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Windows Vista RC2 Available 298

GarstMan writes to mention that Microsoft has released what it hopes will be the last version of Windows Vista to go through the testing process. From the article: "This new build of Windows Vista offers users a higher level of performance and stability - improving what was established in Windows Vista RC1. We were able to also fix many of your bugs reported from RC1 and implement them for RC2. Thank you to our beta testers for the bugs and feedback you submitted for RC1. The improvement shows as we raised our quality bar even higher! Platforms and Services Co-President Jim Allchin has just posted a special announcement letter of RC2 to Microsoft Connect for the Windows Vista Technical Beta Testers."
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Windows Vista RC2 Available

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  • I for one am tired of our DRM loving monopoly overlords!
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      I for one am tired of our DRM loving monopoly overlords!

      You'll regret that statement when the revolution comes.
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Stormwatch ( 703920 )
        You'll regret that statement when the revolution comes.
        Our DRM-loving monopoly overlords will be the first ones against the wall.
  • by rlp ( 11898 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @09:43PM (#16344311)
    There will be a release candidate 3 Beta released as well. You'll just have to pay money for it in stores.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I honestly don't get this whole "release testing versions to the world" idea.

      As long as this doesn't contain any bugs you can't deal with, can't your everyday non-pirate windows fan just download this version and keep it after vista comes out in stores? What's stopping them? It stops functioning after a certain time? It doesn't allow windows updates? Heck, those have got to be pretty persuasive arguements for saving a hundred bucks or two.
      • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:23PM (#16344559)
        It stops functioning after a certain time?
        This is correct. It works until mid 2007.

        I honestly don't get this whole "release testing versions to the world" idea.
        There's a sub sandwich shop here that gives away free sandwich coupons every couple of months-- use as many as you want as often as you want. If you get addicted, you'll end up being their customer when it's no longer free.
      • ET phone home.

        Not specifi to your question but:
        http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060705-7188 .html [arstechnica.com]
      • It's time limited (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 )
        Usually 180 days is what they set it at. That could be disabled, but then so could the activation of release Windows so why bother? Also, it activates itself so you have that to deal with as well.

        The reason they release it to the world is to try and catch more bugs. It's not like they don't test their OS internally but there's such a massive number of system setups out there they can't test all permutations. Also it's equally (maybe even more) targeted at allowing people to test their setups with Vista, sta
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by nickheart ( 557603 )
      Well yeah, they have to release a candidate with the new startup chime.
  • Link to ISO (Score:5, Informative)

    by PixelJonah ( 182936 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @09:46PM (#16344339)
    Here's the direct link to the 2552.6GBGB ISO image: Vista RC2 build 5744 [windowsvista.com].
  • Torrent? (Score:2, Funny)

    Torrent for the rest of us?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:00PM (#16344427)
    offers users a higher level of performance and stability

    ie: We added -DNDEBUG to the compiler command line.
  • by physicsphairy ( 720718 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:00PM (#16344431) Homepage
    We were able to also fix many of your bugs reported from RC1 and implement them for RC2.

    Now this is the kind of honesty you have to appreciate.

  • here it is (Score:5, Informative)

    by axonis ( 640949 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:02PM (#16344439)
  • by slightcrazed ( 973882 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:03PM (#16344443)
    I for one am very much looking forward to using Window's Vista once it is fully released. There seems to be much to look forward to; new features, better stability, better performance. I'm reading up on it right now on the Microsoft Website, and I can't wait to install it on my old Acer laptop. She's only got a 1.5 ghz celeron and an old intel graphics chip, but I'm sure that..... .....wait, what do they mean by 'Minimum system requirements'?
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I once had the idea that any OS that one installs on a PC needs to more or less match the time the PC was put on the market so as to provide drivers for the hardware, etc. A Pentium II equals Windows 98.

      I have had lots of problems getting linux 2.6 kernel OS's to run fast enough on Pentium II's, for instance.
      If that meant putting SuSE 6.3 on one of those, then that's what I did.

      From the get-go Microsoft said that Vista would require a lot more in the way of memory, graphics, processor speed than previous pr
  • Works great. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cybrthng ( 22291 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:18PM (#16344523) Journal
    First build that i've installed with 0 issues on 3 pcs and one of them being my frankenPC that always gave me hell.

  • Perfect Timing (Score:2, Insightful)

    by JerkyBoy ( 455854 ) *
    Nice how this follows on the heels of the previous story appropriately titled, "Any Prospect of Serenity Sequel Quashed." I'm _finally_ happy with the stability of Windows XP, and they want to go start the whole patch circus over again. I'm holding onto my copy of Windows XP until they pry it from my computer with a screwdriver.
    • You're going to end up like those poeple still running Win 3.11...
    • I'm holding onto my copy of Windows XP until they pry it from my computer with a screwdriver.


      Funny, I feel the same way about my copy of Windows 2000.

      (Well, on *that* machine, at least... on the other 6, I run Linux.)
    • by MonkeyBoy ( 4760 )
      I suspect the screwdriver they're going to use is DirectX 10, since Microsoft claims they can't make it work under Windows XP.

      If you play games, like 99% of Windows XP users do, sooner or later you'll need DirectX 10 to play a game.

      'course if you don't play games, you should really buy a Mac.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by kimvette ( 919543 )

        I suspect the screwdriver they're going to use is DirectX 10, since Microsoft claims they can't make it work under Windows XP.

        Despite claims of developers from video card vendors who have posted on here about Microsoft's DirectX installer for Windows XP?

        Do not believe it "can't" be done for a single second. It's (allegedly) already been done, is supposedly stable, and they just won't release it to the public. Of course, these claims have yet to be substantiated, but really, how many here think it is imposs

  • Bugs (Score:5, Funny)

    by tawhaki ( 750181 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @10:35PM (#16344619)
    We were able to also fix many of your bugs reported from RC1 and implement them for RC2.
    I thought the bugs were already in RC1, why did they need to implement them again for RC2?
  • When does RC2 expire? May of next year as well?
    • by Ucklak ( 755284 )
      Wasn't there some trick to extend these `time limited` offerings from Redmond where you set the time server to your local machine and set your year to something past 2072?
      • There probably is some trick like that out there, or at least a handful of Vista cracks, but I'm not too interested in finding them. If the May/June expiration date holds for this release as well, then I'll be pleased--that's a more than generous amount of time to test-drive the OS. It's free-as-in-no-purchase-necessary software, after all, and it just seems a little skeezy to want to compromise it like that. It just feels too much like stealing shareware (and a shareware-quality OS, too ;)
  • by GFree ( 853379 ) on Friday October 06, 2006 @11:27PM (#16344879)
    ... but is there anyone on Slashdot who is NOT an evangelical geek who's tried one of the Vista RCs and has something useful to say about it? This joking/FUD is getting tiring.

    For once I'd like to see an opinion from someone who tried Vista without any biases.
    • I tried it to see if my software would work with it... I want to like it, so I'm biased, but not in the direction you're thinking.

      I personally think MS gave up two of their biggest advantages, it won't wrong legacy software easily & it doesn't feel like Windows. I imagine alot will get fixed before release... but as of yet, it's been a pain in my rear.

      Even running it as admin I got lots of Access denied in the command prompt. The installer for my software failed, but for some reason Vista hid the failur
      • Actually I think linux distros should borrow the Mac approach to user security. You can have as many users as you want but in order to install/remove software, you have to enter the equivalent of a root password. It's pretty good about not letting generic users change things that have been locked, and the icons and sound effects reinforce the fact that things are locked or unlocked. Plus you have the keychain that can save all passwords...and you need a password to unlock it.

        Konqueror does something
    • by Overly Critical Guy ( 663429 ) on Saturday October 07, 2006 @01:17AM (#16345447)
      There's really not a lot to say about it. A few things become abundantly clear when you use it:

      1.) It feels very much like a redressed XP. It behaves the same as previous versions of Windows have. There are even dialogs dating back to Windows 3.1, like the Install Font dialog.

      2.) UAC is incredibly annoying. You'll see. You will hate it.

      3.) Something feels weird about it. I often find myself wanting to go back to XP. It might be the inconsistent interface that I'm not used to, or the overuse of gaudy visual effects (the animated ribbon swoosh used everywhere looks straight out of a 1980s public access channel logo). Maybe it's the nasty colors used everywhere in the the aquamarine/sea-green theme that is Aero.

      It's a weird feeling to use Vista, like it should have been out three years ago. It feels very dated in places.
  • by agressiv ( 145582 ) on Saturday October 07, 2006 @12:12AM (#16345135)
    While I'm sure I'll get some fairly smart-ass responses to this post, most of you trashing Vista probably haven't even touched it. Sure, some of the comments are funny, but most of its mindless trolling. Its more of contest for a "+1 Funny" than anything else.

    For those of you who have tried it (at least since RC1, everything before that was junk), and don't like it, then its not for you. Stick with whatever you have and move along. Your decision to not purchase Microsoft software will send a message.

    For those of you haven't, give RC2 a try, its free - at least for about 8-9 months or whatever. You can then judge all its flaws and gasp, maybe even give feedback to Microsoft so that maybe they can do something about it. Just make sure you are constructive rather than "get rid of DRM" which probably won't accomplish much of anything.

    agressiv

    • I'll try Vista. But first I gotta drink a quart of whisky and nail my penis to a picnic table.
    • Woo woo! (Score:3, Informative)

      by BeeBeard ( 999187 )
      Mod parent up, s/he's got a great point! I haven't tried Vista yet, but initial takes on the RC1/RC2 releases have been positive. From a software compatibility perspective, you might as well be running RC2 now if you know for sure you're going to just be buying Vista anyway when it hits the shelves: Whereas the old betas were fairly crash-prone and didn't run much besides Office, the RC releases are apparently much more polished and well-suited to everyday use. Windows beta testing superstar Paul Thurrott [winsupersite.com]
      • Um, you shouldn't be saying "the RC releases". You should be saying 'this latest release' or RC2. Remember, there wasn't even supposed to be an RC2, Microsoft released it because RC1 was shit. Nearly everyone in the tech press was screaming and crying about everything wrong with it. Stability. Speed (or lack thereof). Compatibility. The list just went on and on. So, Microsoft fixed some more bugs and released, publicly, the RC2. This was more of a PR move than anything.

        However, I will say that I'm d
      • Windows beta testing superstar Paul Thurrott has been throwing everything he can at the 32-bit RC releases and has yet to find an application that doesn't work

        Define 'work'.

        And try:

        • Install Office 2000.
        • Run Word.
        • Hit Ctrl-F to bring up the Find dialog.
        • Watch the dialog appear painfully slowly as its zoom animation screws over Vista's DWM.
        • Close the dialog.
        • Watch in awe as most of the contents of the dialog are left behind on screen.

        And this is Office. Microsoft Office.

  • Why I can play Halflife 2 and get an excellent framrate at 1920x1200 with all image qualites maxxed out, and all sorts of traditionally GPU-intensive fire/smoke/reflections moving around on the screen, yet just running the Vista desktop and dragging a window or two around is like walking through mud...
    • by drsmithy ( 35869 )
      Why I can play Halflife 2 and get an excellent framrate at 1920x1200 with all image qualites maxxed out, and all sorts of traditionally GPU-intensive fire/smoke/reflections moving around on the screen, yet just running the Vista desktop and dragging a window or two around is like walking through mud...

      Because you're lying.

      • by robpoe ( 578975 )
        He probably isn't.

        I have serious issues with Steam games .. it's a surprise that he got it to run at all...

        And I had the same usability issues with RC1 too.

        Downloading RC2 and we'll see...

        • by drsmithy ( 35869 )

          He probably isn't.

          Note that he's talking about "just running the Vista desktop and dragging a window or two around", not playing games.

          Any PC that can play HL2 well at a huge resolution like 1920x1200, laughs at the minimum requirements to get decent performance out of Vista and Aero.

          So, he's lying about the performance of either HL2 or Vista.

          • I agree. I just finished HL2 Ep1 on my 2+ year old system runing Vista RC1.
            The game is choppy at times but the OS is fine.
  • About 1 week ago, I installed RC1++ (RC1 refresh, 5728 or something like that). It installed smoothly on my computer at home (previous builds of Vista have given me tons of driver problems).

    I can dual boot between XP and Vista. I was originally planning to just use Vista for testing (the program I work on is not yet 100% Vista compatible, so I need a Vista machine to use for testing my fixes). However, it has worked well enough for me that I haven't booted back to XP all week. That says a lot.

    One thing
  • ...when it came out as I wanted to see it and the downloads were mobbed.
    I got RC1 dvd in the post at work *this morning*

    (and yes, perhaps I do have more money than sense - but I blow cash on other crap, so what the hell)

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