Intel Names Upcoming Chips 216
Phooey42 writes "USA Today is reporting that Intel has finally announced names for their new set of desktop and notebook processor lines, previously dubbed Conroe and Merom. The new chips for both the desktop and laptop lines will be dubbed "Core 2 Duo", whereas their new "premium processor" for high end desktop users will be called the "Core 2 Extreme". Knowing Intel, who would have ever thought that the successor to the Core Duo would be the Core 2 Duo!?"
Nice to see Intel stepping it up a bit. (Score:5, Interesting)
Intel PowerMacs/Xserves possible in June (Xeon) (Score:3, Interesting)
Another replier mentioned Woodcrest (Xeon), which I agree is more likely than Conroe (but not a sure thing). In case you didn't know, Woodcrest is scheduled to be introduced in June [arstechnica.com] (Conroe in July, Merom in August).
Even though Pentiums and Xeons have shared the same core since P6 (Pentium 2), Intel has reserved some workstation/
Re:Nice to see Intel stepping it up a bit. (Score:2)
The problem is that Conroe is designed to go into $800 Dell systems. Apple could use it for midline models, but for a $2000 machine they better be using Xeon/Woodcrest to stay competitive with other PC vendors at that price point.
Suggested name for the next line of processors: (Score:5, Funny)
Deuling Core 2 Dual Duo! (Score:2)
With dual SLI, of course!
Re:Deuling Core 2 Dual Duo! (Score:2)
Re:Suggested name for the next line of processors: (Score:4, Funny)
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VANILLA ICE!! (Score:2)
Ugh! (Score:5, Insightful)
For example, the "Core Duo" is a pretty unoriginal name for a dual core processor, and I've seen a lot of people start referring to dual core CPUs as "DuoCore" or other such nonsense.
Core 2 Duo? Talk about redundant and confusing naming...
Re:Ugh! (Score:4, Funny)
Wait until you see its sequel: The Core 2 Duo 2
Re:Ugh! (Score:2)
Whatever do you mean? It should be blindingly apparent that the Core 2 Duo has 4 cores (i.e. - 2xCore Duo = 4 cores), no?
This is getting as bad as the automakers releasing model year vehicles well earlier than the actual calendar year begins. For example, you've been able to buy the new 2007 GM Denali/Yukon since January of 2006. Not to get off topic, but there should be a law against such lies (e.g. - if you sell a vehicle that was built in CY2006,
Re:Ugh! (Score:2, Insightful)
A new PowerMac (renamed) that will have:
Two, Dual Core, Core 2 Duo processors
That's a mouthful! And too redundant.
Re:Ugh! (Score:2)
That reminds me of a fantastic example I saw a few years ago.
I can't remember what car this was (or even the specific year), but I think it was a new Cadillac, model year 2004. I saw an ad for this car in a magazine dated December 2002! It was on the shelf in early November. Yikes! That was the most ludicrous example I've ever seen in automotive marketing.
Latest Trend in Branding (Score:5, Informative)
For example, Cadillac replaced the Seville and Deville with anonymous letters like STS and DTS. This puts more brand id on "Cadillac" part. And Apple is moving to a generic Mac* naming scheme to emphisize the "Apple" and "Mac" parts over the individual model names.
Intel had the problem that "Pentium" had such high brand recognition that it was difficult to move away from it, and after a while having products like "Pentium D" got very silly & confusing. They could create a new product brand like "Stupendium", but then they're starting at zero and they would just create the same problem again in the future. Instead they put that money behind "Intel" by picking a rather generic product names.
Re:Latest Trend in Branding (Score:2)
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Re:Latest Trend in Branding (Score:5, Insightful)
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The confusion in Intel's product names... (Score:2)
It seems like the "NetBurst" design is well and truly dead now. The laptop chips are making their way into the desktop arena, and therefore it makes sense for the company to rationalize the nam
Re:Ugh! (Score:2)
It's a second-gen "Core"-brand chip, with two cores. (2 being the generation, "Duo" or "Solo" being the number of cores in it.)
What were they supposed to do? Come up with a whole new brand instead of adding a "2"? (Though, since the Core brand just debuted this year, I think it may have been wiser to name it the "Core Duo Plus" or something.)
Personally, I think "Core" is a good name for a chip. It strongly implies the role of the product. Better th
Re:Ugh! (Score:2)
Yeah, AMD is much more clear with Opteron, Turion, Athlon, and Sempron.
Oh, and I dare you to pick a good Opteron model. There is only like 500.
Two many? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Two many? (Score:4, Funny)
thank you for calling the Corey Hotline (Score:5, Funny)
Re:thank you for calling the Corey Hotline (Score:2)
Re:thank you for calling the Corey Hotline (Score:2)
let's start a boycott (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:let's start a boycott (Score:2)
For instance, last week I was making up a fake doctors note to miss work. I had to come up with an ailment that sounded 1. Good enough to keep me from work, and 2. Gross enough so my coworkers would not bother to question it.
I was tempted to put Diarreah, but instead, I pulled out my trusty Websters Dictionary and came up with "Extreme Diarreah" It was so good they gave me the next day off as
Re:let's start a boycott (Score:3, Funny)
I'm sorry, but I'd have called your bluff, saying that that's an extremely crappy excuse.
--JoeWho's gonna buy the regular (Score:4, Funny)
You may risk getting insulted at Best Buy: "Look at that loser buying the regular core duo, guess he cant handle the extreme."
Oh you got served sucker.
Re:Who's gonna buy the regular (Score:2)
In other news... (Score:2)
Re:Who's gonna buy the regular (Score:3, Funny)
Sheesh, some people...
Re:Who's gonna buy the regular (Score:2)
Just wait for the next chip. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Just wait for the next chip. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Just wait for the next chip. (Score:2)
Got to be some subtlety here (Score:5, Funny)
I am guessing Intel had the same problem.
What committee thought that one up? (Score:2)
To Mr. and Mrs. America, standing in front of two computers at Best Buy and trying to figure out whether it's worth paying extra money for an Intel Core 2 Duo instead of an Intel Core Duo... heck, they aren't even going to be sure it's not just a misprint on the label.
Will there be an Intel Core 2 S
Re:What committee thought that one up? (Score:5, Insightful)
But these days, processor sales are geared towards the system builders and enthusiasts. Basically, it's up to Dell or HP or your local "mom and pop" system builder to choose an appropriate CPU for a given machine, and then to sell it on its merits to an end-user.
Really, with all the obfuscation of the true speeds of CPUs lately, not to mention all the variants with different numbers of pins on a socket, different amounts of internal cache, etc. - it seems like they're trying hard to ensure the "average user" *can't* understand exactly where the CPU they own benchmarks relative to the others.
Re:What committee thought that one up? (Score:2)
I have an old PC -- Compaq Deskpro XL 5133. Just by the name you can tell exactly what's in it. You couldn't do the same thing with a 3Ghz machine -- Intel has built dozens of d
Re:What committee thought that one up? (Score:2)
Monroe? (Score:2)
Looks like a collision between "Monroe [xnumber.com]" (not this one [marilynmonroe.com]) and "Cerom [cerom.fr]"...
I read in a magazine (Score:5, Funny)
Death Star (Score:3, Funny)
Hey, CmdrT, get an updated Intel logo, will ya? (Score:3, Funny)
stupid ass names... (Score:3, Insightful)
Assholes, just name the thing "2 cores @ 3.8 ghz with 2 MB Cache 800 FSB."
That always pissed me off about AMD too. processors with the same clock speed but varying amounts of cache warranted a different "fake speed name". Fuck that, I hate having to read a spec chart to figure out exactly whats in a god damn cpu.
Re:stupid ass names... (Score:3, Funny)
But then you get to explain to your mom what a core is, what a gigahertz is, what a megabyte is, what a cache is, and what a front side bus is. Have fun.
Re:stupid ass names... (Score:2)
Assuming that the person cares or wants to hear the explanation is often the first mistake. By naming products based on technical details, people are forced to understand (or at least feign comprehension) in order to make an informed decision. Not that "Core Duo 2" or whatever is any clearer, but at least it doesn't pretend to convey useful information when in fact it doesn't.
Simple ass reasons... (Score:2)
Please say you're kidding! (Score:2)
So by your logic I didn't buy a Honda Odyssey
Yeah, that'll work.
CPUs are way too complicated to ever fully identify them with their name. Get use to reading the specs, it's only going to get worse.
I for one actually really like the AMD approach. I periodically che
Re:Please say you're kidding! (Score:2)
Re:Please say you're kidding! (Score:2)
Re:Please say you're kidding! (Score:2)
Actually, there's been many cases where AMD has bumped their model number due to some internal change without any appreciable gain in performance.
AMD model numbers are based on an arbietariy formulas that change from time-to-time, and not any sort of realworld benchmark performance. Then you have the Turion chips which use a *di
Re:stupid ass names... (Score:2)
About Time (Score:2)
I can't wait for the new Macs that have these things.
Re:About Time (Score:2)
Rejected alternat names (Score:5, Funny)
Now wait a minute... (Score:2)
"Moe, Larry and Curly"
"Moe, Larry and Shemp"
"Moe, Larry and Curly-Joe"
names.
Obvious Missing Option (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Rejected alternat names (Score:2)
They were going to use "Tom & Kat," until they realized there was already a preceding marketing trademark.
What's inside Intel these days? (Score:3, Insightful)
Especially now that even Marketing is running out of ideas, evidenced by stupid product names and logos. (VIIV? 64? 75? Core 2 Duo... Extreme? Wha...?!)
Make the product perform better than the competition. Make "Intel Inside" *mean something*.
Do that, and I'd be willing to bet that everything else (including bad marketing) will take care of itself.
Making good processors? (Score:5, Informative)
Looks like it's going to swing back around on the desktop too. The Conroe, Intel's next gen desktop chip looks like it's a powerhouse. It's apparantly faster than what's out currently (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2713&p=1
To me, looks like Intel is doing just fine. I know it's popular to hate on Intel, but really, their products are not bad. AMD does not have some amazing, crushing superority. Their products are a little faster right now. Ok, great, looks liek Intel's products will be a little faster here soon, and I expect AMD to hit back with something not long after that.
Re:What's inside Intel these days? (Score:3)
The way I see it, is that the marketing guys have been doing a great job of hiding the fact that the engineering guys are dropping the ball.
Confuse the consumer - brilliant! (Score:5, Informative)
This means that consumers will have to rely more heavily on Best Buy and Dell to "guide" them right where Intel wants them - buying a computer with too much horsepower for what they want to do - send email and surf the web - but just enough so that when Vista arrives, it is "too slow" and an upgrade will be in order in a few years.
Re:Confuse the consumer - brilliant! (Score:2)
Sure would be nice... (Score:2)
Let me guess... (Score:2)
Huh? (Score:2, Funny)
More Name Rejects (Score:3, Funny)
1) CORE 2: The Meltdown
2) Dual HardCore Extreme2
3) Penetrino II
4) C.H.I.P.S. - Core Hardware Intel Pentium Substitute
5) The Dual Core Acute Consummate Maximal Intense Ultimate Severe Processor
Re:More Name Rejects (Score:2)
Core 2: Electric Boogaloo
It could have been worse (Score:4, Funny)
Finally! (Score:2)
I suppose Intel waited until they had a processor that could produce as much heat as she used to do.
Could be Worse... (Score:2)
name shmame. How well will it move data (Score:2)
Re:name shmame. How well will it move data (Score:2)
Shared L2 should help me alot (Score:2)
Apple using Intel chips (Score:2)
The only less original names... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The only less original names... (Score:2)
The "code" names can be boring but they're not meant to excite customers.
At least the product names are ok
Upcoming announcements include... (Score:2)
Apple introducing desktop Macintoshes with these chips.
This makes buying CPUs like buying Sony memory (Score:4, Insightful)
Memory Stick (with MagicGate)
Memory Stick Pro
Memory Stick Duo
Memory Stick Pro Duo
Darned if I know which one will or will not work in my camera. Looks like they want to do the same thing for motherboards.
Re:This makes buying CPUs like buying Sony memory (Score:2)
Memory Stick 2 Vista
Memory Stick 2 Extreme
Memory Stick Ultimate
Memory Stick Ultimate Pro
Memory Stick Ultimate Extreme
Memory Stick Ultimate Special Edition
Memory Stick Ultimate Special Ultimate Edition
Memory Stick Ultimate Special Ultimate Edition Duo
Memory Stick Ultimate Special Ultimate Edition Trio
Memory Stick Ultimate Turbo
Memory Stick Ultimate Turbo II Duo
Alternate names also considered: (Score:2)
Core Duo! Part Deux
Double Double (In talks with In-N-Out over naming rights)
It could have been worse (Score:2, Informative)
80x86 (Score:2)
586 (Pentium)
686 (PPro & PII)
786 (PIII)
886 (P4)
986 (Core)
A86 (Core 2)
Quad-core also..."Tukwila" (Score:2)
What will they call it upon retail? Core Quado? Core Duo-Duo?
Core vs. Core 2 (Score:2)
I'm confused about these new CPUs. I know the Core is based off the Pentium M, and the Core 2 uses a new micro-architecture, also based primarily off the Pentium M, as well as the Pentium III. My question is -- is the Core 2 a direct-line descendent from the Core? Or is the Core 2 the first to use the new micro-architecture, with the Core the last direct-line descendent of the Pentium M?
Re:Core vs. Core 2 (Score:2)
Yes.
Redundancy? (Score:2)
Well I was saving my jokes about redundancy for the Pentium 5, and was disappointed I wouldn't get to use them when they discarded the brand. But lo and behold, Intel gives me Core 2 Duo!
So why not just Core 4 instead? Since we're not in the Gigahertz race anymore, how about the naming scheme numbering race? Those lamers at AMD are sooo not with the program that their chips don't even have numbe
Re:Come on... (Score:4, Funny)
But then again they would have the clear cut case of never crossing market segments becuase the people that are concerned about one will probably not have any use for the other.
Re:Come on... (Score:2, Informative)
8086 . 80186 . 80286 . 80386 . 80486 and then magically 'Pentium',
based on the Latin for 5, I was convinced that there next one
would be 'Sexium', based on the Latin for 6.
And that really would have had 'Sex' appeal.
Re:Come on... (Score:2)
But I guess "hexium" as a name wouldn't make for a really lame joke.
Re:simple request (Score:2)
Given all of the other factors such as FSB speed, graphics card speed, general motherboard performance, etc. the overall "speed" of a CPU has become rather subjective at best. I guess all we can do is say: "oh yeah? My computer is faster than yours! nyaaah nyaaah nyaaaah."
(oh..and mine is. nyaah.)
Re:Naming (Score:2)
You can probably expect Core Trio or Core Quattro in a few years
Re:Naming (Score:2)
Oh wait...