Recommendations for a 50" (or Larger) Display? 98
An anonymous reader asks: "What display device should I get for a conference room? It can't be a front projection and it should be >= 50" and somewhat slim. If I go plasma, it seems like the burn-in problem could be serious if the unit is used as a monitor -- I don't want to look at either a 'Start' or 'KDE' button until the end of time. LCDs don't impress me since I can only get them in sizes of 45" or less. What about DLP? They make noise, but will it drown out a person trying to make a presentation to a room of 10-20 people? Overall, am I really stuck with a max vertical resolution of 768? Are rear projection LCD's or DLP's slim enough to not dominate a room?"
humm m LCD or DPL projector on to a screen. (Score:4, Informative)
go talk to a local av shop.. or msg me and i will give you part numebrs.. you can do it for a hell of alot lesss than a huge flat screen display..
Re:humm m LCD or DPL projector on to a screen. (Score:2)
Re:humm m LCD or DPL projector on to a screen. (Score:2)
Re:humm m LCD or DPL projector on to a screen. (Score:2)
I dunno...the mixed uses ones are getting MUCH better. I just got an Optima EP739....good contrast ratio...and great even with ambient lighting...
Not to mention between 3000-5000 hours bulb life....
I got the whole thing
Re:humm m LCD or DPL projector on to a screen. (Score:2)
(I have tall ceilings, heh)
DLP (Score:3, Informative)
Agree with the parent (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:1)
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
But if a company is considering spending $3-5k on a projector or TV, they should be prepared to spend a little on maintenance over time.
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
I have a DLP problem - I'm all ready to plunk down some $$$ on a DLP projector for home theater but my wife is in that 2% or so of the population that sees the elusive "rainbow effect". Any advice? I have heard that the rainbow effect is from the light hitting the edges of the mirrors as they flip and there's no help for those folks that see it. But I've also heard it's from the intersections of the color wheel a
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:3, Funny)
Probably easier to get a new wife. There's a pool of about 3 billion women out there, so I'm sure one of them will meet your criteria for wifehood, and not be so fucken sensitive to shit like rainbow effects or wheat gluten.
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:4, Funny)
-Jar.
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
That's why you never marry them!! At the very worst....just live with them, it is kind of like leasing with an option to buy....
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
Just get an LCD projector... (Score:2)
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
Actually, Samsung and a company called NuVision are due to be shipping LED-backlit DLP sets this year. They use 3 colors of LEDs instead of a single bulb. This significantly increases the longevity of the backlight, reduces power consumption, obviates much of the need for audible cooling, and supposedly eliminates the rainbow effect.
I want one badly, but my HDTV needs are currently fulfilled,
Re:Agree with the parent (Score:2)
If you're really serious (Score:3, Informative)
They used to reside at http://www.go-l.com/ [go-l.com] but that seems to be defunct now. Last I checked they had one that was even bigger (5 1600x1200 monitors in one I believe), but since it's gone, I'm not entirely sure what it was called.
A teaser http://www.primidi.com/2003/09/25.html [primidi.com] (that's a Roland link, sadly) for now though
Re:If you're really serious (Score:1)
Re:If you're really serious (Score:2)
The
all you need to know (nearly) (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, and http://www.google.com/ [google.com] as well. Amazing what information is out there.
And for everything else theres... (Score:2)
DLP/D-ILA/LCOS/RPLCD (Score:3, Interesting)
None of these items will be as sleek as a direct-view plasma or LCD, but none of them will approach the room-dominating size of an old-school CRT RPTV either. They also won't be inexpensive, though compared to direct-view plasma and LCD units in similar sizes (BTW- Sharp actually does sell LCDs in the 50+" range) they'll be at least competitive and often much cheaper.
Finally, "burn-in" isn't an issue with any of these technologies, though each can have its quirks (for example, some people are sensitive to the DLP "rainbow" effect, though supposedly it has been minimized in the latest 1080p sets).
Re:DLP/D-ILA/LCOS/RPLCD (Score:1)
Re:DLP/D-ILA/LCOS/RPLCD (Score:2)
The only way I've managed to get reasonable performance is from a DVI-HDMI cable and the fact that my NVidia card has Overscan correction (the TV itself only has underscan correction)
Hope your experience with the 50" is better.
Re:DLP/D-ILA/LCOS/RPLCD (Score:1)
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DLP considerations (Score:5, Interesting)
Rear projection DLP is pretty good, and is less expensive than its alternatives. Whether or not it's appropriate for your requirements is up to you.
I just went to Samsung's site and selected the first rear projection DLP monitor that was over 50". I got this [samsung.com]. Whether or not it's too deep is up to you. Samsung is claiming 16.3" deep in their specifications. Some are thinner than others though. As far as noise goes, manufacturers seem to be listening to what their customers want and are competing to make quieter units. You may want to go to a showroom and hear what kind of noise these produce. Also, plug a laptop into a few to see what your presentations look like.
It has been estimated that about 5% of people experience what is known as the DLP Rainbow Effect [wikipedia.org], where some viewers can see flashes of color separation on the edges of high contrast edges. To minimize this, manufacturers are speeding up color wheels and adding more segments to effectively increase the color wheel speed. As DLP chips become cheaper, I believe that we will begin seeing 3-chip solutions enter the consumer market to completely eliminate the issue. In any case, the rainbow effect is something that you may want to keep in mind when you consider whether or not to use DLP.
Re:DLP considerations (Score:1)
5% doesn't sound like much, but if there are ten people in the room, there's a 40% chance that at least one of them is going to get the almighty headache that accompanies staring at the rainbow effects for more than a minute or so.
If you have to go rear-projection, then Sony's 52" SXRD is very good value, and does 1920x1080, rather than the 1360x768 that the original questioner was worried about.
Re:DLP considerations (Score:2)
Re:DLP considerations (Score:2)
what abou LCOS? (Score:3, Interesting)
the 50" should be available in the next week or so. they have a 55 and 60 inch projected to launch in the near future. there are a few reviews [cnet.com] available with a quick google search [google.com], but for the most part, people are waiting (and anxious) to see this new model.
I think (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N8
Dimensions : 18" deep. Unless your conference room is exceptionally crowded, a foot and a half shouldn't make any difference.
And best of all, plug in a high definition disk player and watch HD movies, or an Xbox 360.
Or, connect a PC up and the onscreen text readable since this is more of a monitor than a television.
Re:I think (Score:2)
Another benefit - the unit only weighs 99 lbs. So, while it's awkward, it's definitely moveable by two people. He and I carried it down the steps at his place.
DLP (Score:1)
Projector (Score:2)
It's called rear projection... (Score:2)
Check with the companies (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Check with the companies (Score:2)
Re:Check with the companies (Score:2)
HP 58" or 65" Microdisplay (Score:2)
Not sure what your budget is, but a 58" inch version is also available.
Re:HP 58" or 65" Microdisplay (Score:1)
Re:HP 58" or 65" Microdisplay (Score:1)
See http://antiqueradio.org//trium01.htm [antiqueradio.org] for an elderly one.
Wobulation (Score:3, Informative)
Read about it at PopSci online [popsci.com]
Re:HP 58" or 65" Microdisplay (Score:1)
LCD (Score:1)
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS5797D
I have a 32' lcd TV from Samsung and I've been really impressed.
Or maybe even a 65" LCD (Score:2)
Re:Or maybe even a 65" LCD (Score:1)
Its sort of subjective but I'd prefer the Samsung model.
Re:LCD (Score:3, Funny)
I'd be very impressed to have a 32-foot lcd TV, as well. I knew Samsung was starting to make some big ones, but jeez, I'd have to get a bigger house for one of those bad boys.
Re:LCD (Score:2, Funny)
Re:LCD (Score:1)
DLP.. or projector (Score:2)
If you've been waiting to buy a fancy DLP because the prices are astronomical.. looks like they might just be starting to come down. Tigerdirect has a Samsung HL-R5078W [tigerdirect.com] 50" DLP with 1080p (yes, real 1080p!) for a mere $1600. Plus you can watch broadcast HDTV with the built-in tuner when no one's looking :)
Barring that, I'd go for a nice projector and a screen. Personally, I'm not such a huge fan of projectors, but they can be good with a proper setup (big, flat, custom-installed screen, everything alig
Yes BIG LCD's Exist... Sharp 65 inch LCD LC-65D90U (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Yes BIG LCD's Exist... Sharp 65 inch LCD LC-65D (Score:2)
Sharp also sells the PN-655U [sharpusa.com], another 65" 1080p LCD.
Burn-in (Score:2)
You only have to worry about burn-in with plasma, CRT, and (supposedly) projection LCD. Direct & projection CRT is a dying technology. Projection LCD is hard to find. All you really need to do is to avoid plasma, and you'll be fine on burn-in.
Re:Burn-in (Score:2)
Re:Yes BIG LCD's Exist... Sharp 65 inch LCD LC-65D (Score:1)
Another possibility (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Another possibility (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Another possibility (Score:2)
Ah, so it is more about people looking at you, than it is about what you are presenting - look at me, I am head monkey here!
People also don't want to hold up their notebook, point to a little dot, and hope everyone sees the same in front of their monitors - they want to point at a big screen and show th
Re:Another possibility (Score:2)
Re:Another possibility (Score:2)
And drawbacks include people being able to play Solitaire and chat on Instant Messenger instead of paying attention, and the difficulty of collaboration when you have to tell every person "halfway down the page, second-to-rightmost column" instead of simply pointing the appropriate area on the Big Screen.
Re:Another possibility (Score:2)
Screensaver? Autohide? (Score:1)
I like the Panasonics... (Score:1)
They are brighter and have a higher contrast than the DLP's which means if you're in a board room with flourescent lights, then it will be easier to see around the room. 3000:1 Contrast ratio is just cool. It also comes in a 61" flavour.
If you haven't considered projection as an alternative, you could always go for an Optoma front projector. They are very very cool. Half of their lineup doesn't go under 3500:1 contrast ratio, with most around 4500:1, an
Sony SXRD rear projection displays (Score:1)
They are all 1080p 3 chip rear projection lcos based displays with a 10,000:1 contrast ratio. They all have an HDMI input will actually accept a 1080p signal (all
Get a bigger vehicle... (Score:2)
Re:Get a bigger vehicle... (Score:2)
Re:Get a bigger vehicle... (Score:2)
However, I still wonder why many people, who usually have at least two cars, never make a truck one of them. It doesn't have to be a big truck, either - a small Ford Ranger, a Nissan Frontier - hell, even an old Datsun - and you can handle 90% of the loads you will ever likely come across, even as a homeowner.
No, you won't be moving big loads of rock or brick with such a small truck, but you can haul w
Re:Get a bigger vehicle... (Score:2)
My suggestion (Score:1)
Also, if you take him home, you can watch TV/DVD with it
How dark is the room? (Score:2)
Another potential option is to use something like a 42" displa
I must be getting old.. (Score:1)
I'm going backwards. Ten years ago I had a full Dolby Digital (or AC3 as it was back then) surround system, laserdisc player and a 40inch back projector. Now I'm stuck with an el-cheapo DVD player and a 30inch LCD screen and just the TV's built in speakers. I think the cause was wife & kids...
Try a Westinghouse LVM-47W1 (Score:1)
They're
Sharp has 65" FullHD LCD's (Score:2)
Wait for LED DLP (Score:3, Informative)
Short throw (Score:4, Informative)
Don't give up on front projection until you at least learn a little bit about short throw options. There are front projection systems that can deliver 100" diagonal images in as little as 2' (NEC WT610). If you are projecting from the ceiling to a 60" screen, you could be standing riciculously close (e.g. closer than one usually stands next to a wall) and not even cast a shadow.
Re:Short throw (Score:2)
With a moderately high gain screen this will give you plenty of brightness even with the lights on in a conference room.
HP MD5880n 58" 1080p DLP TV (Score:2)
These TVs accept a 1080p signal over HDMI. I currently run ADC->DV
DLP all the way (Score:1)
Samsung, Mitsubishi and Toshiba all have reliable DLP screens. I'd recommend Mitsubishi for an office environment strictly because of the numerous connections Mitsubi