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Google Launches Pay-Per-View Web Video
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Elliot Shepherd writes "According to John Batelle, on Monday Google is launching in-browser video playback based on VLC. Google has been accepting video uploads in April, including allowing the video owner to specify that payment is required, through the Google Payment Program." Update: 06/27 22:21 GMT by T : An anonymous reader writes "Google Video is now up. The about page describes what kinds of content has been uploaded to their servers so far -- mostly a random assortment of stuff from Gamespot's archives, a few things from Greenpeace, a Google recruiting video, some breakdancing videos, and other randomness. The in-browser video plugin works seamlessly (although Windows only for now). Looks like it has potential." Check the top entry on Google Blog for a few more words on it, too.
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Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Mirror (Score:5, Insightful)
Good thing. At least now i don't have to wait for someone linkify things in case of slashdotting. Couldn't we get this thing included into 'Related links'?
Re:Mirror (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.stereo.lu/)
According to the user info:
Re:Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
0) Get Firefox
1) Install Greasemonkey [mozdev.org]
2) get this extension [uni-magdeburg.de]
--> Every
Scary... (Score:5, Funny)
So no matter what you search for, you're likely to come across a movie of someone etching "penis" in the snow
Codec compatibility (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Codec compatibility (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://paperlined.org/)
And then along came webbrowsers, and suddenly every image produced was either JPEG or GIF. And it was good.
Re:Codec compatibility (Score:4, Informative)
(http://singinst.org/)
The legal way to get those codecs is to download and install each official player+codec combo, and then use your choice of player to use the codec; even then their EULA may say you can't use the codec separate from THEIR player.
Howerver the best way to get the codecs -- but not technically legal way, because of software patent BS -- is to google for and download what's called a "codec pack". The best one for Windoze is called the "K-Lite Mega Codec Pack" [free-codecs.com], which comes with Media Player Classic, BSPlayer, as well as almost every video/audio codec under the sun. For Linux, the best (and only?) codec pack available is the MPlayer essential codec pack [mplayerhq.hu], which is actually just an archive of windows .dll codecs, which MPlayer, VLC, and other players will fall back on if there is no open source alternative codec to use.
Re:Codec compatibility (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 15 2007, @08:00PM)
Content control? (Score:5, Interesting)
Is every file looked through to make sure it's not copyrighted? Or if the file depicts illegal activity, etc?
On the same note, would Google take files out if someone paid them to (eg. insulting clips, though not illegal, may tarnish a reputable name or something)
But what about the patents problem? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashgeo.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday October 17, @09:03AM)
TFA says nothing about patents problems that VLC and other media players are facing (see http://www.videolan.org/patents.html [videolan.org]). But with Google in the bandwagon, I guess this problem can be solved with a win on the open source front :-)
Reminds me of my childhood (Score:4, Funny)
After viewing the video: "This message will self destruct in 5 seconds".
CPU emulator (Score:1, Interesting)
You may think this is illegal, but the fact that it is simply possible, shows that selling information like this is stupid. (Any links to downloadable mpeg of college_dork?)
Misleading Title (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://netsoc.tcd.ie/~irokie/)
"Plenty of folks uploaded video to Google with a payment option, and that has yet to roll out"
What next... (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.tomduff.net/)
Sign me up.
To pay or not to pay...? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://mompp.sourceforge.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday December 15 2005, @08:11PM)
Movie "rentals" aren't out of the question, to be sure...
===
Admitedly, I've tried one (albeit for free, as the network was in beta)
Essentially its needs its own web browser, so I guess technically Google's got a leg up (and their video format is different, Ruckus uses WMV)
Probably not.
Someone might, I suppose, but how many need to before it becomes profitable?
Re:To pay or not to pay...? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:To pay or not to pay...? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.webwayone.co.uk/)
Pr0n (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.legalresourcecentre.ca/)
And version 8.2.2 of VLC was released yesterday (Score:4, Informative)
google = content brokers (Score:5, Interesting)
Microsoft and Linux and MacOSX might actually be on the way out, or at least on the way to obscurity. All of these offer interfaces to the computer, and that's useful in its own way, but I think one thing that Google has figured out is that mastery of the computer is a means to an end, not an end unto itself. It's throwing an abstracted layer over the top of it all and owning that layer, and making it useful enough that people eventually aren't going to care what OS they're running, so long as it'll give us what google has to offer.
Google maps. Translation services. Multimedia access. Shopping/Pricing comparison. News. Wikipedia (well, not exclusively, but you get my point). Limitless-space email. They're coming closer to giving us what we expect computers to give their users in Sci-Fi movies.
Google's on the verge of becoming THE content broker. What's odd is that from this point of view, Yahoo is more of a player than Microsoft at this point. But they've got to be worrying. Most of what google's done has been collecting and mining, but with Google maps developing the way it is, it's obvious that they're doing more than just throwing a bunch of computer clusters at a problem.
Anyways, if this is what they're about, the consistency behind all their new forays, then maybe Microsoft's already lost the battle to Google, but they're stuck on what no longer matters as much, which is people's relationship to the computer. Google, by focusing on people's relationship to the content, is miles ahead now.
Yeah, yeah, -1 full of shit or totally obvious, but I really think this is the way it's going.
Few details (Score:5, Interesting)
Me: How are you going to protect copyrighted material from being copied?
Google: We're working on that.
Me: You say video can be free or fee based. How does that work?
Google: We'd prefer free content, but you can also charge a fee. We will have a payment mechanism in place.
Me: In a fee-based scenario, what "cut" does Google want?
Google: We haven't decided.
Me: What if I upload free content and a LOT of people like/view it? How does Google make money?
Google: We reserve the right to charge the uploader if the content becomes "very popular."
Me: Define "very popular".
Google: We don't know yet.
Me: Why should I upload content if you can't answer these basic questions?
Google: You just should.
So unless they're just planning to get lots of home videos, I didn't see any real incentive for a content provider to participate. It costs real money to produce content so companies aren't going to just give it away.
Cheers,
about time ! (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.marsdude.com/)
Paying for it... (Score:4, Interesting)
Call it an iTunes for everything that's not music, an Amazon for self-published eBooks, or an eBay for digital content, whatever you call it, there might well be space there for a big player...?
Some schmuchks blog is news now? (Score:1, Interesting)
TFA discusses Open Source Implications (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.thebrickt...assacre/jg21_11.html | Last Journal: Tuesday December 20 2005, @06:19AM)
When I first heard about the Google's video hosting service, I thought, "SO WHAT."
But if others set up compatible porn video streamers, and others make firefox work with the video service well, then suddenly the combination of the video streaming and the video features (built in to browser) suddenly make them "gotta have" features --- esp. if porn video sites pop up.
Suddenly IE and WMV start looking totally behind the times. MicroSoft won't be able to integrate those features cheaply if they are done under a GPL: they are totally hosed, and have to play an expensive catchup game. Fine -- they do "embrace and extend", but it will cost them a lot of time and money.
In the meanwhile, pornlovers will have switched over, and M$ will be looking pretty useless.
If the people at Google are doing this on purpose, you have to give them credit for doing to Billy what he's done to so, so many others!
Buy my video!!! (Score:5, Interesting)
They would run around everywhere there might be something remotely interesting going on and capture it. Then they'd copyright it and offer it for sale. If someone wanted it, they paid a royalty and could download it. It was all centered around some big company with lots of storage that made money off of hosting the video and getting it copyrighted. Kind of a higher-tech paparazzi, I guess.
What about pirated video? (Score:1)
(http://www.understandfinance.com/)
I can just imagine this.... (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Wednesday September 07 2005, @04:08PM)
Video-Based
Text-Based
Video version would have a welcome, like this:
"Welcome to Interactive porn, Ladies and Gentlemen, with Pay-Per-View Premium Video WebCam Shows to assist your Masturbatory Habits."
Text version would have a welcome, like this:
"Welcome to Interactive porn, Ladies and Gentlemen, It's like those Pay-Per-View WebCam Shows without the money, and in text form. Pr0n."
From TFA (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://wod.home.dyndns.org/)
Of course they do, VLC is a GPL license project...
Google Video Uploader Screenshot (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.eonestudio.com/)
VLC (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Friday October 01 2004, @08:18AM)
I am happy to see google going to this pay per view system on the web, they look like they might actually pull it off and we can start seeing the real value of some video going on the internet.
Gargoyles? (Score:1, Redundant)
(http://haltingpoint.blogspot.com/)
Depending on the prices people are willing to pay, and the amount of protection involved to prevent your "proprietary clips" from being leaked out to free websites, this could really help usher in some real leaps in portable video recording technology as people start to become "gargoyles".
What I'd really like to get my hands on is a system that is constantly recording to one drive, but overwrites after say....10 minutes, or 5 minutes, and then I have a button that lets me save the past amount of time to a second drive if I decide content was valuable enough to save permanently. It could have a wifi setup as well and a wearable interface as well so not only could I edit my content on the go, but I could also upload it right away to Google's service and start making money.
Does anybody know if any such thing exists?
Goes along with broadband (Score:1)
(http://www.bemmu.com/ | Last Journal: Friday August 22 2003, @10:01AM)
By the way, have you ever noticed how Larry and Sergey seem to be inseparable?
Almost like they spend every waking hour together.
Ever thought that maybe it means something [bemmu.com]?
Google stress-relief game [bemmu.com]
In the beginning... (Score:2)
(http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/)
Then came the web, and peoples stories about their cat got pictures, and it was 100KB, and still noone cared.
Then came the podcast about the cat, at 10MB, still annoying, but for broadband.
Now comes the video about the cat, 100MB, but now even the cat is pissed off.
How is this progress???
grokster (Score:2)
(http://godiva.eos.uoguelph.ca/~cfreeman)
VLC is in trouble (Score:1)
(http://kafene.org/ | Last Journal: Monday March 13 2006, @10:40PM)
I for one hope Google can help this great media player stay in business.
gimme google os (Score:1)
also try ourmedia.org (Score:1)
How Google Video Works right now... (Score:2)
1. Select a video and upload it to their servers. Add associated text, type of video (documentary, comedy etc), and authors.
2. They review the video for obviously infringing content and pornography. They except neither.
3. Your video is listed at video.google.com using any text you supply during the upload process.
4. Free videos appear in the listings with the universal play symbol next to the title.
This process is not very quick since real people review the vids.
To see what such a result looks like you can see my short/poor/test offering here:
http://video.google.com/videopreviewbig?q=grokste
I took that using a still camera's video option while waiting for MGM v Grokster to start.
-----------------The Welcome Note to the New Features-------------
Today we're pleased to announce that we're (finally) launching a new
Google Video feature: video playback of all that great content you
folks uploaded to us. Given that we started accepting uploads back in
April, this development is certainly long overdue; we'd like to
apologize for the delay and thank you for your newsgroup posts, your
emails, your blog posts... oh, yes, and your patience.
Feel free to test out our new playback feature. Keep in mind only the
videos that feature a small triangle "play" icon next to the snippets
of transcript text will allow playback. Try typing in the following
search terms to watch free videos: gamespot, Greenpeace, AdWords,
badminton, PS3, cattlemen, Hortus, sarong, breakdancing, capoeira.
Going forward, we plan to use this newsgroup to communicate product
changes and updates and respond to your inquiries in (ahem) a more
timely manner. Enjoy the video playback, and please do keep writing.
Google Video is still in beta; we have a lot of work to do to make this
product as good as it can be, and your opinions and ideas are always
welcome.
And so, of course, are your videos. Keep those uploads coming!
Thanks,
The Google Video Team
No GUI, and where are the videos? (Score:1)
Keywords for Free Video (Score:2)
video.google.com
gamespot, Greenpeace, AdWords,
badminton, PS3, cattlemen, Hortus, sarong, breakdancing, capoeira
Source: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Google-Labs-G
The revolution of Informatics (Score:1)
no support for linux, win98, osx. plus... (Score:2)
which works better for you? eg Yahoo concorde [yahoo.com] vs Google concorde [google.com]
on top of which, google is returning 90% Fox tv news results. how is that not evil??!
Update (Score:2)
I was hoping there would be a "Safe Search" option like images.google.com
hidden link? (Score:1)
It's live (Score:1)
(http://www.alexanderband.dk/)
http://video.google.com/video_interesting.html [google.com]
Speaking as a content uploader, the quality is simply rubbish.
Small videos, heavy compression. Web video as of 5-6 years ago. No playback controls.
Okay for reference, but this HAS to be a rough beta, it seems half-baked...
Playing under linux... (Score:2)
* Install vlc, or mplayer (you'll probably need the mplayer codec pack too..)
* wget -O temp the link referenced by the blue 'arrow' for the video you're interested in. (eg: wget 'http://video.google.com/videopreviewbig?q=ps3&ti
* search for the vp.video.google.com reference, grab the URL, and mangle the %xx codes into something more reasonable (eg: http%3A%2F%2Fvp.video.google.com becomes http://vp.video.google.com/ [google.com]
* Zap that link into mplayer or vlc (eg: gmplayer 'http://vp.video.google.com/videoplayback?id=ef07
Unfortunately, I suspect that the slashdot comment mangler will kill those links, but you should be able to rebuild them.. (btw: the video is some ps3 thing at E3).
L.
VLC 0.8 huh? (Score:1)
So I have VLC 0.8.2 already installed, MacOS 10.4.1, use it to watch all sorts of formats that other players won't touch, now what? Sorry, but Googleviewer.exe just don't cut it. Anyhow, enter search term: balloon 4 out of 5 socalled links have a comment "Video is currently not available"
Ignore the illegal upload blab and tv dies (Score:1)
http://video.google.com/videopreviewbig?q=%22fami
Delivered instantly to your browser anywhere.
God bless Google.
One step closer (Score:1)
What's next? Google online gambling?
Does anyone remember this? (Score:1)
Matrix Revolutions online (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Monday March 26 2007, @01:09PM)
see this link [google.com]
Re:Is google trying to be all things to all people (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday May 20 2003, @04:00PM)
The filosophy of all the semeingly nutty google projects is pretty simple : start 10 projects in the hope that one of them becomes wildly successfull. The other 9 are just duds
No. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Is google trying to be all things to all people (Score:3, Insightful)
GBrowser probably doesnt (didnt) but this is a company that encourages staff to explore their own avenues so there is bound to be some diversity.
Re:Is google trying to be all things to all people (Score:2)
(http://www.danielimrich.net/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 15 2006, @12:06PM)
Re:Google should go playerless... (Score:1)
This tech definitely isn't there yet, but still it's quite impressive.
Wonder if in a couple of year's I'll be able to run applets like that on my cell phone...
Re:Google OS? (Score:1)
(http://coderhaus.com/)
(ok it's old, but still a cool what-if scenario)
Re:Google OS? (Score:1)
Anyone else suspect that one day Google is just going to dissipate like smoke?
-Eric
Re:Google bubble is about to burst (Score:2)
(http://www.pbp.net/)
As for other search engines, you're right.. a cool one has sprung up.. Clusty [clusty.com] - rather innovative, imho.
Re:Google bubble is about to burst (Score:2)
(http://www.bynumbers.com/)
How does Google not have a plan? Google has stated many times that their goal is to innovate the way we access all sorts of information. They've already changed the way I search the web, read my email, view maps, etc. They're smart enough to realize that you're better off making 100 small applications and seeing which ones work than you are focusing all your energy into one project that may or may not flop. Diversification is key to innovation and success.
Also, Google's successful because they're innovating where other people follow suit.
GMail: Sure, there's tons of other free e-mail services, but this one actually does things right. Not only that, it also has a user friendly interface and looks nice. Visit hotmail, yahoo mail, etc. then go back to GMail. There's a reason it's so incredibly popular.
Google Maps: Sure, we have Map Quest et. al....but their maps suck. And by suck, I mean they're horrendous. Google's the first company to offer a compelling map service for free.
Also, Google is a trendy name. People love Google labs. Even if they don't use all the services, people check back regularly to see what kind of neat things they're working on. As long as Google holds the public's interest (and with gmail being as popular as it is, I don't see how they won't), they'll be around and be doing well for a long time to come...
Re:Is google trying to be all things to all people (Score:1)