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MySpace Down Due To Power Surge 448

BenelliShooter writes "MySpace.Com - Undergoing Maintenance "hey everyone! there's been a power outage in our data center. we're in the process of fixing it right now, so sit tight. -Tom" That about says it... I suppose we'll see if they had proper back-ups. " Hah. The site says it was supposed to be back up as of ... 7:40 PST PM. Which was something like close to nine hours ago.
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MySpace Down Due To Power Surge

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  • Wow... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rizzo320 ( 911761 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:43AM (#15768694)
    There must be something more to this. Wouldn't a site with this many subscribers be co-located?
    • Re:Wow... (Score:3, Funny)

      by abscissa ( 136568 )
      There must be something more to this. Wouldn't a site with this many subscribers be co-located?

      Subscribers? You mean the people who aren't paying anything to meet teeny-boppers, shut ins, and FBI agents online?
      • Re:Wow... (Score:5, Funny)

        by diersing ( 679767 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:11AM (#15768889)
        In a related story, the available bandwidth on campuses around the world has suddenly freed up.
        • Re:Wow... (Score:4, Interesting)

          by cwtrex ( 912286 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:38AM (#15769107) Journal
          this guy needs a rating "funny because it's true" Working at a community college, it is ridiculous to walk through the computer labs and see how many students are surfing on myspace alone ... and this isn't a quick 3 minute look and go some where else surfing attitude either. My dept has a student worker that is on myspace almost all day (not much of a worker lol). Anyway, with all the music, large pictures, music videos, and now personal videos being posted and looked at I am very much glad for our network today that it has some breathing room. (btw, I do have the day off :-p)
      • Re:Wow... (Score:3, Insightful)

        You're implying that myspace doesn't get anything from its subscribers, when it does. They make tons of money on the advertisements you click on or see. All those sites that integrate with it also contribute money to myspace. Those teenieboppers spend good money and myspace gets the advertising revenue for it.
    • by rs232 ( 849320 )
      Wouldn't a data centre have a number of UPS [jetcafe.org] and a standby generator? I figure they did an 'upgrade' that didn't take.
      • They claim their generators failed to kick in. That actually happened at a Web site company I worked for. One day we had a power outage and our back up generators tried to kick in, but for some reason weren't charged enough, so instead they failed and started smoking. So everyones computers went down. Luckily they store all the sites on several servers in multiple places across the US. So the customers weren't affected. We got to go home though. "Hey McFly, those computers don't work unless you have power!"
    • Just looking at the site you can see that very minimal thought went into the design. I can only imagine that LESS thought went into the infrastructure supporting that ugly abomination.
      • Re:Wow... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Billosaur ( 927319 ) * <{wgrother} {at} {optonline.net}> on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:42AM (#15769136) Journal

        It's pretty obvious that the idea behind MySpace was more to generate buzz than to actually run an efficient IT organization and world-class site. It grew from a little thing into a gigantic thing too fast for the developers and infrastructure people to adjust their mentality to the large scale. If the whole site is down, that means no rendundant data centers or colocations, or even worldwide coverage. A site can't grow as large as they have while neglecting the fundamentals.

  • Huh? (Score:5, Funny)

    by The MAZZTer ( 911996 ) <megazzt@NoSpaM.gmail.com> on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:43AM (#15768695) Homepage
    I don't understand where there's a problem. >.>
    • Re:Huh? (Score:5, Funny)

      by ettlz ( 639203 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:55AM (#15768787) Journal
      The problem is some bugger out there put the plug back in.
    • Re:Huh? (Score:2, Insightful)

      by saboola ( 655522 )
      No doubt the person who marked this Flamebait enjoys using such wonderful html tags as blink and has a direct interest in using white text on a yellow background with an embedded mp3 of Britney Spears on loop.
    • Re:Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by prell ( 584580 )
      I realize Myspace.com is a big website, but how is this news? If MySpace is down due to being bombed, then okay, I want to read about that. But otherwise, I don't really consider this newsworthy.
      • "I realize Myspace.com is a big website, but how is this news? If MySpace is down due to being bombed, then okay, I want to read about that. But otherwise, I don't really consider this newsworthy."

        But... but.. but.. we all hate MySpace and want to read about every misstep it takes!

        Sometimes I think of Slashdot as Jerry Springer for nerds.
    • Re:Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Blakey Rat ( 99501 )
      You know what pisses me off?

      Go back 10 years, when everyone was talking about the Internet revolution. Remember that? It was going to be great! Everyone can publish their thoughts, make their own site, share photos with their friends, instantly contact anybody!

      And now that it's happened thanks to sites like MySpace, LiveJournal, blogs, etc... suddenly everyone's saying, "oh those people are all idiots, they shouldn't be allowed to make websites!"

      In short; STFU, you elitist assholes. Sites like MySpace
      • Re:Huh? (Score:5, Funny)

        by Mister Whirly ( 964219 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @10:20AM (#15769840) Homepage
        I think you got it wrong. The only reason for the Internet is so I can be an elitist asshole...
      • Re:Huh? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by QuantumFTL ( 197300 ) * <justin.wick@gma i l . c om> on Monday July 24, 2006 @12:18PM (#15770782)
        We live in an age where, due to widely-held populist views, and political correctness, it is a "sin" to act in a manner that is supposedly "elitist." Now my question is, what precisely is wrong with believing that people have different potentials, and contribute different amounts to society? Most of the great inventions in history were not created by common folk - they were created by people who were excellent in some way. Very intelligent, very wealthy, or maybe just very, very persistant. These uncommon qualities lead to uncommon acheivement, and most of us owe our lives to them (without modern technology, most of us wouldn't have lived to see 20, or maybe even 2).

        I think the reason for all this elitism towards places like myspace, livejournal, etc from /.ers is because we once believed that the "democratization" of this medium would lead to a renessaince, would be a life-changing event and would open the floodgates on good content. The problem is not that most people should not be allowed to post on the internet (that is ridiculous), but that most people really do not have anything to say that is valuable to anyone other than their friends. Because their audience is so narrow, the "value added" for the internet as a whole is very small compared to amount of noise this generates. Add to this the amount of bloggers who believe their insights are unique and wonderful (and yet are absolutely not) and the signal to noise ratio on the internet goes way down. I think many people on slashdot feel let down by this, it has made them more cynical about the masses.

        Not everyone has some brilliant insight to share with others - I know I sure don't, which is why I don't run a blog. I think myspace is great if you're a kid, and people should respect this, but I'd love to be able to tell google to ignore things like myspace/livejournal etc when conducting searches (by default rather than something I must do manually).

        So perhaps the "elitist" /.ers are going too far in saying something like this shouldn't exist, but really, what is so very wrong about being "elitist."
        • Re:Huh? (Score:3, Interesting)

          by smilinggoat ( 443212 )
          Myspace is a fantastic tool for the professional artist. I am a musician and it is now the prefered method of booking gigs and making contacts within the industry. It is allowing many artists to flourish and grow in ways which were not as viral or rapid as before. That is the renaissance you speak of. It is alive, it is well, and it is good.

          On a side note, now that Myspace has become a huge force in the music scene, and many people are relying upon it to help them meet ends, there needs to be greater r
  • by Tet ( 2721 ) <slashdotNO@SPAMastradyne.co.uk> on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:43AM (#15768698) Homepage Journal
    So, I see two possiblities here. Either they're lying about the reason for the downtime, or they're uttlerly inept. According to the most recent figures I've seen, MySpace is the most visited site on the Internet for US surfers, and the 6th most visited site on the net worldwide. Are you seriously telling me that they don't have redundant datacentres?

    Hell, with a fairly limited budget, I set up two datacentres in an active/active configuration for the last bank I worked at, and that was only handling a 10 million hits a day. It took a while to get the database replication working right, but once we'd done that, it was all fine, and gave protection against total datacentre failure[1]. MySpace is way larger that we were, and they can certainly afford multiple datacentres to prevent an outage such as this. So why didn't they? As I said, the only explanations I can see are ineptitude, or that they're using this as an excuse to mask some other reason for the outage...

    [1] Not that a power failure should ever happen in a datacentre anyway. All of the ones I've used have had multiple power feeds from different suppliers, entering on opposite sides of the building, plus redundant UPSes with diesel generators for when the UPS runs out. If you're still having power outages with that sort of infrastructure in place, then something's seriously wrong. And if you don't have that sort of infrastructure in place, then you've chosen the wrong datacentre.

    • by Turn-X Alphonse ( 789240 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:50AM (#15768740) Journal
      If a bank goes down you have major problems, if a social networking site goes down someone might not be able to reply to a message and misses a night getting drunk. You have to remember these arn't the same type of things and so majorly backing up MySpace isn't going to do MySpace any real favours. Where as a bank it's basic common sense.

      Remember when Livejournal went down? It didn't make a jot of difference now several months later.
    • Not that a power failure should ever happen in a datacentre anyway. All of the ones I've used have had multiple power feeds from different suppliers, entering on opposite sides of the building
      Where do you live that has more than one power supplier?
      • Madison, WI, for one thing (and that's not even a big city): Alliant Energy and MG&E. Also, we can get multiple feeds from different plants from the same supplier.
        • I'll bet both those suppliers are

          a) on the same grid
          b) vunerable to the same SPFs
        • by GNU(slash)Nickname ( 761984 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:03AM (#15768834)
          Lemme get this straight...

          You live in a city with redundant power grids? There are actually competing power distribution networks, with diversely routed feeders?

          Apparently, Enron was useful for something after all.

          • by myth24601 ( 893486 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:19AM (#15768943)
            I can understand having power feed the building from two points and even two seperate dmarks for network connectivity. This would protect you from a failure in one part of your building and maybe even from an overzealous backhoe operator or goundskeeper on your property.

            The problem that I could see would be the overzealous backhoe operator down the street where all your power/network stuff ends up going allong the same roadside. Worked somwhere with the dual demark think setup.

              I worked in a place that had two buldings connected with a walkway so we ran two of our four T1 lines from one ISP and two from another ISP through the other building but all the lines were in the same ditch half a mile down the road.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:55AM (#15768789)
      When your site pushes 40+ GBit/s of traffic, and has tens of TB of data in those databases, then you can talk shit. Until then, you should probably shut the hell up.

      As a professional in this industry, I can tell you from experience that redundancy at this scale is NOT easy, nor is it inexpensive even for someone as big as MySpace or Fox. Add to that the explosive growth that MySpace is constantly experiencing, and this is much harder than it sounds when you're also trying to keep up with existing growth.

      I can additionally tell you that I happen to know what data center they're in. The problem was not a simple power failure. The data center's UPS also failed, which took out the HVAC units. 120 degrees in a data center is not good for hardware.

      No, it's not a happy situation, but things like this do happen from time to time.

      -AC (ironically, the captcha for this post was 'coo1ing'.)
      • by dattaway ( 3088 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:06AM (#15768857) Homepage Journal
        I do refrigeration for a large food wharehouse. When our power went out, we trucked in a 3000KVA generator and bolted the cables into our switchgear. When your business depends on power, you know how to make calls and get it QUICKLY. It cost us 120 gallons of diesel per hour, but we would have had a catastrophic loss without it.
        • I do refrigeration for a large food wharehouse. When our power went out, we trucked in a 3000KVA generator and bolted the cables into our switchgear.

          Presumably if your power feed wasn't originally set up for easy switching between mains and generator it is now...

          When your business depends on power, you know how to make calls and get it QUICKLY. It cost us 120 gallons of diesel per hour, but we would have had a catastrophic loss without it.

          Depends where you get your fuel from. Diesel for construction/a
    • by mail_stripper ( 952748 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:19AM (#15768942)
      I work in a datacenter in the building where MySpace keeps their servers, near downtown LA.

      I can confirm that they/we had a power outage @ saturday after 6pm , and another one sunday. Needless to say there were a shit-ton of engineers here, some of them bringing in their children, wives, pets(redundant?), etc. I was here for nearly 13 hours after the power outage.

      The building provides 'UPS' to all of the tenants, and has *massive* diesel generators as well. Only problem - the failover system failed. This is the second time that this building's "UPS/Generator" system failed at a critical time - the last time was Sept 12th last year during the big ol' blackout ( http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/la.power.outage/ [cnn.com] ).

      Nonworking generators *suck*.

      I suppose establishing a properly redundant infrastructure is made more difficult with such an exponential rise in popularity. But then again, excuses *suck*.
      • "The building provides 'UPS' to all of the tenants, and has *massive* diesel generators as well. Only problem - the failover system failed. This is the second time that this building's "UPS/Generator" system failed at a critical time - the last time was Sept 12th last year during the big ol' blackout"
        Boy that is just wrong.
        I used to work for a hospital back when I was in college. Once a month we tested the backup power systems for the IT department. Life critical systems where on a differn't system. Those g
      • It always kills me when things like this happen because the backup systems aren't tested on a regular basis. ANY generator -- from the massive ones that can power datacenters to those little camping jobbies with two AC outlets on them -- should be run regularly under some form of load to ensure that when they're needed they still function.

        Many generators, in fact, have an automatic "exercise" function that will kick them on at least once a month, run for about 15-30 minutes, and shut off. Any failure to sta
      • If this datacenter has any customers after having two generator failures in less than twelve months, I'm going to move to L.A. and start selling datacenter services. Apparently, folks in L.A. just aren't that bright. Seriously, why would anyone stay there?
    • "...plus redundant UPSes with diesel generators for when the UPS runs out."

      More likely, the UPS is the bridge that runs the place between when utility power drops and until the generators can take the load.

      The ginormous UPS at my datacenter can run the whole 23,000 sq feet for about 15 minutes. It takes about 2.5 minutes for the gens to get going.
    • You can have all the backup systems you want (Multiple power feeds, UPSs, generators, etc) and still have a power failure in you datacenter. I was a *nix systems admin at a telecom company when we started having power outages on a daily basis. Turns out all of the backup systems worked fine but the circuit breakers that had been installed were the wrong amperage rating. The power flux when the generator or UPS kicked in was enough to trip the breakers. Took our site engineers almost a month to figure th
    • I work for a company that rents space in the same building as myspace. The big selling point for the building was that they would handle all that for us; they (supposedly anyways, the last year or so has shown otherwise) have massive battery banks and generators for all the downstairs colo suites. This building also has a number of banks which rely on the same facilities for various operations, like check and payment processing. I've got a feeling that there is going to be some serious head rolling when all
  • Crackspace (Score:5, Insightful)

    by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohn@gm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:43AM (#15768699) Journal
    I use this to maintain loose connections with friends from highschool/college.

    Honestly, you know how addictive this site is if someone posts a story about it going offline to Slashdot and it's accepted!

    That site was making some crazy loads of cash. The advertising department was saying "we need web traffic!" and the developers were saying "oh, we'll get you web traffic!" and now the hardware department is saying "wtf?"

    Perhaps MySpace should be renamed to IcarusSpace?
    • Honestly, you know how addictive this site is if someone posts a story about it going offline to Slashdot and it's accepted!

      No, it just means Myspace and Slashdot have similar demographics, which is sad (for Slashdot).
  • by Matt Edd ( 884107 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:44AM (#15768701)
    It went down at the same time my UPS decided to explode. I was on the internet at the time. I must have broke it.
  • All I got (Score:3, Informative)

    by varmittang ( 849469 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:44AM (#15768703)
    The Function that you are currently trying to use is disabled and will be back shortly.
    We are making some minor changes to this section please bear with us until we can get this back online.
    Please do NOT email me about this. Just wait it out. 7/24/2006 -Tom
  • by blcamp ( 211756 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:44AM (#15768706) Homepage

    Ironic... When I first clicked the story link here on /. I got the "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along." page.

    Kinda like MySpace itself. Too funny.

  • by falcon5768 ( 629591 ) <Falcon5768@@@comcast...net> on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:45AM (#15768710) Journal
    The site went down sat night, came back up then went down again sunday night. The page saying it would be back up is actually from when it went down Saturday.
  • by wish bot ( 265150 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:46AM (#15768717)
    How long until this becomes a reality, at least for people who can't afford Akamai (surely Myspace could...?)
  • Backups... (Score:5, Funny)

    by lxt ( 724570 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:46AM (#15768719) Journal
    ...am I the only one praying they *don't* have proper backups?
  • Other sites (Score:5, Informative)

    by Council ( 514577 ) <rmunroe AT gmail DOT com> on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:46AM (#15768724) Homepage
    I notice that both Questionable Content and Penny Arcade are also down this morning. Someone suggested to me that they were all at the same datacenter. Is this true?

    Even though it could just as easily happen to me, it's still satisfying to say "haha, n00bs".

    Although I also note that the datacenter holding my server has on-property generators, which I assumed was pretty standard practice.
  • CrySpace (Score:5, Funny)

    by digitaldc ( 879047 ) * on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:47AM (#15768725)
    Obi-Tom: I felt a great disturbance in MySpace, as if millions of emo kids suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
  • by Turn-X Alphonse ( 789240 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:47AM (#15768726) Journal
    Well done Hemos, you just gave everyone another chance to slag off MySpace. People need to remember that just because something isn't for them (we have our blogs people), that is isn't instantly lame. Sure the web designs suck and 90% of the people there are guys just out for vaginal offering (like slashdot would be any different if it had women).

    Just remember, not everyone has the same values as Slashdot. A lot of the people on MySpace don't care if it's ugly or poorly written because they're having fun. Now as much as we geeks like to claim to be superior to everything short of the pope riding a giant panda, we need to learn to accept others values even if we don't take them.

    MySpace's subtitle should be "The social person's easy-blog" and maybe geeks here would grasp it's name better, but wouldn't that be dumbing it down so a geek would understand it? Hmmm....
  • Hear that? (Score:2, Funny)

    by cbqwinner ( 152547 )
    That's the sound of thousands of emo kids crying because myspace is out. I can only imagine all the catch up posts.
  • This is not at all uncommon for MySpace. I agree with some of the
    previous comments; One of the most visited websites in the world should
    know something about redundancy, no? Well, they should also be able to
    make 'updates' without taking services offline, which they seem to do
    every other day. MySpace isn't exactly known for its speed either. It is
    running ASP code on IIS servers. That probably has a more than a little
    to do with it. One thing is for sure: Tom is NOT my friend.
  • by objekt ( 232270 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @07:53AM (#15768769) Homepage
    Anyone got a mirror of myspace?

  • Whatever shall we do? I guess read slashdot.

    OH, and first post.
  • Hmm.. seems to be working with a direct link to the homepage [myspace.com]...
  • I felt... (Score:2, Funny)

    by Funakoshi ( 925826 )
    a great disturbance in the Space, as if millions of camera-whoring teenagers suddnley cried out in terror...
  • by creimer ( 824291 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:08AM (#15768870) Homepage
    Kids, while mySpace is down and out, please visit your parents, greet the yellow light in the great blue room, and take a dip at the swimming pool. There's more to life than hanging out at a website. Enjoy your freedom while it lasts!
  • Coming from someone born and living in Europe:

    When I see any mention of myspace, do you know what comes to my mind? Metal music bands. Music is huge in myspace! It's about the only thing I've ever seen there, band profiles including songs available for streaming (and sometimes downloading) and other stuff. So until recently I thought it was a website for bands. Seems I was terribly mistaken and it's more like to USA what hi5 is to Europe? Or worse, seeing how badly people speak about it here at /. ... But f
    • Yeah thats what most people I know use it for as well, my bands myspace gets twice as many hits per month as our registered domain so its a great promotional tool. Most people use it as a social aid rather than to replace social interaction...but of course for many here they won't be able to see that side of it.
    • Re:Time I said this (Score:5, Informative)

      by bsartist ( 550317 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:54AM (#15769218) Homepage
      That's why I first joined - I have several friends whose bands have pages there.

      The irony of it is that MySpace is a great way for non-RIAA bands to promote themselves and network with other bands, finding new places to play, organizing shows, etc. Slashbots continually harp about how bands should be doing that kind of thing, bypassing the RIAA in favor of self-promotion - but when the bands actually start having a little success in doing so, the slashbots all line up to rag on them for it.
  • It WAS back up. Then they took it back down again. It first went down early sunday morning, was back up for part of the day on sunday, and then went back down sometime sunday evening (PST).
  • OMG (Score:2, Funny)

    by ksjfhdsalf ( 892941 )
    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

    I"m fReaAKing OUT!!!! This cant be happening.

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
  • by arthurpaliden ( 939626 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:17AM (#15768926)
    And here I thought it was because everyone, myself included, was testing the MySpace Data Mining tools released on Freshmeat last night.
  • "We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. We have been advised that the problem has been isolated and that the issue would be solved soon. For quality's sake, our administrators tend to spend a slightly longer time investigating the root cause of an issue to completely fix it, rather than merely applying a temporary/unsafe fix, we've taken every possible step to ensure that this does not happen again."
  • ...millions of emo kids go sit in the corner and cry.
  • by oahazmatt ( 868057 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:21AM (#15768961) Journal
    Tom logged in to his own account, realized that everyone had taken him out of their friends list, screamed like a woman, ran into the server room (flapping his arms about as he did so), grabbed the main fiber, and with a scream of "If I can't have them, no one can!" pulled with all his might.
  • Best. Power surge. Ever.

    I noticed it at midnight last night, when I tried to load Cobra Starship [cobrastarship.com]'s myspace page. It provided a nice impetus to get off my butt and go to bed. :)
  • adware (Score:2, Insightful)

    by disparue ( 990665 )
    This may have to do with the banner exploit that appeared across who knows how many myspace profiles. http://news.com.com/2061-10789_3-6097156.html [com.com]
  • by brianjcain ( 622084 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:29AM (#15769027) Journal
  • The shields are down, now is the time for attack.
  • 6:40pm PST (Score:3, Interesting)

    by JCholewa ( 34629 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:34AM (#15769067) Homepage
    The message I got when I visited there (and this is a coincidence, since I don't use my MySpace account except when a friend on another site specifically needs me to, in this case to check out an unrelated technical problem): "hey everyone! there's been a power outage in our data center. we're in the process of fixing it right now, so sit tight. hopefully we'll be back online within the hour. its 6:40pm PST now. wanna place a bet? -Tom"

    When I reloaded half an hour later, "Tom" had removed the "its 6:40pm PST now. wanna place a bet?" part. I guess they knew they were having problems that'd take a while.
  • by igb ( 28052 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:34AM (#15769072)
    ...cried out in vague angsty alarm, and suddenly were silenced.
  • You know what....WHO CARES! :D You know there was a TON of sites down over the weekend. Yahoo instant messenger was among them too.....my brother and I were unable to connect to Yahoo Instant Messenger....no sweat....we have this thing called a PHONE!

  • by Tim C ( 15259 ) on Monday July 24, 2006 @08:41AM (#15769129)
    When commenting, logging in, etc was broken here a week or so ago, we didn't even get an official announcement about it after the fact, let alone a "hopefully all will be fixed by..." page.

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