

Microsoft Launches Comical Effort to Fight Piracy 332
theodp writes "A week before the release of Vista, Microsoft is expanding its fight against software piracy with a new educational effort that includes comics. Making its U.S. debut Monday, the Genuine Fact Files campaign aims to make Microsoft's message more accessible to a broader audience. BTW, Vista's Software Protection Platform (SPP) can put unvalidated copies of the software into a reduced-functionality mode. From the article: 'Microsoft plans to draw attention to it through banner ads on its Web sites and promotional material that it will hand out through partners. By using comics, the company aims to make the message more accessible to a broader audience. They are black and white, in a style similar to newspaper comics.'"
So uncool (Score:4, Insightful)
Isn't it peculiar that when someone (an individual, gov't or corporation) tries to pander to the hip or "kewl" crowd, it actually comes off as even more contrived and lame. This Microsoft comic reminds me of junior-high school health classes about drugs or sex.
Besides that, Microsoft has to walk a fine line with software piracy. If they could eliminate it entirely, that would be when you would see a more mainstream adoption of FOSS.
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Add to that 400+ for an office suite, 100+ for anti-(virus/spyware), 100ish for Quicken, and you've doubled the cost of the machine. Software is simply overpriced. If Microsoft, and the rest, reduced their prices by an order of magnitude, they'd find a lot less people getting their software from illegitimate sources.
Re:So uncool (Score:5, Insightful)
I might be the most anti-DRM/anti-Intellectual Property person around here, but this argument that a company should lower its prices to discourage stealing is ridiculous. You're saying that because Rolex charges $5k for a watch, then it's OK to steal one.
Microsoft can charge what they want for a product and you can decide whether or not to buy it. Or, you can decide to pirate a copy, but please don't justify stealing by presenting yourself as a crusader against high-prices. [by the way, I'm not saying necessarily that I believe using a hacked version of Windows is stealing]
I'm also not one of the "free-market" types, but the best way to get Microsoft to lower prices would be to have some competition in the marketplace that competes on price-point (which leaves Apple out).
Linux does that to a certain extent, but it's not enough.
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Sound familiar? - Tim
Re:So uncool (Score:4, Insightful)
Unfortunately the argument is not as simple as that. The 'protection' put in place hurts the legitimate customer. Imagine if said Rolex decided to stop working because for reasons unknown to you it no longer saw you as its rightful owner. You paid $5k for this new Rolex and the older models never had this functionality before. Then, the line they feed you is "It's to keep prices down!" What are you going to say besides "Really? The price is the same as it has always been!" ?? The result is that stolen Rolexes with that feature removed are going to go up in demand.
Microsoft wants to combat piracy, right? How's that supposed to work if Windows becomes a bigger annoyance to those that paid for it? There's no justification of 'stealing' here, it's about Microsoft handling this in an unproductive way.
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You're saying that because Rolex charges $5k for a watch, then it's OK to steal one.
Or, you can decide to pirate a copy, but please don't justify stealing by presenting yourself as a crusader against high-prices.
Wow, you're an idiot.
He's not saying pirating is OK because the price is expensive, he's *MAKING A PREDICTION* that if Microsoft were to lower their prices, less people would pirate their products. That's almost certainly true, morals (which *you* brought up) aside.
Re:So uncool (Score:4, Insightful)
As with any item of commerce, don't buy it if you cannot or will not afford it. Until someone invents an atomic duplicator, it will always cost considerably more to make a copy of some tangible hardware. Software is a product of mind. All such pure mind products, especially digital ones, are intrinsically easily and inexpensively copied, without any great additional expenditure of money or effort. Acquiring the fruit of someone else's effort, whether that effort is physical or mental, without paying the one putting forth such effort is called stealing. If someone has a kid mow their lawn for an agreed price, and then doesn't pay, that person has stolen from that kid. If a particular kid wants more than you are willing to pay, you can find another one who will do it for a lower price or mow the lawn yourself.
Writing software requires effort and expense. The people who wrote that software deserve to be paid for that effort. Copying software without paying for the mental effort it took to write, IS *STEALING*, morally speaking, and also illegal as in copyright law violation.
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> in adding an OS would have simply opted to have no computer at all.
Well, depending on the specs you're shooting for, you can still build something somewhat cheaper today, but alas WITHOUT Windows. Once you add (even an OEM copy of) Windows into the mix, the whole equation collapses. I must say though that MS have succeeded pretty handily in souring the Windows "pirating" experience with the w
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The difference: shareware means registrators are "good guys".
Piracy means unautorised users should feel as "bad guys"
The piracy the Companies go after is not the average joe unauthorised use, but commercial
counterfeiting of their software products.
Re:So uncool (Score:5, Insightful)
But yet they can pay for the computer?
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If from the beginning people didn't pirate windows, home computer use of windows would have been MUCH less. These people would then have not demanded windows for their work computers.
I remember it the other way around, when 3.1 came out we practically had to force it on our users. The home pirating began when users were required to submit things in Word and Excel format and they needed to access these documents from home. Before that most people that had computers seemed perfectly content with Lotus and Wordperfect and if not they got a Mac.
You got the key point (Score:2)
So far, piracy is easier than learning to use Linux/BSD/whatever. But what if Microsoft succeeds in making it hard?
I think they would gain some new customers among the lazy and wealthy(who would finally pony up the license fees), but at the same time the poor but smart would prefer to put in the effort to move. As a result, revenue would rise at the exp
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Microsoft owns the software.
No, they do not. By virtue of a grant graciously given to them by the people through their representatives they have a monopoly to copy the software for a limited time, but they certainly don't own it.
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Thanks to the Mouse and Sonny Bono, MS might as well own the software.
Re:So uncool (Score:5, Insightful)
There are a significant number of people who used pirate software through collage when they're broke, get used to them then when they're financially better off, start to buy the real thing. You'll start losing those sales if they start off with free software right from thr word go.
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Good point. There are lots of academic copies of Photoshop Pro, MS Office, and such. I am older and didn't get these in school, so I am much more versed in The Gimp and Open Office. This is especialy true when the big anti-pira
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I flat-out pirated those in college. No money, no time to mess around. After graduating, I went legit. Except, I stil
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I have so many customers who are running pirated Windows or Office that it's not even funny. That or they are still running Office 97. If these people had to shell out $250-$400 for Office or $150 for XP Pro, they would switch in to OO and Linux in about the same time it would take to hear that it's free (as in beer).
My wife i
Re:So uncool (Score:5, Interesting)
That's not a matter of not needing Windows, that's a matter of someone not needing a desktop PC at all. Imagine a cell phone cradle that supported a keyboard/mouse/monitor console. She has one console at home, has one at work, and she carries her "desktop" in her purse.
I'm still curious why we are still years away from practical products like this.
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That's not a matter of not needing Windows, that's a matter of someone not needing a desktop PC at all.
That's true of most computer owners. When computers moved away from the scientific/business user and into the mainstream, they became vastly overcomplicated and expensive for the purposes they generally serve. My Blackberry does most of what people do with their computers, but the interface is a little cramped, which is where your idea comes in.
It seems like WebTV was probably a great idea that was simply before its time. Here to fill the niche now is task-specific Linux desktops (Internet client, Business
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Microsoft doesn't make cell phones or have a monopoly on cell phone embedded operating systems, thus it is against their interests to support or encourage this type of device.
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Okay. It will need a video chipset to drive at least a 1024x768 display. At least 256megs of ram. Wifi. USB controller. Local storage of say 4 gigs minumum. A decent OS. Apps.
Now its 4x as big, 4x as expensive, and ugly.
A quick look at dell's site shows me a PC can be had for 500 dollars which comes with a 19inch LCD, 60gig drive, 512megs of ram.
Why would anyone get a super-phone? Hell, I have a treo and love it, but its not f
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firstly even if they were "equal" people would be likely to stick with what they were familiar with unless put under high pressure not to.
secondly even though windows/windows server/office/iis/.net and linux/samba/openoffice/apache/php aren't equal (they each have thier own strenghts and weaknesses) i'm sure there are plenty of people who use pirate MS
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So how is that D.A.R.E. program working out?
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The point is that the classical consumer software works the same as shareware.
Shareware: you are the good guy when you register
Classic Model: You are the bad guy when you got a copy from your friends.
One is driven by fear, the other by reward. But both need distribution by copying. Unautorised use is part of the business model in both cases! De facto the closed source software mark
Comics cool? (Score:2)
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I don't understand! (Score:4, Funny)
Newspaper-style (Score:2)
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Redundant really, since Microsoft's anti-piracy schemes have never stood up...
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Somehow, I doubt these comics will cover some of the more debatable aspects of the issue (for example, downloading clips from a radio broadcast. I don't download the latest Weird Al CD, I buy it. But what about the latest JRock CD that I can't actually buy in America, anyway?).
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A _real_ feature... (Score:5, Funny)
So you can avoid bloat and annoying requesters by not validating a copy?
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No, they reduce functionality by adding "over 300 new innovative desktop productivity solutions that let you do things from browse photos to surf the 'net, with better access to your media through We'reFairlySureItPlaysSomewhere(TM) technology."
Good for them! (Score:5, Funny)
Awesome! I can see it now. Popeye eating some spinach and tying an octopus' legs around three unshaven guys with eye patches. Brilliant!
Oh, wait... did the OP mean copyright infringement? Then why did the OP use a term that means armed taking of actual property?
Re:Good for them! (Score:5, Insightful)
Because downloading a torrent is exactly the same as attacking a ship, killing it's crew and doing random raping and pillaging. Only dirty hippies that hate America can't see that.
</corporate_asshat>
Copyright infringement != piracy
Copyright infringement != theft
Copyright infringement == Copyright infringement
Doesn't make it right, but be accurate when using a damn word.
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Or maybe Leeching.
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(download Linux ISOs of course
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An Anonymous Pirate
Meh (Score:2)
Re:Good for them! (Score:4, Informative)
"Copyright infringement != piracy"
I agree 100% that many of us find it distasteful to use this word, but to claim that it does not have this meaning is, frankly, tilting at windmills.
The word "piracy" is an example of a homonym, or as some call it, a homophone. Type "dict piracy" into your Firefox toolbar (we're all running Firefox, right?) to get the following definition:
"2. the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.: The record industry is beset with piracy."
We're all smart enough not to confuse dogs and trees when we hear the word "bark," so it's disingenuous to suddenly pretend to be homonym-challenged.
Another common bit of misinformation is that this is some sort of new meaning of the word. Not so; it shows up in court rulings from the 19th century, and if you're lucky enough to have an OED around, it'll tell you a lot more about the etymology.
Again: you may find the definition distasteful. But there's no point in claiming that the definition does not exist.
Re:Good for them! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Piracy as an old term for copyright infringemt (Score:4, Interesting)
Gilbert & Sullivan wrote "Pirates of Penzance" in 1879, inspired by the copyright "Pirates" in New York who had come to watch their London performances of their previous show (HMS Pinafore) and then "ripped" the words and music and performed something very similar in New York a short time later.
Without paying royalties of course.
In fact, to avoid "Pirates" itself being pirated, G&S took the trouble to perform it FIRST in New York (they both travelled there personally -- and travelling trans-Atlantic was only by slow boat in those days) and establish ownership and royalty channels, before sailing back home to London to premiere it there.
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There's nothing in the ten commandments about not duplicating work. It does say thou shalt not steal, but stealing refers to depriving someone else of the item you've stolen, which isn't the case when producing a duplicate.
Copyright is an invention of modern law, intended to stifle the competition which would exist in a free market where anyone can produce duplicate copies of a work. It is so some people can make more money in the short term, while reduc
Children Must Be Educated (Score:5, Funny)
I understand slashdot tolerates and even condones piracy, but it is illegal and kids should know they risk the punishment of law enforcement if they get caught.
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Don't Copy that Floppy! (Score:3, Funny)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=483760909
Re:Don't Copy that Floppy! (Score:5, Funny)
Great idea! (Score:2)
The kids will dig it (Score:2, Funny)
Only in B&W? (Score:2)
Typo in Headline (Score:5, Funny)
Easy enough mistake to make.
Canada is one step ahead of them (Score:3, Funny)
I don't see how he changed anything.
Well, they're changing the site around, but [URL=http://www.midtimod.dk/blog/index.php?/archiv es/594-Captain-Copyright.html]this site[/URL] has one of the comics up.
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(btw you're using phpBB forum type tags to submit the links, you have to use actual HTML etc... here on Slashdot)
Captain Copyright [captaincopyright.ca]
Yeah this guy at this link you submitted is using the same name:
Captain Copyright [midtimod.dk]
Is Captain Copyright copyrighted? lmao
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I can see it already: Private Privacy is a WWII war hero who fights for peace and freedom... of information.
The Commando Line is a group of elite soldiers who defeat their foes by piping vital information through grep and sed.
The Backup Referee protects not only fair play but also fair use.
And of course... The Linux Foundation is our alternative to the various Justice Leagues etc. Staffed
Ferrets For Copyright Justice (Score:2)
Reduced functionality (Score:2, Insightful)
It ain't over yet (Score:4, Insightful)
From the article: "The antipiracy fight is a multimillion-dollar effort, Hartje said. Although it has been going on for some time, Microsoft can't say whether the fight is paying off. 'This is a multi-inning game. We're in the first inning and it is too early to tell what the long-term impact will be,' she said."
This is the first inning? C'mon, pirated software was online (BBSs) in the 1980s, if not earlier, and even then I could buy illegally-copied software from semi-shady PC hobby stores. Forget "don't copy that floppy" -- how about "don't copy that data cassette" or "this software download will take 16 hours on your 1200 baud modem, assuming your housemates don't pick up the phone and disrupt the signal".
Nah, it's more like double-death overtime, and Microsoft is losing.
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"if it's overtime, aren't the teams usually tied?"
That's exactly what I mean. MS and the pirates are tied, but in this round of overtime, MS seems to be losing. They'll catch up, then the pirates will pull ahead, and back and forth.
I've heard of this... (Score:5, Insightful)
Give us more than ONE FREAKIN KEY (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course after saying all that, vista upgrades will be so uncommon, buying a new PC will be pretty much the only guaranteed way most people will have Vista at all. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Re:Give us more than ONE FREAKIN KEY (Score:5, Insightful)
A simple site license would be fine. MS office was a couple hundred dollars a copy a few years ago. Novel's Star office was less than a hundred dollars and came with a home site license. Needless to say, I ran Star Office at home for a while until Open Office became better and replaced it.
In keeping the budget balanced and avoiding piracy, many people find alternatives with better terms. We have more than 1 PC. A single PC license is to be avoided if at all possible. This requirement alone has introduced me to Free Open Software as an affordable replacement to the by each PC a copy model.
The latest casualty is Light Factory. They went from a Registeration name model to a single PC locked registration. In the process, it broke the hot spare for a live performance. I upgraded to Freestyler in its place.
Is free software the only ones who get a SOHO network and a cheap site license?
History repeats itself (Score:3, Insightful)
What is interesting to me... (Score:5, Interesting)
Does Microsoft (and along the same lines, the RIAA, MPAA, etc) believe education is really the problem? I think it's just marketing to justify the draconian measures (DRM and the like) that they want to use to control as much of our daily lives as they can get away with. If it were really about piracy they'd just correct their business model.
A Window On Their Soul (Score:3, Interesting)
Are non genuine facts still facts or are they lies ?
It seems Microsofts understanding of the word fact is something which optionally may or not be true which leads me to believe that they are not someone I'm going to be trusting as far as I can throw them.
Is the fact that these is a genuine facts they are presenting us with a genuine fact or its self or is it one of those other not genuine, or partially genuine facts ? Who can tell.
The important question (Score:2, Redundant)
Also, I'd like to know - what style are they in? And are they in color? Im asking because I couldn't tell from the article, and I don't think it said so in the summary.
Modding me "redundant" will just make this funnier to me.
It's COPYRIGHT MAN! (Score:4, Funny)
In this episode, Copyright Man puts the hurts on a little girl with leukemia, her puppy and her elderly Grandmother...
Crippleware activation death (Score:2)
I think they may be learning. With flat out product activation you may be inclined to just go with another OS. I've put Linux on one of my desktop computers for the first time since about 2000 because I don't have a spare copy of Windows and (not that I'd do that sort of thing anyways) using the same copy of Windows XP for 2 PCs is an activation nightmare waiting to happen. If cripple
Anbody have a torrent? (Score:3, Funny)
In other news... (Score:2)
Channelling Jack Chick? (Score:2)
I immediately started imaging Microsoft portraying "pirates" as evil devil-worshipping spawns of Satan, preferably in little pamphlets which could be inserted into iPod boxes (we all know only pirates buy iPods, don't we?) by concerned shop owners...
Erm, yes, I lived through the vilification of D&D during the eighties, why do you ask?
Wow... (Score:2)
Boy Scouts and Computers Merit Badge (Score:2, Interesting)
In Boy Scouts, you have to do all of the numbered requirements. (Some are "Do three of these" and list, for example, A-H sub-requirements).
Requirement 9 (the January 2006 revision) has three mandatory sub-sections.
(paraphrased - I don't have the exact text)
A. If a friend offers you a copy of
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Is it:
"to protect the artist's property" [WRONG]
or is it:
"a temporary monopoly - a bad thing but here a necessary evil - granted to promote arts and sciences".
Just wondering.
Very anti-Blog (Score:3, Interesting)
I mean seriously, who posts pirated stuff on blogs? I thought it was all peer to peer these days?
Only other thing I discovered from the cartoon is that if a chubby guy called Randall sucking on a chocolate bar like it was a wang comes up to your desk odds on your going to be fired.
I don't adovocate stealing intellectual property.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh really? Who provides that assurance? Certainly not Microsoft. I don't recall ever seeing any MS product (or any piece of software, for that matter) that isn't sold without a warranty including the implied warranty of merchantability. In other words the EULA plainly states the software is completely worthless and that by clicking through, you agree with the manufacturer that the software is completely worthless and that you are surrendering your right to sue them if the software destroys your computer, blows up you house and kills your family etc. etc.
Like I said, I don't advocate stealing intellectual property but turning in criminals who copy and distribute what a manufacturer publicly declares is worthless crap is waaaaay down on my list of wrongs to right.
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And either way, MS/Sony/whoever may make a loss but unless you go out and buy games, eliminating their loss, you've made a bigger loss.
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I've seen a few of these pamphlets again r
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Re:Balanced Reporting - bias bias lol (Score:2)
Internet. hmm, that's not quite right, either.
Journalism. !
Humanity. ?