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Comment Re:I hate Apple, but no (Score 1) 518

Did you even read the reuters article?

With quotes from the Apple CEO and president in the 1980s?

Apple did it first, Google made it popular around 2008-2010.

Which is about as long as Congress (who gets big $ from Google lobbying) has been talking about a low/no tax repatriation.

And the NYT made it famous outside technical/legal circles.

Maybe you should try limiting your google searches to before the NYT article.

Comment Re:I hate Apple, but no (Score 1) 518

Actually, Ireland shut it down, with delayed windows for current users, in 2014. So, maybe it was being abused more when it was first investigated, but not now.

Still not sure why the EU hasn't forced all countries to conform to their tax laws. And punish the countries, not the companies, who set up these loopholes over the past 35 years.

Also, you can't call a plan 'unlimited' unless its, you know, actually unlimited. Using a lot of data in an unlimited plan does not make someone an asshole. It shows the company as stupid.

Comment Re:I hate Apple, but no (Score 1) 518

Seriously? You can't use google? Or wikipedia?

here's a pdf from the first footnote on the wikipedia article. It's an article written in 2007.
http://www.gtlaw.com/portalres...

Apple came up with this method in the 1980s. It's been well known for a lot longer than any silly NYT article.
http://www.reuters.com/article...

Comment Re:I hate Apple, but no (Score 1) 518

Double Irish has been around since the 1980s *and is still legally in use today*. But even back then it, legally, produced very low tax rates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

In 2014, the Irish government announced that companies would no longer be able to incorporate in Ireland without also being tax resident there, a measure intended to counter arrangements similar to the double Irish.[4] Irish Finance Minister Michael Noonan addressed the "Double Irish" during the presentation of his 2015 budget. Under the new rules, companies not already operating in the country may not pursue the “Double Irish” scheme as of January 2015; those already engaging in the tax avoidance scheme have a five-year window until 2020 to find another arrangement.

Most bizarre part of all of this:
Ireland says Apple doesn't owe any extra taxes to Ireland.
EU says Apple DOES owe extra taxes to Ireland.

What if Ireland refuses to take the payments from Apple, believing they are illegal per Irish tax laws?

Comment Re:I hate Apple, but no (Score 1) 518

Again, though.

Why are they pursuing a legal loophole in Ireland, though maybe not EU, after it's been used openly & publicly for 35 years?

Why is Ireland not punished for not just allowing, but encouraging local tax provisions that are supposedly in direct violation of EU laws?
And they continue to do this, by altering this method slightly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Under Finance Act 2015, a new system has been introduced whereby innovative companies who choose to incorporate in Ireland can now benefit from the introduction of the Knowledge Development Box (the “KDB”) in Ireland, the scheme is seen a replacement for the “double-Irish” tax system which was recently closed. An effective tax rate of 6.25% can be obtained on qualifying profits generated in periods commencing on or after 1 January 2016.

Comment Re:I hate Apple, but no (Score 1) 518

Fair point.

So it sounds like Ireland's tax laws have been out of compliance for half a century. Free movement of capital, but not taxation.

So why now, and why Apple? And since the EU is only now going after a ~35 yr old accounting practice, Apple can fairly have assumed that the practice was perfectly legal until recently.

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