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Comment Re:Snowden also did something illegal (Score 1) 318

What exactly constitutes incitement to violence is a matter of great (legal) debate.

I'm talking about ordinary usage of words, not what rises to a crime under legal code.

It would be silly for us to get into that debate and I will not entertain it any further

Good, because I'm not interested in it either, and you're the one who brought in the legal angle late in the game, not me.

even more so because you are ignoring and deflecting from my main points. Either respond to those or fuck off.

It's your fault for trying to use overly broad terminology as an excuse for what occurred.

That does not mean that Foval's group [actively incited violence | pick whatever term you like that describes what you know I mean]

I already did choose unambiguous and correct terms. Why do you feel the need to revert back to terms that are at best misleading, and at worst deceitful? The phrase I used is accurate, and I agree that they did not do this: "directly advocating others to commit violence".

Don't get me wrong: It's certainly a nasty tactic to deliberately try to influence the image of the Trump campaign by throwing a bunch of red meat in between his dogs and watch them tear it up

Yes, it is a nasty tactic to deliberately incite violence. I'm glad you can acknowledge that.

A sizable portion of Trump-supporters are still mean-spirited violent assholes.

I asked you what sizable was. Because if it's so significant and deserves all this attention, why is most of the violence and interruption of rallies coming from the other side with very little attention in comparison? Where are the mass demonstrations interrupting Clinton's rallies? Where's the violence against her rallies? Funny how that works out.

You don't get to pretend they are not and you don't get to claim that "we now know the violent rallies to be staged".

All I know about a handful of cases, and while the violent acts themselves weren't staged, the incitement to violence was.

By the way, I'm not the original poster who made the "staged" comment you responded to. Like you, I responded to one particular statement that was an overreach in your comment. If it's ok for you to do that, it's ok for me.

Comment Re:Snowden also did something illegal (Score 1, Troll) 318

lets not get into a fruitless semantic discussion

I'm not giving you a free pass to use words in contradiction with their actual meaning.

Driving around a bad black neighborhood in a car with KKK-markings and slogans printed on it.

And how do you think the media would have reacted if the Trump campaign did something like this to elicit a violent response?

only one of them is actively inciting violence

And this is where I insist you use correct terminology. What you are trying to say is only one of them is directly advocating others to commit violence, but you're using much looser language that actually describes what happened and then saying it didn't happen. Words have meaning, use them correctly.

you agree that a sizable portion of Trump-supporters are still mean-spirited violent assholes

What is "sizable"? My point, since you're trying to score political points against Trump, is that the anti-Trump violence is worse and gets much less coverage. You haven't disputed that.

Comment Re:Snowden also did something illegal (Score 0) 318

That does not mean that Foval's group actively incited violence

Umm, yes it does. They took deliberation action to elicit a violent response. Do you have a problem with basic definitions?

A sizable portion of Trump-supporters are still mean-spirited violent assholes.

And yet the worst of the violence was directed at Trump supporters in places like San Jose, their have been countless death threats publicly posted on Twitter against Trump, people posting pictures of themselves stealing Trump signs, etc. But you don't get wall-to-wall coverage about that, do you?

Comment Re:Minefield (Score 1) 547

Islam is a religion, although one I"m not fond of.

Repeating yourself doesn't address my argument. It's also a political ideology.

That it's not an inherently evil religion is shown by the historical record.

The historical record shows that it is inherently militant, expansionist, and authoritarian. But you'd actually have to look at the historical record instead of burying your head in the sand. I provided two links in my last post, and I'm certain you have not perused them, because they show the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

They don't necessarily share Western values, but I don't see that that's a problem.

That's because you are a useful idiot. You'll gladly bash Trump over perceived bigotry, while giving a free pass to a political ideology straight from medieval times.

This suggests that Muslims will adapt their religion to their environment, and come to share Western values.

You've got it wrong. Muslims are not integrating, especially when they arrive in numbers. But again, you'd rather just bury your head in the sand and ignore reality on the ground.

The West isn't fragile

It can be, when taken over by a political correctness gone mad and an unwillingness to say no to destructive immigration policies or be too afraid to have an honest discussion about Islam.

Comment Re:Minefield (Score 2) 547

Islam is a religion.

It's also a political ideology that seeks to impose its values on others.

but the Muslims I've known are quite reasonable and hardly ever go on jihaidic shooting sprees

Sure, there are plenty of moderate Muslims. But even then a large number of them do not share Western values.

Most Muslims, like most Christians and most Buddhists, want to live their own reasonably peaceful lives.

Islam at its core is an expansionist and violent religion, unlike Buddhism, and unlike the actual gospels of Christianity (even if there was a period of authoritarian theocracy). That's why Islam has bloody borders.

They may provide political support for things I find despicable, but that's not a serious problem, given the numbers that are fleeing to the West.

Given all the problems caused by just a tiny percentage, why do you think it's a good idea to increase it? Islam is a fundamental threat to the West.

Comment Re:He was never really honored the first time arou (Score 1) 90

Even calling him "a" father is too much. His flavors won out, but they were not groundbreaking. I'd actually rate what Jobs accomplished higher.

Von Neumann and Turing, yup I agree. But I think the king is Douglas Engelbart, whose Mother of All Demos defined modern day computing as we know it today, in 1968. He was 20 years ahead of his time.

Comment Re:Because Windows Sucks (Score 1) 265

Linux is a major server OS (arguably the largest), very big in embedded systems, and completely dominant on smartphones. Hackers are spending very significant time working to find exploits.

And they're finding them. By the way, calling the OS on smartphones "Linux" is a bit daft. It's a modified Linux kernel, yes, but the OS is Android.

Comment Re:Minefield (Score 2) 547

You fucking asshole. What's under contention: "against racial or gender equality"

What you said: "He wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US. If that's not an "agenda that is against equality", then what is?"

Islam is not a race or a gender. It's a dangerous political ideology founded by a conquering warlord that does not share Western values. It's the most militant religion on the planet that's stated goals are to subjugate the rest of the world to Islam.

And the stupidest thing about you useful idiots? It's the most backwards ideology when it comes to gender equality in the world today.

Comment Re:But what is it used for? (Score 1) 252

Yes, I know it has locks. So does Java. The "threads and locks" model (goroutines are essentially threads, no need to argue with me, I've seen you do it elsewhere), where the programmer has to figure out what to properly lock, is prone to bugs.

This is the same kind of mess when it comes to pointers, memory management, and C -- exactly the kind of mess Go and languages like Java left behind because it was such a mess. Go missed an opportunity to do something truly useful here.

Comment Re:hogwash (Score 1) 252

What a load of baloney.

Yep, taking Tiobe at face value is foolish. Their methodology is shit. Look at job openings, book sales, how busy the forums are, etc. Look at a bunch of stuff. But do not assume that Tiobe's single, brittle method of ranking languages is accurate, especially when it comes to languages that share a common word like "go".

Comment Re:He was never really honored the first time arou (Score 1) 90

Especially since Steve Jobs in relative terms contributed almost nothing to the world

Except bring the world's first recognizable PC (hardware) to the masses with the first Apple. He also brought the windows model of UI to the masses too. I'm no fan of Apple, and never liked the reality distortion field around Jobs, but Jobs had drive and vision, and you need guys like that to harness the engineers.

while Ritchie is an undisputed father of modern computing.

His flavors of OS and language won out, both of which were based on previous designs. Calling him the "undisputed father of modern computing" is ridiculous.

Comment Re:I want to be reincarnated as Linus Torvalds (Score 1) 294

Are you saying that the GNU software did not execute on top of his kernel until he used the same license?

I've already commented on this, presumably to another Anonymous Coward: "But nobody ships just kernels to end users. They ship operating systems, including the kernel and the userland tools "as part of a whole", and that's where the GPL kicks in."

It's about distributing the GPL code "as part of a whole".

GPL did not attempt to prevent people from running their software inside a closed system until GPLv3 (IIRC, using GPL code like Tivo did was one of the main things GPLv3 was supposed to prevent).

The Tivo thing is a different issue. All the code was GPL, but the user had no access to it because the hardware was locked.

Comment Re:I want to be reincarnated as Linus Torvalds (Score 1) 294

No doubt this is precisely because of the constant push for pragmatic action now and a willing to do drastic rewrites later.

Worse is better in action.

Beyond that, sure the result was aimed at cloning *nix-like functionality.

Right, I was talking about this, not Minix.

He flamed Tridgell because Linus liked Bitkeeper and didn't want others to rock the boat over some ideological view about freedom.

That was the real reason that anybody with half a brain knew. But what he said in public was:

"He didn't create something new and impressive. He just tore down something new (and impressive) because he could, and rather than helping others, he screwed people over. And you expect me to _respect_ that kind of behaviour?"

What a hypocritical dick. I wonder if he's ever apologized for that one, or acknowledged his mistake? Maybe to this day he still thinks that bullshit is right.

That's not how copyright works. The GNU code is userland and generally not derivative of the underlying kernel.

I didn't say the kernel was derivative. But nobody ships just kernels to end users. They ship operating systems, including the kernel and the userland tools "as part of a whole", and that's where the GPL kicks in.

No, he chose the GPL because he didn't want others taking his code and just using it without contributing back.

No, he really did choose the GPL because he wanted to plug his kernel into GNU. There's a post from the early days somewhere in Usenet archives where he states this. Choosing GPL was the path of least resistance.

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