Battlestar Galactica Season 2 This Summer 592
jangobongo writes "SCI FI Channel announced that the second season of its hit original series Battlestar Galactica will premiere this summer with 20 new episodes, after earlier confirming their commitment to the show. Production will resume in March in Vancouver, B.C., with the entire ensemble cast returning, along with executive producer and writer Ronald D. Moore and executive producer David Eick. Averaging over 3 million viewers per episode, the series has quickly become SCI FI's highest-rated original series. No news on when a UK premeire might occur, but with Battlestar Gallactica ranking number 9 out of the top ten most popular TV program downloads worldwide, I don't think UK fans would have to wait long in any case." They're offering the first episode of the show for viewing in a no-charge commercial free venue on the official site.
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I imagine there are tons of people like me who can't watch the show, but would love to be able to.
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Thanks in advance.
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Region coding is pretty much dead. It's not an excuse for piracy.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007L6S
Be worried... (Score:3, Funny)
Slashdot usage may drop off unexpectedly.
(Not me, I was never a BSG fan... I was a TNG fan)
Re:Be worried... (Score:5, Insightful)
You should check it out. I'm not real familiar with the "old" BSG, but as far as I can tell, the new one is totally different. It's an excellent show. My tastes have changed since I was a TNG fan, but the first season of BSG is as good as TNG was at its peak, and very consistently good. I personally can't wait for season 2.
Beg, borrow, steal, or buy the miniseries and give it a spin. Any TV series that begins with the brutal destruction of human civilization can't be all bad.
Re:Be worried... (Score:5, Funny)
This explanation is both hilarious and completely true : )
But you forgot to mention that the best thing about the old Galactica has been included in the new galactica: Shiny robots with a red "eye" that goes back and forth! W00T!
Now I'll go back to pondering the possibility that K.I.T.T. was the illegitimate child of a Cylon and General Lee... carry on.
Re:Be worried... (Score:2)
That's the best out-of-context quoting I've seen today. I didn't mean to make a jab at the old BSG, but if I were, that's exactly how I would have done it! Thanks for playing with my post.
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It's weird. It's like Ron Moore and his team sat down and watched the whole run of the old show (it was only 18 episodes or so, something like that) and got familiar with it, then went off and did their own thing. You can see traces of the old show in broad ideas and in itty bitty details (like the fact that Starbuck waggles her wings in "You Can't Go Home Again"), but it's not like they're trying to do a remake.
Re:Be worried... (Score:4, Funny)
There already was a firefly-class ship in the show; they have established the presence of cowboy planets as far as I'm concerned.
All good sci-fi universes include some form of space cowboys, they just have to : )
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Hmmm (Score:5, Funny)
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Chief: Right away, sir.
Sci Fi (Score:5, Insightful)
Or finally take advantage of online distribution and supply high-quality downloads themselves (of course containing commercials so they still have a revenue stream).
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The reason why they have a hard time getting ratings is because they're not popular with the general TV-watching public. For futher evidence, just look at the media frenzy over shows like Big Brother, I'm A Celebr
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I don't see why commercials would be required. I would be more than willing to pay for reliable downloads at a decent speed - and buying directly from the studios would enable much better distribution of profits.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
Re:still can't make money (Score:3, Funny)
So basically, all we have to do is hac^H^H find a technical solution that will boost the Nielson ratings of our favourite shows!
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I know a lot of people who have an opinion about BSG. The vast majority love it, but the few who dislike it are real sci-fi nerds. They dislike the fact that the show doesn't contain enough techno-babble for them, or the fact that there's too much religion, or the fact that the civilians are dress in normal clothes instead of one-piece jumpsuits with no visible zipper.
It seems, based on my EXTENSIVE SCIENTIFIC POLLING (ahem), that BSG is ac
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No TiVo yet (Score:3, Funny)
Nah, I just don't have TiVo yet.
So what can we expect in the Slashdot comments (Score:5, Funny)
Season 1 spoilers in this comment. Look away now!
So what can we expect in the Slashdot comments for this article?
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People wishing Starbuck was still a womanizer
I won't complain much about the being a girl part. She's actually pretty cute. But I definately find myself wishing she were still a womanizer.
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# People wishing Starbuck was still a womanizer
Okay, now *there's* something worth fighting for. Quickly, someone get an online petition set up!
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StarBUCK should be both a man and a womanizer! Boomer should be a black man, and human! Ditto for Colonel Tigh! The Cylons suck, the old series WAS better, it's boring without the space battles, and the religion sux.
And just because I'm too late to yell "First Post" doesn't mean I didn't think about it.
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I found it very interesting.
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It's ground-breaking TV, baby. Talk about reinventing the genre.
The first episode of Voyager showed Nelix in a bath. One episode of Babylon 5 had two senior officers holding a conversation while using urinals. Not quite new...
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Well, that's the thing, you see. It doesn't have to be dead time. "Six Degrees of Separation" (the BSG episode, not the movie of the same name) included a whole, lengthy scene with two characters having a conversation between urinal stalls. And it was great, because the director had the balls to shoot it all from outside the stalls, just letting the actors play it with their
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I'd also point out, as I have many times before, the strange standards of American audiences, who can become red-faced with indignation over nudity, but find no problem with slasher films or chains-saw massacres. I mean, Galactica's premised on a massive genocide, and the pilot deals with violent, shocking deaths over and over again, but people get upset about the sex? Weird....
I find this 100% true, what is the deal wiht that. Why do so many americans and canadians let their children watch terminator movies and other very violent action shows but the hint of a naked body sends parents into a frenzy. What kind of insane values were these parents brought up with..
I can imagine their parents..
"Killing is okay..BUT DONT EVER LET ANYONE SEE YOU NAKED OR EVER HAVE SEX!!!"
I can certainly tell you which i find more natural.
Speak Up, People! (Score:5, Interesting)
The scientist, the Commander and the President are always whispering their lines. That's a cheap way to try to carry drama - look how well it did for Captain Janeway.
Oh, and, cripes, get a steadycam for the handheld shots. Again, let the writing and acting carry the drama, not cheap tricks with cameras and microphones.
OK, one more, turn down the mix on the "Cylon in my head" theme. I get it.
So far, so good though. They do have me wondering how Starbuck can interface with the ship and what they'll do with a Cylon who doesn't know she's a Cylon. And based on the microscope scene there's a real possibility to do a human-cylon hybrid story arc.
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Interesting... (Score:5, Interesting)
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I saw that too. Kind of a spoiler.
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really have nothing to say... (Score:3, Funny)
HELL YEAH!
Surreal watching Caprica downtown... (Score:5, Funny)
It's really weird for me watching the Occupied Caprica scenes. They keep showing shots of downtown Vancouver and I keep going "But that's not an alien world! Hey, that's the building I work in!!"
The worst cog-diss was in the pilot at the Market scene. That was the AQ of my alma mater, Simon Fraser University [www.sfu.ca]. Nothing ruins the mood of an alien world than locating the benches you used to take naps on between classes.
Do you guys in NY and LA have the same cognitive dissonance when watching your towns subbing for other parts of the world?
Episode 1 (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/33_full_episode/ [scifi.com]
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Timed release. (Score:4, Insightful)
I know I personally had already finished watching the whole of session 1 when it was barely even starting on Sci Fi.
I wonder how many viewers this cost Sci Fi.
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I will be looking forward to a second season (Score:5, Insightful)
The concepts of the Cylons now having evolved beyond the silver armored, red side2side eye, robots is a needed differenation between the old and new. Now that they can look and act human (similar to what we saw in Terminator), opens up the "trust no one". Again similar to the times now, as the so called "war on terror", one doesn't really know who the enemy is.
It's refreshing to see something new in the SciFi arena. BSG hasn't hooked me to the extent that B5 did (with out a doubt my favorate TV sci-fi series.) I'm still enjoying it, and try not to miss an episode.
I personally welcome a second sesason.
Cheers,
Xyst
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Sci Fi is turning into quite the network.
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Erm, you do know that is just a way to save money on special effects right?
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I agree. I was skeptical at first -- Starbuck being a girl and all. But now I really enjoy the show, the premise is the same, and many character names are the same, but that's all. The cylons are far more devious and crafty than in the original series. The plot is interesting and there are many interesting subplots. This is not your father's Battlestar Galactica.
And I think the Starbuck character is attractive, in a tomboyish sort of way.
Remember the kid with the robo-dog?
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I saw that shot more than a few times back when Starbuck was a man.
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Sure, the original was 90% cheese but they had characters that gave you some impression that humanity was at least partially worth saving.
This is what Star Trek, SG-1 & BSG78 all had that BSG04 does not.
Being a inhumanly idealistic does make them sympathetic. Being a real person dealing imperfectly with problems makes someone sympathetic. A sympathetic character isn't some paragon of virtue.
Re:original? (Score:5, Insightful)
It may be a remake, but it's so dissimilar to the original series I'm not sure it's even worth bitching about Starbuck being a chick. Believe it or not, this is one of those times they did a remake right. Watch it, you're likely to agree.
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Starbuck is more likeStarbuck than you think (Score:5, Insightful)
*Spoiler warning to plot points ahead*
If you notice, the original Starbuck was brash, vulgar (well at least for 1979 TV standards), and even hedonistic. The original Starbuck was a ladies man, but this new one had this fling with Apollo's brother before the war which was passionate and even a bit unwise. They are making it a bit more of a plot point than a character trait but there are ties. Starbuck in both series doesn't give a rats ass about the chain of command except when it really counts. Both are excellent pilots, and both take wild and crazy chances.
I also noticed in the pilot episode, when starbuck is saving apollo in that really crazy manner, Apollo asks her "Are you sure this is going to work?" She replies something along the lines of "Ummm I dunno! I hope!" I don't remember the words but I remember her face. It reminded me so much of same kind of face the original Starbuck would make when ever he had a crazy idea that someone asked him about, it was uncanny.
Okay and I did lie, there is one other important difference. The original series, despite trying to be serious, was still camp. It was network TV after all. This new series is grittier and darker and is less about the quest than it is the individual relationships and the personal journies everyone is taking in trying to survive. It's easy to lose site of the similarities between characters when the over all theme of the show is radically different.
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Starbucks is coffee.
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I saw a local prodcution of "It's a Wonderful Life" where the angel Clarence was portrayed by a female rather than male. She was the hit of production!
Your statement really highlights how small minded and obtuse people can be.
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If you're missing out on what is possibly the best Sci Fi series of our lives because you're still mad about the cancellation of a great show that was (and I say this as a huge Farscape fan) past it's prime, that's your problem.
But let me say: You're missing out big.
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Well, to be fair, Farscape had a huge budget but its audience wasn't growing. It's not that they just decided "welp, that's gone it's course", rather it turned into "we can't spend this much money". Yeah, it sucks and all, but TV is a business.
As for decisions that don't set well with me, how about Fox pre-empting Futurama and then cancelling it for ratings. Asses.
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Obviously these things are subjective, but I LOVED the new series. And the season cliffhanger... I knew what was coming, but still flinched!
Good stuff, in my book.
Re:Season 2? (Score:2)
Trailer Park Boys only has 6-8 episodes per season.
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It is not unheard of for a show to get a half-season when its just starting out. It gives the TV companies a chance to test the waters.
Then there are cases like Buffy - which replaced a show mid-season and only got a half season as a result (then it got 6 full seasons and a spin off).
But hey, 20 more episodes ordered. Yippie.
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Generally the first season is shorter, but heres a list of recent shows that had 24 or more episodes per season - I was surprised to see it wasnt as large as I initially thought.
TV Show - Episodes per seasonVoyager - 26
Deepspace 9 - 26
Enterprise - 26
24 - 24
West Wing - 24
Friends - Hovered between 23 and 25
Re:Are they still going to rip-off old storylines? (Score:2, Funny)
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The dual storyline back on Caprica is pointless.
It's odd that you specifically mention those two points, as those are two of my favorite parts of the story.
On the first, I particularly liked it (though it looks like they're getting away from it) how Baltar would be in two seperate conversations, one w/ the Cylon chick and one w/ someone else, and he'd respond to both w/ the same statement, which had very different meanings in each conversation. I thought that was rather clever. I'm not sure why she's a nympho, but her being in Baltar's head is part of what makes him so interesting. IMHO, the series would not be as interesting w/o him, though I think they're all great (not enough shows have truly human [flawed] characters).
On the second part, I've been enthralled w/ what's happening on Caprica. The guy's a rat in a maze, and the Cylon's are just observing him, studying him. I look forward to the 5-10 minutes each episode that they cut to Caprica.
Just my feelings on the series.
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"rip-off old story lines"? (Score:3, Insightful)
That's rich coming from someone who's asking for any version of Star Trek to come back, particularly Enterprise. Hasn't Trek set some kind of all time television record for number of old storylines ripped-off? Even when it's good it's maybe the most predictable stuff you can find on television.
Aside from that feel free to think it stinks. I happen to think it's some good stuff but then I also enjoyed this season of Enterprise which has been cancelled just when it was starting to get good. Pity I can't
Re:Are they still going to rip-off old storylines? (Score:5, Interesting)
I think the new Battlestar stinks - especially as it's nothing new (more of a cross between the original series and the books).
Actually, you should forget the original series or the books ever existed. They were used to provide inspiration for this show, and not too much else.
Ron Moore realized that the thing keeping most science fiction shows from true greatness is an over-reliance on technology to drive stories and solve problems (e.g., "Captain, I redirected the proton flux through the transdynamic warp core shunt and used temporal simulspacing to realign the cosmic strings into a cross-dimensional pan-galactic wormhole and ejected the plasma cascade into it!"). He intentionally reworked the basic premise and the characters to provide the most opportunity for character-based plot development and interesting conflicts.
In the original show, Baltar was a one-dimensional villain, and a clown at that. Starbuck and Apollo had a safe and non-threatening relationship, and were generally bland (outside of the humor Starbuck's womanizing occasionally generated). Colonel Tigh was a boring second-in-command, and Commander Adama was a Moses figure--beyond reproach and able to command enormous respect without doing anything to really deserve it.
By contrast, the new Baltar is a seriously flawed human, but not a pure villain. Apollo and Starbuck have a very contentious relationship, which is flavored by their memories of Apollo's dead younger brother, and also the inevitable sexual tension between them. Colonel Tigh is a great officer, but a lousy person, and his interactions with Adama and the crew reflect that. Likewise, Adama's a grizzled veteran and a smart man, but he's not perfect and he's got a lot of emotional baggage.
I like the new show, and my wife and I can't wait for each new episode to appear. She's a bigger addict than I am. She'll be thrilled when I tell her the news.
Re:Are they still going to rip-off old storylines? (Score:3, Interesting)
This Baltar is shallow, vain, brilliant and contemptous, but when put in his shoes, you wonder if your own character woul
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I mostly agree with your comments - but have to disagree with your analysis of Edward James Olmos. I think the character's tension with the president, closing of the tribunals, invasion of Colonial 1, etc.. has been fantastic. I think the idea fits well with the character. He was slated to retire - this was his last command. I see him as someone that was had a fantastic career, but has become obsolete. Between losing his son, new technology reducing his usefulness (this
Adama as a commander (Score:3, Interesting)
Galactica is the Siberia that the cruft of the military were assigned to. Thus the alcoholic XO, their best pilot can't respect authority, crew members sleeping with subourdinates, etc.
Re:Are they still going to rip-off old storylines? (Score:3, Insightful)
I loved the original BSG... when it was first on and I was a kid... and in fact, I think I saw it in reruns.
But when you look at the original now, you have to just shake you head and think... who wrote this garbage? A lot of the episodes just made no sense (I know, I'll send wave after wave of suicide cylon fighers to attack the Galactica, and when they succeed, I won't follow it up with another attack to fin
Re:New Galactia SUCKS! (Score:4, Funny)
Dude, have you seen the chick he's seeing?
Chip H.
Re:New Galactia SUCKS! (Score:3, Funny)
I dunno -- he keeps saying he's dating some hot chick, but I have yet to meet her; I think it's all in his head.
Jay (=
Re:New Galactia SUCKS! (Score:3, Funny)
Really? They seemed to take a lot more killing than the originals. One shot with a laser pistol and one of the old ones was dead. The new ones can take several hits and keep coming.
No Imperious leader.
Yes, a guy made of paper mache was really intimidating.
No Lucifer.
Oh yes, flashing lightbulb head really made the Cylons seem scary...
Balter is a fag.
I think many of the women (and at least one female Cylon) in the series would disagree with this assessment...
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Re:"Original" series??? (Score:3, Informative)
just a nitpick (Score:4, Informative)
It's made in Vancouver
Sky One funded half the first season's episodes. One of their conditions for doing so was the right of first showing in the UK.
Actually this fact is quite important to mention, because there have been delays in broadcast and contract negotiations in the past over here, even when dealing with parts of the same network.
Case in point: one year Sky One couldn't show the latest season's episodes of Voyager on time when it turned out Paramount couldn't agree a suitable price with Sky One's media buyers. Totally embarrassing for the latter network, especially as they had already hyped it up in their promotional advertising and had viewers frothing at the mouth for the opener. They had to explain it on air at the last minute, and IIRC it fucked them up for two or three weeks.
Re:Not Original (Score:4, Funny)
Yes. The rest of us remember the older, crappier series.