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Futurama Returns

Posted by CowboyNeal on Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:34 PM
from the now-zoidberg-is-the-popular-one dept.
GrumpySimon writes "Good news everyone! Straight from a one-eyed alien's mouth - 13 new episodes of Futurama have been confirmed by Katey Sagal on Craig Ferguson's Late Late Show. All the original actors have signed up too."

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[+] Interviews: Ask Futurama Star Billy West About...? 199 comments
In case you haven't heard, Futurama is coming back — in like 2008, so don't go channel-flipping in hope quite yet. This is the first interview Billy West (who voices Fry, Prof. Farnsworth, Zapp Brannigan, Zoidberg, and other Futurama characters) has done since the announcement. Realize, too, that Billy has also been the voices of Ren and Stimpy and hundreds of other animated characters over the years, and old-school Howard Stern fans will remember that part of his career, too. Ask Billy about anything you like; we'll send him 10 top-moderated questions (and maybe he'll answer a few extra ones of his choice, too). We expect to post his answers Wednesday, the day after Freedom Day's 21st Century predecessor, the 4th of July (which, sadly, is not known for nude hot tub parties). Meanwhile, to tide you over, here's a little MP3 voice montage Billy did in his home studio just for Slashdot.
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  • YAY! (Score:5, Funny)

    by B3ryllium (571199) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:35PM (#15587365)
    (http://www.beryllium.ca/)
    I love the smell of Slurm in the morning - it smells like ... walrus!
    • Re:YAY! (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2006, @12:27AM (#15587571)
      Considering that the recent thread on global warming is about to reach 600 posts, I think I should remind everyone that there is hope:

      Fry: This snow is beautiful. I'm glad global warming never happened.
      Leela: Actually it did. But thank God nuclear winter cancelled it out.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:YAY! by tolan-b (Score:3) Friday June 23 2006, @05:32AM
        • Re:YAY! (Score:5, Interesting)

          I don't think Futurama actually even tries to have a real continuity. In the beginning of the series, they make references to Star Trek all the time, but later on the name becomes a "forbidden word."

          I just think of it like I did the Simpsons in some jokes. Lisa once stated the Springfield Oil Field is 3 times the size of Texas. This means either they live in Alaska (possibly, I need to consult a map for scale) or it's a joke because it's too ridiculous to be true.
          [ Parent ]
          • Re:YAY! (Score:4, Insightful)

            by tolan-b (230077) on Friday June 23 2006, @06:47AM (#15588561)
            Yeah that was kinda what I was getting at.

            I suppose there's no real need for that sort of continuity, as long as the continuity for the main characters broadly fits together, and it gives them more room for humour without being penned in by what they did before.
            [ Parent ]
          • Logic? (Score:5, Informative)

            by PhYrE2k2 (806396) on Friday June 23 2006, @08:00AM (#15588861)
            Most shows have some kind of continuity and Futurama does. Sure they'll be a bit random and break rules at times (take that Bender is made of 40% of Zinc, 40% of Titanium and 40% of Dolomite- 120% for those of you who are reading this early in the morning), but in general unlike the Simpsons, the show progresses. The characters age, have different birthdays, refer to events in the past. You'll also notice the love between Fry and Leela developing. Take the later episodes like 'The Sting' where Fry takes a giant bee for Leela, and the many loving things they do that continues to bring them closer, as well as the same thing on the Amy side.

            PS: best episode ever: Jurassic Bark.... poor Seymour the dog.
            [ Parent ]
          • Re:YAY! by SamSim (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @10:11AM
            • Re:YAY! by Golias (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @05:21PM
          • Re:YAY! by Cyraan (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @02:12PM
            • Re:YAY! by tolan-b (Score:2) Saturday June 24 2006, @12:52PM
              • Re:YAY! by tolan-b (Score:1) Tuesday June 27 2006, @08:57AM
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        • Re:YAY! by amias (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @07:18AM
        • Re:YAY! by elrous0 (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:07AM
      • Re:YAY! by Alexandra Erenhart (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @10:42AM
      • Re:YAY! by voice_of_all_reason (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @11:14AM
        • Re:YAY! by camg188 (Score:1) Saturday June 24 2006, @01:25PM
      • Re:Continuity error by Traiklin (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @10:16AM
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    • Re:YAY! by ringmaster_j (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @01:29AM
    • Re:YAY! by rf0 (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @02:19AM
      • Re:YAY! by kannibal_klown (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @06:48AM
    • Re:YAY! by Xiaran (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @07:05AM
    • Re:YAY! by DarkShadeChaos (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @09:06AM
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  • by ackthpt (218170) * on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:35PM (#15587366)
    (http://www.dragonswest.com/ | Last Journal: Monday November 05, @07:35PM)

    While I applaud it, I remember the resurrection of Ren & Stimpy and how it just wasn't quite the same anymore. The making of a popular series can often rest on the frenzy of creating the episodes and the chemistry of those at work on it. Add an interruption, time for other projects and influences, what will become of pulling the team back together? Will it be the same, or will it be like, "well, Bender saying, 'bite my shiny metal asee' doesn't totally suck, but it's just, you know, different now."

    Other news in the It's About Time Department:
    In other good news, finally on DVD, Yellowbeard! Arr! July 27 for USA & Canada [amazon.com] or July 10 for UK [amazon.co.uk] No word yet on extras, like Group Madness, the documentary of making of the film.

  • Better News Everybody! (Score:5, Funny)

    by carterhawk001 (681941) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:38PM (#15587376)
    (Last Journal: Saturday June 12 2004, @11:19PM)
    All thirteen episodes will come in a suppository!
  • YES ! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Joebert (946227) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:44PM (#15587401)
    Complete with New shinier, easily bitable metal ass.
    • Re:YES ! by alshithead (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @12:07AM
    • Re:YES ! by Lurker187 (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @07:26AM
      • Re:YES ! by aslate (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @08:32AM
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  • by King Shazbot (742285) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:44PM (#15587402)
    Hip, hip, huzzah! Hip, hip, huzzah! Hip, ah screw it.
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  • choice quote (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:46PM (#15587410)
    Sweet Zombie Jesus!!!!
  • Santa is real! (Score:5, Funny)

    by RyanFenton (230700) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:47PM (#15587414)
    ...and apparantly, he's finally gotten around to having that *talk* with the folks at Fox.

    They've been VERY naughty this year. Now they must be trying to make up before Xmas.

    Ryan Fenton
  • I believe it 100%!!! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by denebian devil (944045) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:49PM (#15587418)
    Cuz the actors never get it wrong [slashdot.org].

    P.S. I feel like it's some futurama reference that my CAPTCHA was "breeder." Is Slashdot trying to say something about the human race?
  • Movies? (Score:5, Funny)

    by CompSciStud4U (877987) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:49PM (#15587419)
    I wonder if this will affect the 4 movies that are currently being planned. Ride the Walrus!
  • Good news everybody! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:50PM
  • HYPNOTOAD LIVES (Score:4, Funny)

    by Asbradley21 (984429) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:52PM (#15587428)
    HYPNOTOAD LIVES!!!!
  • *sigh* (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Jethro (14165) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:52PM (#15587430)
    That's too bad. Sure, I'm sad it ended, but it DID end well. Go figure what'll happen now.
    • Re:*sigh* by SoapDish (Score:3) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:59PM
      • Re:*sigh* by Jethro (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @12:08AM
  • F'in A Cotton, F'in A by jaxon6 (Score:2) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:53PM
  • by Progman3K (515744) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:53PM (#15587442)
    I know, that sounds sad, even for a geek, but what can I say: Futurama is my favorite show and if you don't like it, you can bite my shiny metal ass.
  • Does this make me happy? (Score:5, Funny)

    by ScaryFroMan (901163) <scaryfroman.hotmail@com> on Friday June 23 2006, @12:01AM (#15587475)
    Does this make me happy?
    Is the space pope reptilian?
  • Why so long? by SoapDish (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @12:03AM
  • Stewie Griffin by NivMizzet (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @12:06AM
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  • It's about time! I love Futurama but you can only watch that show so many hundreds of times.
  • by dark_requiem (806308) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:19AM (#15587555)
    Perhaps I'll breed some kind of albino shouting gorilla...
  • Who needs comedy central? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Arthur B. (806360) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:27AM (#15587574)
    Ok that's indeed great news... the sad news is Futurama is still dependent on Comedy Central. Why do shows still need this kind of deals? Idealy this would happen: There is an official Futurama web-site, they say they want a new season, they need US $ X to produce it. They sell shares on their website or through ebay using a dutch auction in order to finance the project. Geeks buy them. They make the episodes. They realase them on the internet in a non DRM format and using bittorrent so they don't have to pay for bandwith. People pay a small amount of money to download the .torrent file. If they want to pirate it anyway nothing will stop them so why bother with protection. Many people download that great show, the benefits are given to the shareholders. Everyone is happy. That's really what the RIAA really is affraid of. Artists now have a way to have vertical control, marketting, distribution etc. They claim to fight piracy but really want to make this come as late as they can. Once the artists realize they can actually make more money by short circuiting the distribution cartels a) price will also fall for the consummer b) more competition of works, more quality
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by michaelmateyko (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @01:15AM
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by dfjghsk (850954) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:40AM (#15587794)
      it costs 1-2 million dollars to produce each episode of Futurama. We could debate whether they could raise that kind of money over the internet..

      also, your model doesn't work for new shows.. if your model was in place before Futurama, it would have never been created.. people won't donate to a show they've never heard of and have no idea if they'll even like it.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by servognome (Score:3) Friday June 23 2006, @02:54AM
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? (Score:5, Informative)

      by mcrbids (148650) on Friday June 23 2006, @03:11AM (#15588027)
      Idealy this would happen: There is an official Futurama web-site, they say they want a new season, they need US $ X to produce it. They sell shares on their website or through ebay using a dutch auction in order to finance the project. Geeks buy them. They make the episodes. They realase them on the internet in a non DRM format and using bittorrent so they don't have to pay for bandwith. People pay a small amount of money to download the .torrent file. If they want to pirate it anyway nothing will stop them so why bother with protection. Many people download that great show, the benefits are given to the shareholders. Everyone is happy.

      You bitch needlessly. All the tools you need are but a few hundred dollars away!

      1) Registering a domain name and getting cheap-ass hosting costs less than a few hundred dollars per year.

      2) You can put a link to your project on your slashdot sig and get surprising amounts of attention that way.

      3) You only need to come up with an idea for a show, and recruit some star talent. Really, you're on your way already, since you have a business plan that's pretty detailed!

      Unless you aren't serious about your business plan. Maybe you wouldn't know a real business plan if it kicked you in the nards. Maybe the idea of actually doing anything outside your mother's basement scares you. In which case, your post is just so much whining and incoherent noise on a populate public blog. There's lots of that already.

      The proof of whether or not you have a good idea is in your ability to make it reality. Otherwise, it's just so much hot air, and thanks to global warming, we have more than enough of that.

      But, I suggest you give it a try. You'll either succeed, or learn lots about how the world around you works - either way, you win, and win BIG.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by kingsean (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @07:49AM
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by hagenman (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @07:59AM
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by Seldon_21 (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @08:22AM
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by elrous0 (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:22AM
    • Re:Who needs comedy central? by corbettw (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:40AM
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  • and brannigans antics
  • 2 F's down, 1 to go! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by CharAznable (702598) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:39AM (#15587614)
    First Family Guy, then Futurama. Where's Firefly?
  • But what about...? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mlow82 (889294) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:41AM (#15587620)
    Okay, so all of the original actors have signed up. But what I'd like to know is if all of the original writers have signed up.
  • Future Futurama to be... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Hymer (856453) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:50AM (#15587641)
    ...DRM'ed. "Geeks don't want DRM, geeks want Futurama (just see @ the Internet) so we will release new episodes of Futurama to sell DRM to those bloody nerds..."
    This is the only reason for Fox to start it again.

    --

    This is not a flamebait... this is bloody serious... Just wait'n'see.
  • I ask for just one thing by Quiet_Desperation (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @12:57AM
  • Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (Score:5, Funny)

    by trogdor8667 (817114) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:01AM (#15587678)
    (http://www.squarextreme.com/)
    Professor: Good news everyone. While Fox's quality programming is out of our reach, Comedy Control has decided to take us for some new episodes.
    Fry: Don't you mean Comedy Central?
    Leela: No, Comedy Control. Comedy was outlawed in the year 2045, during the Great War with the Neptutians. Comedy Control comes around and kills everyone involved with animated shows.
  • "Good news everyone!" by Mike Peel (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @01:07AM
  • Actors? by Trojan35 (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @01:23AM
  • Hurray for ZOIDBERG! by pwgawron (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @01:29AM
  • Holy Crap! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2006, @01:34AM (#15587772)
    Holy crap! I can't believe it-- someone was actually watching Craig Ferguson!
    • Re:Holy Crap! by mattkinabrewmindspri (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @01:56AM
    • Re:Holy Crap! by Kaenneth (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @02:04PM
  • *crosses fingers* (Score:4, Insightful)

    by SamSim (630795) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:41AM (#15587797)
    (http://qntm.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday May 06 2006, @09:26AM)
    please not have jumped the shark please not have jumped the shark please not have jumped the shark
  • Good news... kind of. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Arimus (198136) on Friday June 23 2006, @02:07AM (#15587869)
    Good news on the surface but until it is confirmed the original writers have signed up I won't be keeping too many expectations of the new series.

    The actors can be replaced, the writing team can not - not if you want to keep the same style of humour.
  • The box by OverflowingBitBucket (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @02:21AM
  • De ja vu by Mantrid42 (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @02:48AM
  • by IHC Navistar (967161) on Friday June 23 2006, @02:54AM (#15587986)
    "Let the feast of a thousand hams begin!"

    -----

    Sig Sauer

  • You're Welcome, Guys... by TheoMurpse (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @03:56AM
  • And the writers? by Ed Avis (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @04:02AM
  • I swear! by Opportunist (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @05:20AM
    • Re:I swear! by ZaMoose (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @05:52AM
    • Re:I swear! by Andy Gardner (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @06:25AM
  • Even my two year old likes Futurama by limabone (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @06:46AM
  • Fooled, again? by Ice Wewe (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @07:21AM
  • Fool's Gold by kahrytan (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @07:22AM
    • Fool's Gold pt2 by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @07:30AM
  • Wow - that's great news! by beaverfever (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @07:57AM
  • WHO/WHAT/WHEN/WHERE! by Seldon_21 (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @08:14AM
  • She's not an alien. by computersareevil (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @08:27AM
  • 2008? That's not soon enough! by fak3r (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:24AM
  • One-eyed alien? by Conspiracy_Of_Doves (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:24AM
  • HUZZAH! by dkfjunk (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @09:33AM
  • I just hope it doesn't turn into... by Cheeze (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:39AM
  • Heard it all before. by brjndr (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @09:58AM
  • Thank God! by ezeecheez (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @09:59AM
  • Not to be Devil's Advocate, by TheSkepticalOptimist (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @10:27AM
  • Finaly by darky83 (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @10:40AM
  • slashdot easter egg by desiderius7 (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @10:59AM
  • If I Don't Survive... by Wolvie MkM (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @11:20AM
  • Leela's a mutant! by witch (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @12:54PM
  • I have a coment to make. by jotaeleemeese (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @01:20PM
  • Are we sure? by mr_zorg (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @03:03PM
  • before this one goes into yesterday's news by mgabrys_sf (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @04:26PM
  • This is great news!!! by AyeRoxor! (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @08:11PM
  • Subject by Legion303 (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @09:51PM
  • Oblig Bender Parody by cybercobra (Score:1) Friday June 30 2006, @12:03AM
  • Re:Futurama by whichpaul (Score:1) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:53PM
  • Re:Futurama by kaufmanmoore (Score:1) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:54PM
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  • Re:All the original actors? (Score:4, Informative)

    by OzRoy (602691) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:57PM (#15587454)
    Phil Hartman was never in Futurama. He died in 1998. Futurama started in 1999.
    [ Parent ]
    • Hang on... by Hamster Lover (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @12:15AM
      • Re:Hang on... (Score:5, Informative)

        by OzRoy (602691) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:40AM (#15587616)
        My reply was in response to the GP's post suggesting Phil Hartman was one of the actors who worked on Futurama. He wasn't.

        The character Zapp Branigan was written for him, but he died before they started production, so Billy West took the part instead and happen to play the character in a similar way to Phil Hartman's audition.

        [ Parent ]
    • Re:All the original actors? by bitt3n (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @05:29AM
  • Re:Futurama by toddhunter (Score:2) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:57PM
  • Re:All the original actors? by Jfleegle (Score:1) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:57PM
  • Re:Futurama (Score:3, Interesting)

    by CompSciStud4U (877987) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:59PM (#15587463)

    I think the issue is exactly that they don't have to worry about what happened last week if the writers don't want to. That the characters don't have to age. I live in the real world. When I watch TV I don't want reality. I want something different. Something to tickle my imagination. And the surreal world of many cartoons is great for that. A show like Doctor Who doesn't appeal to me as much, because I would much rather pick up a book and supply a much cooler image of a sci-fi world in my own head.

    That being said, Futurama isn't the best example to be picking on for nothing ever changing. The series did have an advancing plot and the important events of previous episodes did matter in future ones. Individual events didn't matter as much, but the evolution of the character's relationships to each other definitely progressed based on the events of the show. I also felt it was much better written then other popular cartoons and didn't rely as much on mind-numbing pop-culture references.

    [ Parent ]
    • Re:Futurama by DahGhostfacedFiddlah (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @11:31AM
  • Re:Futurama by Zebai (Score:1) Thursday June 22 2006, @11:59PM
  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Insightful)

    by heinousjay (683506) on Thursday June 22 2006, @11:59PM (#15587466)
    (Last Journal: Sunday October 07, @01:01AM)
    The problem is that everyone thinks they have a sense of humor, even when they don't.
    [ Parent ]
  • Re:Futurama (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Se7enLC (714730) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:00AM (#15587468)
    (http://www.jeffornot.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 14 2007, @09:56AM)
    Futurama does have order to it, and I can't think of any time where it just leave you right where you started with no explanation. Some examples of things that carry between episodes:

    - Nibbler shows up and sticks around, the order of those episodes has some significance
    - Leela's parents are discovered, then are characters on the show after that.
    - Farnsworth's clone is created and is in future episodes.

    Just to name a few.

    typically everything that happens is straightened out by the end of the episode as needed. It's just not in the typical cartoon genre to have numerous-episode-arcs, because reruns are not often shown in order.

    And PS, the "OMG PONIES! AND NEW FUTURAMA EPISODES!!" is *really* old news. I assume this number of episodes is really just the dvds that were mentioned months ago. It's been on adult swim bumps for awhile now.
    [ Parent ]
    • Re:Futurama by SamSim (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @07:10AM
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Interesting)

    by afaik_ianal (918433) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:01AM (#15587477)
    One week Lisa will be super smart and a veggie and the next week suddenly she's as dumb as Bart and eating a pork chop. So WTF?

    Dude - It's just a cartoon.

    Someone please explain to me how this sort of thing is more popular than something with a real plot or something which is really funny?

    Noone's really saying that Futurama is better than Dr Who, but that doesn't mean it's not enjoyable. Plot? No way. Funny? Absolutely! More importantly, it's just entertaining.

    it seems to be more "Well theres nothing better to watch" than "wow! I must catch it this week" as other series

    That's something I love about these kind of shows. You don't need to make the investment to watch them. I hate it that I can't watch a lot of "running plot" shows because I know I'm going to miss a bunch of them. With Futurama/Simpsons, I can just watch them if I'm free.
    [ Parent ]
    • Stirring defence of Futurama and the Simpsons there. But I think you're pretty much wrong in everything you say. To respond to your three main points:

      1. The characters in the Simpsons are surprisingly consistent; the clearly distinct characters and their traits are one of the shows great strengths. Lisa is BOTH intelligent AND a member of the archetypal working class family; these are not mutually exclusive, and the show is subtle enough to deal with this.

      2. Futurama IS better than Dr Who whichever way you spin it (allowing for taste), and its PLOTS are amongst its great strengths. When you compare the Simpsons to Futurama, one thing that is very apparent is that Futurama has much more comprehensive, less formulaic, better written storylines. The episodes, and the series, feature an internal logic which is stronger than the Simpsons, or indeed almost any other comedy other than Seinfeld or Arrested Development.

      In many cases the humour is directly derived from the strength of the plot. For example, Fry travels back in time and becomes his own grandfather. As a result, he is unique in the universe, and his uniqueness ties in to the whole Nibblonian vs Brains subplot. Similarly, Leela's origins story is tightly woven throughout the various episodes and across the series. I know for a fact that Groening, Cohen and co set out to write lengthy thematic arcs which in some cases spanned series 1-4 inclusive.

      If you think it's a plot-less cartoon with jokes, you're not really watching it.

      3. Well, this basically explains why you think what you think. I agree to the extent that each episode of Futurama is self-contained. However, they are also intricately linked with other episodes, and you miss a lot of important context and detail from some episodes if you treat them as a one-off 'adventure'.

        Try watching Futurama, in order, from start to finish. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
      [ Parent ]
      • by afaik_ianal (918433) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:35AM (#15587775)
        The characters in the Simpsons are surprisingly consistent

        I never said otherwise - I was just hassling my PP for overanalysing. What next? "Oh, but at the end of The Simpson's 3D, homer ends up in the real world, but then in the next episode he's back in the Simpson's universe!". Or "Buffy is just so fake: There's no such thing as vampires!"

        Futurama IS better than Dr Who whichever way you spin it

        No. Like many people here (yourself included), I prefer Futurama to Dr Who. Anyone who tries to argue that one successful show is better than another successful show is an idiot, and you might as well be trying to prove the existence or non-existence of god, or the general superiority of one OS over another. It's a personal thing. One is better than the other for you.

        Try watching Futurama, in order, from start to finish. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

        I have - many times. The first time I watched it, I watched it out of order. Yes, I didn't pick up on the exact history behind each character, but I didn't miss out on any important story-line elements. (Ok - so the same is probably actually true for Dr Who, but there are many other shows where missing a couple of episodes makes the later ones not worth watching).

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      • I know for a fact that Groening, Cohen and co set out to write lengthy thematic arcs which in some cases spanned series 1-4 inclusive.
        In fact, when it is revealed that Nibbler pushes Fry into the cryogenic freezer, they show his (Nibbler's) shadow on the wall. If you go back to the pilot episode when it originally happened, Nibbler's shadow is on the wall.

        I was amazed that the writing team had thought that far ahead.
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    • Re:Futurama by Joebert (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @03:02AM
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Progman3K (515744) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:02AM (#15587479)
    Humour is like colour; I can't explain to you WHY I like blue, I just do.
    Even if you try to persuade me for hours that red is a much better colour, you won't be able to win me over.

    In short, nods to classic bits of comedy coupled with a great sense of absurd and sprinklings of science make a cartoon I love to watch. I love the voice-work in Futurama too, great characterizations.
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Interesting)

    by alunduil (859510) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:02AM (#15587480)
    It's funny simply becuase it is. I enjoy the more scientific humour of the show. Things like winning by a quantum difference (I know I'm misquoting this) being responded with things like: "No fair! You changed the result by measuring it" It adds a humour for the physicist in me. Regards, Alunduil
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  • Like the NRA man said by roman_mir (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @12:03AM
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Quantum Fizz (860218) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:04AM (#15587488)
    I'll attempt a response.

    In a nutshell, shows like Simpsons, Family Guy, The Critic, and Futurama make me laugh, and greatly entertain me for their 30 minute duration. Okay, there's a dud episode every now and then, but for the most part they're really fun. And funny. There have been a few scenes from these that would just make me laugh a few days later when I would think about it, for instance.

    The fact that it bothers you that Lisa's mental acuity isn't entirely consistent from one episode to the next sort of implies you're greatly outside the demographic they're looking for, in which case I'd suggest stick with the shows that really make you happy. I watch these shows for their comedic value, not for a consistent basis upon which to do a comparative literary analysis.

    Similarly, there are shows that other people love that I can't stand at all (eg Everybody Loves Raymond). it's all your own personal tastes. Regarding not liking the Simpsons, my Mom cannot get into the Simpsons either. She's tried and either doesn't get the jokes or just doesn't think they're funny whatsoever.

    That said, at the end of your post you mention other shows that are 'really funny'. Can you give an example? I'm not trolling you either, just curious what you find funny.

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    • Re:Futurama by Gulthek (Score:2) Friday June 23 2006, @07:36AM
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Durinthal (791855) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:06AM (#15587500)
    You apparently didn't watch much of Futurama, in that case. Time actually did advance [wikipedia.org] over the course of the show, starting in 3000 and ending in 3004. Relationships between characters also changed over time.

    As for why Futurama is popular.. you may not find it funny, but a lot of people do. I, for one, like that there's a lot of geek jokes in there. One that I can think of off the top of my head was that there were a pair of books in the background [appstate.edu] of one scene labeled P and NP [wikipedia.org].
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  • Re:Neat by afaik_ianal (Score:1) Friday June 23 2006, @12:11AM
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Insightful)

    by soft_guy (534437) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:17AM (#15587546)
    Maybe its just me, but I don't get why there is always one guy who feels the need to ask questions like this, or alternatively state that he hates a particular obscure thing. Its not like anyone is trying to shove Futurama down someone's throat. It is like going to a Star Trek convention and standing around saying, "You know, I really don't understand the appeal of this show!" There are a ton of shows on TV that are not Futurama - why not go watch one of them instead of commenting here to the effect that you don't like Futurama?

    Hell, there are a ton of other Slashdot articles you could be commenting on. Perhaps you could have found one that interested you. But no, you had to click on the Futurama article just so you could post a comment musing about the lack of appeal Futurama has for you.

    It kind of reminds me of people who love Windows and hate the Macintosh. OK, your favorite computer platform has 90+ percent of the market, so why go seek out places online where Mac people congregate and try to rain on their parade? They have less than 5% of the market. Leave them alone. Hell, I've seen people go onto Atari ST forums and say ridiculous things to the effect that the Atari ST is long dead and ST enthusiasts should just move on and get a Windows PC. Was that you?

    When you see a kid playing with a balloon, do you have an uncontrollable urge to go and stick a pin in it?

    There are a lot of things that do not appeal to everyone. Sane people ignore them. Personally I have no interest in Chritianity. That doesn't mean I show up to church every Sunday and say, "You know, I just don't understand the appeal...could you explain it to me?" It would be gouche and idiotic to do so.

    "Not trolling"? Bite my shiny metal ass!
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:4, Insightful)

    flamebait...

    My take was that it was consistant that Lisa was a little hippie shitdisturber. Maybe you watched an OLDER episode where they haven't yet developed that trait? Simpsons is popular because it's older than most of the audience. It came out in the late 80s. I was babysitting kids born in the 90s who liked the show even though their first memories of the show were probably from 1996 onward.

    Futurama is funny because it's silly and creative. Family guy is funny because it's a bit more adult and off the wall. South park is funny because they're highly objective and use hyperbole.

    That doesn't mean EVERY episode is comedy gold. But normally people tend to watch the series not just specific episodes which means watching the occasional shit-fill-the-season-out episode.

    Tom
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:3)

    by 0racle (667029) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:29AM (#15587582)
    It's funny because it's poisonous.
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  • Re:Get yer facts straight! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by geminidomino (614729) * on Friday June 23 2006, @12:30AM (#15587586)
    (http://www.mangaschool.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday January 03 2006, @07:51AM)
    Spoilers, dude!!!!
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Infernal Device (865066) on Friday June 23 2006, @12:33AM (#15587598)
    Maybe it's just me but, I don't get why futurama is popular.

    Because it's not about you.
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:3, Funny)

    by kv9 (697238) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:10AM (#15587705)
    (http://hive.ro/)

    yadda-yadda, I'm too good for animation

    perhaps its the big stick up your shiny metal ass?

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  • by Dachannien (617929) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:11AM (#15587706)
    (http://www.unity08.com/)
    Quoth the Incompetent Robot Elders:

    Silence!!!

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2006, @01:11AM (#15587709)
    Futurama does indeed have long-term plot elements, more so than most live action television shows (and at least comparable with Doctor Who and its Daleks and Cybermen). Generally the plot centers around Fry.

    - Fry and the Brains (and the Nibblonians)
    During the series it transpires that Fry is the only human being capable of resisting the psionic attacks of the Brains, a group of free-flying brain beings that want to take over/destroy the universe. Fry's brain waves are different from other peoples because Fry, as a result of events in the episode "Roswell that Ends Well", is his own grandfather.

    In the first encounter with the Brains Fry is abducted by Nibbler, who is not only Leela's pet, but also an agent of the ancient and stupendously powerful Nibblonians (which explains why he was the only one of his kind on the planet where he was found). Nibbler explains Fry's abnormality and assists him in fending off the Brains' attack on earth. After Fry succeeds Nibbler wipes Fry's memory (everyone else was too stupefied by the Brains to remember what happened) and resumes his life as Leela's pet.

    Later, in The Why of Fry, we learn that Fry was not frozen by accident. In fact Fry was brought into the future by Nibbler, whose much younger self was present on New Years' Eve '99, and who gave Fry the nudge that tipped him backwards into the cryogenic chamber. In this episode Fry is press ganged into service to destroy the Brains' ultimate project, a device that will acquire all knowledge in the universe and then destroy the universe to prevent its knowledge from becoming outdated.

    Once Fry is inside the Mega-Brain and has activated the bomb with which he is to destroy it, the Brains reveal what Nibbler did to Fry and offer Fry a choice - he can stay there, blow up the Mega Brain and vanish along with it due to the failure of his escape scooter, or he can let the Mega Brain catapult him back in time to the space-time nexus centred on his own fall into the cryochamber.

    Fry elects to travel back, and in fact initially prevents Nibbler from knocking him into the tube, until Nibbler persuades him that he should sacrifice himself and fulfill his predestined mission, because...

    - Fry Loves Leela
    Fry has an unrequited passion for Leela throughout most of the series. In a sense there is a lack of follow through here, because they do pull kind of a "will they/won't they?" thing, but Fry does succeed in communicating the depth of his feelings at times, and when he wins the devil's hands and uses them to make a holophoner opera in Leela's honour Leela realises that Fry has a depth of character and feeling that is concealed by his physical and social clumsiness.

    - Leela and Her Parents
    As someone else mentioned here, Leela's parent enter the series late in the piece and stick around. In fact I was surprised that nobody responded to the "straight from the alien's mouth" in the article by pointing out that Leela, as we discover when her parents emerge, is not an alien but a mutant, whose xenolinguist parents left her at an orphanage with a note in an invented alien script, so that she would be taken for an alien and avoid the apartheid-style restrictions places on mutants. This is a major shift for Leela both in the sense that earlier episodes made much of her search for her species and homeworld, and in that at least two episodes towards the end of the series are heavily concerned with her relationship with her newfound parents.

    - Amy and Kif
    Amy, the engineering student from Mars, and Kif, Zapp Brannigan's XO, fall in love early in the series and their developing romance is the subject of multiple episodes throughout subsequent seasons.

    i'm sure there are other examples of long-term continuity that have slipped my mind, but really nobody could accuse Futurama of forgeting its past.
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  • Re:Futurama (Score:4, Interesting)

    by mgabrys_sf (951552) on Friday June 23 2006, @01:48AM (#15587813)
    (Last Journal: Friday February 17 2006, @06:59AM)
    I'd have to say mostly - you can't compare Futurama to the Simpsons.

    The second of the two jumped the shark a while ago - although it came back from the groaner pile a bit it never compared to Futurama which was just getting a decent groove when Fox pre-empted it into oblivion.

    After Futurama came out - the Simpsons seemed just wholesale tame by comparrison and even in some of the comentator tracks on the DVDs you could see where Matt G.'s passion was going (or at least more of it). It's not just the geek factor - it's the ubber geek factor that made it great among other things. Plus not having to be tied down to earth led to a much broader swath of possiblities - continuity be damned. Or at least horribly twisted if one recalls brain-burners like the Farnsworth parallel universe boxes. That was a particularly fun episode.

    I don't really know where I'm going with this so I'll just stop now.
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