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New Photo Fraud Detection Software
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on Sun Feb 05, 2006 04:22 AM
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An anonymous reader writes "CNet is reporting that Hany Farid, Professor of Computer Science and applied mathematics at Darthmouth College, has developed a new version of his Image Science Group's photo fraud software now in use by the FBI and large media organizations. The current software is written in Matlab, but the new version will be written in Java making it much more readily available to local police and smaller media organizations. From the article: 'I hope to have a beta out in the next six months,' Farid said. 'Right now, you need someone who is reasonably well-trained to use it.'"
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but... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://reallydodgy.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday January 05 2006, @03:54AM)
smash.
Very good idea, but... (Score:5, Funny)
(Last Journal: Wednesday January 18 2006, @05:05AM)
open source? (Score:5, Interesting)
followed by -
"...the software will be made freely available under an open-source license.
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"Taxpayers," he said, "are paying me to do this research and it needs to go back out." "
Which is it?
Re:open source? (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Friday February 11 2005, @04:09AM)
Or he might not know what he's talking about, and/or wanted to use the term "open source" for good free publicity.
Re:open source? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you really want to take the term 'open source' to the extreme, I could argue that even the GPL fails to meet some level of openness. The GPL restricts use of its source code on several accounts.
Re:open source? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 07, @06:50PM)
Odds are something got lost in translation. I met the guy a few years back and he's quite sharp and very nice and unpretentious. He gave me a copy of the paper this work is based on. I thought at the time he should commercialize it. Open source would be even better.
Anyway, the paper was published and an algorithm should be able to be implemented by anybody with the appropriate skills. So, somebody could do a GPL version even if he doesn't.
The company I was with at the time wasn't smart enough to accept his offer to collaborate on some research. Just as well for him, I say.
This article likes to contradict itself (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.icydog.net/)
As pointed out earlier, apparently the source code won't be released but it is open-source. Interesting.
Anyways, also FTFA:
So do they get accepted or rejected?
Same shot from a different angle... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://tonyc.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday February 17 2004, @12:12PM)
Outsource.. (Score:2)
Why Soviet Russia would love to go digital (Score:2)
In Soviet Union you airbrush scientist out of photo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_disappearance# Soviet_Union [wikipedia.org]
The fun a government can now have with this package will be great.
False positives to kill a story?
Could real digital "abusing prisoners" images now be spun as a hoax?
Just a few well placed reports as to the authenticity of any new digital images could kill a story?
Or lure a leaker out to 'prove' the reality of the images only to face character assassination?
Fallibility (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.mikey-san.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday March 04 2004, @06:23PM)
"Right now, you need someone who is reasonably well-trained to use it."
I would like to hope that if this software is going to be used for anything of consequence, that someone reasonably well-trained will always be using it. A system is only as good as its operator, ultimately.
It's a fraud, because my blackbox software says so (Score:5, Insightful)
On a different angle, I wonder how soon before such detection capabilities will be available to consumers either as an installable plugin or web-based feature. Imagine being able to verify the authenticity of any picture on the web, ranging from that nude shot of your ex- to that impossibly perfect low-light picture taken by your photography class buddy
Re:It's a fraud, because my blackbox software says (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.whitepost.org.uk/)
Thing is, does the same thing hold true when you're talking about detecting fakes (say), as opposed to building strong encryption? If I announce "Well, we can tell this photo isn't genuine because this part which shouldn't be in focus is", I've effectively announced to any potential fraudsters who might be listening "OK, folks, you need to learn to get your focusing correct".
Realistically, the only way such an algorithm remains secure is if it cannot be beaten even with a full understanding of how it works - and I would ask if such an algorithm even exists yet. If the algorithm is anything less than 100% effective, chances are it doesn't.
It works!! (Score:2, Funny)
=D
what could go wrong? (Score:4, Funny)
(http://webtrotter.com/blog)
What could possibly go wrong?
And now, rather than processing an image in 30 minutes, it takes 30 hours, yay!
Re:what could go wrong? (Score:4, Interesting)
"...What could possibly go wrong?..."
Well, memory leaks and array bounds probably won't go wrong
Looking at some benchmarks [idiom.com] for numerical processing using Java, it appears to stack up quite well agains C++ at least.
Yeah I know, what exactly is being measured, are the benchmarks relevant, are any benchmarks relevant, blah blah blah. Just pointing out that the parent's postulated x60 slowdown is a trifle pessimistic.
T&K
In related news... (Score:5, Funny)
A Java Version (Score:4, Funny)
"Warning: This nude of Britinet Spears has been photoshopped"
Pug
It'll only really get fun ... (Score:1)
Images used for testing (Score:1)
Moon landing (you knew it was coming!) (Score:1)
(http://www.mrnaz.com/)
$MATLAB/bin/mcc (Score:1, Informative)
A matter of time (Score:2, Interesting)
It uses the same algorithms in a slightly different way: instead of checking for the signs of forgery it finds the tell-tale signs of modification and then reverse-modifies them to "what-should-be-there" to make an "original" modified image.
The result will be an image that is ofcourse different only from mathematical standpoint - visual information will be the same. If that wouldn't be true I would love to have an application that "unblurs" or "unblackouts" the censored parts of some pictures.
Image will have after processing the properties of an "original" because the signs of "not-original" will be detected and "fixed". Way to go...
how effective would this be? (Score:2)
Government document redaction (Score:1)
When will this software be released (Score:1)
Republicans would never do that! (Score:3, Funny)
"The lighting is off by 40 degrees," Farid said. "We are insensitive to it, but computers detect it."
Well even if that one is fake, at least we know that the one of John Kerry french-kissing Joseph Stalin is real.
Dupe! (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday April 16 2003, @07:07AM)
Sigh.
How long 'til used on Oswald-with-gun photo? (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Friday November 02, @02:49PM)
The photo appears at the start of this wikipedia article on Lee Harvey Oswald.
(Of course the article is the subject to disputes of its own. B-) )
MMMM. My first test to beat this would be. (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.rslittle.com/)
If you actually read the article (Score:2, Funny)
Big_Foot_Prints.
surprised it's not mentioned: OJ covers (Score:1)
(http://www.saysomethingcryptic.com/)
I seem to recall some US guvmint propaganda as well where the picture showed a large group at a speech, denoting good turnout and agreement, yet when you looked closely you saw the same block of people three times. That's why they call it propaganda, right?
Re:please please please (Score:1)
Now what?
You may like to read this (Score:1, Informative)
http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/AABBS_Thomases_Mem
He ran a BBS that was legal in California. A prosectutor in Tennessee sent him child porn by post in order to use Federal law to have him arrested (for receiving child porn through the post). He was then arrested and taken to Tennessee, charged with selling porn to Tennessee residents and the child porn charge dropped.