Firefox Accepting Feature Suggestions for Version 3 422
Krishna Dagli writes to mention an article over at Ars Technica discussing the Firefox team's call for feature suggestions. Version 3 of the software is already in the works, and the team members are looking to the community for ideas on where to go next. From the article: "The wish list is long indeed, and it provides an insight into the desires of the browser community, and a look at the open source development process. While closed-source projects often ask their user community for feedback on requested features, the process is not usually open to the public. For Firefox 3, anyone can both suggest new features and comment on other people's suggestions. The feature requests are divided into categories, such as browser customization, privacy features, security, history, download manager, and other areas. There are suggestions for features found in other competing browsers, such Safari, IE 7 beta, and Opera. IE7 seemed to be featured most prominently, with requests for "low-rights mode," as well as more cosmetic features like skins that mimic Microsoft's browser."
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'Working Offline' Feature (Score:3, Interesting)
I suppose it's due to the whole Mozilla-Google bias of doing everything online, and away from the desktop where Microsoft reigns supreme.
But as a user, I'd like the ability to work offline if possible.
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It's Weaselgate, damnit.
So Close (Score:3, Funny)
So close to being a perfect pun: "Since I'm only a geek by avocation, rather than by a vocation..."
Unless this [slashdot.org] happened.
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number 1 request (Score:2, Funny)
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In FF3 I'd like to see integrated
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Firefox needs some work on the popup front. (Score:5, Interesting)
In keeping with my request to allow for intuitive suppression of the nasty ""do you want to remember password for this site?" popups, they should put an option on the system prompts that you can click to make them go to the status bar from then on: "Do you want future such popups on the status bar instead?"
I love how Firefox nicely diminishes popups that come from intentional design of web programmers, but the way Firefox itself throws annoying hard-to-get rid of popups needs some work.
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Keep it simple ... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yeah, pick two, I know...
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Dont think soo.
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I take it you haven't read the CSS specs. There's no way that you're going to make it "fast" and "compliant" at the same time. You'll have to chose one of them. The reason some browsers feel fast today is because we have fast computers or they skip corners when it comes to the standards.
Oh, one good step would to make an "force xml mode", in which xhtml is allowed, but non xml-compilent markup is rejected. I'm only guessing, but if the
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If such a feature is included, I would like to be able to turn it off. My firefox very, very rarely crashes (once every few *months* Java or Flash bring it down). If you're having crashing problems, you should start up a new profile and re-install your extensions one by one to see which one is causing you the grief.
Re:Keep it simple ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Plugins
Run plugins as a independent process, that talks with firefox via a socket or something like this. If a plugin crash it doesn't take firefox with it. It also allow one to kill a locked or high load plugins and keep surfing.
Run plugins as a independent process, so that when they leak memory, that memory will be freed when the tab or window is closed.
Run plugins as a independent process, so that when a plugin refuses to shut down (like acroread), the browser can forcibly kill it.
Stability and resource-utilization improvements
Put each document into an independent process (not thread: separate forked process) so that:
When a document causes Firefox to crash, the whole browser won't be taken with it.
When a bug in Firefox stomps on memory it doesn't own, other documents in memory are not corrupted.
When a document causes Firefox to leak massive amounts of memory, closing that tab or window will free up the wasted memory.
When a bug in Firefox or a script on the page locks up (infinite loop or whatnot), the whole browser will not hang up, just the one document. Closing the tab or window kills the aberrant process. This is also an issue for DNS lookup; the browser always freezes completely during DNS lookup. Make this affect only the document being loaded.
Obviously, this also means that the Firefox main UI should also be in a separate process, and you should use IPC and sharing of window-system resource IDs and handles to communicate between UI and document processes.
When the UI crashes, restarting the UI can sweep up documents that find themselves unattached and re-present them undisturbed.
Cross-site scripting and buffer overflow exploits have a much harder time hacking into information for other documents, because they are inaccessible in separate processes.
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I'm happy for many features to be in extensions and a lean, mean version to be provided for those who want it. I'd also like a "bloated" browser as well, full of plugins that are considered useful, carefully maintained, and also checked to make sure they all work well together.
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It's called Opera, and works like a charm.
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More choice isn't always a great idea.
https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?app=firefox& type=E&appfilter=firefox&perpage=10&left=1870 [mozilla.org]
1,880 extensions is waaaay to much for any computer n00blet to wade through.
Even if you assume that 75% are dupes, 470 is still a lot of discreet options to wade through.
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- Barebones, browser only, users must install their own extensions. Most geeks will want this one.
- Some common and supported extensions preinstalled to support features included in competing browsers. Most people will want this one.
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Stability. (Score:5, Insightful)
With extensions, Firefox does pretty much anything that anyone could want in a browser. I'd like only two things from Firefox 3:
1. More stability and less memory usage. On both Windows and OS X, Firefox can swallow all your system resources if you leave it running long enough and do enough browsing. On my machines, the program also crashes, infrequently but regularly, most often when a page it's loading is corrupted by a network error. Spend the effort on finding memory leaks and bugs instead of adding gewgaws.
2. Without changing the functionality of the interface or its basic elements, make it prettier. The buttons look big, garish, and way too colorful; look at Safari for one example of a better way. (I use a skin to make my Firefox installs look much like Safari, but I think a more professional/more beautiful interface could inspire more people to switch.)
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Eliminate browser catatonia! (Score:2)
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After reading the current list on the Mozilla feature brainstorming page, if even a few of these features get built into Fx 3 is going to be too heavy to be practical. I am already concerned about Fx 2.0. Such things as built in spellchecker is fine in an extension, but I have no need of it (screw you grammar nazis, spelling isn't standardised between countries and hasn't been standardised at all for much more than a century). I have not yet upgraded to the RC, and not entirely sure
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Re:supress password popups with one click. (Score:5, Funny)
I doubt they will do this though. The password popup window already contains too many buttons: [Yes], [No] and [Never for this site]. End-users are already instantly paralyzed when they see a window with three buttons, like a deer in the headlights of an onrushing car. Adding a fourth button will make their brains melt out of their ears.
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True, but most people that use Firefox aren't your typical "end-user" that automatically clicks "OK" on dialogue boxes. FF users are a tad brighter than that...usually. I only find the pop-up annoying when I'm logging into a site for the first time after a total browser re-install (or any other situation wherein my passwords are no longer saved) and can't remember wha
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Should Firefox remember this password for this site?
[ ] Yes, please have it visible for every sucker that can physically or remotely access this pc.
[ ] Yes, but first let me make a masterpassword to secure it.
[ ] No, maybe later.
[ ] No, never for this site.
[ ] No, and never bother me again.
PS usability freaks: up to 7 choices is allowed.
(PS I still love FF ok?)
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In Firefox's preferences dialog, go to "Privacy", "passwords" and uncheck the "remember passwords" checkbox. I fail to see if this is an obscure setting or if it is even even burried in a menu.Have you even bothered to look at Firefox's preferences?
More focus on easy to use security will be nice (Score:5, Interesting)
It could seriously kick off use of GPG amongst the non-geeks for authentication (mostly) and encryption (past a critical mass). I don't believe it would be that difficult to explain to normal IT literate (ie, already uses Firefox or Opera) the benefit of signatures in evading blame and establishing trust.
Semi-on-topic, on the security front Firefox 2 fixes [revis.co.uk] the bug with tab icon handling that allows fingerprinting of Firefox 1.5 [revis.co.uk] by tracking isolated
Webmail? (Score:4, Interesting)
No need to thank me, it was a Slashdot post that tipped me off.
History: When I closed a window (Score:5, Interesting)
I can't count the number of times I've closed a tab and then wanted it back later in the day, but been unable to find the url because I've actually had it open on my desktop for several days (so it's not in yesterday's history.) Being able to sort history by "close time" as well as "open time" would be really useful.
Maybe this could be a firefox extention. Hmm.
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Why are we even bothering... (Score:5, Funny)
It even supports active X! Active X! None of the true internet experience will be lost to you now.
Less = More (Score:5, Interesting)
They're feeling the heat from IE7, and loaded v2 up with many of the features I already had using some extensions. But not everyone wants the extras...
So I say on to FF devs:
Less equals more, remove the bloat and bring back our lightweight, secure browser and let us customize it how we want it to be.
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The problem is that basically the only real market share out there for grabs, is people who don't know anything more than "I click in the internet icon". If you give them the bare-bones, they'll go back to IE7.
The solution would seem to be to have official plugins shipped with the browser installer, which power users could deactivate (during installation) or replace.
Though personally I feel some things should just be built in (remembering tabs on restart for instance)
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my suggestions (Score:5, Interesting)
-- figure out some way of supporting drag-and-drop file uploads better
-- better editors for textareas (maybe support Mozex officially and find some way of letting users embed their favorite editors right in the page)
-- integrate better with Thunderbird and other Mozilla applications
-- replace the cumbersome XPCOM programming model (IDL compiler and all that) with something that's more like the Objective C object model and runtime
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TBH, the whole of Gnome feels like it is trying to force Windows conventions down Linux users' throats...
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But for the love of God, don't standardize on a user-coddler like GNOME. I used GNOME for three years, with ever-increasing annoyance and frustration, until finally I said to hell with it and tried KDE.
KDE lets me do what I want to do. I'm never going back.
Support for programming and layout features (Score:2)
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Obviously, you can get away with using fonts in your web graphics and images, everyone does it. One feature that I think would actually be nice, come to think
An automatic porn suggester (Score:5, Funny)
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Per site Shockwave Flash disabling!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
Per-plugin memory accounting (Score:5, Interesting)
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I've thought for a long time that there would be significant benefits in running the extensions in their own processes instead of part of the firefox process. It would isolate their memory (memory leaks are easier to see and they
Different password handling (Score:5, Insightful)
Wait until the password has been accepted before offering to save it.
Other than that. Slim it down to the bare minimum and let people customize it with extensions.
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Perhaps a box should stay on screen until you close it (with "keep" or "discard" password). Then you can try it, and verify, and then let Firefox know the results.
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Yes, but shouldn't that be enough? At that point you are able to make an informed decision about whether to store the password or not - it is a simple matter of reading the page which is returned.
Forgot another annoyance (Score:3, Funny)
The browser layout is: ||adressebar || ||Searchbar ||
However, the shortcut is ctrl+k for search and ctrl+l for search - that is to say the exact opposite (at least on a danish keyboard) orientation of the addresse and search bar. Stupid and avoidable usability error which is impossible to fix now as everyone has grown used to it:(
4 things (Score:5, Interesting)
for(;;) alert("Please restart your browser.");
2. Make hotkeys work everywhere, all the time. (You know when you hit CTRL+L and nothing happens)
3. Make it possible to open javascript links in new tabs.
4. Support for soft hypens [unicode.org].
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Moving forward, not standing still (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Moving forward, not standing still (Score:5, Informative)
1. Open up all the tabs you want to open on startup.
2. Go to Options and click "Use current pages" in the Home Page Location setting.
You can also enter them by hand in this field by separating tabs with a |.
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What I had in mind was slightly different. When you first turned it on after a defined period it would open all the tabs you normally check. However you would still have only one homepage, and if you clicked on the home button you would only get that page, not the whole set. I don't think it already does that, does it?
I use my homepage as a navigator, so I don't want 10 pages opening every time I click on it.
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I know that.
However since there are many, many transparent GIFs out there its useful to try and improve the look of them. Particularly so since you already have the code for full alpha PNGs in there. Taking the existing jaggy transparent GIFs it is possible to recognise the edges of the 1 bit alpha mask and create smoother alpha values, extrapolating edge color values appropriately to arrive a smoother GIF image edges.
Yes its a hack, and I'll guess there are some smart algorithms out there to do it bett
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It's the task of the web developer/designer to make the site pretty. The browser shouldn't try to second-guess them by modifying images to disobey what the image spec specifies. Not by default anyway. I have no beef with this feature being an extension.
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"Full SVG" doesn't make it entirely clear what you want, given the different versions and profiles. Most web browser developers seem to dislike [dbaron.org] the recent SVG Tiny 1.2, because its design is unsuitable for the web. Mozilla already has bloat problems [mozillazine.org] with their SVG implementation (partly their fault, partly because the spec is large and complex), and some developers want a simpler SVG [vlad1.com] because most people don't actually need SVG - they jus
JavaScript links (Score:5, Insightful)
It's all too often when I middle-click a link to open in a new tab, only to get the tab being "Untitled" and the URL starts with "javascript:". Is it too much to ask that Firefox detect a javascript link and prevent it from opening in a new tab (or window, but usually I catch those), and merely run the javascript?
Lasers, people! (Score:4, Funny)
I've beating this drum for a long time... (Score:2)
Convert Tab To Window (Score:2)
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better "bookmark this page!!!" (Score:3, Insightful)
Active X Support (Score:4, Funny)
My suggestions (Score:3, Insightful)
2.Better ways to find extentions that are leaking resources.
3.If a URL being displayed results in "host not found", "cant contact server" or an error such as 404, it should not be added to the history. Also, URLs should only be added to the history once they get past that step and actually recieve a "200 ok" reply from the server with a piece of data or something. (i.e. if I press escape to cancel loading before it actually loads, it shouldnt go in the history)
4.Bring back MNG support.
5.Better security features. I want to see a world where (once a small amount of initial setup is taken care of), encrypting and/or signing an email is as simple as clicking a button on the email compose form with the program doing the rest. (although this feature is probobly more a thunderbird feature than a firefox feature)
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My two biggest requests would be
1. An option to enable an *ABSOLUTE* restriction on new content windows. Even with the 'pop up blocker' fully enabled some sites still manage to open new windows. I would like these FORCED into new tabs, always, NEVER permitting additional content windows to open (dialogs for FF itself, preferences, etc would still be acceptable)
2. An interative javascript debugger, that includes the ability to run scripts in a 'step mode', override/block the execution of specific js statements (or force conditional branches), and change the contents of variables.
3. An ability to prevent detection of the absence of specific plugins, enabling the user to take control back of media served by websites (eg, "Sorry, you dont have Microsoft DRM-enforcing plugin X, so we wont serve this media to you" - the ability to force the site to just give the URI to the browser, and let the *USER* decide how to retrieve it and what to do with it from there)
DragDrop and Proper Focus/Blur Please!! (Score:5, Interesting)
This is a HUGE issue as it prevents Drag and Drop file uploads for AJAX applications.
Sure, there is a FF Extension to solve this, but requires the user to install for such a behavior to work.
This should be a native solution. Can Firefox please reconsider their stance on this issue?
For years, drag and dropping of files into application windows has been EXPECTED behavior.
Firefox should allow AJAX applications the same sort of functionality.
As it stands, Firefox is the only browser I can not create a strictly script based solution for.
Below is an example. As we can see, the dragdrop event is useless except for preventing the dragdrop event from continuing propagation after we capture it. Also, firefox (on Mac at least) does not properly recognize an onBlur when I click on a non-firefox application window.
onBlur only happens when we click on a 2nd Firefox browser window - bad bad bad.
This and the above dragdrop issue means that Firefox is not properly supporting OS integration.
Addressing these issues would be huge in more robust user experience and application capabilities for AJAX developers.
TIA for your consideration of these points.
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make the search box easier to extend (Score:4, Insightful)
Completely unacceptable, and worst of all, I don't even understand how they even thought that their approach was even remotely necessary.
Better Tab Docking (Score:3, Insightful)
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is a perfectly valid tab configuration. Here, 1 & 3 take up the upper-left quarter and the lower-left quarter of the window respectively. 2 takes the entire right half. With larger monitors becomming the norm, this would be a great enhancement for those who would like to make better use of their horizontal space.
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How to turn PDFs into pop-ups (Score:5, Informative)
To solve this issue, remove the Adobe Reader plug-in from your Firefox plug-ins folder. This will cause Adobe Reader to launch in a separate process with its own window. Or just ditch Adobe Reader and install Foxit Reader, the PDF viewer with less bloat.
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Actually they could move the eat-memory-like-crazy feature into an extension, that way if I ever feel the need to get rid of 1GB of RAM I can just d/l the extension. =/