Indoor Tropical Island 356
fons writes "The huge construction dome of the now bankrupt zeppelin maker CargoLifter, has been turned into an indoor tropical island. For about 20euro a day you can swim in the sea, take a walk in the rainforest or go to a beachparty. While it is snowing outside, it's a always a pleasant 25C on the island. And there are no tsunami's. It's bigger than Biosphere2 (it fits the Eiffeltower) but there's less sunlight. Would you spend your vacation in there? The Germans don't seem to be very eager."
Dammit (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously (Score:2)
Re:Dammit (Score:2)
That said, 25C is a bit cold for swimming on the beach. 30C (or even 40C) would be more like a tropical island, and would be great if they could keep the water just a bit cooler...
Re:Dammit (Score:2)
Or not.
Re:Dammit (Score:2)
Re:Dammit (Score:2, Funny)
I've got it! Because they can't get past Holland!
-Peter
No sky (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:No sky (Score:2, Funny)
1) Live in big domes with fake skies.
2) Watch the crystal in your hand turn black on your 30th birthday.
3) Go to Carousel.
10 dollar Amazon gift certificate to the first person to name the movie in this thread! Can't be an AC.
Re:No sky (Score:2)
Re:No sky (Score:2)
Re:No sky (Score:2)
Re:No sky (Score:2)
ummm, NO (Score:2)
and blinks with a red light from just before age 30 and onward.
The Weasel (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Weasel (Score:5, Funny)
Euro conversion (Score:2)
Yes, you can stay longer and get charged more but I'm just using the base cost.
Re:Euro conversion (Score:3, Funny)
The exchange rate is even better for me here in the UK, my pounds buy me a ton of stuff at Thinkgeek!
Re:Euro conversion (Score:2)
Would you spend your vacation in there? (Score:2)
Probably not. Since it's in Germany it's as expensive or more expensive to travel there than to the real thing. Plus the extra incentive that's it's not artifical.
But I suppose that's a pretty American-Centric view. If I was in say Latvia, I'd definitly go.
Re:Would you spend your vacation in there? (Score:2)
The television weather teams have worn out their thesaurui trying t
How long.. (Score:3, Insightful)
It would be a safe (As in child molesters can't get in) and private (yet still free and among nature). It seems the perfect solution to a problem we don't even have (sort of..).
Re:How long.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How long.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How long.. (Score:2)
The only downside... (Score:2, Funny)
Survivor: Rura' Penthe' - The future of television (Score:2)
No, actually this season is rumored to be a joint production with the Klingon Empire's Tourism Board (also plagued by economic concerns, cf. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country [imdb.com]), called Survivor: Rura' Penthe' [tos.net] : Due to the dome, the audience gets the best of both worlds, as candidates have bat'let
Drang nach Osten! (Score:5, Funny)
Everybody knows that a real German's idea of a vacation is invading Poland.
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:2)
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:3, Informative)
You my friend obviously do not know history. At that time, Poland was divided between among three invaders: Prussia, Austria, and Russia. Saying that it belonged to those countries is either ignorant or insensitive. It was one of the darkest times in Poland's history.
Map: Partition of Poland [thomasgraz.net]
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:2)
Slight change... (Score:2)
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:5, Insightful)
The Americans offered then the opportunity to join in the Iraqi invasion, kill anyone and everyone they want to, set up the most delicious camps, grab all the cheap oil that they want, letting Uncle Sam pick up the whole tab...and they turned it down?
Whatever happened to the good old Germany that we grew up with? Watching Combat on television and The Dirty Dozen at the movies?
Achtung!..you pussies
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:3, Funny)
Popular sterotypes are nearly immortal. Don't forget that the French still love to surrender, and America saved the world's ass in Dubya-Dubya-Two. Hell, half of the US still worships the Confederate flag.
Maybe things will change by the 22nd century...
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:2)
Sad to think that the enduring stereotype in the parent posters mind is that of Germans as the war-mongers of history (with all of its swastika associations)...
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Drang nach Osten! (Score:4, Funny)
Getting back to Germans, war (flamethrowers, bombs and the like) was just their initial attempt to achieve their standard burning. They've since figured out that spending copious amounts of time lying on a beach without using sunscreen accomplishes this in a much more controlled fashion while making the rest of the world slightly less annoyed at them. It would be considerably less were it not for their strict adherance to the "Speedo" dresscode.
Coralized Link (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.my-tropical-islands.com.nyud.net:8090/
No culture (Score:3, Interesting)
oh the pain... (Score:3, Funny)
I remember this feeling. It's the same feeling I had when I was a young nerd, trying to save up enough money for a 4 generation old computer, watching my clients use their top of the line $5,000 machines to play solitare....
Next youre going tell me they are using space shuttles for tourists; and advanced cybernetics for robotic pets...
Ladies and gentelmen: The dark side of capitalism.
Ah, the joy! (Score:2, Interesting)
The dark side (Score:5, Insightful)
It's when there are other things that *ought* to be getting done, but we're too busy using *the same technology* to make life enjoyable and *not* doing those things.
Case in point: Space Tourism
I'd *love* to be a space tourist. If it ever gets down into my price range while I'm healthy enough, I will. But if we get *so* preoccupied with space tourism that we don't think or prepare for comet/asteroid detection and deflection, that's bad. If tourism prevents exploration, that's bad. At the moment, I don't think this situation exists. In fact, I think space tourism will make people *more* conscious of the things we ought to be doing in space, and more supportive of them.
But preoccupation with entertainment at the expense of real goals is something to watch out for.
Re:The dark side (Score:2, Insightful)
Some company figures, "Hey! I could make a few bucks with this stuff!", and spawns the fun/silly stuff.
The large organization that developed the tech to make it possible thinks "Awww... how cute, ok back to the science."
Re:The dark side (Score:2)
Those bastards! Making life enjoyable! Man this really churns my butter!
Re:The dark side (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Ah, the joy! (Score:2)
But nothing wrong with it no.
Re:Ah, the joy! (Score:2)
You think THIS is bad? (Score:3, Interesting)
What happened at Kalkar was FAR worse - far more money was invested (i.e. wasted) by various governments. Read all about it here [askoxford.com]. My parents paid the extra "Kalkar tax" (to pay for the reactor) for years and years, and now it, too, is a theme park. And not even a nuclear theme park, it is simply a health spa. I know, I visited while you could still see mos
Re:You think THIS is bad? (Score:2)
Meh (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Meh (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Meh (Score:2)
In Japan... (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.gluckman.com/IndoorBeach.html
Re:In Japan... (Score:2, Informative)
what i'd like to see (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems like it could be a lot simpler than what Biosphere 2 tried to do, and a lot more likely to be successful. It would also be beneficial in helping us figure out what we'll need for long-term space missions.
Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:5, Insightful)
. .
I think what really gets me is how flip people are feeling they can be about this in the West. Yes, Slashdot is global, yada yada, but it's readership is, for the most part, centered outside the affected area and in the United States in particular, so I blame us.
I live in New York, and what struck me was the global outpouring of sympathy after September 11, which killed 3,000 people, and it was months before anyone felt comfortable enough to to discuss anything but the horror.
But now, just a week after 118,000 parents and children and brothers and sisters have been drowned in a single moment, we start making fun little tsnumai references to set off an article on an indoor beach. That, and going to our climate-controlled indoor beaches are all part of our healing process, I suppose.
Sorry, I have a pretty high threshold, but that makes me ill.
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:3)
being outside of America- I didn't really see it, or feel it.
If you lived in Indonesia- you may have a different perspective when aid comes in, and people began to return.
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:2)
That's it for me in a nutshell. There are so many unnecessary deaths in the world that the ones caused by nature are last on my list to care about unless they affect me. I'd rather focus on things that are directly the fault of humans (well, besides beachfront property) like how the prison system in america is a breeding ground for hepatitis, HIV, and violent criminal activity, or how the poverty industry of which it is a part keeps thousands of people in the poorhouse while purporting to be their salcatio
I agree, but... (Score:5, Insightful)
Humor has always been a way to deal with things you don't understand and can't grasp. In Africa, there are tribes in which the normal response to seeing something unimaginably horrifying - like a pile of dead, decaying human bodies - is to laugh. This is not amusement, it's a reaction to the incomprehensible, a way to deal with it. In the West, there's a veneer of cynicism over this response, but in the end joking about something like this is an acknowledgement that there's really not much else to be done about it (aside from actually donating or dropping everything to fly to the affected areas).
That said, people should be more aware that their offhand comments can seem incredibly insensitive to people who are more directly affected.
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:2, Informative)
it was months before anyone felt comfortable enough to to discuss anything but the horror
Really? I seem to remember a couple of shockwave games where you shoot planes before they have a chance to fly into sky scrapers, and a whole slew of tasteless (but amusing to the desensitized) animations, visuals, and games.
I have a pretty high threshold, but that makes me ill
I think you have overestimated your threshold
Get Over It, Dude. (Score:2)
I'm not American. To me, Americans taking offense at someone feeling '9/11 is irrelevant' is more offensive. The U.S. gov't, and its people (and its psycho-techno-militant-industrial complex) used 9/11 'as an excuse', with 'the emotions of the people' toyed with all so well, oh so cleverly, to produce the results desired: wanton invasion, and promotion of warfare, on a global scale.
Wh
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:3, Informative)
I really didn't mean to be insensitive.
I thought my reference was pretty neutral. It certainly wasn't meant to be a "fun little tsunami reference". I was trying to by cynical about the Indoor Island. But obviously that didn't work
Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I can assure you that I take this disaster in Asia very seriously.
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:2)
Yes, and if you posted anything like that on teh intarweb(tm) you would receive death threats from half a dozen americans who would go on about how it was the worst thing to ever have happened to anyone anywhere...
/Mikael
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:3, Insightful)
Bah. I live in one of the tsunami-hit countries, I know missing people, I still cry when I read some of the stories (there, now I've gone and done it, admitted on Slashdot that I cried), but I've also heard delicate little jokes here and there and I don't see that as a cause to pick up the torches and pitchforks. Humor is definitely one of the ways people deal with tragedy, and I
Re:Sorry to be a downer, but it's important. (Score:2)
I see a Seinfeld episode coming on.... (Score:5, Funny)
Precognition (Score:5, Funny)
Ha, Animats [slashdot.org] was more right than he even knew!
Re:Precognition (Score:2)
I have a track record at predicting failures. I did Downside's Deathwatch [downside.com].
As indoor oceans go, this CargoLifter one is unimpressive. It's just a big pool. Phoenix SeaGaia OceanDome [seagaia.co.jp] is much better. They have surf, powered by really big pumps. And the roof opens. [lfsamhk.com]
Hide the roof! (Score:2, Interesting)
Would be a bit tricky to match the projection with the roof geometry, but can think of some cool thinks to do.
The Sky (Score:2)
Less risky than Aceh Bandeh, isn't it? (Score:2)
Why the Germans won't go there (Score:5, Insightful)
Another Reason (Score:2)
Distinct lack of nubile native girls (Score:5, Funny)
Unfortunately, (Score:5, Funny)
A three hour tour.
Re:Unfortunately, (Score:2)
I live in Germany. (Score:5, Interesting)
Germans ain't got no beach. So what if they've now 'got one' in a bubble, it still ain't no beach. That said, its still frickin' cool
And
[If it weren't for my perfect German job, I'd be back home on the beaches tomorrow, sheesh..]
Re:I live in Germany. (Score:2)
You are there to get a nice fast German car/ Bike and go nuts around the Nurburgring.
Re:I live in Germany. (Score:2, Informative)
How long have you been in Germany exactly? Have you ever tried the beaches in the north? Sure, it is not exactly the Caribbean here, but then you cannot really expect that here, or in Denmark, or Great Britain, or other northern european countries with access to the sea. We do have beaches almost along our entire coastline and a lot of tourism in that region.
You fail to realize that not everybody wants tropical heat for a vacation, sometimes, just having a beach (you know, sand, the ocean) is sufficient.
Re:I live in Germany. (Score:4, Informative)
What in the fires of hell are you talking about? German's North Sea shoreline has some truly beautiful beaches, especially the islands. Admittedly, the weather is usually a tad chilly there, but in August the water temperatures sometimes approach 20 deg Celsius. And what's even better - you don't need a big towel, since the wind will blow you dry when you get out of the water ;-)
Re:I live in Germany. (Score:3, Funny)
you don't need a big towel, since the wind will blow you dry when you get out of the water
My nipples explode with delight!
Re:I live in Germany. (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm Canadian, never been to Germany, never been to Australia (though I would love to visit both places), and have never been to any place that remotely resembles tropical weather. However I have travelled all over my own country and about half of the US, and everyplace you travel to will have something special to offer. You just have to find it, instead of lamenting what was left behind.
They'd have to find their market (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously. Take a look at Cancun. It's not that less artificial.
Speedo Sausage fest (Score:2, Insightful)
I think the dirigibles were a better biz plan... (Score:2)
If it's anything like Mall of America... (Score:3, Interesting)
I suspect this is a case where it's going to take some time to work out the kinks, and hope the owners took that into account when doing their business plan.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this become successful - eventually. I also wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen until the debt had been restructured, and possibly through transfer to new ownership.
Just my .02 worth...
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For my other .98, check here [blogspot.com] :-)
Been there, done that.... (Score:4, Interesting)
i've been there last thursday for about four hours. At that time, about 5.000 other people did the same. On some days between the holidays, the dome had to be closed due to overcrowding (max. 7.500 people at the same time). The visit was the birthday present for my girlfriend (together with a musical visit later that day).
The dome is extremely impressive. The size dwarves everything i ever seen before. I'm familier with large halls (productions sites) due to my connections to AIRBUS, but those are much smaller. The Statue of Liberty would fit inside the dome upright. The mentioned Eiffel tower would fit only if laid down. The tropical feeling suffers from the size. Only lower 10m (30feet) contain some tropical stuff (houses, plants, pools), the remaining dome looks still industrial. It seemed a little dark to me, i would have prefered more and warmer light.
The temperature inside is as warm as advertised. Both pools were overcrowded and queuing up was required for nearly everything (food, toilett, entry, cashier, changing cubicle, etc.). Prices are very fair. Overall rating would be a "B". There a quite a lot places to improve, but i hope the "Tropical Island" will survive.
For geeks: Every person entering the dome receives a card with a RFID chip. This card is used to pay food, drinks, etc. The RFID chip even operates the lockers (instead of a key). On exiting the dome, you pay according to the bill for your RFID card. Unluckily they had some trouble with this process. So it was up to "What did you have?" and paying what you told them.
The dome is open round the clock; i would recommend to visit it during the night, when there are less visitors (there were too many small children for my taste). You can even rent a tent for inside camping ;-).
If anyone is interested, i can add links to images and a short video later.
Regards, Martin
And I thought... (Score:2)
And I thought my heating bills were expensive.
(if they made the thing out of glass, they'd at least have a greenhouse effect.)
Much Cooler... (Score:2)
Maybe we'll see some new uses for these neat spherical blimps [21stcenturyairships.com] sometime soon.
Pretty damn tasteless. (Score:2)
Thats the same thing as saying "And no worries about some plane crashing into you!" in September 2001.
100,000 people died last week, I'd say its a tad too early to start making wisecracks about it to sell your product.
Here's another one (Score:2)
OT Nitpick (Score:2)
Sorry, had to get that out.
25C is too cold (Score:2)
40C is closer to the mark for summertime. Don't forget your sunscreen!
Amazing... (Score:3)
The fact that I've read every post on this thread and there isn't a SINGLE "news for nerds" comment in the lot.
No questions about how it works.
No questions about why the zeppelin co. failed and whether or not it really could succeed (for cargo).
Hell, not even a comment about Beowulf clusters of these things
Not to be a lemming here but is slashdot the new Fark? I used to come here to be a fly on the wall as people much smarter than me debated the science, engineering, programming, and overall impact of "news for nerds". Well, the news may be for nerds, but the comments are for children.
Where are you my old-ass slashdotter friends? And I mean that in sincerity. If anyone knows, please let me in on the secret so I can get back to reading about things I enjoy instead of the constant whining and/or political slant.
Thank You.
Re:I'd like a smaller one (Score:2)
Different server with pics (Score:5, Informative)
on the German site (has a different IP, so should work as a mirror):
http://www.thetropical-islands.com/fotos-opening.
(English version (with less pics) is also available:
http://www.my-tropical-islands.com/engl/fotos-ope
Re:Very few (Score:3, Informative)
That isn't the issue the parent was complaining about, it was the use of an apostrophe to indicate a plural. "'s" indicates possession, not multiplicity. It's one of my pet-peeves, too. How often do I want to strangle a store owner for having a sign that says "Thank's!". Ugh!
Re:Very few (Score:2)
One deer, two deer, a million deer...
One tsunami, two tsunami, a million tsunami...?
It doesn't sound that bad...