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Virgin Media O2 Deploys AI Decoy To Waste Scammers' Time (pcmag.com) 22

British telecom Virgin Media O2 has deployed an AI tool to combat phone scammers by wasting their time with fake conversations, the company said. The AI system, named Daisy, uses voice synthesis to mimic an elderly woman and engages fraudsters in lengthy discussions about fictitious family members or provides false bank details, keeping them occupied for up to 40 minutes per call.

Virgin Media O2 embedded phone numbers connected to Daisy within scammer call lists targeting vulnerable individuals. The system, developed with help from anti-scam YouTuber Jim Browning, automatically transcribes incoming calls and generates responses without human intervention.

Further reading: Google Rolls Out Call Screening AI To Thwart Phone Fraudsters.

Virgin Media O2 Deploys AI Decoy To Waste Scammers' Time

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  • Daisy and Lenny (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Z00L00K ( 682162 ) on Friday November 15, 2024 @10:34AM (#64947863) Homepage Journal

    What a pair.

    For those who don't know Lenny: https://www.lennytroll.com/ [lennytroll.com]

  • I hate being a Virgin Media customer, but stuck because the alternative is a 36 megabit connection from the old fttc network.
  • by NettiWelho ( 1147351 ) on Friday November 15, 2024 @10:42AM (#64947885)
    Kitboga's bot is better, it was actually able to get valid bank details from scammers so their account can be shut down
    • so virgin media does bank fraud?

      • That wouldn't be fraud, it's notifying the bank(s) involved to flag the account as itself likely being used for fraudulent purposes, at the very least freezing the account (and the fraud activity) until a review is conducted. Basically put up a red flag that may lead to yet more red flags that gum up the fraudster's enterprise.

    • Banks (Score:5, Funny)

      by JBMcB ( 73720 ) on Friday November 15, 2024 @11:08AM (#64947939)

      Kitboga goes the extra mile and creates fake bank web sites. He has the scammers enter in their bank details themselves, which then gets forwarded to the appropriate authorities.

      My favorite videos are the sisyphean-level captcha setups he has the scammers jump through to access his fake bank or bitcoin wallet. At the beginning they are clicking on the pictures of stairs. At the end they are solving differential equations, answering obscure trivia questions about bacteria, and guessing pantone codes for color swatches.

      • I looked up Kitboga & found him on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channe... [youtube.com] It makes me so happy that there are people who get together & do this kind of thing. Every minute scammers spend on platforms like this is a minute that they're not scamming a real person. No only is it an extremely valuable public service, it's incredibly entertaining. Thanks! You've just brightened up my day =D
  • See, there is a good use for AI. Wasting scammers time is worth all the money put into AI.

    • by Malc ( 1751 )

      I love this concept. I've tried in the past to do this myself and make it a game instead of being annoyed. I really wanted to be able to pretend to be somebody important whose annoyance might result in legislative and enforcement action against these scammers. These days I get very few calls, mostly just political parties before elections and British Gas trying to convince me I need a smart meter (I don't). The car crash scammers must have got wise to me after I strung them along enough to be handed-off

  • What is the outcome when we have AI bots calling up people to scam them and then they end up speaking to AI bots designed to waste their time, will the scammers hit back with AI bots designed to pre-screen or detect AI scam bot timewasters. Where doe sit end. Will this recursion provide a new means of perpetual energy?
    • What is the outcome when we have AI bots calling up people to scam them and then they end up speaking to AI bots designed to waste their time, will the scammers hit back with AI bots designed to pre-screen or detect AI scam bot timewasters. Where doe sit end. Will this recursion provide a new means of perpetual energy?

      I suppose that could happen, but we're safe for now because that kind of AI requires expensive support.

      This is an arms race. Both sides will improve their methods, but my hope is that the crooks will always be behind.

    • by kackle ( 910159 )
      Have your bot get back to and scam my bot...
  • Whenever I contact Concast for support I'm pretty sure I'm talking to a bot.
  • How is this new? Anyone who's used customer service for the past decade knows Daisy well.

  • I always considered it a service to my fellow humans to waste the ROBO callers time. How much depends on my mood and creativity.
    It is interesting that some AI calls hang up when you ask the to say "I am not a robot". Some are better at programming their system than others.

  • As reported by the same agency (PC Mag) in 2017: Re:scam Bot Has One Goal: Waste the Time of Email Scammers [pcmag.com]: "Send your spam emails to Re:scam, which will engage with and waste the time of scammers trying to dupe you." Their Youtube promo [youtu.be] was pretty good, too.

    An even older version of this (sorry, I don't have a link, saw it at an anti-spam conference ~15y ago) involved setting up rudimentary text-to-speech systems on a university lab's phone line. The AI was extremely basic (scripts rather than what we ca

  • ...get youtube videos of the results?

    I can't wait to have a show where we hear these fraudsters get scammed and more frustrated by the minute.
    Pierogi and Scammers Payback just got some friendly competition.

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