Why Japan Leads the Mobile World 152
Phurge writes "It is no wonder that companies touting m-commerce as the next big web thing tell us Japan is the future blueprint. The Guardian takes a look at the cutting edge and everyday life of cell phone users in Japan. 'By offering the Japanese a multiplicity of services — and, very importantly, some very cool handsets to use them on — the operators have created what every western mobile service provider is dreaming of: a mobile lifestyle culture that keeps millions reaching for the mobile rather than the fixed internet ... What they are less keen on is video calling: in Japan, as in the UK, 90% say "no thanks, never". And as for using the mobile as a modem - to link to the internet - that's very expensive in Japan.'"
awesome (Score:5, Funny)
You mean we'll be able to buy used panties and tentacle hentai direct from our mobile phones soon, too?
There was another American (Score:2)
Why do they lead? Simple answer: Godzilla. (Score:5, Funny)
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Admittedly, defense research discovers nifty things like cloaks of invisibility and microwave pain beams... but I wonder if its the most fruitful line of inquiry.
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Japan is actually the fourth biggest spender in the world when it comes to defence. While they may be a long way behind the U.S. (frankly everyone is), there are a lot of developed countries that spend a fraction of what Japan does. Japan's military might be constitut
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I'm not sure what your basis for this is, but I think this is at least in part a fallacy. Japan was already the dominant power in the region before WWII, and had already demonstrated the capability to thrive without American dollars. They had the most advanced infrastructure of any country in Asia, a formidable military, and the modernisa
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Actually, even most of Japan's ancient heritage buildings are systematically torn down and reconstructed every twenty years or so. The reconstructions are faithful copies of what was there before, but the materials are usually mostly new. This process of tearing down and renewing is part of the Shinto religion.
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They hadn't yet figured out how to thrive without Oil, though.
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Completely looting a country dry can lead to that country becoming economically stronger afterwards. Counterintuitive at first, but true.
Japanese youth does not have their own room (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you want to sit at home surfing using the computer in the living room? No, of course not. That's why they buy small telephones and use them for surfing.
It's not comparable to anywhere else in the world, except maybe China.
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There are several heavily populated places in the country where people must live in this fashion.
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Re:Japanese youth does not have their own room (Score:5, Interesting)
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Based on my own ownership, I think this was the most popular phone ever (I had 6 of them in a year!). Either that or thin sliding covers with sprung trigger actions really aren't the best idea in the world
One of the most usable phones I've owned though.
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The total hardcore mobile users input that with two fingers. Really amazing to see that in action
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~Jarik
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Still, the main point is probably true. TV's may be large in Japan, but computers and game consoles must be small
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In japan though, it's common to have a 1 to 2 hour commute which is almost always done on public transportation. what does that mean? you have 2 to 4 hours a day where you can play games, check email, send messages, with NOTHING better to do! Trains
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Another difference (Score:2)
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It's important here that the youth of Japan grow up in very small houses, where even some have beds they have to pull out from the walls. It's all about small rooms and small things.
or it could be that japanese youth have active lifestyles. They only go on the internet to get information they need, like train scheds, maps, or where to go for bargains, auctions. most highschool kids here dont like staying at home, otherwise people will call you 'otaku'. There could be a connection between average room sizes and maybe penis size, but i doubt if its the cause.
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they make fun of us too (Score:5, Funny)
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In my experience... (Score:4, Informative)
In Japan you can see unattended store displays full of expensive products (even including flat screen TVs) out on the street, but it doesn't occur to anyone to take something. You can walk down the street in the middle of the night with the equivalent of thousands of dollars in your pocket in cash and not be worried about someone mugging you. (From personal experience) You can lose your passport in one of the busiest shopping areas of Tokyo (Shibuya), walk into the police station the next day or the day after, and get it back because someone would rather turn it in than steal your identity. Hell, you can lose your wallet with money in it, and the chances are you will get it back with all of the money (though you are expected to reward the finder something like 10%). You can accidentally leave your really nice, expensive camera on the train, and easily get it back later from one of the stations on that line.
So, people don't worry about someone wirelessly stealing their ID data and stuff from their phones because generally people aren't interested in taking advantage of each other. They are interested in living a fun, good life, not in ruining the lives of others.
Yes, there are exceptions. A big one in recent years was the "Ore Ore" scam where young men would call random old people saying "It's me! It's me" and their target would say, "What? Is that you Takeshi?". The scammer, now armed with a name, would reply, "Yeah, it's me, Takeshi. I'm in trouble, grandma. I need you to send me money." And then they would get money. This scam worked because people are naïve and (sadly) old people sometimes not well taken care of by their families.
But, generally speaking, this kind of crime is not a big concern in Japan. I hope it never becomes one, because the low crime rate is one of the things I truly loved while living there.
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And it's pretty much a load of bullshit. Japanese phones are nothing like that.
Give the people what they want... (Score:4, Insightful)
Give the people barely any service for their money, and they will use it only as much as they entirely have to and look for alternatives.
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> it only as much as they entirely have to and look for alternatives.
Thus the American corporate approach: do your damnedest to make sure there are no alternatives.
Re:Give the people what they want... (Score:4, Insightful)
If you give people what they want, they will buy it because they want to have it. They will love it and they will start finding ways to use it in various ways, improving it and giving you ideas for the next version, because you've seen what people want to do with it, and many cannot do it themselves, so they will buy your next version that can do that. That's how it has been for years before the 90s, and it worked like a dream. People also simply and blindly went into the store and bought your gear, knowing that it will do what they want it to do.
Today it's very different, just like you describe. There is no alternative, so people have to buy what's offered. They don't really want that thing, but they have no choice, so they will buy it. Some will simply refuse to buy it, because it simply isn't what they want. They will not love it. They will use it like they use a tool, for the purpose intended and nothing else. They couldn't anyway, either it's so locked down that they simply cannot use it for anything else, or it is strictly forbidden by some kind of law to use it for anything but what the manufacturer wants you to.
In other words, today's products are inferior to what we had in the past. It's actually a shame.
Biometric interfaces (Score:4, Interesting)
Some phones also come with swipe fingerprint sensors; can anyone provide technical details of these sensors? Do they comply with BioAPI or HA-API? Is there a way to interact with them via a computer?
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All About QR Codes (Two-Dimensional Barcodes) (Score:2)
Why no videophones? (Score:2)
Why? I for one think it would be pretty neat to have a mobile videophone, and it sure seems like it's within reach of today's technology. Just put another cheap lens on the same side of the phone that has the display. The only major thing I can see that will halt widespread adoption is the outrageous prices the cellular companies will want to charge for it.
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I just don't like the idea of using it. I don't like speaking on the phone much, video is a step too far.
Both of these cultures are massively into text messages, what does that tell you? That they prefer offline, impersonal communication unless they are actually face to face.
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Because their own faces are embarrassing! (Score:2)
Techno Fashion (Score:4, Interesting)
As an Asian (who lives in Canada), I know why Asia tends to be superior in terms of mobile technology (or really, ANY consumer technology). It's because they have a techno-centric fashion culture.
Here, the iPhone *just* hit us as the first *true* "fashion phone". You could argue the RAZR was in before that, but even that was fairly recent. In Asia they've had these things for years. Phones that rival jewelery in glitziness and price. Not to mention a society that values fashion and appearance above all else - and thus the willingness to pay a lot, and pay often, for new fashionable phones.
If Americans had the same attitude towards their phones as we do for our wardrobes, we'd be pretty durned advanced too. :P
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One word - kaizen (Score:2)
Everyone in Japan has a cellphone, including children. That means the market is saturated except that it isn't. The Japanese are masters at kaizen engineering - making a series of small steady improvements on something until it is far superior to anything else. As for cellphones, there is constant pressure to upgrade your phone every ten months or so. This is encouraged by practically giving the
Re:Techno Fashion == who needs it? (Score:2)
I agree that's a far bigger force there than here.
I looked at the site [boohooforyou.com] another poster linked to, and found a list of 20 features of Japanese phones. A few of them seem pretty neat. For example,
#16 privacy screens and
#20 waterproof
seem like worthwhile additions to a phone. Then there are a few more which might be nice, though probably not on a phone:
#17 Scan barcodes
#18 Mobile GPS navigation (because who needs GPS for stationary navigation,
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We're also really, really, really fat [wellingtongrey.net].
So, no. Americans don't tend to give a damn about what other people think of them.
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Wayyyy too much credit -- as always, there are many exceptions, but for the most part America is one of the worst-dressed first-world countries I've experienced. I guess it's a combination of conservatism, obsession with low price over all else, a generally kind of laid-back individualistic culture, and a sort of "anti-urbanism" (the well dressed people you d
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from the always-on-the-move dept.
So while I can use my mobile device to get some news and for navigation using special mobile ready apps like Google Mobile Maps, until I can access the sites that I find most relevant I'm still tied to a PC.
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Not kidding. It displays normally if I stop the loading before the page loads completely. Slashdot gives a "page is too large to display" error (with or without pictures) but it displays everything except the bottom half of the left sidebar (it's not a cache limit). Most pages load without a problem however. The only other annoyance is that some forums come out with 2 pages worth of horizontal scrolling.
But I guess none of that will matter for long because my prov
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http://www.skweezer.net/s.aspx/-/slashdot~org/index~pl?simpledesign=1&lowbandwidth=1 [skweezer.net]
It's what I use for reading slashdot from my cellphone.
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Population density is the big thing in their favor (Score:1, Informative)
Never Say Never Again (Score:1)
population density (Score:1)
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Are you sure it is density? (Score:2)
Video calling (Score:2, Interesting)
If you think ringtones of popular songs sell well, or custom voices to make your GPS sound like Mr. T, imagine how well the "Jessic Alba" and "Brad Pitt" video chat disguises would sell.
Cost (Score:5, Informative)
The reason the mobile internet has not taken off in the UK is very simple: bandwidth cost.
We have the same flashy gadget laden phones that the japanese do, and, I believe, with not too much of a lag anymore. However after the mobile companies paid £4-5bn each for 3G frequencies they needed to get their money back and they decided to get it through bandwidth charges. Until very recently a typical charge per Mb was between £5-£10 (US$10-$20).
Very recently (like in the last 8 weeks) they have begun to fall, but I can't imagine why it didn't take off before, can you?
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T mobile are the only uk mobile operator charging a flat fee even now and they certainly weren't doing it 12 months ago when I got my phone.
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Either you are trolling or you really don't know what you are talking about. The Japanese have always been way ahead in terms of gadgets and most electronic technologies and it's nothing to do with putting up with crap before everyone else.
I have a friend who has lived in Japan for 10 years and he was able to picture message and make video calls way before we had it over here (UK) and even now the quality of his phone in terms of photo and video messaging is still ahead of anything we get over here.
No to mobile video calling (Score:2, Insightful)
Companies are not interested... (Score:2, Insightful)
Small country (Score:2, Insightful)
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Face it, the USA has dropped the ball on the whole cellular thing. Australia has more advanced cellular networks than the USA, despite an even lower population density.
Look at what was available in May or March 2004 (Score:2)
I bought one for one YEN (one PENNY) in Dec 04, the price being so low because the Yodabashi salesman said "It's already obsolete". Early adopters only 5 or 8 months earlier might have paid US$250 to $350.
Now, if only Samsung would remodel the A900M to be similar to the now-retired V402SH made by Sharp....
But, I think South Korea's mobile and data electronics prowess should be examined and compared to Japan, as well as Europe. Better cells are definite
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Incidentally, the Japanese also have better wired internet access. The vast majority can get fiber to the home at a reasonable price.
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Poor quality reporting from the Gruaniad (Score:2)
That photo is not of One Seg TV watchers, as the phones are about two year old models and they do not have TV aerials. Next "Yasuko San" - that should be "Yasuko san" most likely; San is not her surname!
Anyway, I'm just bitter that they seem to have nicked all their stats from my website [whatjapanthinks.com] without any credit!
Why of course! (Score:2)
1. Information wants to be free
2. Facts, such as survey results, cannot be copyrighted
3. I credit all my sources
4. The information I translate is all from public press release-like sources
5. Much of the information is not available anywhere else in English for free
6. I've only had one complaint from any of the companies involved, but that was to do with the style of one translation, not the appropriation
Commuting + Small Houses = Greater Mobile Usage (Score:1)
not only mobile (Score:1, Interesting)
Do you believe that every 6 months you will see CMs for new washer, new refridge, new TV, etc. While it's clear that they already have the best products for anything, they are still doing this.
They are freak and obsessed to keep introducing new products. This makes them to do nothing but "kaizen".
And more importantly, since you don't have any other place to spend your money in Japan, you will end up buying new products every some months.
An opinio
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Mobile modems are NOT expensive in Japan (Score:1)
> And as for using the mobile as a modem - to link to the internet - that's very expensive in Japan
Actually that's not true at all. You can get flat rate mobile data (with no device restrictions) on a 3.5G cellular network for around US $45 a month. And we're not talking some kind of crappy EDGE service, this is for >1.5MBps in the real world (3.6MBps down theoretical) with latency low enough to use VOIP apps. It's just that the Big Three mobile carriers aren't that interested in supporting hea
Myths, myths, and more myths... (Score:4, Informative)
Every now and then the same myths about the Japanese mobile market come up. Here's what we've seen on Slashdot today:
I could go on, but when it comes to Japan, be careful whose information you trust. Lots of people who claim to know about Japan don't speak even speak the language, which continues to contribute to a lot of misinformation.
Myths aside, I think the real reasons Japan is so far ahead have a little bit to do with culture and language, a little more to do with urban density causing carriers to push low-bandwith services (i.e., text messaging) coupled with public transport and portability factors, and a lot more to do with insanely poor telecom regulation in other areas of the world (here's looking at you, Canada).
There are no really good reasons why we can't have the same quality of mobile services as Japan -- if only we demanded it (in large masses) from our governments, telecom carriers, and handset manufacturers. Thankfully, in the wake of iPhone and the unlocking debate it started, we might see some positive change. When we're on par with Japan, I'm going to laugh at all the pundits who claimed there was something unique about Japanese people, society, or culture that makes them so mobile-centric.
The advice of Dudley Moore (Score:2)
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Video calling is already being pushed by mobile phone operators (as opposed to landline operators) in the UK, primarily because mobiles tend to come with cameras built in, and they can take advantage of 3G services. With this in mind, there are a few problems with the concept of video calling that I can think of off the top of my head.
The first is that you have to hold the unit out in front of you, and point it vaguely in the direction of your face. This means that the speaker has to be much louder, and
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Re:The UK only says "no never" (Score:4, Insightful)
That is it in a nutshell.
America could have the same, except no one will sign up,
because they know from their basic cell phone experience
that they will be taken for a ride. People are not fooled
for long.