New MacBook Case Leak Rumors 243
Someone noted that there are more macbook case leaks which look to all but confirm a new MacBook and possibly a MacBook Pro expected to be announced for later this week. There seem to be fewer ports, and no leaks of a 17" aircraft carrier laptop.
whoopdifriggindo (Score:2, Insightful)
whoopdifriggindo.
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I've been waiting for several months for an updated product line from Apple, so it's at least news to me. OS X has an even larger market share than Linux on the desktop, and we damn sure read about every little Ubuntu release here... I don't really see the problem. Apple is getting bigger too, not smaller.
Re:whoopdifriggindo (Score:5, Insightful)
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So rumors are suddenly not welcome on Slashdot? Wow, that's a first!
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actually, they have a press conference about notebooks scheduled for tomorrow.
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This is a website primarily for free software and GNU/Linux news though.
The Linux section is for that, with the major stuff "leaking" into main, yes. I agree.
Re:whoopdifriggindo (Score:5, Interesting)
This is a website primarily for free software and GNU/Linux news though.
Citation needed.
That's one part of what slashdot is for, and it seems likely that that's primarily why *you* are here, but that's not a universal. Besides, even if it *is* the primary reason for slashdot (it's not, but let's just pretend), then if there is a primary purpose, there would reasonably be articles with secondary purposes, like this one.
Some additional purposes of slashdot are:
1. Gaming
2. Sony bashing (this has waned significantly)
3. Fawning over Apple (what this article is about)
4. Security scaremongering
5. Predicting the death of various technologies
6. Tech politics
etc.
I know in recent years that has weakened slightly, but I think the release of a bunch of software that everyone is encouraged to download, share, study, modify, run and distribute is somewhat different to 'proprietary software company release new model of their $2000 operating system dongle' in terms of its usefulness to society.
I agree. At least with OS X, society can actually use the system.
I submit that more people listen to music, share photos and videos, video chat, etc, because of Apple's hardware and software and than because of Linux. Maybe some day (a day which perpetually seems to be perpetually just ahead, like a horizon that can never be reached) Linux will catch up or surpass Apple's products, but until then, Apple is quite important to society.
On the other hand, more web sites function because of Linux than because of Apple's servers (although in this case, OS X is more able to replace Linux as a web server than Linux is able to replace OS X as a desktop OS).
In other words, each has its place here on slashdot.
Re:whoopdifriggindo (Score:4, Funny)
whoopdifriggindo is a tag, not a post.
whoopdifriggindoisatagnotapost is a tag.
That's why it's offtopic.
Information Leaks vs. Dripping Battery Fluid (Score:4, Interesting)
It's not the best of headlines - my interpretation of "case leaks" was "it's dripping battery fluid" or "RF leaking enough to interfere with nearby devices", etc. That would have been worth a Slashdot article.
But if the leak is just not-yet-announced marketing information, then it needs to be pretty interesting.
Re:whoopdifriggindo (Score:4, Insightful)
...or they could just turn off the "Apple" section and it wouldn't show up on their front page at all.
The Apple Product Cycle (Score:4, Informative)
In my humble opinion, there should be a law that would make linking of The Apple Product Cycle [misterbg.org] with every single mac/slashvertisement mandatory.
Wait for Tuesday.... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Wait for Tuesday.... (Score:4, Funny)
Seriously, we knew more laptops were coming [cnet.com], but it's just one day away to get the actual announcement.
Yeah, but the Mac fans are all on the edge of their seats! Gotta know in advance of the announcement! Of course, true Mac fans will all be watching the actual announcement live on podcast tomorrow because The Great and Mighty Steve may actually say something important!
The true Mac fan will, of course, be meditating on all The Great Steve has to say....ooooohhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm......must achieve enlightenment.....oooooohhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm......
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Is that when they have the annual chair throwing competition?
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Yeah, but the Mac fans are all on the edge of their seats! Gotta know in advance of the announcement! Of course, true Mac fans will all be watching the actual announcement live on podcast tomorrow because The Great and Mighty Steve may actually say something important!
The true Mac fan will, of course, be meditating on all The Great Steve has to say....ooooohhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm......must achieve enlightenment.....oooooohhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm......
Yeah, gee, if only I could get excited about OOv3 being released I could sit with the cool kids at lunch.
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Of course, true Mac fans will all be watching the actual announcement live on podcast tomorrow
You know Podcasts aren't live, right?
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Or maybe its because we follow the one of the last American innovative companies! Apple's stock was flat last week... how about the rest of the tech sector?
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What, no reference to flying chairs?
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actually, the Lenovo x-series tablets have spill-resistant keyboards [lenovo.com] that channel spills out the bottom of the system without damaging internal components. having a recessed keyboard or not doesn't make much of a difference when there are open gaps where liquids can seep through between the keys. it's what you do with the liquid that gets under the keys that matters.
i don't know if Macs have this safety feature, but having a raised keyboard won't protect it from spills any more than a recessed keyboard.
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The best news is refurb store is going to be flooded. I'm looking to replace my 1st Gen Intel MBP with a newer Core 2 Duo Multi-Touch pad.
Full 1 year warranty (just like the new stuff) at a pretty good discount.
Boring. (Score:5, Insightful)
Okay this is just dull. A new case? There really better be more to it. ,a 7200 RPM drive, maybe room for an extra drive, and two to four dimm sockets.
Things I would love to see.
A new Mac Cube. A slightly larger mac mini with a PCIe slot for a video board
Price $499. It would kill HP and Dell in one fell swoop.
A mac Netbook.
Back in the day the Steves tried to make computers for everyone. Now the Steve makes them for the "elite". Kind of sad in a way.
Yes I do like their good design work and great OS but they are making money hand over foot so why not go for a knock out?
The Apple Volksputer.
Sorry, (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing is going to kill Dell/HP except for themselves. The simple fact is most people buying PCs don't care about Mac because it does not have Windows on it. I know some live in a fantasy world but it is true, people don't care. If it works and they are used to it they will keep it.
As for those specs, Apple is doing a good job of moving further away from end user friendly hardware with each and every release. Steve isn't making computers for the "elite", he is making computers that make Apple money and making Apple money means that if you want an upgrade you buy a new computer.
Re:Sorry, (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't think you get it. People don't want Windows anymore. They want their software. I see more and more people buying Apples then running Windows on bootcamp, Fusion, and Parallels. The average home user just need a browser, email, iTunes, Quickin, and TruboTax. Maybe a few casual games.
The average home user can already move to the Mac with little to no problem.
The big thing is cost. If apple would come out with a Mac Mini that only cost $499 and was expandable You would see even more people buy them. The game market for the Mac would massively increase as would video card options.
People only buy Windows machines for two reasons. They are cheap or they have to run some program under windows.
Apple is already increasing their market share and more and more developers are porting to the Mac. Soon it will be only the the cost that keeps people on Windows.
Heck I am a Linux guy at heart but If Apple produced a $499 expandable Mac I would buy it.
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The average home user just need a browser, email, iTunes, Quickin, and TruboTax. Maybe a few casual games.
so those guys wanting to exchange Linux netbooks for the WinXP version are not average users?
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I didn't know that they had Linux versions of itunes and quickin?
Actually nobody that buys a netbook is an average user. And that was from one manufacture. I believe it since none of the netbook versions of Linux I have seen have been that good.
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Sure, Apple's engineering, for cooling and fitting stuff in, is one of the best, and I love the work they do.
But do you really think you're going to get that 499$ expandable Mac? Do you really think that's going to be what you were expecting? Apple is notorious now for laptop parts in desktops. They want to make high margins. That's how Steve rolls. I really doubt you're going to get an open platform.
And, who wants to be tied down to Apple? Really? Assuming it would come with a Core 2 Duo E4500 or Pentium-D
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"OSX? What real advantage does it have?"
System wide spell checker.
Time machine.
Quick look.
And a much better development platform.
Dell's are not bad machines and I think Apple can match them for price for quality any day. I think you are way under estimating the benefits of OS/X.
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I'm just asking if OSX would be really worth the price of a new computer.
I have system-wide spell checking under Linux; the programs just need to support it (I don't think it would be too tough to add in aspell support). Time Machine could be done; I thought about that one, but can't rsync have versioning? (assuming TM can do that...) Konqueror has been doing "quick look" for a while now thanks to KParts.
And as for better development platform, although I'm a Python + Perl person, I hear GnuStep (if you like
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I was comparing OS/X to Windows.
Linux has one real problem I see left. It lacks an effective way to market software.
The differences in distributions still makes selling off the shelf software a challenge. I keep hoping that Ubuntu will see the light and bring an iTunes like software store to Linux. I do not believe that you can have a successful desktop without a place for none FOSS software. I will even say that it is about freedom. The freedom to choose. If I feel a program is worth the money then pay f
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It's not all just "free money" or otherwise companies would jump at the chance. If CodeWeavers was saying they were just gifting other companies with cash (no strings attached) not many would turn them down.
Very likely these other companies have concluded that while there may be more money in this route the risks and extra expenditures aren't worth it. Before you say there aren't any risks or expenditures maybe you should ask yourself the question again - "If it's just free money why doesn't every company
Uh, what is the climate on your planet. (Score:2)
I don't think you get it.
Letting you in on a secret... /. is not the PC market, nor is Digg, nor are 90% of the other similar sites.
If anything what is in the current Best Buy ad has more to do with what they want than some site.
Really, are people this delusional and think that because they read it on the internet or it just "happens" to agree with their view that it must be that way?
Hello.
Yeah I am mocking your post but damn if people didn't rate it highly, what gives.
People buy Windows because it works.
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As opposed to the sieve that is Windows? Apple has a good number of machine out now and no where near the exploits of Windows. Could Apple do better? Yes they could but then the number of Windows issues I have had to deal with over the years makes that look trivial.
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I have dealt with the mess that is Windows for a very long time. Windows security has been none existent for a long time. It is just now getting to be one step above a terrible joke. Guess what? I work for a software developer. So I do know windows inside and out. It is ugly ugly ugly.
Re:Sorry, (Score:5, Insightful)
I work for a software developer
Well, those are some impressive credentials. What are you, secretary? Assistant (to the) regional manager?
So I do know windows inside and out.
Oh, so what does this imply? That you know the .NET stack? In-depth knowledge of the Win32 API?
Can you at least make an argument without using baseless claims and accusations? Anecdotal evidence, hard evidence, anything?
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Hard evidence that windows has suffered a multitude of security breaches over the years?
What planet have you been one.
My favorite windows bug? I wish I could find it now but there was an ascii file that if you used the type command on it would BSOD.
And then there is the bug in MFC that causes a GPF if a synaptic touch pad driver is used.
This is online forum and you are using stupid political tricks to try to dismiss statements that you don't like.
Never said that OS/X was prefect but to claim that Windows i
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UNIX runs the Internet, so I suspect OS X has the more scrutinized foundation. Simply blaming popularity for Windows' myriad of problems over the years compared to OS X ignores that Win32 began as a single-user subsystem and that Microsoft ignored the Internet until 1998.
Another counterargument is that Apache has higher market share than IIS, yet IIS has had more security flaws over the years. By your reasoning, Apache should be the one with more flaws.
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UNIX runs the Internet, so I suspect OS X has the more scrutinized foundation.
Yeah, I've heard this fallacy before. Are you going to tell me that the Unix that "runs" the internet in anyway resembles the Unix that runs OS X? OS X is a hybrid kernel to begin with, so that's strike one. Strike two, it's Unix with an entire desktop stack on top of it, which is where the majority of your exploits are introduced.
Simply blaming popularity for Windows' myriad of problems over the years compared to OS X ignores that Win32 began as a single-user subsystem and that Microsoft ignored the Internet until 1998.
Microsoft had a terrible track record on security. So, using that reasoning, can I use pre-OS X (or, pre-OS X 10.2 for that matter) examples to justify my point? In fairness,
Re:Sorry, (Score:4, Insightful)
"Apple themselves have put up a barrier to that. In order to actually develop programs for Macs, you have to pay them quite a bit of money just to get the basic dev tools, and even more in order to make higher end programs."
Huhh?
Okay do you know how much MSDN+Visual Studio costs?
The professional version is $1,199 per year!
It goes up from there.
For the ADC it starts at $499. But you can get ADC online version which includes XCode for... Free.
Apple is if anything is cheaper than Windows for the official developers packages.
Free "gcc" development tools are available for both.
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ROFL! Do you ever actually, you know, check facts or anything before posting, or just spout stuff you assume to be true or heard off the bloke down the pub?
Apple ship the entire development suite with every single installation disk of OS X free of charge. That means every Mac buyer h
Steve can't just keep doing that as EFiX and Pstar (Score:3, Insightful)
Steve can't just keep doing that as EFiX and Psystar will pass apple up and if Psystar where to win a fee key points in court then apple will have to respond and come out with a real desktop mid-tower.
Also the mini is over year old with the same price how does that make people want to buy a new computer?
nvidia on board video / chipsets is a good step in putting better video in mac systems as $1200 or less systems have better video then the $1500 mac book black and the $2000 mac book pro has weak video next
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And when Pystar and EFiX win. Apple doesn't get as much revenue to continue to develop their OS. So they stop. Then what will Pystar and EFiX push?
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Sales of mac os x will go up and apple will have to come out with better priced hardware that getting updated faster and have a desktop mid-tower with desktop parts and a real video card.
starting at $600 - $700 and up they can keep a low end $500 or less mini for the people who want a small system.
$2300 for a sever / high end workstation is over the top for most people and the mini is too week. The Imacs use laptop parts and have poor screen choice. If there was more choice matte or glossy. As well as scree
Re:Sorry, (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah... except that people do care. Maybe people aren't switching en masse out of hand, but Mac's percentage of the market has been rising, and (anecdotal evidence, yada yada) I know several people who've made the switch already, and several others who are just waiting for the end of their current computer's useful lifetime. Not that Mac is going to suddenly overwhelm the PC market, but it's not infeasible to compete with and/or overthrow monopolies, just hard. Plus, the likelihood of Dell/HP killing themselves isn't really small enough to discount.
Also, people don't actually buy computers for Windows. In fact, if Vista showed anything, it's that people buy computers FOR THE COMPUTER. If the OS makes it look more likely that the computer will be buggy, well, that will inhibit growth.
A lot of Mac's decisions do irk me, but I also feel that I have to point out that they're close to being as upgradeable as the PC in each product subcategory. Their laptop isn't particularly locked down by laptop standards, although it does lack a fscking manual eject on the CD-ROM*. The iMac is at least as upgradable as Gateway's or Sony's "Computer + monitor," and isn't a piece of crap, to boot. The Mini... well, the Mini is locked down, but it's also half the size of the Shuttle mini cases. The Mac Pro... I've not looked at it, but it seems upgradeable enough.
* Off topic, but holy crap I hate that there's no way to physically force the Mac laptops to give back your CD if it can't recognize that it has it.
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If you mean that it literally never mounted or anything, I think holding down the mouse button at boot will do it. This dates from long ago (probably the original Mac) where the same technique worked for ejecting floppies.
Re:Sorry, (Score:4, Interesting)
I recently went back to school after some years of working in the industry. To say that people don't care if the computer does not have Windows on it is a conjuncture that might have had some validity in 2001. Now a days people are not afraid to leave Windows. I look around at most of my classes and 8/10 kids with laptops are actually using Apple! These are the same kids who in a couple of years will be graduating and going into the industry. I predict a major shift away from Windows. It has already started. Microsoft is slowly becoming less relevant.
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What course are you doing?
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A mac mini with pci-e and adequate ventilation and I'd buy one tomorrow - and I don't say things like that too often. Dissapointed in the direction mac laptop keyboards have been moving. I love the "scissor action" of my "TiBook" powerbook but I can't stand the flat keys/odd feeling 'spacing'.
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If apple started to manufacture systems themselves then yes that would be big news. The problem is all the leaks seem to come from China so I don't think that is a big deal.
Machining the case? Well CNC milling is very old. A new production process that makes it cheaper. Mildly interesting to the end user and only if it drops the price of the case.
Now if they where casting them then that might be interesting but milling seems like a waste. I know they will recycle the scraps but I would think casting would b
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Machining the case? Well CNC milling is very old. A new production process that makes it cheaper. Mildly interesting to the end user and only if it drops the price of the case.
Depends on who the end user is. I would imagine it could have a real interest if it means really solid cases without the premium price.
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"I would imagine it could have a real interest if it means really solid cases without the premium price."
Not really. Again all you care about is the results and the cost. Which is the way things should be.
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Not dull to me-- they're apparently killing off FireWire in the MacBook!
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Back in the day the Steves tried to make computers for everyone. Now the Steve makes them for the "elite". Kind of sad in a way.
Yes I do like their good design work and great OS but they are making money hand over foot so why not go for a knock out?
The Apple Volksputer.
Back in the day a computer "for everyone" was a proprietary product in an industry of proprietary products. Today's market is largely dominated by commodity hardware with more and more pressure towards commodity software as well.
Commodity markets are difficult environments; especially to achieve growth. This market is difficult enough that IBM, the very company who introduced the platform that became the basis for this commodity market, has taken steps to distance itself from it (selling off their PC divi
Rumors that the case leaks? (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, this is slightly interesting (Score:3, Informative)
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Sounds like you shouldn't hack on the night of the full moon. :)
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My mom had complained about that too - not hairs getting stuck, but just it being uncomfortable. I'm glad to see that it's fixed.
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nice case. (from what we can see) (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, maybe I'll settle for some of the best looking hardware around.
If I could, then I would and extra 50 quid (that's great British pounds btw) for a bare PC in a nice milled metal aluminum case...
When everything is knocked up in China on a cost basis, you lose something in the way of aesthetics..
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Apple's machines are knocked up in China, strictly speaking. Like HP, Dell, etc. they mostly contract Chinese firms to build hardware to their designs.
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That's strange, my iPhone's screen isn't "a mess of finger prints", but then OTOH I don't eat greasy food while using it, and I wipe it off if it does become messy (about every 2-3 days, takes around 10 seconds).
As for the plastic in consumer Macs, I've had no problem with discoloration, but then I don't blow smoke on them, smear various substances on them or expose them to other hostile environmental factors.
Maybe you should either a) actually use Apple hardware before trolling, or b) treat your hardware a
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Just a guess (Score:2)
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It looks like it's going to be aluminum and may have no firewire ports.
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No Firewire 400 ports. Firewire 800 and 3200 are smaller.
What they need... (Score:3, Informative)
The things would sell like hotcakes.
The currently Macbook Pros underwhelm with their graphics cards at the prices they're listed at.
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nvidia graphics card
Why no love for ATI? :(
That HD4670 looks pretty sweet. I wonder if you could make a mobile version easily enough? Or would it be overkill?
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The sad thing is presumably these extra components have gotten cheaper as USB is old tech as is Firewire. While connectivity realestate is at a premium for a laptop I'd think you'd want to have at least comparable to your competitions mid range offering.
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Firewire is all but dead in the consumer world.
It's still used heavily in the digital video camera market, including HD cameras. I'm interested in getting a new laptop, but it had better come with a 9-pin to 6-pin adapter for connecting Firewire 400 devices to the FW800 port, or I'll have to buy separately a Firewire 800 hub, an adapter, and a Firewire 400 hub.
And having those extra hubs hanging off makes it less convenient to lug around on a video shoot, especially if they want their own external power sources.
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Because more people use wireless - the new Apple cordless mouse and keyboard are Bluetooth.
If you have to use a USB mouse + keyboard + hard disk + pen drive you're obviously at home so just buy a USB hub. Extra bonus - only one thing to plug in each time.
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too bad the apple mouse sucks so bad
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I had 3 USB ports I seem to recall, my MacBook Pro only has two.
What version is that? My Macbook Pro purchased last May has 3 USB ports, plus it has bluetooth that you could run a mouse or KB through.
Yawn. (Score:3, Insightful)
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Good riddance.
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The thing that I really liked about the clamshell iBook is the handle. You close it and there's a handy handle to carry it with. Granted, someone described it as looking like a "drag queen's purse", but it was a tough handle. Most notebooks you just grab and hope for the best.
Too thin for practical structural integrity. (Score:2, Interesting)
Having owned a macbook with a much thicker plastic case, and looking at this one, I can't help but comment on how the form factor to case thickness ratio is very similar.
The macbook continues to warp very easily to this day, causing the fan housing to do the same, and the blades of the fan to scrape the housing.
Apple is starting to value form OVER function rather than form AND function. I'm going to be waiting a good long time until apple starts introducing stiffening trusses. I'm pretty sure aluminum won'
"starting to"? (Score:4, Funny)
Apple is starting to value form OVER function
"starting to"?
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Macrumors.com (Score:5, Informative)
I thought I should mention MacRumors [macrumors.com], a long-established site for Mac-related rumors and news, since it looks like Taco wasn't aware there are already sites that do this sort of thing.
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OMFG!! (Score:5, Funny)
OMFG!! Did ...Did you see THAT!?? I can't believe it! Ohh noooo! He couldn't! Damn, Steve nailed it again! Ohh nooo, it is..it is sooo G-O-R-G-E-O-U-S! The first *aluminium* MacBook...Brilliant! And did you see the keyholes?? OMG it has soooomany! Damn I want one! And the bigger trackpad?...Astonishing! I better ran off to camp in the waiting line and keep posting from there...
what is the size? (Score:2)
Airplanes and cars did this transition too (Score:5, Insightful)
What's new here is not just another revision of an exxisting product. Apple has turned the physical structure of the notebook inside out. Older notebooks have an internal metal frame of some kind. Parts were screwed to the frame and then the case acted as a cover. What Apple has done is mde the cae out of very rigid aluminum. The parts are now screwed to the inside of the case and there is no internal frame. The case itself is the frame.
Cars and airplanes went through this kind of transition too. In the early days of cars and planes each had an internal frame but now the skin itself is the frame.
What we should expect is a stronger and lighter computer. Maybe better cooling too and easier to re-cycle later after it is no longer useful as a computer.
Its not only the new case !!! (Score:2, Informative)
In addition to the new case (which by any means can be considered a minor change), there is speculation that the new Macs will be using nVidia MCP79 chipsets [softpedia.com].
Along with the comparatively better graphics performance, this will also add SLI support to the Macbooks.
Where's the usual spin? (Score:2)
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I actually like hearing about a company that is innovating in the marketplace rather than shouting, "ME2!!!!!!!!" Can't think of the last time I saw $MS actually invent something they couldn't sue, buy out or copy.
MS does that because they can make a ton of money that way - let someone else do the market research for them, and then swoop in and buy or obliterate the innovator if they succeed; and not spend the R&D dollars if they fail.
Overall, not a bad strategy; fast followers can be very successful if they can execute rapidly.
Re:Apple posts rock for two reasons (Score:5, Insightful)
Pompous attitude of its user base... ethical concerns over its atmosphere of secrecy and dodgey take on copyright and patent issues... I could go on.
I'm not a Mac hater, but neither are they the shining gods of saving us all.
P.S. It's M$. You know, because the dollar sign looks like an 'S'.
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It's amazing how many people hate apple for no good reason
Hate Apple for no good reason? Apple is the new Microsoft. Apple updater on Windows is malware, installing poorly written USB drivers without your consent to push their DRM agenda while, reducing system stability. iTunes is a huge steaming pile of bloated shit. They NDA they're freaking App Store denial letters, for Christ's sake (along with anyone using the iPhone SDK for that matter). They try to lock you into their overpriced platform. This is the same company trying to DRM a fucking SHOE, so you c
So buy a Mac... (Score:2)
None of the problems you see with Apple SW on Windows are present on Macs.
But Windows sucks whether or not you install any crappy Apple SW on it.
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None of the problems you see with Apple SW on Windows are present on Macs.
So if I buy Apple's overpriced MP3 player or phone I need to buy Apple's overpriced computer for it to work properly?
Exactly.
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...$MS actually invent something they couldn't sue, buy out or copy
Yeah, because everyone had things like Exchange Server and Active Directory before '$MS' (Don't you mean 'M$?'). Netware and Groupwise were great in 1998, but welcome to the real world in 2008 where Apple is still irrelevant in the business world and Microsoft has some unique products. Oh, remember how M$ completely ripped off System Restore from Apple's Time Machine? I don't because it actually happened the other way around. Microsoft is a shitty, dirty, underhanded company in a lot of ways, but you cle
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no we had [generic Unix mail server that doesn't support half the features Exchange does] and [one of the generic directory protocols that can be used used to access Active Directory and isn't even close to the same class of application] instead of the bloated mess that is M$ product "development". M$ has no unique products...oh maybe the bloated ugly crashing piece of shit called vista. Remember how unix completely ripped off [generic archiving format/application that doesn't really have anything to do with MS System Restore besides the fact that it is an archiving app] from M$ System Restore ? I don't because it actually [didn't happen]. i agree that M$ is a shitty dirty and underhanded company. no argument there.
You're just as bad as the Apple guy (are you the Apple guy posting AC?).
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Nope, it's just unlabeled glass keys.