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Seriously... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Seriously... (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually, I'm now an ex-Star Wars nerd. Suffering through Episode 1 cured me forever. Thanks Mr. Lucas!
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Now the first three pages will be "Why I voted for Star Wars: Episode 1"
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Using the same line of reasoning, I suppose maybe one could call Back to the Future 2 a syncquel...
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No no no (Score:4, Funny)
Your mother obviously didn't hug you enough.
-Charlie
Green Jedi ping-pong ball (Score:4, Funny)
But I will forever remember to tell my lover in tender moments that she's not like sand.
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There was no suspense. Because of my high Midiclorian count, I knew who would win.
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I might be wrong here, but sequel is the next one, and the episode 1 sequel would be the first Star Wars movie.
Colour me surprised, but I rather liked the original.
Ep1 on a Technicality... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Ep1 on a Technicality... (Score:5, Funny)
Yes yes, I know that's being way too pedantic but I just had the uncontrollable urge to point it out.
Re:Ep1 didn't ruin the franchise, Jedi did (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Ep1 didn't ruin the franchise, Jedi did (Score:5, Interesting)
Structurally, the movie also has terrible pacing. The Jabba's Palace sequences at the beginning are way too long. The final Yoda scene is too short, and ends far too abruptly, robbing it off some of what should significant dramatic effect. The whole Ewok thing is horrible, from the being taken prisoner sequences right through the battle scenes on the Forest Moon. It's really quite embarassing to watch them now, and it's unfortunate that Lucas had to repeat this "character for the kiddies" crapola in Episode I with Jar Jar. In fact, the whole thing about building an even bigger floating target... er Death Star... shows just how bad Lucas is at writing and plotting.
Re:Ep1 didn't ruin the franchise, Jedi did (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Ep1 didn't ruin the franchise, Jedi did (Score:5, Insightful)
But see, the "Leia in a gold bikini" is the kind of what I'm talking about. I thought Carrie Fisher was gorgeous in the white outfits she was wearing in the original movie and in Empire. In Jedi, it's like George caught on that, "Hey, I'll be all the guys would love to see a scantily-clad Carrie Fisher. Let's put her in a gold bikini!"
It just cheapened the franchise. The original movie didn't need good-looking girls in bikinis or walking teddy bears to be a good movie. It had a great story and a lot of heart.
Personally, I think the movies just got to be too big a phenomenon for their own good. There aren't that many things that can explode in popularity like that without losing what originally made it great.
As for the worst movie sequel I've seen, I'd have to go with Mission Impossible. I have friends that disagree, but I thought that the first one was pretty good. Lots of intrigue and plot twists. The second one was a Tom Cruise ego-fest. I was so disgusted that I didn't even go see the third one. In second place, I'd have to go with whichever Batman movie it was that had Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze in it. I have very low expectations of it, but it was so bad, about a half hour into it, I couldn't take any more and walked out on it. (Fortunately, I was watching it on cable, so "walking out on it" didn't cost me any money.)
All the Superman movies after Superman II were bad, too. (Yes, even the one that everyone loves that came out not long ago. I thought it was awful, and I think the only reason people thought it was good was because they were comparing it to the last Christopher Reeve movie with Atomic Whats-his-name.)
Re:Ep1 didn't ruin the franchise, Jedi did (Score:5, Funny)
Silly? Scary more like. Watch the battle for Endor again with adult eyes. Teddy bears bashing out the brains of storm troopers with rocks. Then playing drums with the empty helmets. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HEADS?! I lie awake at night fearing that SETI@home will make contact with Endor and they will invade the Earth, farming us like cows to make their delicious human head soup. Brrr...
Terminator 3 (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Terminator 3 (Score:4, Insightful)
Both T2 and T3 suffered from the same plot hole, however. When SkyNet sent the first Terminator back, it was assumed (and possibly stated, it's been a while since I saw it) that the resistance had to overrun the time travel facility and sent their own man back. Presumably they had then destroyed it, rather than let SkyNet take it back again. Then, in time for T2, SkyNet builds a second time machine. Only, this time it decides to aim twenty years later because... Actually, for no reason that's made obvious to the audience. Why did it not just send back a second terminator to help out the first one, and then destroy the machine so the resistance couldn't take it over? Well, I suppose that would have stopped them using the same plot for two (well, three now) movies, but apart from that, it doesn't make sense.
I quite enjoyed T3. It was a fun film with the same basic premise (and plot) as the previous two, although a very different feel. I was somewhat ambivalent about the T-X. In the first film, the terminator was the archetypal pursuer; it was relatively slow, but it kept on coming no matter what you threw at it. In the second film, the T1000 was something new; it could be anyone or anything, which helped keep the suspense for the audience and the fear for the characters. In T3, it was a basic robot with camouflage. It looked weaker than the T850 (even if it actually wasn't). It had very big guns, but no real need for them; you can kill a human with much smaller weapons.
One thing T3 did, was set up the series for another sequel. I would quite like to see a T4 with no time travel or Arnie, set shortly after T3 and covering the formation of the resistance.
Re:The good & the crap (Score:5, Interesting)
Basically the prequels were 100% pure George Lucas. And they proved that Lucas basically had two great films in him: American Graffiti and Star Wars, aka Episode IV, A New Hope. THX 1138 wasn't so great. Willow had all the worst qualities of what sucked in Jedi. (Clue: Yub yub!)
Episode III was saved because the elements of the story were things SW fans had been waiting to see for 28 years. Anakin becomes Vader. Vader and Obi-Wan duel on the side of a volcano... whoops, I mean a lava river.
Another thing about the prequels: they had a saving grace, and that was the character of Mace Windu. A Jedi badass? A BLACK Jedi badass? A Black Jedi (not Dark Jedi!) badass who wields a pimped-out gold lightsabre with a purple blade, who kicks ass, takes names, and never loses his Zen cool? Whoa momma. The thing I feel the most cheated about with regard to Episode III was that Anakin/Vader just booted Windu out the window, rather than fought Windu. Imagine what a battle that would have been: Anakin/Vader fights Mace Windu and Windu falls in battle, to the endless mirth of Darth Sidious.
Another problem with the Prequels: Hayden Christiansen. I call him "Little Wooden Boy" because of his lack of acting chops. He really IS wooden.
I remember, on this very site, the outrage that occurred when it was suggested that Leonardo Di Caprio was in the running for Anakin. OMFG THE TITANIC D00D!!! T3h suxx0rz!!! However, unlike Hayden, who basically can just look like a smouldering pretty boy, Leo can ACT. He is the next Johnny Depp, a former teen idol who has the potential of being a great character actor. Think about what his Anakin might have been like. Dark, dangerous, genuinely anguished, perhaps a little mentally deranged. He might have been able to transcend the material. And supposedly he was a real SW fanboy himself...he auctioned off a lot of his SW memorabilia a while ago [diamondgalleries.com]. Think of what might have been had he been there as Anakin, what might have been had Samuel L. Jackson got a bit more screen time as Windu, and what might have been had Lucas swallowed his pride and found a real good writer to fix the script.
Episode I was irretrievable. Anything of true importance to the continuum of the SW Universe in that movie could have been shown as brief flashbacks in either Episode II or Episode III. Actually, Episode III could have had the important stuff in the two prior prequels as brief flashbacks. Perhaps there should have been only one prequel, not three prequels. But I am talking art here. Lucas abandoned "art for art's sake" decades ago.
You know what gave me back my love of SW? Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars shorts. Why? They were loads and loads of FUN. The main weakness of the Prequels was the lack of FUN in them. There was giddiness and childishness but no real FUN. The pod race sequence was a concept for a video game, not anything enjoyable. "That is why you fail," as Yoda would say.
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Finding eight year old actors that can really act is hard, so people don't generally complain about Jake Lloyd, either.
Jake was fine. The problem was the character. He should have been 16-18 years old, not a fucking toddler. The bizarre compulsion to "Spielberg"* it is baffling. The role didn't even seem like it was written for a kid that young. I think Lucas just fell into the "cute" trap again.
* Steven Spielberg's strange fetish for having a child character "save the day" out of all proportion to the actual abilities of a child, even under conditions of Suspension of Disbelief. ET and Jurassic Park come immediately to
ep 1 (Score:4, Funny)
Qui-Gon Jinn: You almost got us killed! Are you brainless?
Jar-Jar Binks: I speck!
Qui-Gon Jinn: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here, you insensitive clod!
SW:E1 vs Revolutions... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:SW:E1 vs Revolutions... (Score:5, Interesting)
It is only the ending that is so obvious in the imagery to the general fan.
Was Revolutions a poor conclusion? On many levels, yes.
Looking at the list, Robocop 3 is probably the worst film on the list.
Episode 1 is cartoonish, and at times horrible, but it also features a few truly incredible sequences. To this day if I watch the Episode 1 trailer, I get goosebumps. The score is great, and when you only focus on the good aspects of the film, you can become an apologist.
Terminator 3 is a poor sequel, but a decent film.
Escape from LA isn't a great film, but a decent sequel to a wacky movie.
Robocop 3 is just a poor movie all around.
Not just poor... (Score:3, Interesting)
I once explained to a friend of mine who had never seen any of the Robocop movies, what the deal was.
me: Well you have a good-guy cop who gets shot to pieces and is re-animated as a cyborg who gets revenge on the bad guys.
friend: Okay, that sounds kinda cheesy.
me: But it's entertaining in a b-movie way. The sequel didn't top the original, but at least it kept in line with stuff that redeemed the first film, like all the vieled social commentary through bogus commericals and
There can be only ONE! (Score:5, Insightful)
No no no there *was* only one (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:There can be only ONE! (Score:5, Insightful)
at least they shot footage for Highlander II. they simply edited together B roll and some fresh shots of a shaking rubber leg for Starship troopers II.
Re:There can be only ONE! (Score:5, Funny)
That's because even reading a description of the movie made his head explode. It's that bad. If only I'd got here in time to warn him (*sob*).
Re:There can be only ONE! (Score:5, Funny)
Not Star Trek V (Score:5, Funny)
Worst, or most disappointing? (Score:4, Interesting)
Phantom Menace was the most disappointing - but it was merely bad, parts of it were even good; I certainly can't say the same about Robocop 3.
OTOH, Robocop 2 was not a sterling movie either.
There can only be one (if only) (Score:5, Interesting)
Dear god, what a stinking mess of a blocked garbage disposal filled with month-old nappies waste of ninety minutes of my life that was "Highlander II - the Quickening".
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Storm Ship Troopers 2 (Score:3, Funny)
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Missing Option: Star Trek Nemesis (Score:5, Insightful)
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I actually liked Nemesis quite a bit, what was wrong with it?
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Re:Missing Option: Star Trek Nemesis (Score:4, Funny)
I actually liked Nemesis quite a bit, what was wrong with it?
Nothing was wrong with it - when it first came out in 1982 and the bad guy was Khan.
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Star Trek V... close, but not quite. (Score:5, Insightful)
Nemesis' director was proud that he'd never seen any Trek, and was so clueless about the universe that he kept referring to Geordi LaForge as an "alien".
Sure, I'm delving into serious Trekkie-dom here, but Nemesis was a fucking travesty. ST:V was bad enough that Paramount went back and made VI just so Trek could have a proper send-off with a decent movie; The Next Generation deserved more than to end with that god-awful piece of crap.
Tough poll.... (Score:4, Insightful)
I chose The Phantome Menace, because I never thought that the Star Wars world could be so completely transformed into a sucky version of Goonies in Space, and because I refuse to acknowledge the existence of Highlander II.
Worst Sci-Fi sequel? (Score:5, Insightful)
Deus Ex: Invisible War!
Invisible War had the Matrix sequels' flaw (Score:5, Interesting)
Although both these statements are true, they miss the bigger picture. It's not just a problem of "didn't live up to the original", it's a problem of "made the original worse". When you give one story a fantastic ending like Deus Ex's "The world is about to change in one of several radically different ways based on your crucial choice" or the Matrix's "Humanity is about to be shown the way through the facade of their existence", you just can't ruin that by following it up with "Those choices make no difference, don't think about it too hard" or "Humanity is about to remain oblivious to some pointless wars with sewer robots".
I can cope with an inferior sequel, really I can. But is it too much to ask that the sequel not actively piss on the original?
I suppose at least with Deus Ex they couldn't please everyone - with three main endings (times 2^n different subplot endings) in the original, the best you can do in the sequel is pick one to be "official". But at the very least that would have left them with more than a third of their players feeling that the story hadn't been screwed up. (they might still feel that the gameplay had been screwed up, but one problem at a time...)
Tired of the SWI Hate (Score:5, Interesting)
- Stiff performance from Natalie Portman: Did anyone get that she was *supposed* to be a stiff? Just like formal dress indicates formal position, her painfully ornate costumes were supposed to
- No plot: This one I never get since SWI stands alone better than any of the three. The student surpasses the teacher, that's it. Throughout the movie, you get all sorts of hints about Obi Wan's superior skill and the deficiencies of his teacher. You get a great bit of foreshadowing when Quigon (sp?) makes a comment about Jedi not being invincible. All leading up to the best duel in all 6 movies (not the most important, the best executed) when the point is hammered into you; Obi Won beats the Syth 1V1 where his master fails. The setup was also all there. All the key pieces to carry you through to the finally were laid out.
- Technology was too advanced for the past: Another one I didn't see. The bot army was stupid AND had bad aim, unlike Stormtroopers who only had the latter problem. Also, all of the weaponry was either archaic (lumbering hover tanks) or impractically aesthetic (like the delicate-looking Naboo fighters).
- Metachlorians: Admittedly a silly inclusion, but not one that impacted the movie all that much in my mind.
- Jar Jar: Annoying and subtlely racist. I can't counter this one.
I welcome feedback. I have plenty of geek friends and it just seems like they all decided the movies sucked and closed their eyes. Most of their criticisms, when pressed, didn't hold out.2 words: (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Tired of the SWI Hate (Score:5, Insightful)
- The writing was on par or worse than most television scripts.
- Probably as a result of the last point, the acting was equally atrocious. No inspiration.
- Too much CGI. Popmatters.com had a review awhile back that basically said "fans are no longer impressed with special effects now that it's gotten so easy with CGI." Golem was done pretty well, but most CGI characters, like Jar Jar et al, have awkward movements that just serve to remind you that you're watching a movie.
- Weak, predictable story line throughout the entire second trilogy. Lucas should've seen this coming and added more psychological depth or something. It could've been really fascinating and poignant to see how a good person might "turn to the dark side" [see the Godfather I]. Instead, we're left with no real insight as to how this could happen, just that it did.
- Too much relying on formulae that was beginning to grow old with Jedi: for example, the 'theme planets': on Earth, we have deserts, oceans, forests, snow; but in Star Wars universe, an entire planet seems to have only one of these themes.
- And, a large part of each movie seems to focus on things that Lucas thinks are just 'neat' or 'cool': drawn-out action scenes that aren't even interesting because they're mostly just animated. The Blues Brothers at least destroyed actual cars for twenty minutes. I could watch that last BB car chase over and over, but a cartoon version of the same thing wouldn't hold my interest for two minutes (esp with bad writing).
Also, Jaws 4 or Poltergeist 2+ would've gotten my vote, though not really sci-fi.Re:Tired of the SWI Hate (Score:5, Insightful)
To that you add Darth Maul, one of the coolest looking villians since Boba Fett, and you get basically no dialogue or development out of him before he's killed by Obi-wan. Admittedly, i watched the film when it made network TV, but my opinion by half-way through was that I wanted to see Darth Maul take that double-ended sabre, and, similar to the scene in the first Lord of the Rings where you see Gil-galad spear an orc on the slopes of mount doom, spear both that stupid blond kid and Jar-Jar to opposite walls, then announce, "The Plot was Weak with This One".
Lucas should have handed over his 20 year old notes to someone with some ability, then gone on vacation until Ep 1 was released.
That's a hefty list but... (Score:3, Funny)
Missing option (Score:4, Interesting)
Revolutions. (Score:5, Insightful)
After having viewed the sequels, I am now convinced that the Wachowski brothers were lucky, and only lucky, with The Matrix. Know how it's always praised for being a great action movie with some good philosophical / religious underpinnings? I don't think any of that, besides the action part was intentional.
Look at the original. Remember how on first viewing, it was a great action movie that was relatively straight-forward, and upon viewing further all of these deeper themes came up, and THAT is what made the movie great? Look at the sequels. Those themes are present, but this time they are blatantly obvious, but presented in such a way that it's designed to confuse or throw off the viewer. The action is there, but it's no longer really the forefront of the flicks.
My theory is that the Wachowski brothers set out to make a really stylized action movie. The end. They wanted people flying around, dodging bullets, that sort of thing. That was the center of the story. Everything else was built around that. The matrix? Just a mechanism to give the characters an excuse as to how they're able to jump off walls and show off a nifty camera trick. They make the movie and release it. The religious themes? Not intentional. Just an unintended consequence of how they set things up. The oracle? An excuse as to how the main character can somehow go from a scared office drone to a fearless superhero in a two hour span.
Flick gets released, becomes a huge hit. Everyone's talking about the great action, but even moreso, the aforementioned subtle themes that made the movie not just pretty, but actually really smart!
The Wachowski brothers, now clearly trying to figure out how to make the sequels since they basically wrote themselves into a wall, are well aware of this and try to now make those elements the core of the sequels. The result? Two bad movies with great special effects but now those subtle things that made the original great are now not only shoved into your face at every possible moment, but also suck in general because they've been designed to confuse the shit out of the viewer. The brothers hope that this somehow makes the sequels "smart" in turn (The architect, anyone?). And they failed.
Think about it. The Wachowski brothers got very, VERY lucky that the original was interpreted the way it was. I can't watch that movie anymore and appreciate anything besides the action scenes, which are now not a big deal.
They should've left it alone. They moved the Matrix from what was being a classic sci-fi movie to just a decent action movie with horrible acting and bad dialogue.
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a) Making the movie drove them insane.
b) Or there just wasn't anyway to go any deeper into those themes and have a movie people will watch.
c) Or they were so busy sitting on their huge pile of cash they forget to write the other two until the last minute.
Personally, I vote for A.
Re:Revolutions. (Score:5, Insightful)
But Revolutions wasn't the only annoying sequel. Notice how every action scene in Reloaded ends with a Deus Ex Machina? Neo fights a million agent clones for 5 minutes. When he finally gets tired and it seems like he won't win, he just FLIES AWAY. Why didn't he fly away the second he saw there was more than one clone of the agent surrounding him? Why fight at all if you can always wind up running away?
The Freeway chase scene had potential for tension because all of the characters involved were the more mortal ones. Yet, alas, just as the situation becomes impossible and desperate, Morpheus prays to cyber-Neo-Christ and he literally flies out of the sky and plucks them out of danger. Almost the very DEFINITION of Deus Ex Machina.
It's lazy, and it's frustrating. I agree totally with the parent post, the Wachowskis got very lucky once. That's it.
Not Voting What The Poll Asks (Score:5, Insightful)
In terms of disappointment, I'd say that the winners are The Phantom Menace and Alien: Resurrection. Why? Because they mess up the Holy Trinity of movie series, the great trilogy. Like The Godafther, Indiana Jones, Back To The Future, and The Lord of The Rings. Star Wars used to be up there. Had Lucas pulled off a second great trilogy, it would have been awesome, but as it was, he officially added a bunch of inferior content to what once stood on its own as a great trilogy. Alien Resurrection did the same thing- it screwed up a great trilogy of films that already stood on their own. The Matrix was great, but the possibility of a trilogy was already ruined by the inferior Reloaded. Star Trek's always only been good every other movie. That is, until Nemesis, when they ruined the only good thing they had going, with episodes 2, 4, 6, and 8 being decent to good, they had to go screw up 10. But Star Trek 5's an even numbered movie anyway and couldn't possibly mess up the series, as no Star Trek fan expects a decent even numbered movie anyway.
Robocop's like The Matrix- only the first one was good anyway, so once the second one screws up the franchise, who really cares about the third one? Terminator's a good one to be upset about, because they were so close to pulling off a great trilogy, with two good movies. But the third one wasn't terrible, and the whole scenario still isn't as upsetting as Star Wars and Alien, which had completed awesome trilogies and then screwed things up.
Oh, and for the sake of completeness, Escape From L.A. is only in a two-movie series, it's the sequel to a movie that isn't all that good or well known but managed to become a bit of a cult favorite. I doubt anyone had very high hopes for it from the beginning, John Carpenter hasn't exactly been cranking out the hits [imdb.com] for the last couple of decades.
Share the Pain (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Escape From LA? (Score:4, Informative)
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Me, I'd replace Overboard with Soldier, but then, I'd replace Overboard with just about anything - well , except Captain Ron and/or Executive Decision.
And let's not forget (on the 'good Kurt Russell film' front) Tequila Sunrise, Tombstone, etc. etc. [imdb.com]
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I find it important that he dies early.
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It's like trying to keep your eyes open when you sneeze.
Re:Escape From LA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Escape From LA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Now Big Trouble in Little China? Pardon my bluntness, but if you didn't like it, you don't know a good movie when you see it. The most common complaint I hear is "it was totally stupid". Well yeah, it was kinda supposed to be. It's camp. Very subtle, but still camp. Here's the big clue: the manner of speech Kurt Russel employs as Jack Burton. He's not trying to sound like John Wayne, but rather he's trying to sound like some guy who's trying to sound like John Wayne. It's pure genius! Six Demon Bag! Hell of the Upside Down Sinners! How can you not like a movie like that?
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Re:First troll! (Score:5, Funny)
I see your first poll troll, and raise you a first troll poll:
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* Imagine a Beowulf cluster of poll trolls!
* 1. First troll poll, 2. ???. 3. PROFIT!
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* In soviet russia, first polls troll you!
* It's not a troll poll, it's a series of tubes!
* CowboyNeal doesn't need to troll.
How many... (Score:5, Funny)
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Is that an African or European poll troll?
I raise you an on-topic post (Score:5, Insightful)
Worst sequel ever: "Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation"
The only way you should watch this movie is if they pay you.
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That's why T3 is the worst sci-fi sequel ever. Takes a lot to beat out a "sequel" (actually a prequel, but let's not be picky) featuring Jar-Jar, but T3 did it.
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Don't complain about upturning the message in that series. Every one has had a different theory on what the results of time travel are, and the message is linked to that theory. There is no consistancy.
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Re:Missing option? (Score:5, Insightful)
You know what really sickened me about the Men in Black franchise? The first movie just wasn't very good either. Men In Black is a superb concept for a franchise - it has style, neuralyzers, weaponry, a few very decent characters - and just fails to develop them in any serious way.
I seem to recall the animated series went a long way towards realising that potential, bringing in very well developed alien plots, a major nemesis in the form of the increasingly grotesque rogue MIB founder, Alpha, and lots of cool technology. It culminated in Zed revealing MIB to the world. Wouldn't that have been AWESOME? In the movie?
But instead we got two tedious MacGuffin hunts and no actual science fiction. The the fact that the concept of the neuralyzer seems to be ingrained into the public consciousness now despite the relative mediocrity of both movies is a testimony to how great the MIB franchise could have been. It's the waste which saddens me.
Re:Has to be The Matrix Sequels (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Has to be The Matrix Sequels (Score:5, Insightful)
Has to be worst-designed vehicles ever (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Has to be worst-designed vehicles ever (Score:4, Informative)
Either the fx people got lazy (and given the movie is a steaming pile, can you blame them?) or the decision was made to expedite render time. Either way, it was stupid as hell.
Re:Has to be SW Ep1 (Score:5, Insightful)
Right word: midichlorians.
Re:Has to be SW Ep1 (Score:4, Funny)
He still can get away with it if he explains in the pre-prequel that midichlorians just like The Force and flock to it, but aren't it.
Will this make you happy?
Other things we'll see in the pre-prequel:
- The origins of R2D2 as an Apple II, and C3PO is a toster.
- We learn Anakin's father is a really cool guy (played by Rob Schneider). Yes, he has a father, just his mother was really drunk that night.
- The evil guys will make a bunch more Death Stars and the good guys will destroy it, first time by accidentally dropping some trash in an open hole, and second time by uploading a PC virus to the Death Star mainframe.
- We see the struggles of Obi Wan as a teenager in highschool, his conflict with the town bully, which ultimately make him become a jedy and kick his ass with a laser saber.
- We'll follow Yoda on his daily routine, the stress and dangers he has to deal with keeping the universe at peace, and a shocking secret will be revealed that explains why he's talking backwards.
Re:Has to be SW Ep1 (Score:5, Insightful)
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And how can you link to IMDB and yet mangle his last name? (That's "Whedon".)
Re:"How do we fill the other 105 minutes?" (Score:5, Interesting)
Is what they said after figuring out the two main plot elements in T3 that really only took up 15 minutes.
Actually, I always thought T3 was kind of interesting for the fact that it was a bit of a typical "brainless action movie" and then at the last moment that have a bit of a twist-- the bad guys win. It was only surprising because the movie was otherwise pretty formulaic and nearly plot-less.
Not that it makes T3 a good movie, exactly, but I think it's not as bad as it could have been.
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If you're going to do a war/battle epic why not set it inside the Matrix where you can do much cooler stuff than in a cave.
This would have also allowed Neo to level up again because as powerful as he is, there are some nasty creatures from older matrices and as he's only one man, he his limitations. I'd have love to have seen him lead the army inside the M
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Actually, after the scene where he zaps the squiddie at the end of II, I was hoping III would end in a lab somewhere with Keanu as some slacker grad student coming out of a direct neuro interface experiment, and going, "whoooaaaa....". I briefly thought they were going to pull the multi-leveled ma