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Slashback: Moon Footage, KillerNic, ZFS Leopard 207

Slashback tonight brings some clarifications and updates to previous Slashdot stories including: some direct answers to Slashdot questions on the KillerNIC, recap in stolen laptop identity theft problems, a victory for one PayPal user, missing moon footage surfaces, Dell laptops unwelcome on Quantas flights, and more ZFS news from the Leopard front Read on for details.

Direct answers to Slashdot KillerNIC questions. Emptynest writes "A bit over a week ago, Slashdot linked a story on and it was filled with a bunch of 'hard questions from the Slashdot Community" regarding Bigfoot Network's pending 'killer' Network card that promises to reduce in-game lag. It looks as if Bigfoot isn't backing down and has hand-picked several of the questions from the Slashdot Community and answered them in a new article."

Recap of stolen laptop identity theft. Kn10 writes to tell us Technibble has a brief recap of some of the major laptop thefts resulting in personal information being leaked from major organizations. From the article: "According to the FBI, laptop theft is the second most common computer crime and less than 2 percent of those stolen laptops are ever recovered. Four in five (81%) of US firms have had at least one laptop stolen containing sensitive information according to a recent study."

A victory for on PayPal user. Not-So-Anonymous Coward writes "According to his site, 'silic0nsilence', who was featured in the Summer 2006 issue of 2600, has won his long battle with PayPal Fraud. On August 15th, 2006 in Small Claims court, he was awarded $671.12 after almost a year-long war with PayPal and a user. He also successfully won a small claims suit against PayPal to commence in his case with the user."

Missing moon footage surfaces. denis-The-menace writes "Film producer and rock video director Peter Clifton was sitting watching television when he saw NASA was searching for original Apollo 11 footage. He had forgotten that in 1979 he ordered footage from The Smithsonian for use in The Dark Side of The Moon demo film. He had all but forgotten a pristine 16-millimeter film of the moon landing was part of his vast personal film catalogue"

Dell laptops unwelcome on Quatas flights. Thomas Henden writes "The Australian airline company Quantas, according to the Sydney Morning Herald, banned the in-flight use of Dell laptops on battery power. The security personnel even went so far as taping over the contacts in the batteries according to an agreement between Dell and Qantas. However the security is now somewhat relaxed — all you need to do now, is to get in touch with the personal aboard, and tell you want to use your Dell laptop, and then you will be 'advised individually.'"

More ZFS new from the Leopard front. nezmar writes "From the AppleInsider forum comes an interesting discovery about Sun's ZFS and Apple. A user who has the Leopard developer preview searched the system with Spotlight and found a mention of ZFS. He says: 'There is no file system bundle for it, nor is there a mount utility or any other one (no fsck, now newfs, etc.). There is, however, a changed vnode.h.' Looks like the story back in May might have some truth after all."

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Slashback: Moon Footage, KillerNic, ZFS Leopard

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  • PayPal article (Score:5, Informative)

    by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:02PM (#15966572) Homepage Journal
    You have to go to here [] and click on the link. Otherwise you get a WMD parody.
    • Re:PayPal article (Score:4, Informative)

      by Geoffreyerffoeg ( 729040 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:35PM (#15966708)
      Or you can just go here []. There's an extra / at the end of the posted URL.

      And the WMD thing is from an old meme [].
  • by User 956 ( 568564 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:04PM (#15966583) Homepage
    So from their response, It's clear that not only does their marketing department design and develop their products, but they also perform most traditional functions, such as put together fluff non-answers for web "interviews".
    • by 222 ( 551054 )
      Uhh, TCP Offload Engines are actually a real feature in server NICS, and quite worthwhile imho.
      While you may no see the need for such a product in a PC gaming system, to dismiss the technology described as "fluff" is innacurrate at best.
      • by ivan256 ( 17499 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @11:39PM (#15967398)

        Describing the benefits of a TCP offload engine as the answer to a question about how they can claim reduced UDP latency is fluff. It's like the magician getting you to look at his assistant's chest while he moves a hidden card to the top of the deck.

        Besides, TCP offload is a technology to increase throughput, not to reduce latency.

        We are agreed that TCP is not UDP, right?
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by 0xygen ( 595606 )

          You will actually find that TOE frequently refers to TCP/IP Offload Engine, which includes the IP packet checksum. If this is quick enough, it would indeed also improve the latency, as less (slower) code has to be run in the OS IP stack (although I certainly agree with you that this would most likely not be noticable in a gaming environment).

          TCP is indeed not UDP, however the IP checksum falls under TCP/IP.

    • by snowgirl ( 978879 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @02:38AM (#15967938) Journal
      While worms/viruses/etc are always a concern, Killer uses Linux built-in permission and security systems to help protect against this. In addition, users have complete control to choose which FNApps run on their card.

      Linux is not immune to worms, it all depends on the apps that are running in the background. If *their* code is crappy, then it can break down the Linux permissions, and voila, worm. And while users may have complete control to choose which FNApps run on their card... um... they already have that option on real PCs, yet things get run without them knowing. Spyware and Adware are things that work around issues such as "you choose what to run".

      This is also neglecting the idea of a root kit, such that an app could hide itself from the user.

      This can yield multi-millisecond benefits, even on the fastest of today's computers.

      Ok, now granted this is a Mac to a Linux box, but:

      23 packets transmitted, 23 packets received, 0% packet loss
      round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.169/0.230/0.416/0.074 ms

      This is between two computers on a gigabit network through a switch. Now, please, explain to me how I'm supposed to be expecting these multi-millisecond benefits from bypassing the UDP stack? I mean, if he seriously would like to tax me on this, I suppose I could write a UDP ping program and prove that my network gets that sort of a response regularly even over UDP.

      And as the perfect finale, their question number 1 was from me:

      1) Seriously, who else but a marketing department would think that it's a good idea to trademark a name describing everything "new" that your product does? And the page is so full of TLAs (three letter acronyms) that you need a glossary to read it.

      Bigfoot: Virtually all technology companies trademark their features, including Intel, AMD, nVidia, Razer, and us! But we understand you want to understand the technology, so check out Killer's new product page at our website. You will find that it is much more detail driven in terms of how the technology works. Also, you'll find plenty of meat in our FAQ here.

      I'd like to point out that my issue was that they're trademarking EVERYTHING, not just NetBurst, or SSE, or AltiVec, etc, or any other of the individual names that companies have thrown out to describe their new products. But when I look at an ad for a product and there literally is nothing describing the card or product that doesn't have a little (tm) next to it, I get suspicious.

      When you have to go to such great lengths to make something sound so totally rad, that's usually the biggest indication that something is wrong with it.

      As a personal rule of thumb: the slimier the salesman, the more seriously you need to consider what he's trying to offer you.

      If they feel that they have to trademark a word "MaxFPS(tm)" that provides absolutely no information about what it does, rather than just say "Network Process Offloading" be warry.

      Oh, and then the creativity of all their new trademarks. I mean, they're just words squished together. It's not like you're getting a cool name like "NetBurst" or "AltiVec" or something new, no, you get "PingThrottle", and "GameFirst", or "UltimatePing". Who did they have working as the creative director on these names? Nim Chimpsky? They are so uninteresting, and bland, that it just smacks of "We didn't want to even try to be cool, because we didn't care."

      Personally, I for one welcome our new NetworkOverlords(tm), with their NiftyTrademarks(tm), with their SuperCreativity(tm).

      Tell you what Bigfoot, send me a KillerNIC to review, and we'll start talking about if any of your lame lame lame marketing is worth anything at all. Until then, I'll slam it anytime I can. With my patent pending HyperDis(tm) technology.
    • by Jekler ( 626699 )
      After reading their responses, even if I'm not completely satisfied with their pitch, I'm willing to consider the possibility that they have a valid product. I'll need to see independent benchmarks. If there is a network card that's going to improve my gaming experience, even if it costs $280, I'd buy it. Heck, I'd buy anything to improve my gaming experience, but I need solid evidence first.
  • I can't be the only who thinks of goatse when I see the bigfoots network logo []...
  • WTF (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Phantom100 ( 216058 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:13PM (#15966621)
    The airline said that although passengers would be allowed to carry their Dells either as checked or cabin baggage, they could only use them on battery power or through the aircraft power supply available in some first and business class cabins once they have first removed the batteries from the unit.
    How does someone run on battery power with the battery removed?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      The airline said that although passengers would be allowed to carry their Dells either as checked or cabin baggage, they could only use them on battery power or through the aircraft power supply available in some first and business class cabins once they have first removed the batteries from the unit.

      You can use the battery, or use the cord, but you can't use both.

    • Re:WTF (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Pinky3 ( 22411 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:55PM (#15966796) Homepage
      The word you didn't read was OR.

      You may use it with a battery in it. OR you may use it with a power cord and no battery in it.

      You may not use it with a power cord and a battery in it, i.e. no charging.
      • The word you didn't read was OR.

        My understanding is that in common English, "or" is the inclusive variety. That's why the logical operation for inclusive OR isn't called something like "IOR."

        If they mean XOR, they should append "but not both" or clarify it in some equivalent way.
        • by hob42 ( 41735 )
          Or prepend "either" like they did earlier in the sentance, "either as checked or cabin baggage..."
    • by Svartalf ( 2997 )
      External Battery supply such as what's provided by Valence- a Saphion battery pack.
  • by khasim ( 1285 ) <> on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:13PM (#15966623)
    In TCP/IP world, CPU utilization has been known to be dramatically reduced by offload technologies, but the biggest benefits of Killer come from its unique 'hardware network stack'. This literally bypasses the Windows network stack and uses hardware interrupts to get data directly to the game, skipping tons of queuing, and 'software interrupts' that are common with the operating system's network stack.
    Yes, that is your claim.

    But the "network stack" is a bit more complex than you seem to be implying. I'm sure that most people here are familiar with the old OSI model:

    Data Link

    Now, explain how those "hardware interrupts" substitute for the processing that needs to happen.

    I'm not saying that the Windows TCP/IP stack could not stand some optimization. I'm sure that it could.

    I just don't see how claiming "hardware interrupts" are the solution is an answer if you don't explain how those "hardware interrupts" handle the processing and where/when they are called.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I think all they've done is replace a general purpose PC network stack with a dedicated one on the NIC. They get to optimize the stack, they get to avoid general OS interruptions, they avoid PCI latency, but not much else. Good for a millisecond or two, maybe.
      • by FSWKU ( 551325 )

        Good for a millisecond or two, maybe.

        Which is good enough to have plenty of "hardcore gamers" lining up to buy this snake-oil. You know the type. The ones that shell out several thousands of dollars on a high end machine, spend hours hand-picking watercooling components to get another 5 MHz out of their overpriced CPU, fork over $100+ for a 36gb HDD because it's 10,000rpm... all in an effort to shave a quarter of a second off their load times and gain a few FPS in what usually ends up being Quake 3 or CS.

      • by Svartalf ( 2997 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @11:02PM (#15967276) Homepage
        You don't avoid PCI latency- you STILL have to cross the bus.
        You don't avoid hardware interrupts- HOW do you let the OS know that you've sent the data or got it?
        Optimizing the stack- optimizing WHAT? It's allegedly speeding up UDP traffic; there's little to "optimize" there.

        I'd buy TCP Offload maybe needing to be done- for 10 Gigabit Ethernet hardware. I should know;
        I work with that sort of hardware for a client. UDP's not needing diddly at any lower speeds than that-
        the offloads that make sense and work are scatter-gather DMA of the packet instead of needing an assembly
        buffer and checksum calculation. Most modern cards worth their salt do this already.

        They might be offering something- I won't call it as totally bogus until I see proof either way. But the
        problem REALLY is that the thing bypasses ALL of the system security. In this case, they're
        allegedly using Linux to provide the core of the network stack, so it's less problematic than it could be
        but what kinds of exploits are present in the interface between the Killer and the Windows OS.
    • by Trogre ( 513942 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:52PM (#15966779) Homepage
      You forgot the top layer in the OSI stack:

      8: Operator

      So many network problems I've had to troubleshoot have been tracked to layer 8.

      Unfortunately it's also the hardest layer to debug.

      • by NateTech ( 50881 )
        8. Religion
        9. Politics

        No system runs without them.

        e.g. "We're an all Cisco shop..."
      • by hayden ( 9724 )
        The top two layers of the OSI stack are:

        9: Political
        8: Financial

      • Unfortunately it's also the hardest layer to debug.

        Not at all. Like any other flaky component, you swap it out with a known-good one for testing, and if you determine the original was defective, you dispose of it.

        Note to self: Buy more heavy-duty trash bags.
    • by batkiwi ( 137781 )
      It's a joke. You've all been trolled.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by GreyKnight ( 545843 )

      Now, explain how those "hardware interrupts" substitute for the processing that needs to happen.

      The problem here, is that they aren't actually attempting to answer the questions, just produce the appearance of answering the questions, for the benefit of their target demographic (who likely don't understand either side of the exchange).

      They also managed to get another link posted from slashdot in the process. *Cough*.

      From the "answers":

      This can yield multi-millisecond benefits, even on the fastest o

    • So, how many games use TCP??? How exactly is this going to improve performance??
      I've got an nForce4 motherboard with on board NIC, it comes with drivers for windows that offload some of the processing. I assume there is a higher level interface in the driver model that you can replace.

      However it's only with a recent driver revision that I've been able to ftp files without corruption. Any TCP based protocol that didn't have another layer of checksum's would result in errors.

    • Actually, TCP/IP predates OSI by a fair margin. It only has five layers if I recall correctly.

      Could this just be low level packet prioritization? Maybe utilizing some tweaked out optimizations for checksum offloading or perhaps some clever optimization of TCP windows?

      Still, sounds like snake oil to me (just like some video card specs).
  • by A nonymous Coward ( 7548 ) * on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:16PM (#15966630)
    Near as I can tell, his victory is a small claims court win against the buyer who claimed a fraudulent chargeback. Not only is paypal not a direct part of that victory, it's a pretty small victory, since he still has to collect payment, and that is much harder than merely showing up in small claims court with your opponent missing. He still intends to pay off NCO and paypal, so they won't lose much at all from his "victory".
    • he still has to collect payment
      Now that he has a default judgement, he would can sick a collection agency (N.C.O. Financial Systems?) on the wanker who started this whole mess.

      Something to note: He didn't actually tell us the terms of his settlement with PayPal, so who knows... maybe PayPal threw some money his way to avoid being dragged into a lawsuit.
    • What I didn't understand was apparently the collection company accepted the package he sent them explaining the situation, and closed the demand to set the dogs on him.

      AFAICT, PayPal's only course of action after that is to take him to court - surely he could just sit back and say "Fine. Take me to court"?
  • by wonk ( 169706 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:24PM (#15966663) Homepage
    I took a Qantas flight yesterday and can confirm they are not allowing Dell computers to be used on their planes. They didn't actually ask people indidivually if they had a Dell, but part of the pre-takeoff announcement was "Dell laptop computers must not be used at any time on this aircraft".
  • ZFS Port (Score:3, Insightful)

    by joe_bruin ( 266648 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:25PM (#15966667) Homepage Journal
    ZFS is an amazing file system. However, despite both Solaris and OSX having POSIX semantics and BSD heritage, porting ZFS to OSX is not a simple matter as, for example, porting UFS or EXT2 would be*. ZFS consumes the block driver, the volume manager, and the RAID layer into one giant entity. It further adds things like FS snapshots, compression, and dynamically resizable partitions that OSX may not be prepared to handle. If this is happening, it will take time. Lots of time. But hopefully, they'll do it. ZFS addresses shortcomings present in most (not-so-)modern file systems.

    * example only, I imagine these exist already.
    • "ZFS consumes the block driver, the volume manager, and the RAID layer into one giant entity."

      It does all three better than what Apple currently has. I agree about the complexity, but coming up with a good filesystem isn't as easy as it used to be.
    • by VValdo ( 10446 )
      porting ZFS to OSX is not a simple matter as, for example, porting UFS or EXT2 would be*

      Actually, early released versions of OS X (10.0 for sure) ran on [] either HFS+ *or* UFS. UFS wasn't used so much and I think had some issues (case sensitivity & classic OS 9 support), and I believe at some point (10.2?) UFS-based installation was dropped.

    • ZFS on FreeBSD (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      porting ZFS to OSX is not a simple matter as, for example, porting UFS or EXT2 would be

      The start of a port to FreeBSD has been started, and after ten days there has been demonstratable progress:

      I can already mount ZFS-created file systems (with 'zfs create'
      comman), create files/directories, change permissions/owner/etc., list
      directories content, and perform few other minor operation. 2006-August/004609.html []

      Of course you're generally correct: ZFS goes into '

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by PygmySurfer ( 442860 )
      Dtrace has already been integrated into Leopard, which I thought was pretty impressive. I imagine its not as complex as ZFS, but, I still think its quite the accomplishment.

      That said, I hope ZFS makes it to Leopard. And FreeBSD.
    • Warning: Flat-Out Conjecture:

      From this comment []:

      I would love for the FS to do snapshot saves with incrementals and checkpoints and rollback, instead of having each application do it. This provides unlimited undos potential with actual stored versions... a true 'history' of the file, available for review.

      Which had me thinking (and you folks probably know more about this than I do) — could ZFS power elements of Time Machine []? I mean, probably for 10.6 (Ocelot?), but still... If Time Machine was not onl

      • If Time Machine was not only backup software but a way for the OS to automatically handle version control, holy crap.

        You don't need ZFS for that--any file system will do.

        Furthermore, lots of operating systems have these capabilities already, but they are not popular and are generally not enabled. It may be that it's the right thing for Apple's consumer OS to do, but in most other settings, universal version control and automatic restore simply aren't desirable features.
    • ZFS is putting lots of functionality into one big package, and doing that is generally bad software design. In the case of Linux, there are separate packages for partition management, volume management, RAID, core file system, and high-level file system functionality like encryption, versioning, and distribution, that users can mix and match as needed. Furthermore, that functionality isn't going to become redundant, at least for Apple: no matter how much they might like the world to move to ZFS, they'll s
      • by jimicus ( 737525 )
        Granted, but a lot of that is down to how the software is architected.

        IBM, for example, have had all RAID, block-level and partitioning integrated into their LVM under AIX for years. IIRC, you can't have any disk which isn't ultimately handled by the AIX LVM system in some way - even the root "partition" is held as a logical volume.
        • IIRC, you can't have any disk which isn't ultimately handled by the AIX LVM system in some way - even the root "partition" is held as a logical volume.

          I believe you could; LVM just took physical devices and presented another set of virtual block devices. It was up to you if you wanted to make your file systems on the physical device or the logical device.

          The fact that LVM was a module that stayed within the standard UNIX framework of devices, rather than an all-encompassing replacement of everything, meant
    • by zdzichu ( 100333 )
      It took 10 days [] for FreeBSD hacker to port ZFS to FBSD. The result is available here [].
  • Good idea, except your new network stack interface has to be a driver. So this won't help any Linux or Mac gaming....oh. Never mind then.

    (Yes, this was posted with Safari. I don't have as much as Solitaire on here.)
  • DRM (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    NASA can now join the legion of other corps/organisations that have had their content rescued solely because an untrusted third party just happened to have a non DRM-locked copy lying around (The BBC is famous for this). It would be very interesting to see what sort of licencing regime Peter Clifton will require in order to return the footage NASA. Alternatively this could be a case of DRM 'do as I say not do as I do' and NASA will just be given the unencumbered media to copy and distribute.

    As an aside - is
    • NASA and copyright. (Score:4, Informative)

      by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @10:00PM (#15967067) Journal
      NASA imagery is normally copyright-free, as government documents produced at government expense.

      Some matierials produced by NASA may have copyrights. (For instance: movies with copyrighted music in the background which was licensed for NASA's use and needs an additional license if it gets cloned elsewhere).

      More a NASA web site [].
      • movies with copyrighted music in the background which was licensed for NASA's use and needs an additional license if it gets cloned elsewhere

        I never did like that Guns 'n Roses soundtrack NASA put in the moon landing footage... Seemed out of place somehow.
    • an untrusted third party

      Tell me how a movie producer who licenses/purchases the use of stock footage from the Smithsonian becomes an "untrusted third party."

    • While it is true that DRM makes life difficult... I don't think it is critical when you are talking about preserving old and historically significant media. Most people agree that it is very difficult or impossible to make DRM that isn't easily cracked. The difficult thing is that cracking DRM, or distributing the method of cracking DRM, is a crime and you can end up in prison.

      The real problem isn't the DRM (which is simply an annoyance), but the special legal status that DRM is given. If DRM encourages an
  • by Rob T Firefly ( 844560 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:44PM (#15966745) Homepage Journal
    Film producer and rock video director Peter Clifton was sitting watching television when he saw NASA was searching for original Apollo 11 footage. He had forgotten that in 1979 he ordered footage from The Smithsonian for use in The Dark Side of The Moon demo film.
    Strangely enough, it turns out that the moon landing footage syncs up perfectly with "The Wizard of Oz."
  • I love how the Bigfoot thing is billed as "answering the tough questions," yet it's simply filled with more nonsense marketing bullshit. In one answer they talk about completely bypassing the Windows network stack, yet in another answer they say they don't offload the full stack. Which is it?
  • No so fast (Score:3, Informative)

    by plutonium83 ( 818340 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:50PM (#15966767)
    From what I remember, wasn't an entire COLLECTION of apollo footage missing? I'm glad they found at least one reel, but what about the others?
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by unity ( 1740 )
      Not so fast? If you had taken the time to RTFA and not posted so fast perhaps you would have come across this quote:

      "It is hoped documentation associated with Mr Clifton's reel will help direct researchers to the warehouse or museum where the missing tapes are stored - if they still exist."
    • This was not a loaner or misplaced, Clifton paid for the movie reel. Since they couldn't find the footage, Clifton came forward with his own personal copy. Now they need to find other film makeres that may have purchased reels of Apollo footage to make up the rest :). They actually hope that the documentation he received with his purchase will show where he got it from and possibly lead to the original footage. It seems to me that over the years, they've forgotten which facility they stored the footage
  • by Monoman ( 8745 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @08:55PM (#15966795) Homepage
    So I read some of the KillerNIC stuff because it was news to me. I wound up on px [] and found it hilarious. Let's see some of their first two tips for reducing lag.


    Yeah I'm gonna get right on that.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Tim Browse ( 9263 )

      I also liked their amazingly intuitive suggestion that was doubtless the fruit of much in-depth research:


      No kidding, professor!

    • Nice find, but you skipped the best ones... Let's see:

      Plug the internet straight into your computer,

      You mean those AOL disks? They're the internet, right?

      More latency could potentially mean more Lag.


      Not here, I only have the kind of latency that doesn't affect lag. You know, "Good Latency(tm)".

  • It stands for 'Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services' so there is no 'u' after the 'Q'
  • by craXORjack ( 726120 ) on Wednesday August 23, 2006 @09:24PM (#15966927)

    CLIFTON: Oh, I'm glad you're here, so we can get this all straightened out. Would you like a cup of tea?

    BOOKMAN: You got any orange drink?

    CLIFTON: Orange drink?

    BOOKMAN: Yeah. Orange drink.

    CLIFTON: No, I don't drink orange drink.

    BOOKMAN: Yeah, you don't drink orange drink? How about instant orange drink?

    CLIFTON: No, I don't...

    BOOKMAN: You don't have any instant Tang?

    CLIFTON: Well, I don't normally--

    BOOKMAN: Who doesn't have instant Tang?

    CLIFTON: I don't.

    BOOKMAN: You buy a jar of Tang, you put it in the cupboard, you forget about it. Then later on when you need it, it's there. It lasts forever. It's freeze-dried. Freeze-dried orange drink.

    CLIFTON: Really? I'll have to remember that.

    BOOKMAN: You took the moon landing movie out in 1979.

    CLIFTON: Yes, and I returned it in 1979.

    BOOKMAN: Yeah, '79. That was my first year on the job. Bad year for libraries. Bad year for America. Hippies burning library cards, the Betamax decision letting everybody steal movies. I don't judge a man by the length of his hair or the kind of music he listens to. Rock was never my bag. But you put on a pair of shoes when you walk into the NASA Film Library, fella.

    CLIFTON: Look, Mr. Bookman. I--I returned that movie. I remember it very specifically.

    BOOKMAN: You're a Rock cinematographer, you entertain people, make them have fun.

    CLIFTON: I try.

    BOOKMAN: You think this is all big fun, don't you?

    CLIFTON: No, I don't.

    BOOKMAN: I saw your name in the credits once; I remembered your name--from my list. I looked it up. Sure enough, it checked out. You think because you're a celebrity that somehow the law doesn't apply to you, that you're above the law?

    CLIFTON: Certainly not.

    BOOKMAN: Well, let me tell you something, music fun boy. Y'know that little stamp, the one that says "NASA Film Library"? Well that may not mean anything to you, but that means a lot to me. One whole hell of a lot. Sure, go ahead, laugh if you want to. I've seen your type before: Flashy, making the scene, flaunting convention. Yeah, I know what you're thinking. What's this guy making such a big stink about old moon movies for? Well, let me give you a hint, junior. Maybe we can live without libraries, people like you and me. Maybe. Sure, we're too old to change the world, but what about that kid renting a movie, right now, in a branch at the local library and finding X rated porn taped over the middle of The Dark Crystal and Finding Nemo? Doesn't HE deserve better? Look. If you think this is about overdue fines and missing movies, you'd better think again. This is about that kid's right to borrow a movie without getting his mind warped! Or: maybe that turns you on, Clifton; maybe that's how y'get your kicks. You and your good-time buddies. Well I got a flash for ya, joy-boy: Party time is over. Y'got seven days, Clifton. That is one week!

  • Was all Apollo footage lost or just the Apollo 11 footage? If high quality footage exists of the other moon landings, can someone point me to it?
  • First:

    Since I transferred the funds to my bank account, my PayPal account was empty,


    On March 23, 2006 I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau against PayPal. I told them I was down $600 and that PayPal made no effort to get my laptop back.


    My PayPal account is frozen with a -$615 balance

    So they didn't ding his bank account for the $615.

    In other words, he deliberately lied in the complaint to the BBB. And he wonders why PayPal locked the account. He's lucky they don't sue his ass for libe
    • That they sent a credit agency after him for the money?
      • by Buran ( 150348 )
        The credit agency stopped going after him after he sent proof to Paypal that he does not owe them any money and that he delivered the laptop as promised and the buyer accepted it and was happy with it. In other words, Paypal is (for whatever reason) attempting to scam him for money he doesn't owe, and owes him a cancellation of the whole thing. They are the ones committing fraud.
        • by jimicus ( 737525 )
          Right, but what difference does it make if his account is cancelled or if he just ignores it and leaves it to rot?
  • by illumin8 ( 148082 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @12:14AM (#15967505) Journal
    Ok, I'm in total agreement with everyone that the KillerNIC is smoke and mirrors. From my linux host, pinging my default gateway, I'm getting times of roughly 0.135ms... that's 135 micro-seconds. How in the hell is there any way to improve that? My Windows gaming box reports 1ms, but that's probably because it doesn't get any more granular than that. Even if they could reduce that latency to zero (impossible, because electricity/light doesn't travel that fast), no human can respond that fast anyway, so what's the use?

    I especially like this part of one of their answers:
    Simply running the 'ping' program is not sufficient, because it does not use your Network stack which can introduce tons of added latency.
    WTF? The ping program does use the network stack; how else would it talk with the network? ICMP is still a protocol that needs to be encapsulated with a header and traverse down through your stack to the wire...

    The only people that will be using this card are losers that have more money than brains, and cheaters. Yes, that's right, once again, cheating is the REAL killer app for the KillerNIC. You see, after playing a lot of PvP on Guild Wars I realized one thing about lag: Game designers intentionally account for player lag and compensate for it in interesting ways. Guild Wars PvP becomes a very serious game about skill interruption. An enemy spell caster could be casting a spell that will take 1 second to cast and obliterate you when it lands. You have a skill that will interrupt their spell if you click the button fast enough, during that 1 second time period. Well, the server has to accomodate dialup users and those users that are on laggy connections, so there are times when I've casted a spell, had the progress bar go all the way to completion, and then half a second later, the spell is interrupted (after it was done casting on my end). This is because the person on the other end actually interrupted the spell in time according to their game client, but because of network lag (they're on a slow connection), the interrupt didn't get to the server for a while. The server still honored their interrupt, and eventually my spell failed. By increasing their lag, the server has to give them "extra time", which means their reaction time doesn't need to be as good to win. People will write custom FNapps or whatever they're called to do this.

    I can foresee cheaters intentionally increasing in game lag just to trigger this kind of a cheating mechanism. If you could add 100-200 ms of latency to your line, you could actually gain an advantage in games like this. I'm thinking WoW PvP is probably the same, although I'm not sure if skill interruption is a big part of that or not. If I remember correctly, WoW has a lot of insta-cast spells.
  • ZFS Commands (Score:5, Informative)

    by allenw ( 33234 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @12:36AM (#15967565) Homepage Journal
    It isn't too surprising that there aren't zfs-specific commands for mount, newfs, fsck, etc., given that all that work is done by the zfs, zpool, and other commands under Solaris.

System checkpoint complete.