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Twitter Announces It Will Expand (Non-Public) Downvoting (ibtimes.com) 40

Ars Technica recently pointed out that the concept of downvoting posts and comments "has been a staple of the Internet for decades, appearing on sites such as Slashdot, Reddit, and Ars Technica."

And Twitter is now experimenting with its own version, according to the International Business Times: After initially announcing the launch of a "downvoting" feature in July, Twitter revealed on Wednesday that it would be taking the feature to the global testing stage, even as questions remain about whether a more positive or negative environment is fostered on the platform as a result. The company announced that the "downvotes" will expand to more people on iOS and Android devices, and reiterated that the votes are not public, but can help the company determine what type of content different people actually wish to see.

"We learned a lot about the types of replies you don't find relevant and we're expanding this test — more of you on web and soon iOS and Android will have the option to use reply downvoting.

"Downvotes aren't public, but they'll help inform us of the content people want to see...".


Twitter has not yet announced when the "downvote" feature will be rolled out to all users, or if it ever will be. While the test should help the company figure out if the downvote option promotes a more hateful environment or fosters a better experience, their final decision is yet to be revealed.

The Washington Post includes a screenshot of the downvoting button, describing it as a small arrow to the right of the like button.
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Twitter Announces It Will Expand (Non-Public) Downvoting

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  • by GimpOnTheGo ( 6567570 ) on Saturday February 05, 2022 @04:46PM (#62241107)

    Just like Slashdot, the CCP shill downvotes against anything anti CCP will come flooding in to Twitter.

    • Yes. I am especially excited about expanding the tech censorship from politically motivated employees to mobs of bots and die hard faithful actors who couldn't even spell policy let alone describe the positive or negative ramifications of it.

      This will be a good day in the effots of free speech. Advancing from more and better speech to counter bad speech will now be reduced to clicking a button to burry the content so deep nobody will ever see it. Think of all the effort it takes to copy paste canned replie

      • by Anonymous Coward

        At least 1990s spell checkers would catch spelling efforts and bury incorrectly. Slightly ironic in a post where you complain about people not being able to spell policy correctly.

        I didn't mod down your comment because I think all opinions are valid, not just the ones I agree with. I think Twitter would need to tweak their mod mechanisms to achieve the same thing.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    I’ve found that up/down voting is usually abused, regardless of implementation. Given this is on Twitter, it’ll make it even more of a shitshow.
    • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Saturday February 05, 2022 @05:02PM (#62241145) Homepage Journal

      The problem is that an up or down vote doesn't cost you anything. You don't have to think about downvoting or upvoting someone you can do it as much as you like without consequences.

      At the very least the number of votes you get to cast should be limited, particularly down votes. Another thing is that if you show a pattern of frequent downvoting you should be given fewer downvotes, or maybe pay some kind of reputational backsplash where your posts are unfavored.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        An up or down vote indicates interaction. The voter cared enough about the post to tap that icon.

        Twitter wants to identify engaging posts, even if the engagement is that people don't like them. As long as they stay on the site or in the app, Twitter is happy.

        • by hey! ( 33014 )

          That is true; the system isn't there to benefit *users*.

          • Unlike Slash dot, both totals should be shown.

            An article with +20 - 22 is quite different than one with just -2. The first is controversial, and so probably interesting, the latter a boring troll.

            This also stops Chinese trolls down voting things they disagree with to make them disappear.

        • I need to mark it on the calendar, we agree about something. If anything I expect twitter will specifically want to keep people seeing things they hate because outrage porn is a fantastic way to short circuit people's thinking.

    • Will end up turning Twitter into yet another echo chamber, because people downvote anything that goes against their belief system (however absurd that belief system may be), and never because the comment is actually something offensive.
      • Considering YouTube just said they did away with downvotes because of the bad behavior and mental anguish it was supposedly inflicting, I can only imagine what it will be like on Twitter where people already have meltdowns on a regular basis. You already know someone at Buzzfeed has already started writing their article and is just waiting to pencil in the names.
    • by Comboman ( 895500 ) on Saturday February 05, 2022 @10:31PM (#62241763)

      The user moderation on Slashdot works very well, probably because the users given mod points are extremely intelligent (especially the ones with mod points today).

  • "Irony." - Unlixghost.
  • Down-votes should be visible, that's usually both the most insightful and the most ridiculous can be found.

  • ... promotes a more hateful environment or fosters a better experience, ...

    I imagine, on some platforms, those aren't mutually exclusive.

  • the votes are not public

    In other words, when the content is the sort Twitter wants, they will ignore the downvotes or deem them illegitimate. When it's content Twitter wants to censor, they'll do nothing to stand in the way of the outrage mob and you'll see a "Our community has found this post unhelpful" popup when you try to view your post, if anything. It's already how 'reporting' posts works but this adds another tool.

    It's much like how if a cop wants to pull you over, he can follow you around and wait for a violation. With an

  • Ironically YouTube recently has hidden downvotes, which were a useful metric to determine if a video had the content it claimed to (as compared to popular following, entertaining, funny, other spurious upvote reasons), now Twitter is bringing in downvotes...

    • Youtube down votes were being abused by people who didn't like the subject of the content. For instance, every Forbes snippet of a speech by a president was getting tons of downvotes because of the person speaking. This came to be a really noticeable issue when Joe Biden became president. A lot of people were using it as a protest against him. The dislikes were outweighing the likes by 10 or 20 times.

      • People use up/downvotes in a different fashion for tutorials, artistic contents, and opinion/politics. The root of the problems is to believe a single platform with uniform rules should host all of that.

        They should make different sub-platforms and different rules, so that youtube users who just want to listen to music or learn arts and crafts don't have to deal with all the shitty atmosphere of the politics platform. They don't because it makes them look less consistent and maybe does not maximize their rev

  • Twitter is not an online community, it's an arena, and a new game has been added to compete in. The side that can most bloody its opponent wins.

  • Hide those download counts lest people find out how bad Rewind was. Also, there's so much garbage populist crap on FB and TW that I don't see how downvotes by yet more of the same morons who reshare white nationalist hate and conspiracy theories should be listened to. If sane people who can be promoted to moderators were possible, then it might make sense. Overall, popularity contests serve no purpose because the haters, Kremlin boiler rooms, and bots will brigade.

  • A bonanza for click-farmers!
  • Twitter explained, they are testing this to understand the kind of replies you find relevant in convo, so as to work on ways to show more of them. Twitter added that downvotes are not public, while upvotes will be shown as likes. According to Twitter Safety, they shared information on why people clicked the downvote arrow, stating that most users found the reply in question offensive, irrelevant or both. This platform claims downvoting will help to customize one’s timeline and avoid showing similar c
    • You have a bike. One of the wheels comes off. Should you keep riding it, or just forget about the stupid bike?

        You have a voting system. The downvotes falls off. Should you keep trying to use that system, or just ditch it in it's entirity?

  • Being able to downvote was and will be abused by people. This was done by Hillary Clinton and her actblue minions during the 2016 election in notable online forums including reddit's r/politics. What's worse is the fact that they really didn't hide the fact and reddit administration failed to hold her or her campaign accountable.

    If you dared to counter the prevailing liberal opinion you'd be instantly downvoted 100 points in a flash as the hired boiler room lackeys spotted your post. And, because you recei

  • Twitter removes downvotes. And twitter creates and even bigger clusterfuck.

    They lost me after "no public downvotes".

    Tire falls off of car while in motion, more damage to follow.

  • With that said, it's time to get rid of the polling system altogether.

    Imagine going to a voting place and there is only one choice. You can chose not to vote of course. But the shitfall would be extreme.

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