Video Tape Recorder Unveiled 50 Years Ago 121
Argyle writes "50 years ago Ampex unveiled the first video tape recorder. TV Technology has an excellent story about the surprise launch of the video tape recorder, impacting almost every aspect of business, entertainment, and family life as we know it today. The enabler of the entire modern entertainment industry, the video tape recorder was was designed by only six men, Charles Ginsburg, Charles Anderson, Ray Dolby, Shelby Henderson, Alex Maxey, and Fred Pfost."
Oh boy, first Pfost! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh boy, first Pfost! (Score:2)
And seriously, we know news on Slashdot is often late by several days or even weeks... but fifty years? This is a new low for Slashdot.
not at all (Score:2)
Don't forget that whenever we hear about new galactic phenomenon, the news is always millions of years old.
And we're still waiting (Score:2)
Re:And we're still waiting (Score:2)
Re:mass media impact (Score:1)
Re:mass media impact (Score:1, Funny)
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What I find constantly amazing is seeing otherwise intelligent people I know watching the pure shit on television. Whether it's re-runs of the stuff I used to watch or new stuff, it's all really poor.
I too couldn't see how bad it was until going a few years without a tele.
Re:mass media impact (Score:3, Interesting)
Really though, at different point in my life I have gone without TV, and I just don't get the whole "TV sucks" thing. Just like anything else, there are good shows, and there are bad shows. There is stupid stuff, and there is really enlightening stuff. Besides, some people need to just unwind sometimes.
I mean, I have been 10 years now without a car, and I could certainly make comments like "What I find constantly amazing is see
Re:mass media impact (Score:1)
Word up! That's what I'm talking about.
I haven't owned a TV for years for various reasons. But I am not one of these elitist TV ascets that everybody hates. Some folks believe that throwing out their TV insta
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Re:mass media impact (Score:1)
Geez. Well if it makes you sleep better, let me proclaim the following: All uses of the phrase "here in europe" in my initial comment are supposed to refer only to the better parts of europe.
Re:mass media impact (Score:2)
1. It's a generational thing. Older people always remember some media when they grew up was different (TV, music, movies) and the new stuff is different and "not how it should be", so it tends to "suck" or just not tend to appeal to them. This also works in reverse with the younger generations watching older stuff.
2. With the advent of videogames and the internet, the younger generations are used to more interactive media. TV is passive, eve
Re:mass media impact (Score:2)
One thing I have found that I really enjoy i
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Its probably going to be easier than you expect. When you and I were growing up (assuming your age from wife/no kids/planning), everybody watched TV. Lunchroom chatter was about TV. Sometimes I watched stuff I didn't care about just to not be left out of the next day's conversation.
Nowadays, why would kids watch TV when they can sit at the computer after school and stay in constant contact? Now the responses to "Did you see (modern
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I'm not. I have been without a television for four years now, and I love switching it on when I'm staying at hotels. The great thing with a television is that it shows you things you didn't know you were looking for. You switch it on, and a story, some images or some facts you didn't know anything about come to you. The only reason I haven't bought one, is that I cannot see how I could make time to both watch television and do all the other things I do.
There are o
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what an adult would do; you have the power right
there in your hands.
Yes, you made that choice to drop television, BUT
at the same time, what gives you the right to some how
unilaterally start imposing your values on those
who may not share them.
Re:mass media impact (Score:2)
Are you stupid or crazy or angry or what?
What if the guy sold his car and started walking to work? Or he finally bought a car and no longer had to take the bus? Or made any change in his life he was glad he did and wanted to know if anyone else had?
Yeah that prick would really be imposing his views on the rest of us.
Re:mass media impact (Score:2)
Nopes, but like my other addictions, I prefer moderation over abstinence. I have started to pay a bit more attention to what I'm watching, and I was surprised to find a few true gems. Maybe this sounds silly, but perhaps you simply don't know what you are missing, which isn't surprising since the "gems" are buried under tons and tons of crap. But they are there (I'm not naming anything since I'll just elicit a "How can you like that?" response).
Getting more o
The Bunlap (Score:2)
One of which was the series "Tribal Life" on the Travel Channel depicting the life of the Bunlap tribe on Pentecost Island in Vanuatu.
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Isn't that what they call "out of the frying pan, into the fryer?"
Waste of time... (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, difficult to believe... if you're 16 years old. Jesus, it was less than 20 years ago that VCRs became ubiquitous.
Tell that to someone without a DVR... I was just digitizing VHS tapes the other day, and the memories came flooding back, of eaten tapes, tons of visual glitches, tapes deteriorating from age or repeated recordings, etc. Magnetic tape recording seems very iffy, even today.
That whole article is a waste of time. Extremely verbose and filled with hyperbole, and yet very little to say.
I strongly recomend the (defacement-proof link) Wikipedia Ampex article [wikipedia.org] which I found infinitely more informative and concise than this article, when I was reading up on the history of broadcast a few weeks ago.
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
Re:Waste of time... (Score:1)
Whether it be feeding the machine with soggy banana or giving it something to play with - the kids will win.
And those nice tapes make wonderful streamers.
Re:Waste of time... (Score:4, Insightful)
"Yes, difficult to believe... if you're 16 years old. Jesus, it was less than 20 years ago that VCRs became ubiquitous."
I'd guess it wouldn't help to be 16 years old. There were no VCRs around when I was a kid. There are hardly any VCRs around today either, as everything is replaced with DVDs. The only persons agreeing with the article author would be someone born around 1985 who tragically died around 2000, so they never got to see the DVD revolution.
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
Yes, well, if you paid as much for the VHS tapes as you did for those DVD-Rs, they'd probably be dust by now.
I'd love to see your vinyl-based video recording system.
Scratches can be repaired rather easily, and with a small investment you can p
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
1/2 sec is 15 frames on ntsc.. My 20 years old Panasonic video recorder is accurate to the frame with fast forward/reverse, so is my relatively new and ultracheap Aiwa. The first is a lot easier to use then the later, but the cheap Aiwa still beats virtually all 'consumer grade' DVD players out there easily.
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
um.. there was vinyl videodiscs..
they were called CEDs (Capacitance Electronic Discs) and made by RCA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SelectaVision [wikipedia.org]
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
The issue was that "vinyl has them both beat", and I don't see anything that makes CEDs superior.
Memoirs of a taping geek (Score:2)
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
[TVT article]
It was the star of the convention and even though Ampex had set a selling price of $45,000 for production models (more than $320,000 in 2006 dollars), orders were written that week for more than 70 machines. (Market research conducted prior to the show indicated that there would be a demand for no more than a dozen globally.)
and
Even so, sales orders
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2, Interesting)
I had to go to work with 50lbs of recording machinery with another 20lbs of batteries in the snow...
Those darn 2" recorders were so very heavy.
Having said that, the current generation of camcorders and 5 megapixle cellphones don't know what they have in the palm of the hand.
At least I know.
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
Uphill both ways? Barefoot?
Cmon, how hard was it?
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
I've been digitizing old reel to reel tapes, some going back as far as the early 60s, and have had a lot of fun.
Despite all of tape's problems, at least you can get your information off of it without too much hassle (tape baking [tangible-technology.com]). With DV
Re:Waste of time... (Score:2)
For realtime playback, DVDs are less resilient to errors. However, if you're looking to copy them, you can always read-around an error, and get 99% of the data as perfect as the day it was pressed. Also, if you're willing to do it by hand (with an electron microscope), you can practically always recover the data, even in heavily scratched areas. Short of the metal actually flaking off, the
Re:Dont Be Jealous (Score:2)
Listen, I'm pretty sure the video tape recorder was not invented by someone posting drunk on slashdot.
Actually... (Score:4, Informative)
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Brunelleschi (Score:2)
That's what Vasari says, in his Lives of the Artists (1550): http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/basis/vasari/vasari 5.htm [fordham.edu]
Re:Dont Be Jealous (Score:2)
Much of the population and lots of politicians were unfamiliar with science at the time, but that hasn't changed.
Still can't fit it through the doorway (Score:1)
Betamax (Score:2, Interesting)
Tape ru
Re:Betamax (Score:2)
I think you are off by an order of magnitude, but not two.
Satisfyingly Tactile - lost in the digital age. (Score:2)
We had one of the first betamax videos when they came out.
I still have one! Free to a good home - want it? (Warning: you pay shipping.) E-mail me, slant6mopar@yahoo.com. If I could find my digital camera (damned miniturization makes things get lost easily!), I'd put photos online. It's a 1975 Sony top-loader with mechanical tuners, and *only supports Beta I* (effectively, SP only - no LP or EP speeds). If there's interest, I'll actually pull it out of the closet and copy down the model number. FOB Ottawa,
Cool article: disruptive technology (Score:4, Insightful)
People go crazy, you make more money than you can dream of, the world changes.
That's what geeks should dream to do...
Except that this isn't true (Score:3, Informative)
Neither did it create a truly new product kinescope already existed and provided a pretty similar function. Just slower.
So what this really proves is that most tech is based on other tech and that devices wich the average human considers revolutionary are in fact evoluti
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The cell phone was a similar technology revolution. There truly was nothing like it - a
Re:Except that this isn't true (Score:2)
Re:Cool article: disruptive technology (Score:2, Funny)
I wonder how many people in the audience were saying "This'll ruin the movie industry. We'd better kill it off before that happens".
Re:Cool article: disruptive technology (Score:2)
I think CD was like that. Not so sure about DVD though.
Re:Cool article: disruptive technology (Score:1)
DVD, to the consumer, was X+1. Essentially a CD for moving pictures, and was received as "it's about time", not "what an amazing, unexpected development."
Audio cassette tape might have been more important, but it took Ampex so long to make it available for consumers (due to IP constraints!), that it was also received with derision.
Truly we're at the end of an era. (Score:3, Insightful)
The next generation of broadcasters are going to look at tape like we look at recording on wax cylinders.
Good to see it's beginning, and even better to see its end. It's time has passed.
Re:Truly we're at the end of an era. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Truly we're at the end of an era. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Truly we're at the end of an era. (Score:2)
I wonder how may people here even know what a quad is.
For those who don't it's a 2" wide reel to reel video tape system.
It has an air drivin head and is quite the beast.
The station I worked for had 2 Ampex VR1200's, 2 RCA TR-50's and at the end of the quad era at theat station we picked up an Ampex AVR-1.. That thing was cool.
We ran those in production untill 1999 when they were retired for a digital library (think SAN with a video playback control system)
I
The date was, April 14, 1956 (Score:4, Funny)
Auto Focus (Score:2, Interesting)
Damn the RIAA for not stopping this then! (Score:4, Funny)
Disc recording came first (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, it wasn't the only way. In the late 1920s, back when cameras were still mechanical-scan, there were people in the UK who had hooked up vinyl disc recorders (search for "phonovision") to their primitive television sets and recorded a few programs. Not only did they record programs, but they actually used them for time-shift viewing!
The video recorder wasn't trivial. The problem was getting enough octaves of bandwidth for the video signal. And the bandwidth was directly related to the head-to-tape speed. Using transverse or helical scan (transverse scan is really just helical scan at a very sharp angle), you can increase the head speed enough for video. Later, color added another problem, and a technique called "color under" was used which shifted the chroma information to another band.
Laserdisc isn't really much different, except that it has enough bandwidth to not need color-under. And no, just because it has pits and non-pits, it is NOT digital, though the audio can be. The distance between the pit edges represents a wideband analog signal, with four sub-bands for audio and one for video.
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Sure, he was recording video, but he wasn't doing much of playing it back. [tvdawn.com]
Slashdot lag? (Score:1)
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Pornography Liberation Day! (Score:3, Funny)
Hugh Hefner's "VCR" (Score:2)
Reflection (Score:1)
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MPAA celebrates: "50 years survival" (Score:2)
And they still got enough money to sue kids and grandparents too! Yei!
Confessions of a Reel-to-Reel AV Nerd (Score:2)
My "high tech" junior high and high school was wired for video. Most classrooms had a coax port on the wall . . . nor for "cable" TV but for local transmission.
As I recall, there were maybe four channels.
The A.V. room had a funky old rack unit with a patch panel and a couple of small B&W monitors. Feeding into this were three reel-to-reel video tape machines: Two half-inch, plus one giant 1" Ampex. (Near the end of my high school years we got a video cartridg
Re:Well okay... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Well okay... (Score:2)
I did RTFA, did you GMFP? It wasn't a "put more people on it" kind of problem. Try to imagine putting 100 software developers to write a new version of Notepad, and you'll start to see what I mean.
Re:Well okay... (Score:2)
Bulk storage of data is so pervasive these days. Perhaps none of us really appreciate what a challenge this was.
I remember when I was 13 or so. My computer had a 300 baud modem to store data on casette. My uncle had a reel to reel audio recorder and I used to fantasize about getting 9600 baud out of it. That would have been some incredible storage system.
Re:Well okay... (Score:2)
I understand that it was a challenge. Read the sentence immediately following the one you quoted. I wasn't saying it wasn't a big f'n deal. I wasn't saying that those guys didn't do incredible work. I wasn't even saying that their work was overrated. What I was saying that the significance of 'only six men' is virtually nil. 100 men wouldn't have made it go faster. It wasn't a 'throw more
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I think the point is widely being missed here. If only six men built the Great Wall of China, that would be worthy of a number of exclamation points. It isn't so easy to measure a leap of technology by the number of people who were or weren't involved in developing it. It's sort of like saying the only 3 cans of Mountain Dew were consumed while developing the MP3 algorithm.
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Heh. Actually I'd rather be the PHB. "Video recording is a big complicated problem. If we hire 1,000 engineers, we'll have this problem licked by next week!"
Re:Well okay... (Score:1)
More likely, only six men got the credit.
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