People Swapping PS3s for Wiis? 328
An anonymous reader writes "To add to Sony's problems with the PS3 launch, it now appears that some Playstation 3 owners are trying to trade their PS3s for Wiis. The author writes: 'There's also speculation that people want the Wii because the PS3s best game is Resistance: Fall of Man. This, of course, forget that there are plenty of cool PS3 games on the way, and the PS3 has its own motion sensing technology, which, while not as good as the Wii, is still pretty cool and opens up Sony to emulate some of the Wii's successes.'"
I'd trade in too (Score:5, Funny)
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(Or well, rather, I wouldn't have got the PS3 in the first place.)
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I can barely breath.
That's so funny.
And I want a wii!
First console, I *ever* wanted. I even went out and braved several stores before I gave up and decided I'll get one in January.
Typical scenario.
me: do you have any wii's?
them: No
them2: No, would you like to buy a PS3?
them3: No, we got in 25 this morning and they sold to the people who happened to be in the area when we unpacked them in 15 minutes, would you like to buy a PS3?
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To be fair (Score:3, Interesting)
Not enough people, unfortunately, since I got Zelda for christmas, and I have no Wii to play it on >. I had several chances at a PS3, but not at a Wii, grrrrrrr...
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I think my GFs parents were going to give us a PS3 (Score:5, Funny)
An interesting story for my fellow dotters on a Christmas night...potentially offtopic, but probably not...
So I'm over my girlfriend's parents' house this evening for Christmas dinner. First Christmas for the both of us together, though I've been to the parents' house several times before, a nice yet cozy 3/1.5 built in the 1950s. We were getting ready to sit down for dinner, with the presents to be exchanged after dessert.
So we're in the living room making the normal chit-chat about work and family and presents, yada yada yada. And then it hits me. That "you know what it means when it happens" cramp in your colon. And then a bubble or two. I'm percolating. A cold sweat comes over me. And then your intestines tell your brain in no uncertain terms: things will be exiting soon, at a very rapid pace.
So I excuse myself from the conversation, sweat already forming on my brow, and I make my way to the back bedroom to purge this unrelenting force from my bowels. But oh my God...my GF's father is in the back bathroom. The only other bathroom is a small bath located directly off of the living room itself. Oh no, that would never do. But alas, the percolation continues and my colon is screaming for purging. This will wait no longer.
So I return to the living room, no time for chit chat, though everyone there can sense that something is not quite right by the sweat pouring down my forehead and the singular purpose on my face. I plow my way into the guest bathroom and barely have time to sit on the toilet before the full force of a major colon blow bellows forth from my rectum. The sound virtually echoes in the small half bath and then the purging continues unabated, half diarrhea half flatulence over and over, shit splashing up on my backside. This process continues for a good 5 minutes before the wave is over. And now I sit there, brown liquid dripping off my anus, dripping off the sides and lid of the toilet.
And I ponder how I will exit the bathroom.
Do I pretend nothing happened. Do I play the sympathy angle? Play the "I'm sick sweetheart" angle? I decide to just play it off and pretend nothing happened. Perhaps they hadn't heard anything. Maybe it was all in my mind how noisy and guttural the sounds were.
So I flush, do my best to tidy up the bowl with the tiny little toilet brush they had next to the toilet. Wash, and exit.
And I exit to the horrified wide-eyed look of everyone in the living room. Yes, Virginia, it was really that loud apparently. GF's mom asks me if I'm ok. I play it off like, why yes, I'm fine, why? And then it hits. Like a brown fog descending on the valley, the odor from the bathroom washes over us like a wave from hell. I had turned the entire living room into a dutch oven. Oh my god.
So I did the only thing I could come up with quickly and motioned to the GF that we had to leave. And we made our quick apologies and made our way to the exit, while her mom noticeably gagged on the stench that had blown out of my asshole. And on our way out -- which the GF's mom by the way didn't object to at all (she was likely in a state of shock over what she had witnessed) -- the GF's dad comes out from the back bedroom and the stench hits him like a baseball bat to the face. The expression on his face was priceless, you'd think he had just walked into a room filled with mustard gas.
At that point, we quickly departed leaving behind a half dozen victims of my gastric evacuation. Merry fucking Christmas, LOL.
At first the GF was mad, but after we started laughing about it (and about a few of the "victims" whom we both can't stand) all was forgiven. I can't imagine eating Christmas dinner in that house, with it wreaking of shit and bowel blowback.
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And yes, we will be giving you a PS3. And a Wii and a 360 after tonight. Just LEAVE ALONE MY DAUGHTER.
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Other way around (Score:4, Interesting)
From the actual article (Score:2, Insightful)
In my search of Austin, I only turned up 6 total people who wanted to trade their PS3 for a Wii, so I moved on to New York City, which boasted a pretty substantial 18 desired trades. Here's where it gets crazy: in San Francisco, there are 48 different PS3 for Wii trades going on at this moment. Now, keep in mind, most of these trades are requesting a Wii plus cash difference, but there is the occasional barter that will take a loss just to
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on the other hand 70 or so trades out of (i assume) thousands of PS3 sales wouldnt really make much of a difference.
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on the other hand 70 or so trades out of (i assume) thousands of PS3 sales wouldnt really make much of a difference.
But how many of the "70 or so" traders NEVER wanted a PS3 - buying them only to resell it for a profit?
Now that EBay prices are nearing MSRP, how many of the people just want to get rid of their 'investment'?
I personally know one person who camped out for a launch PS3 only to resell it, then use the profits to get himself a 'free' Wii and big Plasma TV. His big dreams very quickly shrunk to simply wanting to get rid of the PS3 (that he bought but NEVER wanted) without taking a loss, and just buying a Wii with his own money.
The whole assumption that this is happening because all these people are SO disappointed with their PS3s and the Wii is SO superior is a gigantic leap of logic.
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2) sell wii for $250.
3) Final take = 380+250 = 730 ($100 profit- not what you wanted but better than nothing).
4) Buy console you actually want in march at a discount or as part of some kind of package with games.
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2) Sell wii for $500.
3) Final take = 380 + 500 (880 - 630 = 250 profit).
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This is the exact point I'm arguing against.
Many people bought a PS3 without ever actually wanting it (they wanted to sell it on EBay).
The point / assumption that the people who are making the trade "don't want their PS3 anymore" is not a valid one, nobody ever did ANY research to find the traders motivations.
It'd be just a valid to assume that they all the traders were failed-EBayers, then the point would
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Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Informative)
At which point they should have the supply problems nixed, and there should be quite a number of games that you might be looking forward to playing on it.
Kinda reminds me of when the PS2 launched.
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* Old school 2D scrollers (New super mario bros, Yoshis island ds, 2 castlevania titles, megaman zx, princess peach, star-fi,
* Puzzle games (Kirby, yoshi touch&go, maybe even zookeeper and meteos thought I don't like them that much.)
* RPGs (One final fantasy released, two in the works, Children of mana, Zelda)
Also various platform games and so on, I doubt it will disappoint you.
The DS is probably NOT the perfect console for people who want to play
I forgot one genre (Score:2)
(Phoenix Wright: Ace attorny and the follow up, Another Code and the follow up, Hotel Dusk,
Also I guess the "non-game titles" should be mentioned, such as the brain training, cooking game, and such, which I don't care about
Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Insightful)
Not to be too negative about the PS3, but the PS3 is designed to be "Exactly like every other system in history
Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Insightful)
Compare that to the Wii. It's a remote control that points. Everyone can play wii bowling. Everyone can navigate the metagame without wondering if they should use the d-pad or the left or right analog sticks. It's intuitive. You don't have to think as much about it. You can just get on with the business of playing games.
In addition to inexpensive, easy to develop for, unique, and short-time period experiences, the Wii also provides the instant accessibility that is sorely lacking in today's systems. Learning to play Rockstar's Table Tennis on the 360 takes about 1/2 hour. Learning to play Tennis on the Wii takes about 10 seconds. That's a huge difference if you're just trying to relax for a moment between sending the kids off to school and leaving for work yourself.
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I can't agree more. I just came back from Christmas day with the family where after seeing me, my brother and my sister playing Wii, everyone from my 4 year old cousin to my 80 year old g
Modern controllers are freaking hard to learn (Score:2)
This is absolutely true. The prime example is a female friend of mine. Whenever the topic comes to video games, she explains that she doesn't play videogames because they're too complicated. "I'm too stupid," she'll exclaim. She's not stupid at all (she's studying law, and she's really very sharp), and she's also not not playing video games: She does play Donkey Konga and Dance Dance Revolution, and she loves Magnetica on the DS. She'd never even pick up a normal controller, but she does like playing Wii.
I
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Hey, I'm no n00b to gaming, and that damned controller freaks me out too! But it's not simply about the number of buttons. I'll list the issues:
Four triggers
The main problem. You have to either use your middle
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My in-laws were over a while back, with their kid (3 years, 11 1/2 months). He played Wii bowling. It took him two or three tries usually to roll the ball, because he has a hard time timing the release, but he could play the game.
When they came over for Christmas, he asked if he could play bowling again. We set it up. At age 4, and a couple of weeks, he can play the game moderately successfully. So can my mother-in-law, who is in no way a gamer.
Now, can
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Should the earth spontaneously start over with small, rat-like warm-blooded mammals?
Sure the mammals are smaller, more agile, and better able to survive clamatous events, but that's the only thing unique about them. The dinosaurs enormous size and incredible power have evolved over the years to meet the needs of the widest area of terrain types and I think their current form is, while maybe not perfect, a lot
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But I don't think we should be too quick to judge the PS3 as "no better than their competition". The way it's configured, the PS3 has the potential to be better than the competition. I think it's just a matter of time before game developers get used
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Concomitant with that we should also think "longer development cycles and more expensive games." I think these will go hand in hand with developers trying to push the envelope on the Cell.
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Maybe, maybe not.
If sony release (or a dev creates, in their first/second gen titles) a bunch of libraries and/or an optimising compiler to simplify development for it, perhaps it will be "easier" to develop for because there could be less need to optimise the game to "fit" within the hardware's abilities.
The PC plat
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WinCE was optional. It was not even built-in. Very few games used it, mostly simple-looking ones and PC ports (Armada, Sega Swirl, Railroad Tycoon), because it didn't perform as well as using Sega's own stuff. Sega Rally 2 was a bit of a miracle, and even then it had some framerate issues. But even without that, the Dreamcast was rega
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This is how I compare: In those days (late 80s, not early 90s by the way...no Amigas or Atari ST in the early 90s) I was a MS-DOS developer. I moonlit by writing programming books, including one for the Mac. I also did a proposal for an Atari ST book, and so spent a fair bit of time coding on that thing. At the time, power was roughly equal on the three machines.
But you're ignorance really shows when you talk about games, because the Amiga w
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How will the Cell processor help with AI? AI works better on a general-purpose processor. The 360 has the advantage here, with three general purpose cores, each with two hardware threads. The Cell has one general purpose core, with two threads.
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Bonus features like that already exist on modern DVD-based games, but most games out there still aren't filling up a single-layer DVD, let alone a dual-layer or a Blu-ray disk. Extra disk space is a total non-event.
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No offence, but have you used the sixaxis? The actual tilt mechanism is quite, quite laggy. And unfortunately in any control interface a little bit of lag will lead to a lot of player overcompensation oscillation cycles. It's basically unusable in the current crop of games, though the potential exists that they could improve their bluetooth
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Hah!
Blu-Ray will get us one thing and one thing only:
"Xenosaga Syndrome" will become terminal.
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You sound just like Sony's PR...
What we are discussing here is if we really need better physics and graphics (the cell won't make a better online experience). Better AI is probably a good thing, but the cell won't also help it that much.
Also, the cell is HARD to program for. VERY HARD. A good programer can make efficient code for it, but any miss can destroy the performance of the hole program. It would be very nice to have optimizing compilers for the platform, and to get libraries that solve the hard pa
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But doesn't the 360 controller's vibrate function make the sixaxis controller look disabled by comparison?
Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:4, Insightful)
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Say what you want about it, but Win95 was the first end-user-oriented, preemptive multitasking, (poorly) protected-memory operating system. (We won't count OS/2, because we all know that despite its marketing, it was never end-user-oriented) Crow all you want about OSX, but '95 had been through 3 major revisions by the time it showed up, and Win2k showed up at approximately the same time.
And as for it being D
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Which is smart advice. It is UTTERLY POINTLESS to buy a new console for 6 months because there nothing to play on it. That goes for the 360, PS3 or Wii.
Buyer's remorse (Score:5, Insightful)
I can certainly see buyer's remorse sneaking in after people play it for a few days and realize that maybe it isn't $500 cooler than their old PS2.
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When I heard the store I was in announce they had three PS3's, I figured they'd be gone in a minute and this was my chance to make a profit. I was able to get one.
Then I found out, the hard way:
a) They are superabundant on ebay and only selling for about retail.
b) Amazon won't let you sell one unless you have a long history.
c) Craigslist has "scalper hunters" who are flagging PS3 sales to get them removed.
Because of a), it is unlikely that you can make much reselling i
Personal Experience (Score:5, Interesting)
I realized he had four PS3s on the table. I said "No, thanks." and kept walking. Chuckling to my fiance about it.
I remembered that a friend of the family was looking for one, so I started a long chain of calls to get in contact with them. Her son arrived a little over an hour later to pick one up.
To see four PS3s sitting on the table.
In the front of the store.
With a guy asking everyone who passed if they wanted one.
On Christmas Eve.
This does not bode well.
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I'm glad I wasn't drinking my soda when I read that.
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More fanboyinsm. (Score:2)
And posted anonymously by Jason, no less.
It's not fanboyism, but it's also not astroturfing (Score:2)
Oh, it's obvious? How is that obvious? Do you have any kind of evidence? Or could it just be that the Wii is freaking fun to play, and people like to talk about it?
I agree, though, this is much more than fanboyism. But it's not astroturfing: People are simply genuinely excited about the Wii.
How is this news? (Score:4, Funny)
Imagine that... (Score:4, Funny)
My Humble Opinion (Score:4, Interesting)
I love consoles and I'm sure I'll end up with one...but it'll be at least 6 months. Luckily I just moved to a 1080p DLP set from my older HD RPTV that didn't do 720p. If I had my old set everything I've played except for GT HD would have been shown in 480p.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. (Score:3, Informative)
It's a cheap knockoff, and everybody knows it except idiot Sony fanboys.
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The PS3 doesn't have motion-sensing technology. It has gyros that can sense the controller's tilt. No MEMS accelerometers, and no position sensitivity.
It's a cheap knockoff, and everybody knows it except idiot Sony fanboys.
He says that there is no motion-sensing and then states that the gyros can detect the tilt. He's clearly drawing a distinction between the two types of motion. Yes, you're right, the controller detects rotation, b
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Have a pedantic day, good sir!
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Anyone with a brain capable of critical thinking would have been able to deduce what the poster meant by the tone of the post and its context. While you are correct in your statement, all you're doing is arguing sementics. Just about anyone reading the post would get it, unless they have extremly little deduct
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And you'd be right. You are moving relative to the water (but not relative to the boat) however in common parlance, the boat is not "moving", it's rocking. Hence the word you used. Hence the difference between rotation and "movement" the original posted pointed out.
No, I'm not. Motion means motion - there's no room for semantic wriggle-room there.
Well I'd argue that its not undergoing motion since it
Cuiusvis hominis est errare... (Score:2)
Well I guess I may be a little coloured by my exposure to mathematics, but none of my friends would refer to a rotating body as "moving", but they're mostly physicists and computer scientists, so th
PS3 60GB: $630 on eBay (Score:2)
A PS3 just went for $630 on eBay. Almost down to retail. We'll probably see the speculators trying to dump unsold stock starting tomorrow.
when you add in all the fees (Score:2)
unless the seller is (over)charging $100 for shipping, they could have lost money on this sale.
Compared to the Wii, which is still going for $400+ It's still worth a professional ebay sellers time to snatch them up as soon as they go on sale, and flip them on ebay.
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Silly, actually... once the market dropped I'm surprised people didn't just return them.
PS3 sucks (Score:2, Interesting)
I refuse to defend the PS3... (Score:2)
I have no reason to believe that this game isn't top-notch, except for the detail of "I haven't played it yet". That should be corrected over the next few weeks at minimum.
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Yes I was given a couple of copies of Q4 for xmas!... we had a gory-death fest at the house with the family.
(Gotta love it when games hit the bargain bin! $19.95 each!)
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Precious... (Score:2)
ryanw loves himself some scientific explanations of the PS3's superiority:
Wow, three times more powerful! Who would have thought! And the modders declare:
Precious little Slashdot... :-)
I wish I didn't, but I did... (Score:3, Insightful)
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That's what I did (Score:3, Interesting)
I ended up trading it today with a friend who got a Wii. I gave him a PS3, he gave me the Wii + 350. Best trade ever.
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Is friendship worth anything to you, though?
Link to the original (Score:2, Informative)
http://gigagamez.com/2006/12/22/ps3s-being-traded- for-wiis/ [gigagamez.com]
And the link was even right in the write up, no searching required.
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From what i saw over the weekend (Score:2)
I thought about getting the ps3 but it felt silly to get it for just one game i'm sure i'll get one next year
Correct me if I'm wrong (Score:5, Funny)
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The way it is the excitement is pretty much died down. Many people who wou
Re:Wii woe (Score:4, Insightful)
can work both ways. I live in UK: no PS3 till March. if I had wanted one I would have seen it as them telling me to fuck off and told them the same.
Nintendo launching everywhere as much as possible shows respect to their customers imo. I was able to get a Wii, and so was everyone else who knew about the launch beforehand and was prepared to put a little work in (refreshing amazon.co.uk for 40mins).
expecting to get a Wii straight away when only deciding to get one *after* it has had a massive launch and become a hit is just childish. but telling your customers they can't even think about having one for 4 months is just insulting.
(to all UK PS3-wanters: you only get treated this way because you put up with it.)
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My fiance keeps looking at her coworkers in shock when they whine about the fact that she has a Wii and none of them do. If they'd done like me and spent an hour out in the cold one morning back in October to reserve one, they'd have one, too. But instead they'd rather sit around and cry about how it's not fair that we got one and they didn't. They're acting like Nintendo
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Now I'll wait until the strongly rumored January price drop and their appearance in stores.
No Wii price drop. (Score:3, Insightful)
There is no strongly rumored January price drop, there isn't even a weakly rumored January price drop. There is only a, "one guy said on Slashdot that he thinks there will be a January" price drop.
There will be no price drop. There is no reason for a price drop. Demand still outweighs supply, why on Earth would anyone even consider a price drop?
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Sometimes you just find yourself in
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Wii however, has like 3-4 games I want now now now now now. But no Wii >.
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Either way, I don't have much interest in a game system for myself, solo, but for family fun, so I think the Wii is a good choice. I'll see if I can pick one up tomorrow.