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from the can-i-borrow-a-cup-of-internet dept.
The nytfeed provides us with an article about the current state of internet connectivity on the African continent. Only 4 percent of Africa's population has regular access to the internet, with most of those people living in North African countries, or the country of South Africa. This might seem like a market ripe for development, but the article explains that there are numerous difficulties involved getting an infrastructure project off the ground. "Africa's only connection to the network of computers and fiber optic cables that are the Internet's backbone is a $600 million undersea cable running from Portugal down the west coast of Africa. Built in 2002, the cable was supposed to provide cheaper and faster Web access, but so far that has not happened. Prices remain high because the national telecommunications linked to the cable maintain a monopoly over access, squeezing out potential competitors. And plans for a fiber optic cable along the East African coast have stalled over similar access issues. Most countries in Eastern Africa, like Rwanda, depend on slower satellite technology for Internet service." The good news is that, of course, progress is being made. Just ... slowly.
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Worry not... (Score:1, Funny)
Not africa's biggest problem (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/)
I'd say that Social, Political, and Agricultural reforms are FAR more important to the average African than the good old WWW.
Africa is living proof that imposition of a foreign structure and hierarchy followed by throwing fists-full of aid money is not enough to improve the lives of a people.
Re:Not africa's biggest problem (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Not africa's biggest problem (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.randomfield.com/ | Last Journal: Friday November 09, @04:54PM)
Re:Not africa's biggest problem (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.randomfield.com/ | Last Journal: Friday November 09, @04:54PM)
This is not necessarily just about selling over the Internet, and it should be clear by now that I see Internet access as part of the larger problem of communications infrastructure, however I believe there are numerous examples throughout the world where Internet access has provided significant economic benefits. If it were otherwise, why would the Internet have spread throughout the world?
Re:Not africa's biggest problem (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www1.istockph...ind_your_own_busines)
- Publishing: news, info, blogs, editorials, research, statistics, etc
- Political commentary and organization
- Directories of phone numbers, businesses, professionals, resumes, jobs, etc
- Maps and yellow pages
- Email, telephone, video conferencing
- E-Commerce & trading
- Government services, taxes, forms, etc
- Online courses: particularly useful in rural African towns
- Technical support for machinery, computers, software
Africa needs the internet.Re:Not africa's biggest problem (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday September 06 2005, @12:39PM)
I'd say that Social, Political, and Agricultural reforms are FAR more important to the average African than the good old WWW.
Africa is living proof that imposition of a foreign structure and hierarchy followed by throwing fists-full of aid money is not enough to improve the lives of a people.
Interesting viewpoint. A few points immediately sprang to mind though:
Firstly, access to better information via the internet can play its part in improving social, political and agricultural conditions in Africa.
Granted, there are other problems, such as infrastructure, to overcome but that doesn't negate the benefits that internet connectivity could provide to developing world nations.
Secondly, the "imposition of a foreign structure and hierarchy followed by throwing fists-full of aid money" can work... in the right circumstances. West Germany after the Second World War is one example. Clearly today's Iraq isn't though.
The keys would seem to be honesty and acceptance: if you genuinely care about improving the situation on the ground and can convince people of your sincerity then you can make huge changes for the better. However, if your help is poisoned by political or economic rhetoric then you're doomed to failure and/or accusations of attempting to profit from the situation.
Forcing HIV/AIDs-related programmes to teach abstinence rather than educating them about the benefits of using a condom, even though you know that the abstinence message will fail but that condoms will save lives, because of religious pressure is crazy.
Similarly, pushing African mothers to use powdered baby milk rather than encouraging them to breastfeed, which is a healthier option, just to sell more of your product is exploitative at best.
Put another way, if developed nations really wants to help less fortunate nations then perhaps thinking about themselves and what's in it for them should disappear from the equation.
Lastly, Africa is a pretty big place. It's not homogenous, and what might be a problem in one place might have already been solved somewhere else. Anything that helps disseminate knowledge can only be a good thing, especially in rural areas.
Imagine how much and how quickly you can find help online when your PC's playing up compared to how little and how slowly you can find it offline. Now imagine that information on something more essential to your everyday life, like basic healthcare advice, how to repair a vital piece of machinery, or how to save a crop.
Even something as simple as knowing what the average shopper 10,000 miles away will pay for your produce could make a huge difference: knowing that might help you secure a fairer, more beneficial price for your harvest, which in turn could dramatically improve the standard of life for you and everybody around you.
The possibilities are limitless.
Rejoice! (Score:5, Funny)
Fortunately (Score:3, Funny)
Bigger picture... (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.malti.org/)
Re:Bigger picture... (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday February 13 2007, @05:31PM)
The treatment Hamas has recieved from the EU & US clearly demonstrates what western leaders think about the spread of democracy. They don't mearly fail to recognise "the right of Hamas to exist" they actively seek to destroy it, the US has recently gone so far as to arm and train Fatah militants in order to maintain the status quo via the good ol' divide and conquer routine.
The odd thing is that Hamas has kept it's word and has not used suicide bombers for over 3 years (yes, they stopped BEFORE they were elected by ~70% of the popular vote), this self-imposed "restraint" is despite the fact many of it's elected officials have been assasinated or kidnapped by Isreal during the last 3yrs. Even more curioius is the fact that the suicide bombers during that time have come from the Fatah group, the same group that the US have recently armed and trained to fight Hamas.
Just to remain on topic you can see the same strategy in Africa, during the 70's-80's the SLA were considered an "evil" in the heart of Africa, apparently now that China has control over Sudan's oil,
Of course the prime example of hypocricy in our time is the fact that - 25yrs ago OBL & Saddam were both "good guys" fighting the commies with our "generous" financial and political support. I could rant forever with similar examples, $2B worth of attack choppers donated to Burma's nut-job rulers in '97 anyone?
Disclaimer: None of this makes "the other side's" actions any better, but if anyone thinks I have my facts about Hamas all fucked up, read this [theage.com.au], and double check the information for yourself.
Infrastructure? (Score:2)
(http://heybryan.org/)
Re:Infrastructure? (Score:4, Informative)
market ripe for development? (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/~nurb432/ | Last Journal: Friday August 27 2004, @03:24PM)
Re:market ripe for development? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why would anyone in Africa want that? High speed internet -- who needs it! Someone might make some money by providing it to people. Money! They should work for love! They should make fiber optic cables out of their own altruism and power the routers with the self-satisfaction they get from doing good.
What evil thing will those exploiters do next? Commercially exploit hunger by selling good, healthy food at a small profit? Better to starve than allow such exploitation!
Don't you want YouTube? (Score:2, Troll)
(http://www.designpoolstudio.com/)
-A Nigerian Prince
Typical cost - for those who might not know (Score:5, Informative)
A bit off-topic here: I also got educated in a way...that is...I realized that it is actually hotter in USA (Texas) than in some of these African countries that we think are way too hot. Temperatures never went above 86 degrees F, in the capital (Kampala)...compared to the 113 degrees in some parts of the US lately.
Irony? (Score:5, Funny)
The Internet May Not Be a Top Priority, (Score:3, Interesting)
Online and waiting to migrate to the West (Score:1)
http://www.google.com/trends?q=united+states [google.com]
http://www.google.com/trends?q=united+kingdom [google.com]
http://www.google.com/trends?q=germany [google.com]
This situation sounds familiar... (Score:1)
(http://www.emeraldforce.org/)
1) Some millionaire who made a fortune during the tech bubble and who has never set foot on African soil, promises the telecom equivalent of the sun to Rwanda. Him and his company, Terracom, fails to deliver. Blames government and network infrastructure (that of course said millionaire never could've imagined!).
2) Governments get pissed off at the bait-and-switch. One fines Terracom "for failing to comply with its licensing obligations, failing to provide information about its operations and failing to pay several fees." Governments, however, can't do anything about schools and locations not having electricity...or can they?
3) Enter new CEO of Terrecom. Promises the sun again. They're a totally different company, they promise!
4) Government is fed up, starts hooking up telecom infrastructure themselves. Terrecom "welcomes the competetion" and whines (somewhat rightly) about infrastructure yet again.
Winners: dudes who took the government/Venture Cap money and ran.
Losers: anyone waiting and trying to get affordable and accessible Internet access.
The sad thing is, strike out Terrecom and replace AT&T and you have roughly the same situation (if only a tenth as bleak) in the USA (and I live in the USA).
Just wondering: why is it so hard to get Internet access to (central) Africa, but the water-locked continent of Australia is, or seems to be, humming along just fine?
waste of time and money (Score:2)
the internet affords them nothing tangible, which is what they need.
So What (Score:1)
(http://www.hormel.com/)
Africa has soooooooo many other problems that worrying about the internet doesn't even make the top ten. Certainly their corrupt government and military must have some connection - how do they wire transfer all the money they're laundering?
I'm sure some rich dumbass will make it their pet project though, since you know everything can be fixed if only some (media whoring) artist or actor gets behind the problem.
Africa (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Friday November 09, @01:36AM)
home sweet home (Score:1)
Africa - Too many problems to list (Score:1)
An old project seems to have gone away (Score:1)
(http://www.macmegasite.com/)
OLPC, anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
The fact that children in Africa are accessing porn is a good sign. It's f*cking AMAZING! Why? Because that means that for the first time these children are reaching out and interacting with websites and other people across the globe. If they are connected, then can receive information and they can SEND information.
Africa has huge issues with corruption. Africa has huge issues with genocide, rape, tribal warfare, dictatorships... and the list goes on. But the really great thing about technology is that while it can enable people to have guns and bullets and other tools of war, it can also give them cell phones and tiny laptops.
If more and more villages in Africa have access to technology that is not dependent upon the grid for power or for an internet connection (solar or manual power, satellite or some kind of ad-hoc network for Internet access), then that will enable communities to unite, it will enable people to be educated about relevant health, political, and social issues, and it will (hopefully) enable groups of spread-out people to push through reform of governments and pave the way for new infrastructure.
If you see a homeless person on the street, giving them a few cents might help them for a day, but the best thing you could do for them is to help them find the right path for them to take to earn money and become a contributing member of society.
There are a number of possible ways that we in the Western world could help starving children in Africa. The best way for us to help people in 3rd world countries is to give the individual people tools which enable them to organize their communities, reform their governments and companies, and build up their countries from the inside out. A generation of children communicating through small, portable, rugged computers seems like an excellent tool to jumpstart the organize-reform-build process.
And then when they are a first-world country they can have spiffy fiber-to-the-premises broadband for all, just like we do in America. Oh wait.
Hmmm... perhaps we need to start encouraging OUR kids to do some social/political reform as well!
Yeah... (Score:1)
I am not looking forward for it (Score:1)
Only x percent has . . . (Score:1)
And what percentage of Africa's population has regular access to electricity? To clean water? To abundant food? To peace and security? To a regular job? To education (ok, this one might come for free with Internet access)?
Regular access to the Internet will be important for Africa's future, but regular access to a few other "minor" necessities are a bit more important in the present.
Pearls for Pigs! (Score:1, Flamebait)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 13 2004, @02:58PM)
The concept of thought crime. (Score:2)
Or, perhaps... (Score:2)
(http://www.fallingbullets.com/)
Africa: Susceptible to Scams? (Score:1)
Wireless for Africa: The only way forward (Score:2)
(http://www.karastathis.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday April 05 2005, @07:51PM)
Development Happens in Order (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.therandymon.com/)
It's true service is slower and more expensive but in the capitals and in major cities there is more than enough to go around. In Benin there is dial up service for about $15 per month plus the cost of the phone call, ADSL service in the capital for about $75 a month for 256/128, and if that's not good enough you can pay more (up to $200/month) for greater bandwidth. It's more expensive than I'd like and the service is occasionally down for service, not to mention phone line trouble, saturated networks, and so on, but that's another story. The point is, I've got Internet in the capital (Cotonou, if you care) and it's essentially satisfactory. Inland in places like Burkina Faso and Mali they've got internet connections as well, but they are more expensive and the bandwidth isn't as good, since the network goes through the coastal nations - Ghana, Togo, and Benin. The big agencies - UN, embassies, major companies working in the region - also have available satellite internet at much higher prices.
Lack of infrastructure is not the problem. Lack of a market willing to pay for the service that demands that infrastructure is, and as the market develops the infrastructure will suddenly seem like a worthwhile investment. You don't get Africans connected by building a bunch of equipment and hoping they show up. The second factor is regulation, which is clearly an area where African governments have some growing to do. To build a telecommunications sector (and make no mistake about it, if you put in cable and connections you're building the sector) you need effective government regulation. Unfortunately that has to happen from within, and no multinational company can effectively impose good government (and thus good government oversight) on a nation. The article's story about Kigali is a perfect example of this point.
In the meantime, where's the scandal? I have friends and colleagues who live in small villages inland, not in the capital. Every one of them has a hotmail/yahoo.fr/gmail account, and when they need to use the Internet they go to a cybercafe for a quick hour or two. That fits their budget and works well.
If you want to connect Africa, help educate the people so they can improve their own economic situation. They will form the basis for a stronger economic market for these services, and the system will be sustainable. Impose on these growing countries the infrastructure before they are ready to sustain it and you will just perpetuate the development myth.
Before leaving this post, I highly recommend you read White Man's Burden by William Easterly, if the idea of development interests you. After 40 years of investing in growing countries we know a lot more about it than before, and there are many lessons to be learned.
What Good It Is (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Sunday June 19 2005, @01:43PM)
Less than 60% of Africans are literate.
20% of Africans don't have electricity and that number is increasing by almost 10% per year. That is, they're losing it, not getting it.
Less than 1% of Africans have land line phones. Less than 10% have cell phones, and coverage is spotty, unreliable and low rate.
Africa is waiting for the web like dolphins are waiting for a subway.
The people who think Africa really needs the web are mostly the people who stand to profit from selling it to them. Much of what did get sold would never be put to use -- it'd get resold or just sit and rot, the money gone to the corrupt governments, agencies and companies that were supposed to provide it to people the majority of whom couldn't afford it anyway.
How can an American company get involved? (Score:1)
OLPC? (Score:2)
(http://www.freedos.org/jhall/)
But, didn't we just send a bunch of internet-enabled laptops there?
Posting From "AFRICA" (Score:1)
SA Connected ... (Score:2)
(http://www.last.fm/user/tommytentimes/ | Last Journal: Tuesday November 25 2003, @09:13PM)
... It may well be, but it doesn't have the bandwidth. I'm from the UK and essentially work for the EMEA region of my employer as a consultant, which has resulted in my last 3 trips being 2 to SA and one to Israel. While there may well be internet in these countries, the bandwidth just isn't there, to the point where Yahoo mail breaks, and facebook, my VPN, Google mail, and I really wouldn't try to watch anything on YouTube.
So, it may be great to get everyone connected, but they will be on a different tier of Internet from a functionality perspective, and I am not sure that SA needs this right now, let alone the whole continent of Africa.
Worse Broadband Than Australia? (Score:2)
(http://www.cryptognomic.net/)
Oddly enough their deep well of pain and suffering is due to exactly the same problems we are struggling with here in Down Under land.
No surprises there.
Been There, Done That.
Still have the scars to prove it.
Still hoping one day we'll have a government interest in waking our country up from THIS NEVERENDING NIGHTMARE.
Nothing but ignorant drivel (Score:1)
South africa no internet haven (Score:1)
what Africa needs is polotitions that aren't corrupt and know what they are talking about about, I mean when the lead of the anti aid's campaign and also the vice president of south Africa says in court that a shower will get rid of AIDS, you can see there are bigger problems then email !
Well in Ghana... (Score:2, Interesting)
Yes we are on the west coast, and are a former British colony with natural resources, but the problems discussed in the article are pretty much standard anywhere in Africa. Lets take a very advanced technology and impliment it before we have roads, reliable water or reliable electrical power. I arrived in Ghana 1 month after load shedding started (due to either poor management/lack of maintenance of the Akosombo Dam, or slight drought conditions the year before), the school I am at has expanded a bit more than it should have, so we had some water problems (although the whole village has had water problems, due to boreholes not being dug deep enough), so I experienced first hand both sides of Mr. Wyler's plight.
Africa Online is the most horrible service I can imagine, their squid transparent proxy cache server has craches several times, their DNS server's barely function, and their routing is faster when their main fibre connection fails and the backup satellite connection is switched to. They have been here for 10 years or so, and charge customers through the nose as they were the only game in town. Now they have a huge amount of competition and will learn very quickly they need to upgrade, repair, and plan new network expansion.
On the other side, getting Ghana Telecom DSL was a massive pain, 3 months after being told "Next week" they would come for installation (this is common, it is referred to as Ghana Maybe time, or GMT for short). But when we finally got it, the service isn't up to spec, but just by having a decent (new) network, and working DNS servers it is a thousand times better, and they do seem to be attempting to fix their problems. Also, saving over 500 USD a month is very nice, over 6000 USD a year.
Now my computer lab has the best internet connection in probably 100 miles or more, and is offering something not really available before to the children. Google Earth functions now, kids can download videos of their favorite hip hop artists on youtube, and can upload art/other stuff to community sites like flickr/deviant art/etc. There is definitely a tech boom here in Ghana.
Now if only I didn't have electricity off tomorrow from 6am to 6pm.
What Africans think about this issue (Score:1)
I taught in Africa in 2006, and I can tell you that I never met a single English-speaking person who did not have a yahoo account, including a Maasai guide in tribal robes who had to walk and hitchhike 40 km to get to a town with an internet cafe. People are desperate for connection. Wouldn't you be?
My students (from all over Africa) and I put together a website on universities in Africa in general and internet issues in particular. That website was some of the background material for the New York Times article. It's at www.arp.harvard.edu/AfricaHigherEducation/. If you go to "student voices" you can read my students' stories and opinions.
The website has several goals beyond bringing the students' voices. One goal is to help explain WHY communications are so expensive in Africa, because of predatory pricing by cable monopolies (and it's worth remembering that some 30% of the ownership of African cables are held by multinationals, including AT&T and France Telecom). Costs are high because, as the NYT article said, governments are too weak to regulate properly and operators charge what they can. If you want to help Africa, write your Congressman and ask for World Bank funding for a second cable, based on an Open Access model. For $250 million you can revolutionize telecommunications in East Africa. That's nothing compared to most infrastructure projects, absolutely nothing.
The second meta-goal of the website was to puncture the false impression that many well-meaning people pick up from the media, that Africans are somehow special and exotic and in need of special treatment. No country, it's worth remembering, has ever developed because of foreign aid. Countries all develop through building business and industry and trade. Rememeber that 200 years ago there were famines in Sweden too. Why are so many Americans in the Midwest blonde? Because peasants in Scandinavia were desperately poor and they left by the boatfull. The best way to help African countries now is to treat them as you would any other countries that are poor, yes, but growing fast (6% per year in sub-Saharan Africa right now), and with the same demands, needs, and desires as anyone else. The greatest help we can do for Africa is to promote that growth.
EJM
SAT 3 is not the only connection. (Score:1)
(http://www.eldaria.net/)
Re:How about not killing each other first... (Score:1, Interesting)
The answer is: If we postpone improvements until there is no killing or until there is religious harmony, then we would never do anything.
Re:I'm glad (Score:1)
(http://www.emeraldforce.org/)
Don't believe me? Try searching for the string "Nigeria" in the print version of the article.
This is why I'm a little PO'd that when almost anything about Internet access in Africa comes up (ref: today's OLPC article), it's always "Fuck that, I don't want more 419 scams!" (never occurring to oneself to educate oneself aboutthem and just delete the damn things).
Thinking along those lines is a dis-service to others in Africa who need the speedy access, such as educational institutions, medical workers, relief/aid workers, scientists, engineers...and can make a big opening for globalized businesses (that are not mining or petrochem), such as car/truck companies and electronic research companies, to come into the country and start building stuff up. For all we know (and I might get modded down for this), Kigali, Rwanda in 10-20 years could be the next Bangalore, India if they have the resources to do it.
Thinking in the mentality box of "SCAMMERZ!" or "All they want is teh pr0n!" is what may be a small part, but still helping to mismanage stop investment in Africa, which is the point of TFA in the first place.
Re:Out of Africa... (Score:5, Informative)
(http://philwelch.net/)
Re:Internet? (Score:2)
Re:How about not killing each other first... (Score:2)
(http://www.symas.com/ | Last Journal: Monday April 09 2007, @06:48PM)