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Comment: Re:The elephant in the summery (Score 1) 155

by fireboy1919 (#32685362) Attached to: Study Finds Google Is More Trusted Than Traditional Media

Since they do totally different things the comparison is meaningless

Not totally different. They do one overlapping thing: they issue statements to the public.

trust in a very generic way means our belief that they'll do their "given task"

I didn't say that. I didn't imply that. I was very specific in my definition of trust, and I think this definition is rather obviously gleaned from the survey, and, in fact, that the definition of trust as "reliably telling the truth" is actually used at least as frequently as "behave predictably in doing what they do," if not more so. It isn't terribly meaningful to survey people about whether or not they trust that they can predict the behavior of one group more than another (at least, not nearly so as the alternative). So...as I said, it is a bit obtuse to completely ignore the context and select the wrong definition of truth as the one that they mean. Perhaps I was wrong...you did get a lot of moderation there.

They want to sell it to me, even if they have to lie to do so. With traditional media, truth sells...some of the time, anyway. If a paper always lies, they're not going to have as many sales. With corporations, they just call that marketing.

...and once again you drive home my other point. Living in a world where people don't know the difference between marketing (or, as the case may be, newspaper bias) and lying sucks. They aren't the same thing. Lying is much, much worse.

Comment: Re:Don't let reality get in the way of your anger (Score 1) 1217

by fireboy1919 (#32684872) Attached to: MA High School Forces All Students To Buy MacBooks

These are students being taught for their future and will need the skills required for their future jobs. Pushing the Mac platform is a horrible idea and a form of playing russian roulette with their computer skills and future job possibilities.

Keeping in mind what is possible through *freely available* VMs, and the programs that are available on any platform, if the skillset that you gain in high school computer usage is so specific that you *need* a windows machine to do your work, because it probably means that you need Windows 7, and won't even be flexible enough to handle Windows 8.

Regardless of anyones personal opinion of computer OS's, Windows still rules in both the personal and business OS level. And I don't care what anyone else has to say on the level of 'but, but, Macs are slowly gaining.' Thats great for Mac. But here's a good dose of reality. OSX was released in March of 2001. Its now June of 2010, just over 9 years later. Mac has been able to improve its market share from 1-2% to 6-9%. That means less then one in 10 computers is a Mac even after 9 years and one hell of an aggressive marketing campaign (we've all seen those 'Pc vs Mac' commercials).

None of this stuff matters. I can go sit down at a Mac, PC, linux box, whatever. Tell me how to get to the word processor. Tell me how to get to the software that I use the most.

The school is also mentioning security as an issue, but thats getting more and more of a questionable problem. Fact of the matter is, Windows 7 is pretty secure (but not the most secure). And computer security is no longer as simple as how fast a virus/worm can spread. This keeps being shown on the Pwn2Own contests, as security is now based on what else is running on the computer. The biggest security risk seems to be running Flash on the system.

Do you think, from an administrative level, that it's ever been about that? That's just a symptom of the problem. The biggest security risk is stupid users, and nothing you do can stop them from getting their computers infected with something. The cure is having separation of security concerns to limit the damage, and it's still more of a (only a) problem for Windows than it is for anything else. If I was a computer administrator that had to support 1600 laptops that I didn't actually have control over, I would want something to make it easy to fix them and isolate problems.

Also to consider is things like hardware compatibility. Most hardware is written to support Windows, with some to little to no support for Mac. Sure, Macs play great with other Mac hardware but if Apple doesn't make it things get iffy (again, depends on what it is your talking about exactly). These students go home and will want to use their laptops with their devices at home. Have a blackberry phone? Good luck doing anything but the basics of syncing (and no, showing me some complex set of instructions doesn't count. We are talking students of different interests and backgrounds, not the slashdot crowd). Printers and scanners?

From the perspective of the school, though, the things that they're going to worry about are the things that everybody has and that teachers are actively told to encourage the use of. And it's a lot easier to support 1600 identical machines than it is a huge number of completely different kind of machines.

I completely agree with you here. These are students being taught for their future and will need the skills required for their future jobs. Pushing the Mac platform is a horrible idea and a form of playing russian roulette with their computer skills and future job possibilities.

In summary: the premise that a particular piece of software is necessary to gain an understanding of how computers, technology, or anything that one would learn in high school is ridiculous. Of course, if I ever have children, I'm sure that mine will be unbelievably competitive compared to yours if you teach 'em that full mastery of how to navigate windows and use office products will take them somewhere in life while I'm teaching them the underlying concepts that govern how all computers work. ;)

Comment: Re:The elephant in the summery (Score 1) 155

by fireboy1919 (#32676482) Attached to: Study Finds Google Is More Trusted Than Traditional Media

Well...the poll is clearly trusting its readers to be able to glean the rather obvious context of "trust" from the question.

We're asking how much we trust news outlets, google, apple, and Microsoft to tell us the truth.

And I have to say, the news seems to have done a fantastic job at indoctrinating us with their crap.
Looking through this thread, I don't see a single article that differentiates between "bias" and "lies."

If we're going to talk about semantics, that's a lot more important. There must be a line of trust beyond which any transgression makes me trust that you're trying to fool me into believing something that you don't believe.
And past that line we're not talking about bias.

This is why I don't trust MS as much as traditional media. I know that they will never tell me when their product isn't suitable to my needs (which usually happens because it isn't ready for market yet). They want to sell it to me, even if they have to lie to do so. With traditional media, truth sells...some of the time, anyway. If a paper always lies, they're not going to have as many sales. With corporations, they just call that marketing.

Comment: Re:No sensible, honest person would work for HP? (Score 1) 651

by fireboy1919 (#32338062) Attached to: HP Explains Why Printer Ink Is So Expensive

Sounds like there's a design flaw in the rubber that's being used...or in the ink that most everybody makes. I would much rather have a printer that makes due with any kind of ink over one that requires super-fancy-awesome ink.

Perhaps the flaw is using ink at all, rather than using heated powder?

In any case, I don't really care if they've solved the our-ink-doesn't-destroy-our-printers problem, because the actual problem that I want solved is "how do I convert this image on my computer into a printout?" If the tech that does this has a huge number of ancillary problems that come up because of it's weaknesses, then perhaps it isn't the best solution.

Perhaps we should be using laser. I've got a laserjet 5si that I've had for years. I use 30 pages per week. I get a new cartridge once every five years or so. The last one cost me $30. The printer cost me $100. When a part on the machine wears out, I buy a new one. This has happened once, and I paid $30.

We have no economic reason to buy into this game. Laser looks absolutely fantastic.

Comment: Re:Except of course it isn't REALLY that simple... (Score 2, Informative) 163

by fireboy1919 (#26735759) Attached to: Scientists Create Compound With a Single Element

You're saying that there's no such thing as table salt. This is obviously false.

Compounds with strong ionic bonds tend to disassociate completely in water forming the constituent ions (completely being as previously indicated - not really complete).

However, the moment that they leave the water, they're back to what they were - full molecules again.

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