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Microsoft Temporarily Pumps the Brakes on Its Intrusive Windows 11 Ads (windowscentral.com) 32

Microsoft says it will temporarily cease its contentious Windows 11 upgrade campaign following user backlash. The tech giant had been bombarding Windows 10 users with full-screen popups urging them to switch operating systems. Starting with April's security update, these intrusive notifications will be discontinued. Microsoft says it will unveil a revised upgrade strategy in the coming months, as Windows 10 support nears its October 2025 end date.
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Microsoft Temporarily Pumps the Brakes on Its Intrusive Windows 11 Ads

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  • by Mspangler ( 770054 ) on Thursday August 15, 2024 @07:12PM (#64710118)

    "Starting with April's security update.."

    ???

    Profit?

  • If the picture in this version of the article [windowslatest.com] is accurate, that's not a misprint.

    I think the news here is that someone at windowlatest forgot the name of their publication. Either that or "latest" means "latest to the party" not "late breaking news."

  • .. why fix Windows 11 so it installs on older machines?

    • by Creepy ( 93888 )

      Ha, it doesn't even install on newer machines for some people. None of my work computers support it, but they buy f**king $400 Dells with no GPU (and some of my work is on CAD, which uses GP-GPU - Integrated Intel HD-2000 really doesn't cut it). I'm still running Windows 7, which had support end like 4 years ago. I have to jump through hoops to log in because of that (2 factor? more like 4). My work laptop is not Windows 10 compatible, much less Windows 11... it is 3 years old, like a year after Windows 7 s

    • Seriously. I get the upgrade message and then it tells me I'll need to upgrade my CPU, even though this is a gaming machine that has no problem running the latest shit.

      Fuck off.

  • by CoolDiscoRex ( 5227177 ) on Thursday August 15, 2024 @08:37PM (#64710274) Homepage

    Windows 10, Windows 11, Windows 12 (soon)

    What is the difference?I use Windows only on my gaming machine. My current one is Windows 11, the previous was Windows 10, but aside from them destroying the start menu, I cannot tell fuck all difference between them. Every task is still performed the identical way, I cannot think of one good reason that people would take the time, energy, and risk to upgrade from one to the other, as they are the same OS with a slightly different shell in one part of the interface.

    I admit that I am not a Windows person and use it only begrudgingly for leisure, and maybe if I used it more as a power user there would be some great benefit, so I will just ask:

    What is it that a user is supposed to gain from going to Windows 11, because if there is a benefit, I completely missed it.

    • The biggest difference is you don't have to pay M$ a boatload of money every year for security patches after October 2025.

      If only there was some [wikipedia.org] other [wikipedia.org] choice [wikipedia.org].

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        People aren't going to just switch to Linux, because of experiences like these:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

        These are ordinary users doing ordinary stuff, and it was painful for them. A lot of stuff just didn't work and they never managed to fix it, having to keep Windows around to do some of their work. Video editing and graphics drivers seem to be a major issue for a lot of people, for example.

        While Windows is crap, everything else is worse. ChromeOS is great if you on

        • Linux is fantastic if everything "just works". But when it doesn't...welcome to Hell, kid. And I say this as someone who has used Linux, on and off, for 30 years. I've got a 3d resin printer, and theoretically there is a native Linux slicer program (Chitubox) but it locks up randomly on my secondary system with an nVidia card, and on a spare laptop with integrated Intel graphics, it behaves fine. Trying to track down the root cause is immensely frustrating.

          • Linux is fantastic if everything "just works". But when it doesn't...welcome to Hell, kid.

            How is this different from Windows, the OS that most people reinstall or even literally buy a new machine (I have bought a few of the old ones when people did this, which is how I know they did it) when they have any serious problem because fixing it is such a massive PITA?

    • by rossdee ( 243626 )

      "Windows 12 (soon)"

      So when is Windows 12 coming out?

      And of course the only reason people get Win 11 is because it comes with the new PC they just bought.

      • Re:The Difference? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by jth1234567 ( 514045 ) on Friday August 16, 2024 @01:00AM (#64710542)

        "And of course the only reason people get Win 11 is because it comes with the new PC they just bought."

        What many people don't know though, you can install Windows 10 over the OEM Windows 11 install, and it will automagically activate with the same key. Just need to disable TPM from Bios settings to prevent an automatic Windows 11 update (really a downgrade) again.

    • There's a huge difference between windows 10 and windows 11. In windows 10, you can disable the bloatware, the Lego Duplo interface, etc. In windows 11, you have to install all sorts of 3rd party software to bring back a usable UI.
    • by allo ( 1728082 )

      Windows 11 demands a Microsoft account.

  • "Temporarily".

    It will be back once brouhaha dies down.

  • pricks on here trying to tell everyone how Windows never shows them any ads? The rest of us aren't hallucinating.....
  • start by removing all the annoying ads from menus?
  • No taxation without representation.
  • By the time April rolls around I'll be annoyed enough to have found a way to totally disable the Windows update process where I cannot change to Linux. Linux's GUI is annoying as heck; but, Microsoft's Desktop's bit rot and associated outrages are even more annoying. It may be time to simply live with an unpatched Win 10 machine for the applications that are simply incompatible with Linux using a docker image and live with Linux.

    {o.o}

    • Linux's GUI is annoying as heck

      Which GUI? There's not one, which is part of why it's annoying. You have to mess with settings for at least two different desktops in order to get all of the common apps on your system just to look the same, let alone behave the same.

      On the other hand, Windows' GUI is trash. They have really crapped it up in 10, let alone 11. Just simple stuff like dragging windows to different screen edges to resize and place them is broken, as well as having windows stay where you left them when opening new ones! Part of

      • I find that the window dragging and docking and sizing works very well in Win10 and haven't seen the problems you describe. But my monitors are smaller. I wonder if it's a driver thing, or if Windows just can't handle big 4k screen sizes well.

        One weird thing I noticed is that recently some applications start up behind other windows rather than at the front. They didn't do that before so I blame some Win update.
        • It shouldn't be a driver thing, but I guess I wouldn't rule it out.

          When I use dual monitors instead things work better, where more apps are behaving as "fullscreen". I still get problems where things open behind other things (as you said) and also the problem where office apps de-maximize themselves and come to the foreground when I open another window in the same app.

  • ... will temporarily cease ...

    I was looking at discounted-price electronics today: They don't market laptops as "Windows 11" anymore. I don't know if that's because of growing disinterest in Windows 11, or because consumers don't have a choice. ChromeOS is still for children and junk-ware, Android is mouse-unfriendly and not a full-featured OS, MacOS still hasn't been ported to amd64 and the Docker/AppImage solution to updating Linux, isn't popular: People truly don't have a choice, I'm surprised Microsoft cared about the complaints

  • Is there any good reason to update from win 10 to win 11? Other than MS will stop support?

  • I'm hoping Windows 12 will fix the sins of Windows 11 (just like Vista and Windows 8 were largely fixed in later releases).
    However, Windows 10 is enjoyable only because Open Shell fixes the craptastic Win10 start menu.
    [ https://github.com/Open-Shell/... [github.com] ]

    Win11 broke so many nice Win10 things it's painful. e.g.
    - Why use white popup windows with no borders against the white running application?
    - Hiding all the most useful items in right-click menus is a mistake.
    The GUI experts are out of touch with t
  • My 4790k still works great. This is the end of the road for my currently motherboard, but I haven't seen any great deals on a newer gen processor and motherboard. I buy most of my hardware used and my setup runs every game I want to play. I just don't see the need for a new PC.

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