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IE Dropping, Now Near 70% In Europe

Posted by kdawson on Thu Jul 19, 2007 09:27 AM
from the ascendent-fox dept.
Kevin Spiritus lets us know that XiTi Monitor, a French Web survey institute, has published its browser barometer for July, and Internet Explorer continues to lose ground. "The ascension of Firefox continues... Nearly 28% average use rate in Europe in the beginning of July 2007, with a progression in the totality of the 32 European countries studied. Firefox doesn't loose ground in any of the countries."
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:28AM (#19913997)
    Putting the same story in the related stories box does not un-dupe this news.
  • by antifoidulus (807088) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:29AM (#19914009) Homepage Journal
    Damn pheonixes, not doing the digging I paid them to do!
  • by garcia (6573) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:31AM (#19914035) Homepage
    Yeah, we know [slashdot.org]. From that blurb:

    "Mozilla's Firefox web browser has made dramatic gains on Microsoft's Internet Explorer throughout Europe in the past year with a marked upturn in FF use compared to IE over the past four months, according to French web monitoring service XiTiMonitor. A study of nearly 96,000 websites carried out during the week of July 2 to July 8 found that FF had 27.8% market share across Eastern and Western Europe, IE had 66.5%, with other browsers including Safari and Opera making up the remaining 5.7%. In some key European markets FF has already reached parity and is threatening to overtake IE as the market leading browser."

    From the current blurb:

    Kevin Spiritus lets us know that XiTi Monitor, a French Web survey institute, has published its browser barometer for July, and Internet Explorer continues to lose ground. "The ascension of Firefox continues... Nearly 28% average use rate in Europe in the beginning of July 2007, with a progression in the totality of the 32 European countries studied. Firefox doesn't loose ground in any of the countries."

    I realize we have the Firehose now but are people who read Slashdot daily using it properly? We don't need two stories in a short time frame (4 days) about the same topic.
  • Methodology (Score:5, Insightful)

    by EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:32AM (#19914063)
    From TFA:

    Methodology: Firefox's use rate corresponds to the totality of Firefox visits during the period in relation to the entirety of visits, all browsers taken together.
    They don't explain what "visits" means. Does it mean visits to *their* site? Did they poll a random number of site owners? I'm sorry, but unless they can provide some supporting information, then these statistics are meaningless.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      They don't explain what "visits" means. Does it mean visits to *their* site? Did they poll a random number of site owners? I'm sorry, but unless they can provide some supporting information, then these statistics are meaningless.


      I don't think they're meaningless. Inaccurate maybe. I can see how users of Firefox would visit certain sites more often than users of other browsers, and that could skew the numbers.
  • by asphaltjesus (978804) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:33AM (#19914073)
    /. needs to put the grammar nazis to better use.
  • Lose vs Loose (Score:5, Informative)

    by athloi (1075845) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:34AM (#19914091) Homepage Journal

    loose ground

    This is a hard one for non-native English speakers, because "lose" is pronounced so bizarrely it sounds like it needs two Os. However, "loose" is how we describe poor security, and "lose" is what happens when I try to play one of these newfangled video games. FYI, FWIW.

  • Europe (Score:5, Funny)

    by smith6174 (986645) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:34AM (#19914101)
    In Europe people are smarter and do things better. Deal with it.
  • Another poor dupe (Score:4, Informative)

    by CajunArson (465943) on Thursday July 19 2007, @09:37AM (#19914135) Journal
    1. This story is a dupe
    2. Yay firefox... but honestly is it all that important? How about discussing ways we can actually get firefox to perform better? Now that's a conversation actually worth having, but it might involve thinking instead of rabid fanboyism & MS hatred, so don't expect to see it on Slashdot.
    3. For the last freakin' time: Your mom is loose, you are just a loser can you finally get it right!!??!?!?!!
  • Witness the popularity of Jerry Lewis and David Hasselhoff.
  • Missing S (Score:4, Funny)

    by 6Yankee (597075) on Thursday July 19 2007, @11:57AM (#19916229)
    IE is, indeed, droppings.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      If you care that much about 60 megs of ram for an app that you're using, its time to get more ram.
    • Font appearance is a personal taste issue, although I cant tell the difference. How are you measuring RAM usage? Because it isn't the amount of RAM in the task manager you want to worry about. What you need to find out is what do the applications do when the system is low on resources. If firefox is a good little application and surrenders that RAM when the system needs it, then it doesn't matter if it is 'using' it at other times.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        The about:config setting you're looking for is config.trim_on_minimize. Set this true.

        I think this raises a point, though, in relation to browser share. The majority of users do not want to have to tweak anything. If they need to change Firefox configs in order to match performance under IE7, most would instead go back to IE7.[1]

        Personally, I don't think browser share is the ultimate measure of how good a browser Firefox is. The only reason why I think it's important that FF and other browsers eat away

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Yeah, too bad that's not exactly right.

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/loose [reference.com]

      A small sample:

      verb (used with object)
      20. to let loose; free from bonds or restraint.
      21. to release, as from constraint, obligation, or penalty.

      Over-generalising isn't going to help them remember. It'll only confuse them more when they encounter a less common usage, and think they've got it backwards again.