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Google Says Chrome on macOS is Now Faster Than Safari (techcrunch.com) 44

As Google announced today, version 99 of Chrome on macOS manages to score 300 points on the Speedometer benchmark, which was originally developed by Apple's WebKit team. This, Google points out, is the fastest performance of any browser yet. TechCrunch: Speedometer 2.0 tests for responsiveness, which makes it a good proxy for user experience. It's been a while since competition in the browser market focused on speed, especially now that most vendors bet on the same Chromium codebase to build their browsers (with the exception of Mozilla's Firefox and Apple's WebKit-based Safari). But that doesn't mean that the various development teams stopped thinking about how to speed up the user experience. As with a lot of mature technologies, we're just not seeing major breakthroughs these days. That doesn't mean the rivalry between the different vendors has stopped, even as they are now getting together as part of Interop 2022 to better align their browsers with web standards.
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Google Says Chrome on macOS is Now Faster Than Safari

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  • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Monday March 07, 2022 @03:10PM (#62334251) Homepage Journal
    I'd much rather have a couple ms slower browsing experience than to feed Google any more info from using their Chrome browser.
    • Frankly, as much as I'm no fan of Safari, there's no getting around the fact that, on my M1, it's battery performance is way better than Chrome.

      • by shanen ( 462549 )

        It's a bogus story. Better by WHICH criteria? In this case, the increasingly evil google can manipulate the data, too. They wanted to report better performance, eh? Just cut out internal functions until Chrome is faster.

        At any future date, the google can start adding all of the spyware back into the Mac version. "Security upgrades" of course. I'm sure they've done lots of research on how slowly to do it so that most people won't notice.

      • You just let it gobble resources. Preemtively fetch all links on a page, cache everything in main memory, do speculative computation on every possible action like resizing a window, scrolling, run processes when in the background, just burn it to the ground . All of which is probably what most users want as long as they have unlimited data and battery and don't care about lags switching between apps. Plus some browsers can cheat at fetch compressed amp pages from the google mother ship

    • by yog ( 19073 ) *

      I'd much rather have a couple ms slower browsing experience than to feed Google any more info from using their Chrome browser.

      Does Brave inherit the Google speediness? If so, you can have an untracked Chrome-like experience.

    • I'm sure that those couple of ms slower are more than made up when you turn on the Safari option to block Google's cpu cycle use.

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      Firefox over Safari for me.

    • Unless Safari is cross-platform, including Android, Windows and Linux, it will be no competition to Chrome on IOS for me.
      I can whinge about Google, but it beats a walled garden any day.

  • But a lot of the Mac folks I do know simply use Safari because it's the default browser. It would probably take something pretty significant to get people to change and I'd assume this does not classify as significant.
    • by yog ( 19073 ) *
      As a Mac person (also a Linux and Windows person) I like using both a Chrome-alike browser (Brave) and Safari, because they are in separate spaces and easy to flip back and forth between contexts without needing to open an incognito. I usually keep a Safari window open to display some security cam footage, easier to alt-tab to than to search my Brave tabs.
      • Security cameras that can be viewed via a simple web browser?
        Brand/model, please?

      • by gtall ( 79522 )

        As a Mac person, I cannot stand Chrome or Safari, for stupid reasons. Firefox gives me that nice side panel to list all my bookmarks while the Chrome and Safari developers just cannot seem to understand why it is useful. That and Firefox gives me a search box instead of that abominable box for both URLs and search.

        • Safari has side panel book marks for a while now. CTRL COMMAND 1

          I'm with you on the smart bar thing. Terrible. I use Vivaldi as that has a separate search and address box
      • by Reemi ( 142518 )

        I'm using about:profiles for that in Firefox. Each profile has it's own theme, so I know immediately which customer is associated with which browser window.

        This allows me to have SSO access to different domains without the need for logging in all the time.

  • but what about users privacy?

  • I don't care about speed, all current browsers are already more than fast enough. I want a user friendly interface and above all, I want privacy. So, bye bye Google.
  • I used to use Chrome on my Mac. It got slower and slower, with more and more security restrictions/popups/overrides, to the point that it was unusable. I wiped it and went back to Safari.

    ...laura

  • Crashing? Hogging memory? Devouring storage space?

    • Faster at sending all your information directly to Google?

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I ask this every time and never get any evidence, but I'll try again.

        Do you have any evidence that Chrome sends "all your information" to Google?

        • No evidence, but since targeted ads are Google's primary income and they give Chrome away for free*, I can only assume such things.

          * if something is free it means you're the product.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            Well I've actually checked and they don't.

            Chrome exists because the web is their platform and before Google made a browser performance was terrible. If you think of it as an OS it was single threaded, insecure, slow and only Mozilla and Microsoft got to decide on new features. It sucked for mobile as well.

            • Chrome wouldn't exist if it weren't for Safari. So saying that Google made web browsers better is a bit of history re-writing IMHO.

              • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                Webkit was in a poor state when Google adopted it. Google also only used part of it, e.g. they wrote their own JS engine.

                If Firefox hadn't been such a mess they would probably have adopted that instead.

  • Perhaps the start of another Google Astroturfing campaign ?

    I just found word for word identical articles on this subject published under different names on

    https://www.laptopmag.com/news... [laptopmag.com]

    and

    https://wallpicnews.com/blog/n... [wallpicnews.com]

    I stopped using chrome on windows and macOS years ago as it turned into a bloated pig. I don't think Apple has any reason to worry about Google (who can't seem to follow through on any product launch in years). I think it is Google 'sweating bullets', and hence the astroturfi

  • My browser got 100. I ran it in Chrome. It looked the same. Wasn't any smoother. Flashed faster. Nothing to get me to change.
  • Its an interesting metric that Google are currently using to tout the performance of their browser. I own a Pixel mobile phone, made by Google, and I've recently had to remove Google Chrome from the device and replace it with Firefox. Why? Well the performance of Google Chrome on Google Pixel is so lousy that the entire phone becomes unresponsive when reading websites. What websites? Well, Slashdot.org - a website that is basically only text. I'm not sure how the Chrome browser can run so rubbish on Google'
  • Just checked: speedometer on Firefox yields Infinity!

  • I just ran the tests and Chrome is dead last.

    Results of Speedometer 2.0 on Mac mini M1:

    Safari - 259 +/- 11
    Edge 204 +/- 6.5
    Chrome 162 +/- 6.2

    Its been the slowest performing browser for me, and I'm seriously looking at Edge as my main browser

  • I have never liked the Chrome UI plus sending personal info back to Google and being a resource hog. Don't care what they claim. I flipflop between Safari and Firefox depending on websites.

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