YouTube to Offer Every Music Video Ever Created? 282
Klaidas writes "BBC reports that YouTube is aiming to have every music video ever created within 18 months and offer them free of charge to its users
"Right now we're trying to very quickly determine how and what the model is to distribute this content and we're very aggressive in assisting the labels in trying to get the content on to YouTube," said Mr Chen."
"Right now we're trying to very quickly determine how and what the model is to distribute this content and we're very aggressive in assisting the labels in trying to get the content on to YouTube," said Mr Chen."
Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Insightful)
RIAA will love it (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:RIAA will love it (Score:4, Funny)
I guess we'll know the end is near, when YouTube announces it will carry all of "The Real Life" episodes....
Re:RIAA will love it (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:5, Informative)
As a former employee of MTV, I can say unequivocably that nobody at MTV gets paid to show this video over that video. But there is a lot of pressure to, say, "show this new artist video or we won't give you an exclusive interview with Madonna/Ludacris/Green Day." There is a lot of bartering more than outright payola. Influence for influence.
And, yes, MTV will pay any artist $1 for the right to use their music in the background of their shows in perpetuity forever and ever et cetera et cetera. A lot of bands take that deal; bigger names than I would have thought, especially in the metal/indie world. It's not really selling out, but it's definitely a validation of the system.
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
So, what's their excuse for doing it live, onstage in front of a paying audience?
I'd rather hear a band actually playing their own instruments, and singing...even if it is off a bit. Hell, back in the day, Jimmy Page hit quite a few 'flub' notes on stage, but, the improvs. and the fact he was trying to squeeze 10K notes into a
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Informative)
A wild-ass guess gets marked informative?
Until very recently, a music video was a promotional item, part of the hype machine to sell singles, albums, and concert tickets. It was basically a commercial for the song, and there were no licensing costs. Anyone who wanted to play the video (thus providing free publicity) were welcome to do so.
Now the labels see the possibility of licensing the content online, and are starting to view vids as a potential revenue stream, one that will not require them to pay any
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Informative)
Ultimately the band pays. If the label decides to promote the album, they usually provide a video budget that does not come out of the artists' advance. But occasionally, an artist will feel the need to produce a video the label doesn't want, or a more expensive video than the label will approve. That money has to come directly out of the artist's pocket, rather than out of their future earnings.
(I spent much of the last five years working on music videos.)Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Interesting)
Basically just remember this. RIAA doesn't need to sell songs as long as it wins court ba
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:5, Insightful)
How long do you think it will be before that changes? It wasn't too long ago that there was no such thing as a portable native .mp3 player. If the format becomes popular, the hardware will support it. (Of course I still doubt that would hurt album sales, since the audio quality on YouTube is horrible.)
I doubt it (Score:2)
Adding a video to the mix changes that. I don't think many people will be in to changing they way we spend our free time so we can watch some video that roughly sync's to a song we like. Just wont happen.
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
One that makes me really sad, is due to the same reasons, WKRP in Cincinnati can't be released in its original format either...just because of the real songs they used back then.
Sad thing is...since that show was shot on video, and for other reasons I hear...some episodes in original format may indeed be lost already.
"As God as my witness...I thought turkeys could
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
As far as I can tell, YouTube's flash videos are more or less DRM. While they're not conventional DRM, they do have the same effect as DRM.
Re:Free? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Free? RIAA will never allow it (Score:2)
But what will MTV do? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh well, at least we'll get to see some of that cool old David Bowie video again... :)
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:2)
Absolutely! Much better than most of the women they showed in videos. Another one to add to the list, even though she only appeared for a few moments, is the woman at the end of David Lee Roth's "Just a Gigolo" video. The one who bends over in front of the double doors as he does his final dance before entering the double doors.
Given a bit of time I'm sure we could come up with several other
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:2)
A-ha "Take On Me" (Score:4, Interesting)
It's amazing that back in the MTV days artists were ACTUALLY artists and the talent shows through and through. ever notice how many 80s stations there are on the radio today? IMHO the 80's was the last attempt at real music with real artists..ya know people that write and produce their own stuff? Sadly its all about the money now, just like everything else. Show some skin, sing someone elses lyrics and you are good to go..thats what we have today.
Maybe thats one reason you dont see music videos anymore and one reason music sales started slumpping way before Napster came along..b/c the music for the most part it utter crap. Napster just made folks at the RIAA realize just how bad the music industry had become and continues to be.
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:3, Insightful)
Although there are now something like 15 video music channels here in the UK. And just about each will have a retro/classic/80's/90's dance/heavy metal/punk/club/garage/underground evening/weekend.
Now, MTV always just seemed to be guys clowning around, let alone actually being any music.
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:2)
I like to keep it on in the background when not watching anything in particular....
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:2)
Man, that video was dangerous in the hands of a male teenager.
Re:But what will MTV do? (Score:2, Funny)
Hands? Plural?
re: progress? (Score:2)
Did you want to view one over again a second time, perhaps? Nice to be able to do so without having to catch it on tape first.
Bad bargaining position (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Bad bargaining position (Score:5, Funny)
I love that video!
Lose more money! (Score:4, Funny)
All the good ones (Score:5, Funny)
Re:All the good ones (Score:3, Interesting)
I honestly can't even remember the last time MTV took a break from such quality programmi
Re:All the good ones (Score:2)
Now I never even flip over there because I know that there's never anything on that I want to see. Personally, I think what started it going downhill was The Real World. It was, after all, basically the first non-music thing on the station.
What I hate (Score:2)
Re:All the good ones (Score:2)
Re:All the good ones (Score:2)
Or get his *ahem* other video from various dark corners of the internet. I don't want the crappy edited remix either - just the unedited urination on a minor. That's how I like my R. Kelly.
It would be nice if... (Score:2)
-uso.
Do you get to choose the 18 months? (Score:5, Funny)
Do you get to choose which 18 month period you will select from? I'm hoping for something like Jul 2003 - Dec 2004: no P(uff) D(a/i)iddy videos to worry about, and I might pick up a cool Peter Gabriel video or two.
Re:Do you get to choose the 18 months? (Score:5, Funny)
We don't need to stinking hats. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:We don't need to stinking hats. (Score:2, Funny)
This is one of those sentences that's a perfect example of why proper use of the apostrophe is important.
Re:We don't need to stinking hats. (Score:2)
Re:We don't need to stinking hats. (Score:2)
It should work great (Score:4, Interesting)
It also shouldn't be too much of a problem to get past the RIAA. Look at Yahoos music videos. As long as there isn't a way for people to download them and keep them for personal use, I don't see that there would be a problem (but what do I know, if there is a way to make money the RIAA will be all over it). I think that they could have a really good thing starting here.
Re:It should work great (Score:5, Informative)
Re:It should work great (Score:3, Interesting)
It'll be used as on-demand music (Score:2)
I can't find my old posts (Score:4, Insightful)
I predict $20 a month charge (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I predict $20 a month charge (Score:2)
Interesting (Score:5, Interesting)
Why is it, Youtube has videos from many very popular and very lawsuit-happy bands (such as Kiss), but only *some* of their videos, and *not* always just the ones that are the arguably less copyright-infringing ones? In other words, often many of the videos that weren't intentionly taken down for legal reasons are the ones that are seemingly most illegal, ala the "legitimate MTV-style" videos.
It smells of payola and soforth. But who knows.
Just to be clear (Score:2)
Priorities (Score:2, Insightful)
First YouTube Song... (Score:5, Funny)
censored ?? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:censored ?? (Score:3, Informative)
The t-shirts are blurred when they have a corporate logo on them. MTV doesn't want to run product placement advertising without being paid for it.
100 Awesome Music Videos Lives! (Score:5, Informative)
Labels should pay YouTube for this (Score:4, Interesting)
It's a loss leader. I can't remember how many albums I bought because the video introduced me to the music. The audio quality would be poor enough to encourage people to buy the real thing.
Re:Labels should pay YouTube for this (Score:2)
Well... (Score:2)
Splitting streams is rather easy...
MTV has already done it... quietly... (Score:4, Informative)
It's pretty good. Thousands of videos. Quality is as good as what you usually find on YouTube.
Not sure why nobody knows about this. I mean, at 37, I'm now outside MTV's target demographic (but I was 14 when I GOT MY MTV in 1983, the weekend that the Thriller video was released in it's 14-minute glory.)
But anyway, since MY generation was the one that actually watched videos on MTV for about 6 hours a day instead of listening to the radio, I'd think they'd find a way to market this to the 30-45 year age groups. *shrug*
Re:MTV has already done it... quietly... (Score:4, Interesting)
"Firefox users need to install the following ActiveX compatibility plug-in:"
Re:MTV has already done it... quietly... (Score:5, Informative)
From MTV Overdrive :
"Detecting OS...
In order to offer a broad selection of full-length music videos on-demand and free of charge, MTV Overdrive uses Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM) to protect videos from unauthorized re-distribution.
Unfortunately, Microsoft's Windows Media Player Plug-in for Unix does not support Windows DRM. If DRM support becomes available, MTV will develop a version of MTV Overdrive that works for your operating system."
Re:MTV has already done it... quietly... (Score:2)
Err... No thanks. The lack of ActiveX is the primary reason I *like* firefox.
Re:MTV has already done it... quietly... (Score:3, Interesting)
Fish Heads
Command Cody : Two Triple Cheese
Roger Hodgeson : Had a Dream
Adam Ant
Rush's live concerts
J. Geils
REO Speedwagon
Journey (besides don't stop)
Chillawak
Blue Oyster Cult (godzilla!)
38 Special
Boo.....
Now at RIAA headquaters (Score:2)
RIAA calculation:
(every music video ever made) x (USD 150.000) = Endless party
RIAA vs. YouTube settlement:
1) pay laywers, music industrie, 1.37 quadrizappeldubbel billion dollars.
2) shutdown website
Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How's this for an idea? (Score:3, Informative)
Not likely (Score:3, Funny)
Meanwhile (Score:3, Funny)
Should be easy... but... (Score:2)
Someone belatedly figured we'd pay for compilations and started going retail.
YouTube will argue for 80s pricing and RIAA will argue for 2000s pricing.
As great as videos were in their heyday (the 80s) today's kids will think they're about as exciting as watching bank surveillance videos compared to the bombast that's on now.
With all the bandwidth they burn through... (Score:2)
Every video? Including Broken by NIN? (Score:2)
Don't they already have every video every made? (Score:2)
OK. That's nice.
Re:Already there? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Already there? (Score:2)
Actually I'm quite surprised at how much foreign (japanese in particular) rock is represented on YouTube already.
Re:Already there? (Score:2)
I agree. I'm a huge Puffy fan (as in the Japanese band, not the US cartoon) and literally every single one of their videos that I know of and probably about 50% of all their other TV appearances (minus a bunch of papapapapuffy episodes) are already on YouTube. The recent ones were even put there by their US record label. I gotta say, it's this breaking down of national barriers that's what I l
Good FanVids Worth A Look (Score:2)
The ones that spring to mind include a summation of the Ratchet and Clank series (on PS2, at least) set to "Have a Nice Day" by Bon Jovi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0qz10hN6B0 [youtube.com]
And this one of Jak II set to "Breaking the Habit" by Linkin Park:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeb3ZnXM-34 [youtube.com]
Both of them are well put-together and use a diverse series of clips, so hopefully this ought to shake out your precon
Re:Do we really need all of them? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Do we really need all of them? (Score:3, Funny)
So actually, we are doomed to repeat our history - until nature selects out our tendency to repeat it.
The worrying possibility is that 'repeating ones history' may be a good species survival trait...
Re:Do we really need all of them? (Score:5, Funny)
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santanaya
Re:Do we really need all of them? (Score:2)
I could watch Sporty Spice all day.
Re:Do we really need all of them? (Score:2)
Re:Do we really need all of them? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:This is great!!! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Still no current Flash plug-in for Firefox-Linu (Score:2)
-uso.
Re:They should do a real time replay (Score:2)
Re:My first downloads (Score:3, Informative)
Tease Me, Please Me - Scorpions [youtube.com]
Crazy Cool - Paula Abdul [youtube.com]
Remind me what you need to wait for?