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MySpace's Trip to The Top 126

One of yesterday's most commented stories was the report that MySpace.com has recently topped the charts for at least one measure of Internet popularity — site visits, as measured by Web-metrics company Hitwise. Along with a hefty dose of scorn for the actual content driving those page views (and some challenges to the conventional wisdom about MySpace's audience), readers expressed respect — not all of it grudging — for the reasons that MySpace has succeeded as it has. The 360-plus comments readers contributed to the story add interesting insights as well as information about the backend system which supports all those pageviews. Read on for the Backslash summary of the conversation.

To the objection raised by reader extra the woos ("I find this difficult to believe. I would think that Google would have more visits than MySpace, for sure."), MattHawk provides a reason why those sites are difficult to compare: "Google's design is lightweight. MySpace does not even pretend to suffer from this convenience. Google might very well account for more unique visitors, but MySpace makes up for the visitors by having each page view result in a significantly greater amount of bandwidth usage. Not to mention, if Google is working in its optimum capacity, it minimizes page views mdash; if you only load the front page, and then find what you're looking on in the first page of search results, it doesn't generate many page hits."

Before getting deeper into the comments, though, a contribution from reader wh0pper on the same topic of accuracy in MySpace's site statistics is worth considering; thanks to selective data presentation, he writes, the recent ranking numbers could be wrong. "According to Yahoo!, HitWise compared all of MySpace's traffic numbers to only one of Yahoo's subdomains: mail. Yahoo claims they get 129 million unique visitors a month. The article goes on to state that 'the bottom line is that, unless research firms of all stripes disclose the data they use to conduct their analyses (along with their methodologies and tools) taking the 'facts' of these reports — or the subsequent retorts — at face value is not a big improvement over studying steaming sheep entrails under giddy, sputtering torchlight.'"

Not all the visitors on MySpace are actual people, either. Reader micheas wants to know "What percentage of the traffic is bots?" He explains "I received 55 friend requests today mdash; none of them from real people. (Well, I haven't looked at all of them, but the few I clicked on were from profiles that identified themselves as 18-22 single female, and all had lots of male 'friends' they all more or less looked like ads for dating services, promos for bands, etc.) ... It is kind of interesting that MySpace seems to hold up under all the spam, even though they don't seem to do much about it (or are at least losing the war badly)."

Reader l3v1 scoffs at the claim in the originally linked article that MySpace has "[seen] a 4300% increase in visits in just two short years," writing "Like that would mean anything. Anyway, a few more dozen Slashdot [posts] about MySpace and that figure could easily go to about twohundredgazillion percent."

However they're calculated (or generated), the numbers are nonetheless huge. Reader gluecode writes "I speak to the person who runs their (MySpace's) ad servers, every week. He tells me that they average 3.7 billion page views per day. They run a custom version of the Doubleclick 5 ad servers, almost 400 of these servers. But they have a issue of how to monetize this traffic. They are trying to find ways to do that. They have a lot of junk ad inventory. I hear that they are getting very much into the mobile space in the US and internationally mdash; video blogging, photo blogging etc. This way they can make at least two dollars per user month over mobile services. On another note, Microsoft is working with them very closely to convert their server farm from Cold Fusion to ASP.Net 2.0."

Reader Timbotronic comments on the note about switching to ASP.Net: "This is an interesting one. MySpace is written in ColdFusion but actually runs on the .NET version of BlueDragon [ newatlanta.com]. BlueDragon is a .NET (or Java) application that runs ColdFusion code as an alternative to Adobe's ColdFusion server. So what we have currently is a situation where:

  1. Adobe can't really claim that MySpace is running ColdFusion because it's running in .NET on a competitor's server not theirs and
  2. Microsoft isn't really crowing about MySpace running .NET because it's written in a competitor's language.
Not surprising that they're 'working closely' to fix that!"

Reader Gord laments for practical reasons the "bandwidth wastage" resulting from MySpace's popularity, writing "MySpace users accounted for nearly 10% (2GB) of my bandwidth usage last month from my general webserving box. Mostly by people using a direct link to a 4MB image for their background image. Fortunately this has been largely mitigated with an apache rewrite redirecting MySpace users to a polite message asking them to stop. However, this leads me to wonder how much bandwidth MySpace is sucking from non-MySpace servers just so users can have pretty background pages and other assorted images. Helping support Rupert Murdoch isn't something I'm happy to waste bandwidth on."

Other readers have their own reasons for negative views of the MySpace phenomenon. Reader eplossl, for instance, calls the site's success "worrisome," because "people don't seem to understand how potentially dangerous this is. Consider the sheer volume of details some people (read: children) put on their MySpace accounts. Parents should police this, but, all too often, they don't. The fact is that this service presents all too much possibility for children to get hurt. Consider also the single women all over who post their info online. Some of them realize that they shouldn't post that they live alone in an apartment in south-central LA, but others would very quickly post this sort of thing. Unfortunately, this again puts people at risk."

Reader caitsith01 speaks for many with an evaluation of MySpace as "for the most part intensely narcissistic and inane," and writes "People are presented with a tool for publishing absolutely anything, about any topic they choose. Instead of presenting thoughtful, creative or otherwise valuable content, the vast majority elect to pointlessly ramble about themselves in minute detail or engage in endless back and forth with other users about nothing in particular. Which is fine, but it shouldn't have the legitimacy of other web content. [...] Perhaps it's time to move past the blog hype and to consider some method for differentiating personal diaries (i.e., what used to be a personal homepage), social chit chat (i.e., what used to be a bulletin board, IRC, or IM activity), and publications with actual content. Right now the net is awash with an ever-expanding tide of rubbish and there is very little to assist in finding the few really interesting and high quality publications among the garbage. Ultimately it's depressing that, given the ability to communicate our ideas to anyone on earth, most of us can't come up with anything better than pictures of ourselves drinking too much and mass-produced but ineffectual rebelliousness."

Reader enjahova reacts viscerally to that sentiment, commenting "You are not alone in your argument. You are supported by medieval scholars who decried the rise of literacy, the government of the UK when the printing press was made, and many more anti-intellectual pessimists throughout history. They held your very same belief, what sort of chaos and tragedy will occur if everybody is literate? Peasants are dumb and uncultured, they will only pollute the literary pool. You say the same shit about the Internet. The only difference now is that we have search engines, computers, and instant communication to help us sort through the bullshit. People like you like to ignore the fact that if only one out of every 99 people posting to MySpace creates something worthwhile, that's one more worthwhile thing on the Internet to be found and shared."

NickFortune acknowledges that free-form online expression isn't always of great merit, but also shares a more optimistic view of its possibilities: "Alas, the price of giving people a tool for publishing whatever they want, is that people will use it to publish whatever they want. ... Stephen King once wrote "If you lift weights for an hour a day, you're going to grow muscles. If you sit down and write for an hour a day, you're going to learn how to write". Some of these bloggers you so deride are going to grow into people worth reading.

A similar argument from reader Sloppy: "[I]f MySpace is inane, it's because people are inane. MySpace is merely a microcosm. Go out and listen to people talking. At work, at a bar, whatever. You're going to hear pointless rambling.

On a completely different tack... you're looking at what people publish, and maybe not looking at what people are reading on MySpace — what they're getting out of it. That is a lot harder to figure out. What I found, when I signed up, was that it was a way to keep up with my local music scene. In that regard, it has been valuable .. or at least (heh) no more inane than the local music scene itself (which maybe isn't saying much, I can't make up my mind about that)."

Several readers expressed even greater appreciation for the site; playingwithknives, for instance, writes "Im 34; my beautiful, wonderful, amazing girlfriend I met through MySpace is 33; my MySpace friends are all mid 20s to low 40s. Ive met and socialized with some, and romanced a few too and its all been pretty damn cool so far. ... I just avoided the kiddies/teens/emos with a simple age filter on searches and it actually turned out to be one of the better websites about for meeting new people."

Content aside, several readers outlined reasons to believe the growth of MySpace is far from over, starting with its ownership. Reader Animats raises an interesting point about where MySpace fits into a broader landscape of media ownership, calling its success a "triumph of 'old media.'"

"Alexa says that the top five sites today are, in order, Yahoo, MSN, Google, MySpace, and eBay. Of those, only MySpace is owned by an 'old media' company, and only MySpace is growing significantly. This may be the first time that a top Internet site was owned by an 'old media' company. (MySpace is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation [ www.newscorp]). It makes sense; MySpace is to the Internet as tabloid journalism is to the newspaper industry. News Corp now has a leading position in both."

Zaphod2016, sees a parallel in the search engine world because of MySpace's current popularity, writing "Recently, Slashdot ran this article about Ask.com's growing market share. CEO Jim Lanzone has complained that his service is superior to competitors', but has not yet approached the market share of the Google-ocracy. The reason? Like Xerox before it, Google has become a part of our common vernacular in 2006 (to google, I googled it, etc). Some expect Google will remain on top for this reason alone, others claim that superior technology is how Google became #1 in the first place, and so, Ask.com has a chance. So what does this have to do with MySpace? MySpace currently finds itself in a similar position; unlike rivals such as Facebook or Friendster (remember them?) their market share is simply in a league all its own. ... With a social network, I must invest a significant amount of time in order to setup my profile, and the experience is dependent on how many friends (or similar-minded people) I can find also using the service. Once I have become comfortable using one service, I might be hesitant to 'start over' at another, especially if none of my friends were using it either."

Partly because of that time investment in familiarization, reader LittleBigScript calls MySpace "the new Internet," writing:

"I think you all aren't going to like this, but MySpace is beginning to become what people (under 30) mean when people ask if you are 'on the Internet.' This is similar to when people ask if you have a phone, [and] they mean a cell phone. I saw a movie preview yesterday on TV where it didn't list a website, but a MySpace address. It may be a good thing that your content provider will become a social networking site, so you could look at your content in virtually the same way on every computer which is connected."

One of the most concise arguments for MySpace's success comes from walnutmon, who writes "What I rarely see about MySpace, is what a brilliant idea it is. Not everyone knows how to create a website, but most people have the capacity, and interest to learn how to use MySpace. Instead of looking down on myspacers perhaps those of us who know how to use the Internet should learn how to cater to those who are not technically savvy. Isn't that the idea of selling technology? Making things that normally wouldn't be accessible to everyone accessible?"

Cgenman lays out a similar argument, which could be a manifesto for anyone trying to start an online community: "Basically, MySpace does all of those sappy things that the Internet was supposed to do years ago. The content is all by users. It's all about helping people network with each other. It appeals to people's vanity as well as their curiosity. It happens to have a great underserved niche (indie bands) that tent pegs it even if they aren't the primary users. It's naughty. It's viral.

Basically, put control in the hands of your users, and let them work for the communal site. Find some underserved niche and add features to support their usage habits. Make sure everyone joins. Don't censor interesting stuff. Be a community builder rather than a content provider."

Thanks to everyone whose comments informed the discussion, in particular those readers quoted above.
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MySpace's Trip to The Top

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  • Grr... (Score:1, Offtopic)

    • Hehe, and here I was thinking that mdash was just some very prolific poster to whom all the others were responding.
  • Reason Why (Score:3, Insightful)

    by neonprimetime ( 528653 ) on Thursday July 13, 2006 @04:58PM (#15714756)
    Seeing a 4300% increase in visits in just two short years

    Sorry, but the real reason for this is you can pick up 14-17 year old girls.
    • by Kesch ( 943326 ) on Thursday July 13, 2006 @05:04PM (#15714794)
      You like dating 40-yr old FBI agents too!?

      I thought I was the only one.
    • Rupert Murdoch is feeding us subliminal messaging through his Fox and Friends campaign. I'm now hungry for bad grammar and pre-teens... mmmmm Myspace
    • Re:Reason Why (Score:5, Insightful)

      by apflwr3 ( 974301 ) on Thursday July 13, 2006 @07:18PM (#15715408)
      Sorry, but the real reason for this is you can pick up 14-17 year old girls.

      No, the sheer numbers are because MySpace is a way 14-to-17 year old BOYS can pick up 14-17 year old girls. And vice versa. And the age range is more like 15-25, but why quibble.

      I know sensationalist news stories and "think of the children" types make it sound like pedophiles lurk under every bush but come on. The real reason Myspace is such a success is because they figured out (or stumbled upon) how to do a social network site that appeals to the high school mentality.

      IMO it's the 1-on-1 approve/deny friends system which lets them form cliques (and shut people out), as well as the top 8 which lets you create an inner circle. Friendster failed because when you're one person's friend you're friends with all of their friends, and so on. Myspace allows the user to be a selective snob.

      (I also believe the clunky style appeals to the teen mind more than any slick, well-designed Web 2.0 portal ever could. A typical Myspace page is like a locker or Trapper Keeper covered with stickers, notes, pictures, doodles and other crap... A complete eyesore to us adults with refined taste, but exactly what a 15-year old wants.)
  • by RunFatBoy.net ( 960072 ) * on Thursday July 13, 2006 @04:58PM (#15714757)
    I always thought that MySpace recorded just the right meta-search elements to keep me interested. I tried Orkut and others and none provided a search for individuals who graduated from my highschool.

    Whenenever I enter a new place, whether physical or virtual, I always look for familiar faces. MySpace allows me to easily look for those people.

    Jim http://www.runfatboy.net/ [runfatboy.net] -- Exercise for the rest of us.
    • I always thought that MySpace recorded just the right meta-search elements to keep me interested.
      Too bad the search engine on their site is horribly slow and results in timeouts about 9 out of every 10 times I attempt to use it to stalk^H^H^H^H^H search for friends.
  • I'm actually enjoying the backslash stories, but whatever tool you're using to write these things up and/or the submission mechanism keeps adding these weird little formatting weirnesses in. It'd be nice to see that fixed mdash hopfully soon.
  • How did we get this Backlash [slashdot.org] stuff? Was there a vote that I missed?
  • Is Slashdot just reposting people's comments from previous stories as a story? If we wanted to read these comments wouldn't we... go read them in the thread?
  • by MikeRT ( 947531 ) on Thursday July 13, 2006 @05:04PM (#15714789)
    Take a lot of the political arguments that get started on slashdot and digg. Talk about some of the most unnuanced garbage out there worthy of the bowels of MySpace. "Conservative=Fascist=Republican" and "Democrat=Socialist=Liberal" is what passes for "intelligent and insightful." Most of the time, it's just repeating commonly accepted ideas without any sort of critical eye for whether they are right or not.

    So please... while it is true that MySpace can be utterly inane, the more "elite" sites are just as bad.
    • Haven't you heard of the extension to Godwin's Law? From TFL:
      As the length of a thread approaches infinity, the probability of something being compared to Hitler or Nazism approaches one. On a similar note, as the length of a political discussion approaches infinity, the probability of Republicans being compared to fascists or Democrats to hippies approaches one.
  • Yay BackSlash! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by HanClinto ( 621615 ) <hanclinto&gmail,com> on Thursday July 13, 2006 @05:04PM (#15714792)
    I'm very happy with the two BackSlash stories that I've read this week. I don't hold MySpace in high regard, and so trolling through hundreds of Slashdot comments about the story yesterday was not something I was willing to do. This BackSlash let me partake of the discussion without *totally* ignoring work for the hours it would have taken to distill this summary myself, and I really appreciate that.

    Thanks, Timothy! You're like a secretary preparing an executive summary for an on-the-go Slashdot reader like myself. It makes me feel all important and stuff. :)
    • Wait, you don't care for MySpace, but you want to read comments about it? Why?

      Enough with the backslash, we know how to read at +4 already.
      • Wait, you don't care for MySpace, but you want to read comments about it? Why?

        Is that a serious question? I'll assume it is and answer your question as such.

        As a developer on the Internet, I need to be aware of what's going on if I want to "keep with the times". I don't like MSN or Yahoo! either, but that doesn't mean as a Google freak I'm going to bury my head in the sand and ignore that very large chunk of the Internet. I want to understand the current movements on the 'net and what's hot, what's de

    • I think what they are trying to do is show all the lurker users who don't comment that there's a lively and sort of, uh, intellectual discussion going on. I wonder what the percentage of regular slashdot users who don't comment is. When I first started reading slashdot, in like 1997 or something, I didn't comment much and I think a lot of people are like that. They just read the summary and the article and move on. Then I started at a really boring job and I didn't have anything to do. So I started reading
      • I wonder what the percentage of regular slashdot users who don't comment is.

        I think it's quite high, more-so then you'd think. If you look in some of some of CmdrTaco's journals [slashdot.org] I think he talks about it a number of times. I've linked it, but I'm honestly too lazy to go back and try to find anything specific.

    • Essentially, all BackSlash is doing is showing a majority of the same content as if you were reading the comments at a threshold of 4 or 5. I could personally do without Timothy's comments.
    • I'm very happy with the two BackSlash stories that I've read this week. I don't hold MySpace in high regard, and so trolling through hundreds of Slashdot comments about the story yesterday was not something I was willing to do.

      That's mostly due to moderators not using "redundant" enough to discourage inane groupthink. 40 people say the same thing, and 6-7 of them get modded to 5, Insightful.

    • I'm very happy with the two BackSlash stories that I've read this week.

      I'll second that.
  • I'd really like to see a peer-to-peer social networking site. Maybe you would broadcast a tarball of your page to your 1st-level friends or something? That would eliminate some of the problems with spam, security, and privacy. And then we don't have to worry about ads (or Rupert Murdoch for that matter) It would definitely be an interesting experiment.
  • by intrico ( 100334 ) on Thursday July 13, 2006 @05:05PM (#15714801) Homepage
    Interesting coincidence how at the same time that MySpace reached the "most visited site status" ever, the major TV networks saw their "lowest ratings week" ever. [cnn.com]
    • That's very interesting [record low viewership figures for US TV].

      Most of the rest of the world would have had record high viewership over the last month, I would imagine.

      Just an observation.

  • i hate myspace (Score:2, Insightful)

    by jaydonnell ( 648194 ) *
    I have never seen the appeal of myspace. The blogging system is very poor and peoples custom designs are horrible. It seems to me that myspace is purely visual with very little substance. Apparently this appeals to a whole lot of people, but I am not one of them! I really miss the days of the old community sites (half-empty.org was my fav). I've been trying to find a modern site that has the same feel of those old community sites; debates, conversations, topics of interest, etc. Recently i found a new one c
    • It's because it gives teens what they want; to be able to talk to each other about shit, make their pages outlandish and stupid, post OMG PONIES bulletins etc etc etc.

      Meanwhile, the people who just use it to keep in touch with friends and meet new people get along fine. I mean, I found my girlfriend through MySpace, and my page isn't stupid/outlandish :)
    • I agree, partially.
      As far as just blogging goes, myspace doesn't compare with some of the other sites. But it does have wide appeal because of it's music/video/etc features.

      The best use of myspace though, imho, is for networking and promo. As a musician I've used myspace to promote my band and have spread exposure to thousands of people all over who never would have heard me otherwise. This also lead to good online sales as as well.

      I like myspace.
    • This is your right to hate it. I don't argue that pages can be completely corrupted by unskilled people by adding styles and animated gif's gone wild, I am not sure blogging and design was the intent of the site. It even states in their agreement you are not to modify the design of the site. BUt some odd million people do. But aimed at 15+ community or not, there are MANY and when I say that I mean MANY people of older age that actually are telling the truth as far as age. I am not saying the 20 yr olds tha
      • that was kind of my point. myspace clearly appeals to a ton of people. I'm just not one of them. btw, what was your nick on .5e?
      • Popularity can be an odd thing when it comes to old world media companies. Consider the number of computers and IP addresses that News Corp controls, used correctly they will run up traffic results. I seen mypsace references in weekly comics in newspapers to drive interest among children.

        How many of the supposed members really exist and are not just fillers to make up numbers. Myspace is being put through the old world media hype machine, it is the most popular because they say so it in all their other co

    • I think it just gave people an excuse to get on the internet and express something about themselves. They don't know about web design. Before myspace, they didn't want to know. Ever try teaching somebody who doesn't know anything about computers how to design websites? They may say they want to learn, but they don't. (speaking generally here)

      So you get crappy myspace pages. But at least they felt comfortable with finally making a personal page, and maybe it even got some people into email or IM. It definite
  • We're on to your sneaky ways oh mighty Slashdot editors. Put up a story with the words "MySpace" in the article here and there and you're bound to get some spillover. When do we get to add our pictures to our profiles here now?
  • I have a blog on Livejournal and I might hit the site 15 times for posting 1 entry and 1 comment with all the previews and re-edits.

    Join my Facebook group: "MYSPACE is a Time Machine that takes you back to 1996. [facebook.com]"
    Description: MYSPACE.COM is a Time Machine that takes you back to the Internet in 1996 in terms of web design (awful) and user gullibility (awful) and the mindless forwarding of unfounded nonsense.
  • It would be the 12th most populated country with a current network of 93,112,039 people.
  • by BTWR ( 540147 ) <americangibor3&yahoo,com> on Thursday July 13, 2006 @05:35PM (#15714950) Homepage Journal
    Hey Timothy, not sure if you do all of these yourself, but I enjoy the quick-turnaround of these posts. You basically save me from scrolling the "Only +5 posts" by giving the highlights, with narrative background. Good job. It's now my 2nd favorite part of the site (after games.slashdot.org [slashdot.org])
  • Honestly, even if a few dozen of you respond here, what percentage of slashdot's
    readership is still in college? You are seriously out of sync with readership
    demographics here slashdot.

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=190912&cid=157 03542 [slashdot.org]
    • This is why we think the greater percentage is still in college.

      Why on earth would you post a link to your own offtopic diatribe?

      • Why the hell should I not link to it? The way I see it is debatable whether it is off-topic.
        As far as people getting sick and tired of the ceaseless mentioning of this college personals site,
        that's mainly due to oversaturating the channels by stooping to every excuse just to put their
        name on the main page. If I were to take the "we" serious in "why we think the greater percentage
        is still in college" I would say that "we" is in big trouble.

        There's a more "age appropiate" service for people out there which pe
  • Well, I will admit I hate MySpace and wished it'd die like a bug. However, none of us are really doing much about it aside from saying how much we hate it. I created a better version of MySpace, and it's called "Flingr". When I started to code the site, my primary focus was on lightweight page browsing, and security. I easily accomplished this, but there's a twist to it. That twist is that no news medium is willing to cover a site which can knock out MySpace (not even TechCrunch, even though they said
    • Here's what really happened: You created a clone product in a very competitive marketplace that you don't understand, and then you didn't even know how to market it.
    • Like the person who got here first said: It's a nonissue. It's like trying to take on McDonalds in burgers. It was a good idea when it started, it had the magic mix to get popular, and now it's entrenched. Assuming no outside difficulties, it's either going to continue to languish with its core crowd (like LiveJournal... let's watch the emokids grow up!) or end up toppling of its own stagnation sometime down the line. It would take not only a "MySpace Killer" clone to come along, but also a massive failure
  • Bandwidth Wastage? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <slashdot&worf,net> on Thursday July 13, 2006 @05:48PM (#15715016)
    Haven't we learned enough about bandwidth leechers to cause them significant pain already?

    I mean, the fact that they're direct-linking an image and using it as a background gives the owner of the website tremendous power over the users. For example, a really annoying background that makes all text unreadable? High contrast checkers can do that, or anigifs that flash incessantly. Or redirect the link to the popular "rgb.swf" (a really annoying flash that plays the Axel F theme and draws stripes of bars alternating red-green-blue constantly.).

    Or heck, put up an image of something that's against MySpace TOS and report the site to MySpace!

    It works so well for sellers doing the same on eBay (imagine their dismay when that "cool TV" photo they stole is replaced by one that's broken? or similar).

    Or maybe redirect to a page that "breaks out" of the page and forwards them to the MySpace front page or something?

    A lot of power can be had by bandwidth leeches...
  • Welcome Tom as our new ruler.
  • Well if you say so.

  • The .Net and CFM can't hang.. Mad exceptions.. Like every click is waiting 30 seconds for an error page. HELLO?? If they knew how to program maybe it would be a LOT faster and reliable. Myspace is really going downhill as far as that is concerned.. I'm sure some more hardware could help them out too.

    Who moves from CFM to .Net? *barf*
  • Practically every MySpace site pushes an MP3 stream to you. Constantly. As long as that page is open in a tab in your browser.

    Compare that to all of the other browsing one may do, where the bandwidth hogs are mostly annoying Flash ads, and most of the real content, text and jpegs, has loaded before you read the first sentence.
  • Though I use the internet daily, I have no contact at all with any person with a Myspace account. I don't even see what myspace's pitch is all about ? Social networking ? like each account has a contact list or something ? Have I lived on a desert island or something ?
  • I wonder how many of those comments, if they came mostly from MySpace users, were in proper English? I'm guessing 10 at the most.
  • Did anyone mention all of the redirect pages MySpace has? Also, every 4 or 5 pages you visit on MySpace, you will get an error page, which is even more hits to add to the count.
  • triumph of old media?? errrr.......didn't newscorp simply *buy* MySpace? How exactly is that a "triumph"?
  • I think some poor editor forgot the & in &mdash; Which is a shame, because — looks OK.
  • Wake me up when they turn a profit. Page views are absolutely meaningless. I mean, I'm happy for them and all, and I think MySpace is a good thing, but unless they eventually start making money it ain't gonna last.
  • I know Firefox and Opera allow you to force a site to do certain things. (which may wind up breaking it in your browser). But couldn't a possible solution to the horribly designed myspace pages be one where there's a Firefox extension or Opera (whatever) that makes all myspace pages look like one default thing? Have it automatically ignore the music and videos, etc..

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