Report on Last Decade of Online Advertising 211
Eh-Wire writes "Doubleclick.com has an interesting 24 page PDF available covering the history of online advertising over the last decade. Interesting trivia include recounts of some of the first online ads presented on HotWired. Online advertising has become very competitive in the last ten years and last year saw a revival of activity in this form of advertising. The usual selection of graphs and charts are there to pretty up the document. Overall an interesting read if you're into that sort of thing."
Gee, I'd love to look at that... (Score:5, Funny)
It's worth a look... (Score:3, Informative)
It's worth a look, if only for an insight into how far the technology has come in the last ten years. I never suspected you could embed pop-up ads in a PDF.
--MarkusQ
Re:Gee, I'd love to look at that... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Gee, I'd love to look at that... (Score:3, Funny)
127.0.0.1, in this case!
Re:Gee, I'd love to look at that... (Score:2)
all a matter of perspective. It's already there, you change it once and it is done. I think it is perfectly fit for the task and elegant in its' simplicity.
Now a crude hack would be changing my boss's host file to resolve slashdot to some hardcore pr0n site...
That was a joke, son (Score:2)
Damn it! (Score:5, Funny)
The last three years have been ad free... (Score:5, Informative)
squid and adzapper [sourceforge.net] which is currently replacing many ads with 1x1 transparent GIFs. This is especially handy because I tunnel all my web traffic at work over my 256k upstream DSL connection. Do I really want to be wasting bandwith with flashing or changing ads?
Any other ideas on how to surf ad free?
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:4, Interesting)
1) No ads. Only google ads do I see, because google's ads are in text.
2) Everybody at work thinks I'm working because my terminal looks like a dos screen.
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:2)
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:5, Interesting)
privoxy [privoxy.org]
it gives you GOBS of control and will block lots of popups that some popup blockers cant, strips all 1.1 gif files kills the info your browser uses to rat on you, and gives you control over cookies.
I use it here at work for everyone and it's very speedy even though it runs on a slow P-III600 for 100 users.
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:2)
On linux squid and privoxy are good options, but AdMuncher is releasing a linux version soon. I eagerly await it.
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:2)
Adverts removed by Ad Muncher: 685,517
Approximate bandwidth saved: 5,355 MB
Counter started: January 10, 2004
Re:The last three years have been ad free... (Score:3, Insightful)
And no, I don't mind ads such as Google's, or ordinary image-ads, as I know that most sites can stay online, because of them.
Shock and awe (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Shock and awe (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Shock and awe (Score:2)
Holy combos Batman!!
Re:Shock and awe (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm not falling for that! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I'm not falling for that! (Score:2)
That's about as likely as Microsoft funding a study that concludes "Linux is better than Windows" or Jerry Fallwell saying "Gee, maybe there's something to what that Mohammad guy said after all".
Re:I'm not falling for that! (Score:2)
hosts file (Score:2, Funny)
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
Online advertising saw a dramatic decrease today as one of the world's largest online advertising agencies, DoubleClick.com, mysteriously went silent.
Sources pointed to a /. article that linked to a PDF on DoubleClick.com's website as the culprit.
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
I will sum up the last 10 years of ads in 2 words (Score:5, Insightful)
Click Here (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I will sum up the last 10 years of ads in 2 wor (Score:2, Funny)
And the marketing division of DoubleClick as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes."
Re:I will sum up the last 10 years of ads in 2 wor (Score:2, Funny)
Almost read this but... (Score:3, Funny)
IronChefMorimoto
PLEASE (Score:5, Funny)
Re:PLEASE (Score:2)
if you think even the combined bandwidth of every slashdotter has a chance of
Re:PLEASE (Score:2)
Imagine a few corporations, a number of large, a horde of medium and a swarm of small businesses, and add on top of all that one home connection per slashdotter, since everyone accesses their home boxes from work. Might be a bit. Imagine if a slashdotter at Google sets all requests to return a 301 header pointing to TFPDF.
Don't underestimate the powwwerrr of the dark green side!
In other news... (Score:4, Funny)
Smart or Dumb... (Score:5, Insightful)
Traditionally posting a direct link to a 1 meg file on the front page of
Re:Smart or Dumb... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Smart or Dumb... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Smart or Dumb... (Score:2)
Here, let me summarize the last 10 years: (Score:5, Funny)
Advertiser: Ignore my ad, willya? Fine, I'll make it blink!
User: Ugh, it blinks! Block, block, block.
Advertiser: Block my ad, willya? Fine, I'll make it pop up!
User: Grrrr, I hate those pop-ups! Suppress, suppress, suppress.
Advertiser: Suppress my pop-ups, willya? Fine, I'll wire your eyeballs open while I play this movie for you--
(Sorry, that last step is from the near future.)
Re:Here, let me summarize the last 10 years: (Score:2)
Re:Here, let me summarize the last 10 years: (Score:2)
The less places you can get a piece of information, the less useful and truthful that information is anyway.
Re:Here, let me summarize the last 10 years: (Score:2)
Buh?! How many times have myths, rumors, hearsay, and outright lies been mistaken for fact and propagated throughout the media?
Re:Here, let me summarize the last 10 years: (Score:2)
Re:Here, let me summarize the last 10 years: (Score:3, Funny)
Its really difficult these days (Score:3, Insightful)
This is unfortunate as I see it, as it was easier in the earlier days before spammers took over the internet and all forms of advertising were acceptable and just known as part of the internet. I dont think the tools to block adverts are doing good either. sometime somewhere someone has to pay for the sites you visit. Not accepting their advertising banners and emails is a form of rippinbg people off I thnk.
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:2, Funny)
"By the way, if anyone here is in marketing or advertising...kill yourself. Thank you. Just planting seeds, planting seeds is all I'm doing. No joke here, really. Seriously, kill yourself, you have no rationalisation for what you do, you are Satan's little helpers. Kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself now. Now, back to the show. Seriously, I know the marketing people: 'There's gonna be a joke comin' up.' There's no fuckin' joke. Suck a tail pipe, hang yourself...borr
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:3, Insightful)
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's ripping people off.
All large scale sites (including slashdot) n
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:2)
And I would rather have free sites with advertisements that I am not compelled to download and watch their strobe-like effects.
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:2)
I would rather have free sites with advertisements than for-pay sites.
I would prefer not to pay twice: my time to watch/avoid the ad and my money for the increased, ad supporting price of the product.
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It's wrong that an intellectual property creator should not be rewarded for their work.
It's equally wrong that an IP creator should be rewarded too many times for the one piece of work, for exactly the same reasons.
Reform IP law and stop the M$/RIAA abuse.
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm not anti-advertising by any means, and I'd like to jump in here before the hordes rip you a new one.
I'm assuming that you have an opt-in only list, with addresses collected from people that knew exactly what they were opting in to? Otherwise it's unsolicited, and it's spam. Full stop. I don't htink there's anything wrong with opt-in lists, but if I get email I'm not expecting from someone selling something, I'm going to be right pissed. There's no way you can tell me that ditching email I receive witho
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:2)
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:2)
Re:Its really difficult these days (Score:3, Interesting)
Ever heard of a little thing called "TV"?
Nothing says fun... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Nothing says fun... (Score:2, Funny)
For values of "fun" approaching "suck"...
History? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:History? (Score:2)
Content on Doubleclick? (Score:5, Insightful)
Not that people RTFA on a normal article, but in this case any geek worth his salt will have Doubleclick blocked in their /etc/hosts, router tables, Adblock filters, or what have you and in the case of the tinfoil hat types, all of the above just to be sure. I really don't think it's worth turning my filters off just to hear Doubleclick spin the history of online advertising to make themselves sound good.
Self advertising != fact (Score:3, Insightful)
Online advertising works. It is highly effective and low-cost. This is the only way to sell your product to millions of people.
People love to get up to date information on your products so that they can buy them.
Double click are the people to deal with. We already have a great relationship with web surfers and we're the only way to go.
Re:Content on Doubleclick? (Score:2)
First Banner Ad Blocker 199x, Cookie Blocker 199x? (Score:2)
Re:First Banner Ad Blocker 199x, Cookie Blocker 19 (Score:2, Informative)
Great new product! (Score:2)
/. effect (Score:2, Funny)
Gotta love the format of the article (Score:4, Funny)
Wouldn't it be more appropriate, and just as taxing of resources to have the report in a Shockwave object that bounces around on your screen with embedded video and a 2-pixel wide "close" button?
I mean that is what 10 years of online adverising has mutated to.
Was Hotwired really the first? (Score:3, Interesting)
It's funny (Score:2)
Don't get mad at me it's for a magazine.
Re:It's funny (Score:2)
Re:It's funny (Score:2)
Headline got my hopes up (Score:4, Funny)
Last Decade of Online Advertising (Score:5, Funny)
We can only hope...
Re:Last Decade of Online Advertising (Score:2)
Re:Last Decade of Online Advertising (Score:2)
So the history of advertising is only doubleclick? (Score:3, Insightful)
Can it last? (Score:3, Insightful)
A great number of the ads sold these days are text ads, with Google the biggest seller. These ads are great because they are far less obtrusive for the user and the advertiser only pays per click. Many advertisers have been very happy with them, including lots of small businesses in once-small niches who have found loads more customers.
But as we've seen in the last few months text ads can be gamed. Your competitor might set up a botnet to "click" your ad, stealing dollars from you, and you might never know. Or the same competitor can hire real live humans from impovrished countries to do the same thing.
Also, even mighty Google has not been able to effectively stop link spam and SEO manipulation of the "regular" search results. Will people really keep advertising when they can be in the main search results section for possibly less money?
Then there are the ad blockers you Slashdotters are so fond of. Not only do they screen big banner ads, many of them screen out text ads as well. This is a niche technology but then so was pop-up blocking a year or two ago, now it is being built into IE. As Firefox gains traction I expect ad blocking to increase.
Then you've got the user registration schemes and technical route-arounds like bugmenot.com. The whole point of online advertising is being able to target certain customers, but users are sick of filling out registration forms and leery of being tracked in any way so we're seeing more technical tools to defeat the raison d'etre of online ads, targeting.
These are not truths anyone can get paid or respected for saying right now, so no one is saying them. But that does not make them any less valid. Online advertising is probably here to stay but there are a lot of kinks to work out before it becomes more troublesome and expensive for businesses or users to game the system than to accept the ads.
If only HotWired had patented online ads... (Score:2)
Don't worry.. (Score:2, Informative)
On that point - since I'm the kind that deploys ad-blocking measures, and having skimmed the report and seen mention of "impressions", I hope they don't count the likes of me as someone who consumes their ads.
HAHAHA (Score:2, Interesting)
In-game ads... (Score:3, Interesting)
All the games along the race tracks seem to be some made up products and ads for the game producers. Posters on the walls in FPS games, billboards over Vice City, all that stuff is filled with fake commercials.
It could be filled with real ones though.
The question is only "when"...
Re:In-game ads... (Score:2)
How dare they leave out SPAM (Score:2)
This document mentions spam only twice.
Please, please PLEASE! (Score:2)
SPAM, SPIM, SPVOIP and now SPRPC (Score:2)
After spam via email, spam via instant messaging and spam via voice-over-ip, the next big thing is.... spam via the MS-RPC protocol! Check the following network traces:
U 61.235.154.101:57710 -> 202.83.178.14:1027
..SECURITY..ALERT..Microsoft Windows has encounted an Internal Error
Your windows registry is corrupted.
Microsoft recommends an immediate system scan.
visit
http://e-regfix.com
to re
Grown Men Cry (Score:2)
Re:grrrr (Score:2)
Take your tinfoil hat off. It's roasting your brain.
Re:grrrr (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Not just grrrr but brrrr (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I Wonder (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I Wonder (Score:2, Informative)
I can think of two reasons of the top of my head.
1. People actually click thru the ads!
2. Most people aren't willing to pay subscription fees for the sites they visit, and the sites have to "thrust" ads upon users to get by.
Re:Hmmm... strange (Score:5, Funny)
Doubleclick is probably the only site on the 'net immunte to the Slashdot Effect.
Re:One would also *think* qaulity would matter... (Score:4, Interesting)
After 10 years you would think the quality of ads would improve as well.
Take for example those debt consolidation and mortgage/refinance ads you see all over. Oh, not sure which ones? You know- the ones that feature a dancing cobra or a giant corn on the cob or a long fat pig, all with the abbreviations for the 50 states on them. Yeah! That's what those ads are for! Nothing says "trustworthy, serious company, capable of handling your financial information" like a pig or cobra! A cobra! Jebus, who the hell makes up this company's demographic?
At least X-10 had ads relevant to the product, they didn't even pretend- remember the panning cameras that had the ad that panned up and down the chick in the pool?
Then you've got what the ad-sales people at my company call "bottom feeders." These are the Gators, Fun Web Products (you know them, Smiley Central, among others) and ad space resellers. God how I loathe this tier of advertising.
What I don't understand though, is how people (read: the ad geniuses) at these companies can seriously think that their cheesy ass ads will ACTUALLY draw customers.
Re:One would also *think* qaulity would matter... (Score:5, Funny)
What I don't understand though, is how people (read: the ad geniuses) at these companies can seriously think that their cheesy ass ads will ACTUALLY draw customers.
Get a free iPod, I did [slashdot.org]
Words fail here.
Re:One would also *think* qaulity would matter... (Score:2)
Advertising soon followed but when you have growth that rapid you develop what we call in economics an expansionary gap. Because of this, once the internet was first used for advertising tons up copy-cats popped up. Inovation and we were caught in a process of technological lag. More advanced tools are bei
Re:One would also *think* qaulity would matter... (Score:2)
There's a contradiction in terms in that sentence somewhere...
Re:One would also *think* qaulity would matter... (Score:2)
Apparently they do though. Once again, a small minority of stupid people (people who believe ads that clearly lie, people who respond to spam, Neilsen families, Congress...) determine what the rest of us get saddled with.
Re:One would also *think* qaulity would matter... (Score:3, Funny)
You see ... Most folk'll never click a pig, but then again some folk'll ... Like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel...
"Hey, I can call my Ma from this internet thingamy. HEY MA! GET OFF THE DANG ROOF!"
Re:One would *think* (Score:5, Insightful)
Apparently, they think they do. From TFA:
"Viral Marketing" -- WOW!
"Interactive on-page rich media ads" -- SWEET!
"Floating animated page takeovers" -- SIGN ME UP!
It almost sounds as if they're proud of these things.