Using RFID Tags to Make Teeth 184
Roland Piquepaille writes "If you live in France, and soon elsewhere in Europe and in the U.S., and if you need a dental prosthesis, chances are good that RFID tags are involved in the manufacturing process, according to this article from the RFID Journal. The tag is embedded by the dental lab in the cast which will be used to make the prosthesis. Then it is used to record the whole history of the crown, a process requested by a European sanitary regulation. Before delivering the bridge to your dentist, all the data is copied to a smart card that will be given to you. The company is also studying the idea to put directly the tag inside the prosthesis. Maybe one day, when your dentist installs your new bridge, you'll also be the owner of a deactivated RFID tag inside it. This summary contains more details and a picture of the RFID tag used to record the life of your next crown."
Wow (Score:2, Funny)
Regis, the million dollar question, is... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Regis, the million dollar question, is... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Regis, the million dollar question, is... (Score:4, Funny)
Only for as long as you keep your tooth capped with tinfoil.
Re:Regis, the million dollar question, is... (Score:2)
More than meets the eyetooth (Score:2)
i'm an innocent victim here! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:i'm an innocent victim here! (Score:4, Informative)
Old News........ (Score:1)
Re:Old News........ (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Old News........ (Score:4, Insightful)
And if you ever need a prosthetic, make sure they track it the old way, with a little piece of paper with your name on it taped onto the cast.
Then when you show up for your fitting, and they try to jam the wrong prosthetic into your face, maybe you'll see that a more accurate method of tracking may actually be a good thing.
Re:Old News........ (Score:1)
Re:Old News........ (Score:1, Funny)
The book you are thinking of is the Bible. Mark of the beast and all that stuff.
Re:Old News........ (Score:3, Informative)
However, this type of development is important to watch. Ignore those who disagree, as they are sceptical of sceptics and contribute to society in a different manner which isn't pertinent to subjects like this.
If you haven't read 1984 [online-literature.com], or hav
American size comparison. (Score:5, Informative)
Look really close now... (Score:1)
it just looks like that because they left Norway out.
just don't mention it to a finn or sweede...
Re:American size comparison. (Score:1, Funny)
Re:American size comparison. (Score:2)
Any references?
Re:American size comparison. (Score:2)
The loss of prisoners to experiment on has lowered the medical solutions that are available or has force large amounts of money and time to be waste on a cure that works on animals but not humans.
So we have john kerry sayin
Maybe he will install a bridge... (Score:5, Funny)
Aliens did it first (Score:5, Funny)
12 Monkeys (Score:5, Funny)
If you've seen the movie, then you know this is a bad idea.
Dude you are (Score:1)
- -Jeffrey Goines
or is that just the tinfoil crowd?Re:Zap the tag. (Score:2)
Dude, it's called humor. Check into it. Nobody modded me Informative.
Or worse.... (Score:5, Funny)
You'll need a tinfoil jawplate now to go with that helmet.
David
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Re:This is so unfair (Score:4, Funny)
Inventory won't last long (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Inventory won't last long (Score:1)
I laughed tho.
Personally (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Personally (Score:4, Insightful)
I've always considered that response as a red herring... Technically true that, right at this moment, no government or corporation cares about me enough to follow my every move.
That doesn't mean such information can't hide in a database somewhere for 50 years, until I decide to, I don't know, run for president or apply for a mortgage or something like that.
"Records clearly show that the defendant came within 10 feet of a known terrorist leader on two occasions, once in Times Square, and once on the Boston subway."
"Gee, we'd love to offer you insurance, but tracking data shows that on June 15th, 2007, you exceeded the posted speed limit by 1500mph, strangely vanishing from Newton, MA, to a number of points in Southern France over a period of 47 seconds. Oh, and as much as we hate to do this, well, you know the "mandatory incrimination" laws and all, so a customs agent waiting outside would like a word with you..."
No one cares about me now. But someone tracking me in realtime doesn't concern me nearly as much as, say, an overly-zealous DA grasping at straws to close a particularly irksome unsolved crime ten years down the road.
So what? (Score:5, Insightful)
I know this is some slashdot "the gummit is comin to git us" FUD, as well as Roland Piqopiles contractualy daily blogvertisement, but get the hell over it.
If you're so afraid, start brushing your teeth and flossing.
Re:So what? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:So what? (Score:5, Informative)
Even breast implants have tracking numbers.
While using a RFID tag would make things easier it is by no means a requirement that this needs to be done.
Re:So what? (Score:2)
No. "Get over it" is the derisive battle cry of bullying thugs everywhere, anytime. No, we won't get over it.
I'll tell you what. (Score:2)
By the way, the parent's overrated post seems to leave out the main feature of RFID, remote readability. Reading IDs used to require direct physical access to the prosthetic in question. Now it can be done remotely and in secret.
It's not reasonable to walk up to a woman with breast implants and ask her to rip the implants out of her breasts so you can examine the ID code. But with a signal that can be
Computerised Milling Machine at your dentist (Score:2)
Great Idea ! (Score:5, Funny)
- my toothpaste preference
- whether or not I brush 'correctly'
- the tardiness of my payments to the dentist
This is like a dream come true - having data imbedded into my FUCKING HEAD which drones can access at their will
That's interesting... (Score:2)
Hold still a second, this might hurt a little.
I don't think the writer understands... (Score:3, Insightful)
Is it an RFID chip or a "smart chip"? Why would you "copy the data" from an RFID chip to a smart card? Isn't an RFID chip simply a form of serial number? If they're really just copying the data associated with that number, does that mean that RFID Journal writers aren't really familiar with what's going on?
Unbelievable (Score:2)
Re:Unbelievable (Score:2)
Re:Unbelievable (Score:2)
CSI: Another bad episode (Score:3, Interesting)
Sigh... (Score:4, Insightful)
You just couldn't restrain yourself from adding that onto the article summary, eh? I'm not trying to troll but that is absolute FUD and fear-mongering.
I mean, what is it with you guys? I use RFID all the time in a system I've developed to track employees. Nothing about this can be construed as bad but yet you still spin it somehow or another.
We use them in our employee badges and have scanner points at all major doorways of the building. It helps us track when employees are in areas that are containing overly sensitive material and when employees just go goof off which a great many do.
RFID only makes life better and I don't see how any of you can say otherwise.
Now RFID in teeth? That is absolutely FUD. You know it will never happen but you just want to provoke some sort of knee-jerk reaction from the masses. These sort of comments don't belong to be with the article summary on the frontpage.
Re:Sigh... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Sigh... (Score:4, Insightful)
Some people care about such things, I don't, waste your mod points on me.
Hot News: "RFID used to more efficiently and accurately track things in a complicated manufacturing process in which efficient and accurate tracking is absolutely essential". OMG!11!!!!1! Sound the alarms guys!
I'm also sick of Orwell references made by slashbots who've obviously never read any of his work, but that's another story.
Re:Sigh... (Score:2)
This is clearly different from tracking bags of chips. This is an RFID tag which could become part of your body, which you cannot microwave for obvious reasons (not the least of which is the potential for damage to the tooth by escaping gases when the chip is burned up, but the most of which is of course the stupidity of putting one's head in a microwave) and which could conceivably used not just to track your tooth, which is reasonable, but to track you, which is not. There exists today COTS equipment to
Re:Sigh... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Sigh... (Score:2)
Hear, hear! I agree completely. (I support personal gun ownership, afterall.)
What I was pointing out was the irony of somebody anonymously posting support for technologies that will be perverted to prohibit anonymity.
Re:Sigh... (Score:2)
The point is you wouldn't have a CHOICE to post anonymously in a world envisioned by McCain, Ridge, Ashcroft, et al.
Re:Sigh... (Score:1)
Re:Sigh... (Score:2)
See the article this morning about Ridge and McCain setting up checkpoints inside the U.S., and requiring you to present your identity papers, or else?
Ever read the fourth amendment?
See the articles over the last few months about how they want to add RFID, as well as biometrics, to passports?
See any parallels between these and the totalitarian governments of the past and present?
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
- Wendell Phillips (1811-1844)
Re:Sigh... (Score:2)
You have every right (for now) to post anonymously. But to post anonymously about how wonderful tracking everything and identifying everyone is could be described as ironic, hypocritical, and even disingenuous.
Re:Sigh... (Score:2, Interesting)
Of limited imagination, are we? You can't envision a scenario whereby it could be used maliciously? That it is not always for the greater good?
I'm glad some of us can.
It helps us track when employees [...] just go goof off which a great many do.
Maybe you should hire different employees. Or maybe they should hire a different boss.
Eventual Exploitation (Score:3, Insightful)
Tracking employees with their consent while on *company property* is NOT the same as tracking individual citizens as they enter stores or just walk down the street minding their own business...
It is not the technology that is the problem or its proper use.. its the fact it opens so many doors for improper use that is the issue.
You don't technology will be used improperly? Get your head out of the sand an
Re:Sigh... (Score:2)
The tooth is out there! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The tooth is out there! (Score:2)
Re:The tooth is out there! (Score:2)
Two jokes for the price of one.
Interference? (Score:5, Funny)
Although, at least I'll have an excuse for being late to work.
Interference with life (Score:1)
Re:Interference? (Score:2)
12 Monkeys? (Score:3, Funny)
Inventory (Score:1, Funny)
Secondary Reason (Score:1, Funny)
mmmmm....bulk eraser (Score:2)
"I have no idea how my history keeps getting erased evry time you see me"
you guys are complaining now... (Score:3, Funny)
^_^
Re:you guys are complaining now... (Score:2)
Is anybody else reminded... (Score:1, Redundant)
Now we really will have to pull out our teeth so they can't find us. *sigh*
You all are reading this wrong! (Score:5, Informative)
I don't think I've seen one post that understood this. The RFID is only used during the manufacturing process. The information about that RFID tag is given in a memory card to the customer at the end of the dental work. It probably contains information like when it was made, the tooth/teeth it pretains to, type of material used, etc, etc. Goddamnitreadthearticle.
-Jesse
Re:You all are reading this wrong! (Score:1)
Re:You all are reading this wrong! (Score:5, Interesting)
Read the fine summary yourself. This part, in particular:
The company is also studying the idea to put directly the tag inside the prosthesis.
I don't know about you, but I see just the mere suggestion of implanting what amount to tracking devices in dental implants as terribly damaging to our society. People have been worried for decades about dental implants being used to track them. Sometimes they think the implants might be installed by the government, other times by aliens. These thoughts are generally paranoid delusions due perhaps to mental illness or conspiracy theories and poor education. But someday soon it might actually be a legitimate concern.
Is there some reason that they can't just slap a bar coded sticker on the mold?
Re:You all are reading this wrong! (Score:2)
1) A dentist takes an impression. sends it to the lab
2) Lab takes the drs impression and fills it with "stone"-- either super hard plaster or some other such product-- to make a model
3) Lab makes an impression off of first model, and creates another stone model off of that (to visually compare the resulting models, it allows them to see if there were any obvious problems with the original impression ****** THIS STEP IS WHERE THE RFID TA
Maybe deactivated, maybe not. (Score:1, Troll)
> a deactivated RFID tag inside it.
Maybe deactivated, maybe not. As a consumer, I don't like the idea.
RFID everywhere! (Score:1)
I think we can do interesting things with RFID, but don't make use it, if I don't want to. Let's not give away too much tools to Big Brother!
I wouldn't worry too much... (Score:1, Interesting)
My father works for a company that makes the casting materials used for making crowns & other dental stuff. As a result, I've had to listen to him explain the casting process in great detail many times.
The process used is a lost-wax casting process - a wax model is made, then a ceramic mold is made from the wax model and the metal is poured into this mold. The problem with putting a RFID tag in
RFID in Schools? (Score:1)
Don't bother trying to hide (Score:2)
the owner of a deactivated RFID tag (Score:3, Insightful)
Great, so I'll have no choice in carrying an RFID around (de-activated or not).
pass the soup
Bluetooth... (Score:1)
Re:Bluetooth... (Score:2)
Roland Piquepaille again? (Score:1, Insightful)
Unlikely... (Score:5, Informative)
Sadly, this is the first
Re:Unlikely... (Score:2)
Perhaps, but it need not be the last. Indeed, I'd be interested in reading an article on designing and building a furnace or kiln, especially if it's something that I could do in my backyard if I somehow found a whole bunch of energy and time. There are a bunch of web sites that describe building small forges... a design for a high temperature kiln would be really interesting.
Re:Unlikely... (Score:2)
How the heck (Score:2)
Re:How the heck (Score:2)
possible good use for RFID? (Score:4, Insightful)
Having had more than my share of experiences within the health system lately, I'd gladly accept the risk of being bleeped by a yahoo on the street to reduce the very real risk of misdiagnosis in an emergency room. If I need to go into the emergency room, I want the team to know in less than a minute the make, model, and date of manufacture of any prosthetics I have implanted, cross-indexed with any reports of trouble with those specific prosthetics.
Seriously folks, there are occasions when being able to instantly identify an object by waving a wand within 6 inchs is a good thing.
Glad to hear it (Score:2)
Oh yeah? (Score:2)
(This post comes to you from an aging. French-resident
Why use a prosthetic tooth when... (Score:2)
Not news (Score:2)
Scanning is okay, but a bit trouble prone, RF tags are easy and less picky about the environment you're in.
I'd bet that many of the items you already own used RFID tags, you just don't konw it.
Is this a ripoff or a template? (Score:2)
The header of this fella's [weblogs.com] article is the same as groklaw [groklaw.net]... is that a template or a blatant ripoff?
Because they use the same CMS: Geeklog (Score:2)
You can play with a number of them at OpenSource CMS [opensourcecms.com].
You are affected by reading too much RIAA, SCO and Microsoft coverage: not everything looking similar is theft or ripoff
That's ok.. (Score:2)
*british smile*
New Teeth from old RFID tags! (Score:2)
Terrorists and privacy concerns (Score:2)
Re:On a non-conspiratorial note (Score:1)
I agree wholeheartedly. It would be cool if they could build an RFID crown so that if WANT to be tracked when traveling to a foreign country (oh, maybe Iraq) they might be able to actually find where you are.... are RFID chips transmissive at all? Insurance companies could offer you better rates for having an implant even... it would be great...
Also.. If you could put more information in them... say about a 1gb worth, you could store copies of passports, credit-cards, etc. inside just in cas
Re:On a non-conspiratorial note (Score:2)