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Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Death 1003

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the right-before-the-election-even dept.
indraneil writes "Saddam Hussein has been sentenced to death along with his half brother. Three Baath party officials charged with Hussein in the killings of 148 Shiite civilians have been sentenced to 15 years in prison, while a fourth has been cleared. He is to be hanged inside 30 days from now. Saddam Hussein has been given 10 days to appeal against the decision. His lawyer has warned to a bloodbath if the sentence is carried out."
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Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Death

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  • I thought that this was an automatic appeal. After the appeal the sentence must be carried out within 1 month.

    Anybody clarify?
    • by ScentCone (795499)
      I thought that this was an automatic appeal. After the appeal the sentence must be carried out within 1 month.

      Correct. This automatically goes to appeal. The defense has 30 days to file motions in that venue, and there is no set time limit on the appeal process. But once the appeals court says it's done, the sentence must be carried out within 30 days (assuming the sentence stands).
      • by tomhudson (43916) <barbara...hudson@@@barbara-hudson...com> on Sunday November 05, 2006 @10:53AM (#16724609) Journal

        The cappeal court's verdict:

        The court: "We will hang you within 7 days, but the day on which we come to hang you, it will be a surprise."

        Saddam thinks: "Well, since it has to be a surprise, it won't be on the 7th day, because that's the last day, so it wouldn't be a surprise.

        That means that the last day the can hang me is the 6th day ... but since they can't hang me on the 7th day, if I make it to day 6, it won't be a surprise, so day 6 is out too ...

        but ... if they come for me on day 5, it won't be a surprise, because they can't hang me on days 6 or 7 ...

        ... but ...

        (repeat)

        Saddam: "You cannot hang me!"

        Court: "Take him outside and hang him. Surprised?"

    • It seems that the court is in Iraq following Iraqi laws (which are really just whatever Bush and company decided they would be). Automatic appeals might not be part of the process.
  • by arcite (661011) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @10:41AM (#16724491)
    This was a show trial.

    The US hand picked the judges and the sentence was a forgone conclusion.

    Will Saddam get a chance to talk about how he had US support during the war with Iran? I doubt it.

    Saddam shouldn't be executed he should be kept alive in a cell for the rest of his life as a lesson for the Iraqi's to learn from.

    Executing Saddam will only turn him into a martyr.

    Thoughts?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by PIPBoy3000 (619296)
      Even better, judges were dismissed [go.com] in the case if they seemed to be too nice to him:
      The chief judge in Saddam Hussein's genocide trial was replaced Tuesday amid complaints from Shiite and Kurdish officials that he was too soft on the former Iraqi leader, a move that could raise accusations of government interference in the highly sensitive case.

      Now, it's pretty obvious that Saddam wasn't a nice guy. It's just that this trial seems to be so politically well-timed with an outcome that was predetermined
    • by Rahga (13479)
      "Will Saddam get a chance to talk about how he had US support during the war with Iran? I doubt it."

      Being 27, and knowing the target audience for this line of thought, it sounds like some sort of big revelation. Reality is probably closer to the fact that when I was a kid, this stuff wasn't in the history books, not a part of everyday conversation, and really, not all that darned important to anybody anyway.

      "Saddam shouldn't be executed he should be kept alive in a cell for the rest of his life as a lesson
      • by Znork (31774)
        "A sentence to a lifetime of boredom strikes fear in the hearts of very few men who would follow..."

        In case you didnt notice, fear of getting killed doesnt usually stop dictators from being nasty. In fact, it mostly tends to encourage them to clean up better, and to be more through in even more atrocities.

        Just take a look at what Saddam was sentanced for; retaliating against an assassination attempt by one of the current Shiite political parties. Do you think his death sentance is preventing the current Ira
      • and really, not all that darned important to anybody anyway.

        Actually, it is important. We need to know what happened during the 80's, esp. since W. allowed that admin to hide the info as well as to destroy a great deal per an executive order. In fact, I would love to have Iran come forward with exactly what happened with the hostages and the iran-contra scandal.

        A sentence to a lifetime of boredom strikes fear in the hearts of very few men who would follow in Saddam's footsteps.

        Hmmmm. So those suicide bo

    • I agree that Saddam shouldn't be executed. It's such an easy out for him. I say keep him alive, and if it happens, let him see Iraq be rebuilt into a democracy. I say keep him in a military prison in the US though. That way if he escapes, he won't get far before someone recognizes him. Plus he has too much power in those prisons in Iraq.
      • by AchilleTalon (540925) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:38AM (#16725065) Homepage
        I believe Saddam must be executed. It must be clear to his supporters there is no chance at all I could once a day be back as the Iraq President. And the page must be turn once and for all on his presidency. Everyone will have to look forward.

        Saddam must be bring to death, not only for his crimes, but for what he represents as well.

        And a guy who hides in a rat-hole while his country is under the fire of ennemies and believe he represents the country doesn't deserve any respect. I don't know how such a wimpy president can be turned into a martyr otherwise than by unsane reasoning.

  • 30 days from now? Pipe dream. The Shiites want their day (or years) in court with Saddam, no matter that the verdict will be the same. :)
  • by packetmon (977047) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @10:42AM (#16724511) Homepage
    So we have one man responsible for thousand of deaths (Saddam) and they're now liberated. Only since the beginning of their liberation, they've actually being dying by the thousands. The irony.
  • by DoofusOfDeath (636671) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @10:43AM (#16724513)
    Could it actually become any worse than it is? So far it seems like people are being killed just about as quickly as the killers can sort out who's a Shi'ite, Suni, or Kurd. The only way I could imagine it getting worse is if they stopped trying to sort out each other, which I doubt will happen.
    • by Dunbal (464142)
      Could it actually become any worse than it is?

            Yes it could, but thankfully Bush only has a couple years left and can't run for a 3rd term.
  • "His lawyer has warned to a bloodbath if the sentence is carried out."

    And that would be different from the current situation, how?
  • by BeeBeard (999187)
    Several minutes ago, I saw this picture [wikipedia.org] of him over on Wikipedia, and I just felt really, really sorry for him.

    The man has already been stripped of his wealth and power, and imprisoned. Will killing him bring back the 148 dead Shiites?
    • by Guppy06 (410832) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:00AM (#16724665)
      "Will killing him bring back the 148 dead Shiites?"

      Killing him will dash the hopes of Sunis wishing to reinstate him and letting him do it all over again. Unless he was going to be held in some prison outside of Iraq, that would always be one of the hopes of the Suni insurgents.

      Did you hear his statements upon hearing the sentence? One might interpret them as his shot at martyrdom, but really they're his attempt to convince Sunis outside the courtroom to bust him out.

      If the only alternative is to be held in an Iraqi prison, this is the only way to ensure he won't do it again.
    • by Peden (753161)
      Gee, so just being stripped from wealth and power is going to make everything ok? I oppose the death penalty as much as the next guy, but please! This man is a tyrant and a brutal murderer.
    • by iknowcss (937215) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:21AM (#16724875) Homepage
      Awww, look at cute wittle Adolph [optusnet.com.au]. His mother and father loved him dearly.
    • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

      I just checked this picture [wikipedia.org], and I don't feel sorry at all.

      Perhaps we should sentence him to death too? Though, I'm slightly more realistic, I know it won't bring back any dead people.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by jb.hl.com (782137)
      To be quite frank, I just saw that picture and thought "Jesus Christ, I'd fuck that girl senseless. Even if she is Saddam Hussein's daughter."

      (Jokes aside, I see your point. But hey, eye for an eye seems to be the prevailing philosophy these days...)
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by lawpoop (604919)
      Don't be fooled by his nice smile or pretty female relative. Saddam is a psychopath. The part of his brain that handles guilt and worries about what others will think of him is inoperative. Literally, he has no conscience. Saddam rose to power by killing anybody he suspected of showing the slightest disloyalty. He tortured people, had his own son tortured, and taught his sons to torture. This man is as evil as they get.

      Psychopaths are charming, charismatic people who look nice and make you feel good. But
  • by bcmm (768152)
    I must admit that I'm not normally in favour of capital punishment anyway, but in this case I really can't see any of the normal reason given for this sort of thing.

    It isn't really going to act as a deterrent to anyone, and it's not like he's going to escape and regain power.

    Regardless of what he's done, this is the killing of a defenceless man.
  • No need for it to be posted on /. -- unless, of course, Slashdot is the only source of news for some people...

    I wonder what will happen to Linux after Saddam is gone?
  • That the left is opposed to democracy. The democratically elected government introduced the death penalty, and now it should not be carried out ...

    No it will not bring back the dead, but it WILL do 2 things :
    -> declare once and for all, and for everyone to see that killing is not allowed, which is a good thing
    -> prevent anyone from helping him (kill even more), which is a good thing
    -> prevent him from doing any further damage, which is a good thing
    -> bring this criminal's death during a last dis
    • But it's not justice (Score:5, Interesting)

      by cat_jesus (525334) <cat_jesus@hotmail.com> on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:16AM (#16724823)
      It's theatre. The court he was tried in has no legal standing over crimes that were perpetuated before the court was created. It was in every sense of the word a kangaroo court. He should have been tried in The Hague at the International Court of Justice. The problem with trying him there is that the US would lose control over the proceedings and would not be able to use the trial for their own political gain.

      • by Dunbal (464142) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:31AM (#16724993)
        He should have been tried in The Hague at the International Court of Justice. The problem with trying him there is that the US would lose control over the proceedings and would not be able to use the trial for their own political gain.

              Not to mention the rather minor point that the US broke international law by invading Iraq in the first place.
    • Your last statement "kill this animal just as he killed his thousands of victims, which is a good thing" contradicts your first statement "declare once and for all, and for everyone to see that killing is not allowed, which is a good thing". Make up your mind.
    • This is a public, and final statement that nobody gets to kill.

      Good on ya! By the way, how is that statement going to be presented, again?
  • by Lethyos (408045) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:10AM (#16724751) Journal

    I think Saddam deserves to be punished as much as the next guy. He is categorically evil and I find myself unable to deny him the death penalty. But this is so convenient for the United States. He has a great deal to tell the world about how we supported the rise of his regime. How we tried to play Iran and Iraq against each other by supplying both with weapons. Eliminating Saddam makes us that less likely to see accountability for our past transgressions.

    Now that Saddam has had his trial, it is about time to put Donald Rumsfeld [gwu.edu] (and other now prominent neo-conservatives) on trial for providing material support to a man we knew to be a brutal dictator.

    • by Dunbal (464142)
      Eliminating Saddam makes us that less likely to see accountability for our past transgressions.

            That's kind of the whole point.
  • by packetmon (977047) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:11AM (#16724771) Homepage
    So Saddam is convicted of killing 148. The toll post-Saddam is 100,000 and counting [bbc.co.uk] (Iraqis) and 3,041 US military personnel [cryptome.org]. Beheadings don't count. If you ask me, I'd say 100,000 is not a bad number of casualties and we (GOP'ers) can justify the 3,041 Americans based on actionable intelligence that shows that Saddam Hussein was a terrorist.

    We can all forget about Darfur [darfurgenocide.org] now its obvious there could never be a more evil tyrant than Saddam.

    America, we're (GOP'ers) asking you to forgive our sins [wikipedia.org], they're nothing more than political tricks by dems to sway the vote. We've brough gasoline prices down, we're bringing the troops home, we've got the largest unemployment ratio [google.com] in five years. All is well. If you don't vote for us now, the dems will allow Rosary beads of mass destruction [theregister.co.uk] into America. They're (dems) secretly colluding with Osama, Kim Jong Il, and Idi Amin. And as God is our witness (keep in mind dems are really Satan worshipping sinners), if you don't vote for us terrible things will happen.
  • Saddam Hussein: 148 killings of Iraqi people in the town of Dujail: Sentenced to death

    G.W. Bush: 650,000 killings of Iraqi civilians. Sentence? Oh wait...
    • by Dunbal (464142)
      G.W. Bush: 650,000 killings of Iraqi civilians. Sentence? Oh wait...

            Not to mention kidnapping and holding hundreds of people against their will, oh sorry, they're prisoners of war. What, they're NOT prisoners of war? What are they then?
    • by gutnor (872759)
      Welcome to the world.

      History is written by the winner ...
  • by DragonPup (302885) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:22AM (#16724889)
    SCENE: A darkened room filled with terrorists plotting to kill and maim. Suddenly, a young terrorist bursts into the room.

    Young Terrorist: Ackmed, Ackmed! I just recieved word that Saddam Hussein has been found in a court of law!

    Ackmed: By Allah, that can only mean one thing... Everyone, pack your gear and go home, The insurgency is over. I'd like to thank all of you for your time and service to the cause, but democracy has won the day. As you leave, we will be handing out pamphlets on applying for a new job. Also on the way out, please remember to throw away your paper cups.

    *as the terrorists leave,the lights in the hideout all turn on*

    Ackmed: The electricity is back on! We can go on living now! Thank you George Bush! Thank you!

  • From Cannibal the Musical - Hang the Bastard [cannibalthemusical.org]
    Hang the bastard, hang him high.
    Hoist his body to the sky.
    It's as nice as a day can be.
    Won't you come to the hanging with me?

    Hang the bastard, hang him well.
    Send his sorry soul to hell.
    When his neckbone snaps we'll know.
    When the cannibal won't be killing anymore.

    His face will turn red,
    Then purple, then blue.
    We'll watch from up here
    To get a good view.
    And when his eyes bug out we'll know,
    It's the end of him
    And the end of the show!

    So hang the bastard, hang him with
  • It is not only death penalty, it is hanging. In my legal tradition it is an inhonourable death penalty, as a high ranking military officer you enjoy the right of suicide or to get executed by gunshot. The judgement here is barbarian.

    What's even worse about it is that the US occupation demanded the sentence earlier to the court judgement.

    Character is demonstrated by how you thread your worst enemies.

    The United States waged war against Iraq but did not let the Iraqi president sign a letter of capitulation. Th
  • This was to be expected. What else could be the outcome of the trial? What would be the outcome if any other dictator was tried by a victor? Something else?

    I just find the timing amusing. Just right for the midterms. A coincidence, of course.
  • Oh god my karma is going to burn for this; though I am from Australia and we believe it is no ones right to take another's life including those who kill others. We have not had the, barbaric, death sentence for over 30 years and far longer in other states.
     
    So while this sentence was predictable and probably required from a political point of view I object on moral grounds. Instead he should be thrown in jail and never let out.
     
    My 2 cents.
  • So wait.... (Score:4, Funny)

    by rindeee (530084) on Sunday November 05, 2006 @11:26AM (#16724945)
    ...I read this whole article...twice. Then I read all the comments. Not one metion of whether Saddam is a Mac, Windows or Linux user. Dammit /., what gives!
  • Orson Scott Card (who is a Democrat) talks about the war in this post [ornery.org].

    He has a strategic perspective that Slashdottters might not be familiar with.

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