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Amiga Inc. Reveals Further Info About Amiga OS5
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CowboyNeal
on Sat Oct 06, 2007 08:11 AM
from the ball-still-bouncing dept.
from the ball-still-bouncing dept.
Amiga Gamer writes "Amiga Inc. Acting President Bill McEwen has given an update to Amiga OS5 of sorts. In a previous interview Bill had said of OS5: "The product that we are going to ship is going to be much better than OSX from Apple". "OS 5 is ahead of schedule, and we will be making public announcements concerning the product in the 4th quarter of this year.""
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vlangber submitted an interview with Bill McEwen about the current state of Amiga, Inc. and their plans for the future. Bill says,
"[W]e established the concept and vision of a scalable, embeddable, multi-threaded, memory protected operating system or digital environment that would run from a cell phone to a server. This is what you are going to see us deliver."
While Amiga OS4 has been in pre-release since 2004, a final release is planned for later this year.
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All 5 amiga users jumped for joy until (Score:5, Funny)
(http://------.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 25 2005, @06:16AM)
The Berlin Amgia Users Group has 130 members. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The Berlin Amgia Users Group has 130 members. (Score:4, Funny)
(http://home.comcast.net/~steve_k/thermite.jpg)
Re:All 5 amiga users jumped for joy until (Score:5, Informative)
This is the man who claimed OS4 was on schedule to be released in 1999.
The release date was eventually December 2006, just days after the last licensee allowed to produce Amiga hardware lost their license.
Anyone else up for another 7 years of "It's nearly ready, really! No, we're serious this time..."
Makes Vista seem positively normal, and makes Leopard's delays look like an overnight shipping glitch.
Re:All 5 amiga users jumped for joy until (Score:5, Funny)
Yes, but... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.smarter-i...er/web_developer.asp)
Hey, did that guy just say rings are cool? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hey, did that guy just say rings are cool? (Score:5, Funny)
and still no girlfriend!
Thank you, thank you, i'll be here all night
I can't believe I'm saying this, but... (Score:5, Funny)
They visit our earth once more.
Duh! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Duh! (Score:4, Funny)
(http://iki.fi/teknohog/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 14, @06:49PM)
Or System V [wikipedia.org].
Re:Duh! (Score:4, Funny)
I WIN AGAIN!!!!
Who cares? (Score:5, Insightful)
Hell, IBM resurrecting OS/2 would make more sense.
Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Interesting)
Perhaps this is the rose tinted spectacles talking, but I seem to remember Amiga games having a little more variety than today. It all seems a bit corporate now. Marketing and the quest for the next amusingly expensive generation of graphics card seems to have replaced the fun games. I've checked out a lot of the "indie" games but the trouble with them is that they're all a load of shit - more on a par with the "public domain" games of the Amiga era then its commercial ones.
Re:Linux more prevailant than OSX (Score:5, Informative)
(http://pietersz.co.uk/ | Last Journal: Wednesday May 04 2005, @05:22AM)
Note that updates can be cached, there are probably people sho do not update (for example because they have slow internet connection), and there are people who update from mirrors, so it is probably an undercount.
Ubutntu and Linux are growing, so the numbers are higher now
If Ubuntu alone has that many users it seems probable that desktop Linux is ahead of Mac OS's 20m+.
Better? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/~nurb432/ | Last Journal: Friday August 27 2004, @03:24PM)
1 - what hardware does it run on, generic PC's? Generic Macs? If its still on custom hardware, its DOA at this stage of the game.
2 - software: is it all custom, or can i run Word, Acrobat, etc? If it cant run commodity software its also DOA as far as the big picture is concerned. ( X11 will help.. )
While it may be great technology, there are 100s of 'good' OS's out there that are niche markets. That doesnt make them 'better'. Even when they had a chance like Be. You just hve to have a level of compatiblity of both hardware AND software of the 2 big players to really make it and be 'better'.
yet another (Score:1, Funny)
/me goes back to playing with WinUAE
Summary of the interview: (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday December 07 2004, @09:19AM)
Robert
Sales of the new Amiga... (Score:4, Funny)
I stoped caring a long time ago. (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.csc.kth.se/~erjohan)
Amiga fanboy forever.
What -is- the situation with Hyperion? (Score:2)
(http://www.eruvia.org/)
Cheers,
Ian
Smoke and mirrors (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://df0.info/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 07, @09:39PM)
If You Can't Trust a PR guy.... (Score:2)
(http://www.threesquirrels.com/)
So what have here is a Press release announcing that in a couple of months they'll issue a Press Release.
You know, given the dissatisfaction with Vista*, the hardware constraints associated with OS X**, and the usual limitations of Linux***, there could be a place for a new OS. Whether Amiga can make the jump though is entirely another question, one largely to be answered by the eternal question: can it run MS Office?.
* No-one wants to buy it ** only runs on Apple hardware *** still too geeky for most people, and yes I know about Ubuntu
Once every blue moon an "Amiga is comming back".. (Score:4, Informative)
(http://threeseas.net/ | Last Journal: Friday January 18 2002, @01:44PM)
Is it a slow news day? Did murphy firehose it up?
Is it intended to be humor or is it to expose the remaining gullible?
Seriously, the company now known as Amiga has worked very diligently
and persistently at securing its reputation as a company intent on
keeping the Amiga off the market and deceiving what ever followers it
may still have with what amount to as soap opera antics.
Now about Amiga being better than OSX.... Think about it!
You can have the best OS in the world but if there is no software
being written for it.... who is going to use it for what?
Don'tcha think someone would have heard about software developemnt
for the Amiga if it were going to be better than _____________
(fill in the blank with any reasonably used OS)
Bill McE. is financed to be a nut... How better to keep amiga off
the market and the open source clone dev (AROS) less supported and
concerned enough about Amigas legal antics to remove "Amiga" from
all mention?
There is nothing in the last 7 + years, of which the current
"ownership of Amiga IP" has done anything beneficial for classic
Amiga users, the consumers, or for the Amiga software development
market. If fact they have done just the opposite.
And as other Blue moons have passed with little to no fan fare,
so will this one.
Only the gullible would mod this down or as flamebait.
Its honesty based on the history since before gateway sold all but the patent IP.
They are adding an interface to enable the... (Score:2, Funny)
The best new feature would be... (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Monday February 13 2006, @07:11PM)
So far, AmigaOS 4 is a bit like OS X being built for special hardware, just that this one lacks the hardware.
I can understand if Apple doesn't want to let go of OS X like that, because they after all sell a lot of hardware this way, but isn't AmigaOS 4 is in such a horribly sorry state that Amiga Inc would only win on having it support other hardware platforms better?
Why ...? (Score:4, Interesting)
Who's the target, business users, video producers, prosumers, gamers, developers, mythical moms and dads, and how will Amiga make a difference to those people compared to OSX, Windows, Linux.
I must definitely not be the target, since "Better than OSX" means precisely nil to me. OSX runs my desktop software, Windows runs it as well. Hell, Linux runs some of it. I don't just install an OS and marvel at how good it is, I run apps on it.
Amiga doesn't run anything right now, but they have a checkerboard sphere. They better have made this the best checkerboard sphere in the world ever.
Don't believe a word (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't trust Bill McEwen more than Steve Ballmer.
Good going Cowboy Neal...... (Score:2)
(http://threeseas.net/ | Last Journal: Friday January 18 2002, @01:44PM)
Notice the Date Saturday Oct 7th.....
CowboyNeal is trying to make the "2 more weeks" happen.....
If anyone could build an Amiga, it would be AMD (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.mightyware.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday November 08, @10:18PM)
But, those days are gone. If anyone could make anything like Amiga, it would be AMD (Apple is more marketing than any real hardware expertise on its own) - but AMD would also have to hire not just good, but great writers, and document everything the way the Amiga was documented. You would have to have AMD rolling out with a pretty good CPU, next generation hardware, all in a consumer friendly case with a completely new operating system. Part of Amiga's appeal was that the whole thing was different. For AMD to pump that kind of money into some new consumer / geek box would almost certainly demand that it run Windows or Linux, and we already know enough about both to not really get excited over either. A souped up / updated version of BeOS is what that kind of hardware needs - really, the coolest new OS ever made, and I doubt seriously that AMD could take that risk.
But, a man can dream.
Re:If anyone could build an Amiga, it would be AMD (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://scarygliders.net/)
I still have an Amiga 1200. Still very much alive and kicking, and a bit riced up too (monitor adapter/flicker fixer, 68040 accelerator card giving the Amy a whole 40Mhz of Insane Demonic Superpowah - wooo - IDE doubler so I can run the internal hard drive AND attach the cdrom drive, an NE2000-compatible pcmcia network card, and AmigaDOS 3.9. Oh and I had to ditch the Commodore power supply in favour of using a PC PSU in order to power all that extra stuff, heheh). The ultimate Amiga box - if only it were 15 years ago
I only boot it up from time to time, though, and since I moved to Japan I haven't touched it, simply because I haven't the time.
But every time I boot it up for a nostalgia trip I still to this day wish Commodore's execs and management hadn't completely managed to flush the whole concept down the drain like they did. Damn their interminable hides! I still remember the very first Amiga Demo I saw and heard shortly after I bought an Amiga (A500 at the time) - I literally could not believe what I was experiencing - you have to remember that at the time of the A500, PC's were still stuck in VGA-land, with very poor graphics and sound capabilities. The Amy just blew everything else out of the water. I can only dream now what current multimedia experiences would be like if the Amiga technology/hardware concepts were allowed to have evolved. When the Amiga went down the tubes, multimedia experience development and evolution was, in my opinion, basically stalled for at least a decade. Only now are graphics cards beginning to reach the stage where multimedia and games experience are beginning to impress me. I wonder what that experience would be like if the Amiga's hardware technology had been further developed and evolved since those halcyon days.
Regards.
Amiga OS5 will be so awsome, (Score:3, Funny)
Amiga missing an opportunity with handhelds (Score:2)
(http://www.colonpee.com/)
Instead, they could develop something for an N800-style tablet device. The OS is lightweight, there are 'some' applications available already and on an 800x480 screen 4.1" screen, those old AGA games might actually look good again.
Amiga.......good old days... (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://herbs.com.tw/)
Then, I upgraded to a 2000 and the 8mhz CPU just wasn't enough. I had to upgrade it with a 68030 running at *gasp* 25mhz and wow things were great. I ran a 2 phone line BBS (using C-net) with my prized USRobotics HST modem and a regular 2400 baud on the other line. Sure, it was a warez bbs but wow those were some great memories! I could multitask the BBS (with 2 users uploading/downloading/posting), write my homework using Scribble!(a wordprocessor), print my homework and have Monkey Island running at full speed while printing. No slowdown. It was amazing at the time, esp. compared to Windows (3.11? Or 3.0? Not sure, barely remember those things then).
The full screen program multitasking, which let you pull up and down a full screened program like slides, was quite amazing and powerful. The games, the sounds, all amazing. Of course, this is compared to AdLib soundcards and CGA/EGA. At the time, there was no reason to "game" with your dad's expensive PC other than the fact that it was "all that is available at home."
But now? C'mon! I soon had to let go of my Amiga when no further developments came along. When Doom came out for the PC along with Wing Commander, Strike Commander, etc., the Amiga just started to look antiquated. Sure, the multitasking element was nice, but it just lost the gaming advantage when no advances in the graphics department were forthcoming. There was just so much potential but the management just took the potential and threw it down the drain. The only graphics update I got was a
Anyway, sorry for the nostalgia. Back to topic: Workbench (the Amiga OS) 3 looks about Windows 3.1 level still, maybe a bit better. It's pathetic. I don't know about Workbench 4 and good lord how could a BRAND NEW market untested and long development dormant OS be better than OSx? C'mon! That's like creating a new model of the DeLorean and saying "This is better than a Ferrari. Trust me!"
More progress with AROS? (Score:4, Insightful)
Sounds like the AROS Project is making more progress than Amiga Inc. is.
Please see the answer to #4! (Score:1)
(http://fork.schizoid.com/)
otherwise I might have to answer a real question.
Has to be better than it's clone (Score:2, Informative)
Same:
Menus at the top of the GUI, rather than the application window.
Brain-damaged limitation on the location of the window resize controls.
Task bar/dock.
Drive icons.
Really usable command line interface.
Drag'n'drop,
Missing:
Public/shared/private screen feature.
Better:
???
BTW, anyone got a "stickies" (on-screen Post-It (tm)) equivalent for the Mac or Gnome?
Here are Ten Ways that Amiga OS 5 can work (Score:2)
(http://www.geocities.com/orion_blastar/contact/ | Last Journal: Tuesday April 03 2007, @07:19PM)
#2 Develop PPC versions of it for the Amiga PPC, PowerMac, and CHRP hardware sets so people with older systems can run it as well.
#3 Get better development tools for it. Developers want to be able to write with more than C++, Python, Free Pascal, AREXX and legacy AmigaDOS tools. Get Novell to port the Mono Development system to AmigaOS 5, get Delphi ported, get RealBASIC and TrueBASIC ported, get Ruby, Perl, Smalltalk, XBASIC, GCC, and Java ported as well.
#4 Get software developers to write AmigaOS 5 ports of their popular software. Get OpenOffice.Org, StarOffice, Quicken, Turbo Tax, Photoshop, Lotus Smartsuite, etc ported.
#5 Get Blizzard, and other game makers to write AmigaOS 5 versions of their popular games.
#6 Get the F/OSS projects ported to AmigaOS 5, like Firefox, Thunderbird, Eurdora, GNUCash, Apache, CVS, The Gimp, etc ported.
#7 Port WINE to the AmigaOS 5 X86 version, and have it built in. Also work on the OSFree [osfree.org] project to give the ability to run OS/2 programs. Also work with the Haiku OS [haiku-os.org] project to run BeOS applications on AmigaOS 5. This way you can run software written for Windows, OS/2, and BeOS on one OS, a feat never before done.
#8 Port NDIS Wrapper to use Windows drivers for AmigaOS 5, in case we cannot find any native Windows drivers. Also allow Linux, FreeBSD, and Mac OSX drivers to work as well.
#9 Work in parallel with the Amiga Research OS [sourceforge.net] that AmigaOS 3.5 was based on, so that they can give AROS AmigaOS 5.0 features.
#10 Get Virtual Machines ported to AmigaOS 5.0 like VMWare, Bochs, QEMU, Parallels, etc. Also get emulators ported like MAME, MESS, VICE, UAE, Stella, ZNES, SNES, Virtual Gameboy Advance, Basilisk II, VMac, ported to the Amiga OS 5 system.
Back in the day (Score:2)
(http://www.in-trinsic.net/)
Sounds like somebody's jealous... (Score:3, Informative)
(Last Journal: Tuesday October 30, @10:59AM)
It's tagged "colddayinhell" because Amiga is vaporware. Since Vista has actually been released, consider the new joke to be, "Amiga 5 WILL be released... and it will be bundled with Duke Nukem Forever."
Re:GTK developers, please, read! (Score:1)
I also can't stand the point-and-click "Visual" GUI editors - handcoding a GUI in MUI was both easier, and more flexible (e.g., works better when you resize the window, easier to swap the order of elements). It's clever use of macros meant that the interface definition could be inlined in the code, rather than being read in from XML files or whatever.