Wikipedia is flawed, unless we assume that Galileo would solely have tried to publish his work by vandalising Wik
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Mod+1 insightful (Score:2)
Meh (Score:2)
Art is easy to spot (Score:2)
Puzzled ... (Score:3, Funny)
It's not the browser, because I tried it on a number of different browsers from different sources, including Firefox, Opera, Safari, iCab and SeaMonkey. They all show the same thing, so presumably that's what's supposed to be on my screen.
But it doesn't seem at all clever; it's just baffling. And there's nothing resembling an explanation or other clue that I can find. What am I so non-geeky as to be missing here?
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Notice that the painting is damaged in those areas. Then note how incredibly dense you were not to notice this before commenting and then laugh uproariously like we all did at your post.
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Looking around at the rest of the series, I conclude that "rather lame" describes most of them. The best I could manage was a weak grin at the Mondrian
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Quick guide (Score:3, Interesting)
Understanding Art (Score:2, Insightful)
You either like it or you don't.
You shouldn't -try- to like it if you don't and you shouldn't -try- to understand it if you think you don't. Art has to be appreciated by the instinct, knowledge, aesthetics, etc one has at the moment, otherwise any further analysis will detract from the appreciation and real meaning and push you further away. One can't understand why a flower is beautiful by chopping it to pieces and measuring its parts.
When you don't li
Mod Up Please - Re:Understanding Art (Score:2)
Art's importance to a person is instinctive and perhaps more importantly, transient.
Bah (Score:2)
Underneath Geeks are Romantics (Score:2)
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Some of my favorite artists (Score:5, Interesting)
1. Brian Dettmer [wikipedia.org]: Dettmer reshapes and reforms older media like old textbooks, technical manuals, cassette tapes, and dictionaries, to make really fascinating derivative works. My favorites are his carved books, many of which are viewable here [centripetalnotion.com].
2. Jason Salavon [wikipedia.org]: Salavon uses software to make art out of preexisting information, with some diverse and surprising work. His work is all displayed on his website [salavon.com].
3. Ai Kijima [wikipedia.org]: Kijima recycles original bed sheets, table cloths, kimonos, and other fabrics to make colorful quilted collages, many of which use pop culture icons. Her work is viewable on her website [aikijima.com].
Enjoy.
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Re:Am I missing a plugin or something? (Score:5, Funny)
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The former. This is art for geeks.
Dan East
Re:Am I missing a plugin or something? (Score:5, Informative)
You're missing something, personally, I'm afraid. The picture was a painting on wood that had been damaged by the passage of time, with large patches of paint having completely flaked off. The joke was that the flaked-off patches had all been enclosed in "broken image" frames.
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I'm not kidding...
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That's the best part! The image is showing that there are portions of the painting that have deteriorated and can't be seen.
To represent this issue he has placed broken image links over the areas that an observer can't see.
I thought it was kind of funny on it's own, but it gets better and better as I see more people confused by the image.
In the case of the original, the missing portions of the painting add something to its qualification as art. For me, the number of people
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Still, I like the idea of people hitting the "reload" button when they see the painting.
It reminds me of:
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/07/24/cursor-kite.html [boingboing.net]
think geek (Score:2)
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No, you need say less.
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