Windows 8 Metro Theme Created For Rooted Android Tablets 116
MikeatWired writes "Now here's a cool one for you tablet users that like to tweak the appearance of your UI! XDA member BroBot175 has created a Metro UI theme for all tablets running Honeycomb or ICS! The theme is a fully functioning replica of Windows 8 that allows you to create your own tiles, and organize them however you want."
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Microsoft will probably not like this one bit.
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Indeed. They'll say "People actually want to copy Metro?"
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shhhh.... it's a move to confuse microsoft so they don't notice when we make the windows 8 tablets dual boot ICS
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That's kinda not the point, a theme is a theme, you can make it look like anything, it's still Android underneath. The draw was the unified UI on both the Tablet and Desktop version of Windows 8, and beyond just appearance. It's kinda retarded when you think of it, it's like when people though skinning KDE/Gnome to look like OS X magically made it OS X.
Microsoft's war horse is that it's Windows through and through, on any device, on any architecture. It's nor iOS -> OS X, or Android Linux, but precisely
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I know you're joking (at least trying to) but well that's the question I also have. But then on a more serious note.
A problem that I see with iOS vs Android is, for as far as I have played with iOS, the basic UI is the same. No significant difference. Less difference than between OS-X and Windows even. It's basically iOS and Android all along, and with major brands like Samsung doing their best to look as much like iOS as they can get away with (including the design of the hardware) the real amount of choic
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This video shows exactly my problem with the latest Ubuntu interface, Unity. I'm sure it's nice on touch screens or on small screens like netbooks, but it sucks on even my small-for-today's-measures 15" monitor. Small and big screens need different way of doing stuff.
The difference is that Unity is navigable, it didn't made me lose my way by hiding all those important controls, just was very irritating to deal with. Everything full screen, only most-used icons visible and the rest hidden, etc.
But then I was
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They will love it. It familiarizes android user with Win8 environment and eventually some of the users will prefer to use the real thing.
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Except, that's not how it works. The only people who like the horrible UI mess that is Metro is the true believers. The Yesmen that would be happy with a brick with "Turn Over!" written on both sides, but only if it was a new game from Microsoft.
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Except, that's not how it works. The only people who like the horrible UI mess that is Metro is the true believers. The Yesmen that would be happy with a brick with "Turn Over!" written on both sides, but only if it was a new game from Microsoft.
Why is Metro a "Horrible UI mess"? I see this posted a lot of places and have yet to see someone come back with something that doesn't boil down to "it's not my flavor".
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As a tablet or smartphone UI, actually it's pretty good. I still prefer Android, but I can understand why people would like Metro. A lot of the texting, e-mail, etc. widgets that people use on Android would not be necessary on Metro, because of the way it presents the tile for an app. (basically, no icons, everything is a widget).
As a desktop UI, you have to ask what the hell they were smoking. Something designed for touchscreen input on a 4" device does *not* scale to a 24" screen with a keyboard/mouse. While it's usable, it would be very counter-productive to anybody who's comfortable with the mouse, because they would have to scroll through pages of tiles to find the one they want. I don't think it's going to be the unmitigated disaster that everybody says it's going to be, but I do think that "how to turn Metro off" will replace porn as the number 1 Google search for a while after it launches.
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And what is the advantage of the start-button to metro. i have window 8 running on a laptop and i see(if i see it at all) as a glorified start menue. since the tiles are self actualizing it might also make a good screen saver. One advantage of metro is the availability of web apps and a centralized store. there are many js libraries that dont have a comparable .net equivalent (invoviz...). if you don't like it hit the windows key and poof gone.
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There was an article that was showing the Metro UI after a number of apps were installed. It started to become quite a mess. The Start menu was a bit easier to deal with for me, particularly since you could just start typing in what you wanted and Win7 would get you pertinent results.
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The Start menu was a bit easier to deal with for me, particularly since you could just start typing in what you wanted and Win7 would get you pertinent results.
The "start typing to search" feature is still there in Metro (indeed, it is the only way to use it efficiently to wade through all the non-Metro apps). The main annoyance with it compared to Start menu is that Metro is fullscreen, which is rather distracting when all you want is to launch an app.
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IMHO, Microsoft would have been smart to make Metro Desktop a small series of "tiles" along the bottom (top/side, whatever) of the screen instead of directly scaling it up to full screen. You can still have your weather app and whatnot in a small tile along the edge of the screen and when you click on one of the tiles, it expands it to full screen pushing the other tiles to the edge. You could even provide a virtual hover button in the top right that allows a person to maximize/minimize the tile like Wind
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I think a) The desktop start button must be reinstated. Something that is discoverable and people can click on. Shoving the mouse into a corner and clicking is not discoverable b) Metro should appear as an overlay over the desktop, not a seperate screen. Of if it is a different screen at least give it some context back to the desktop such showing scaled windows
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As a tablet or smartphone UI, actually it's pretty good. I still prefer Android, but I can understand why people would like Metro. A lot of the texting, e-mail, etc. widgets that people use on Android would not be necessary on Metro, because of the way it presents the tile for an app. (basically, no icons, everything is a widget).
As a desktop UI, you have to ask what the hell they were smoking. Something designed for touchscreen input on a 4" device does *not* scale to a 24" screen with a keyboard/mouse. While it's usable, it would be very counter-productive to anybody who's comfortable with the mouse, because they would have to scroll through pages of tiles to find the one they want. I don't think it's going to be the unmitigated disaster that everybody says it's going to be, but I do think that "how to turn Metro off" will replace porn as the number 1 Google search for a while after it launches.
While I agree that contextually it doesn't work well with a mouse, on something like this [hp.com] it does make some sense. Perhaps someone at Microsoft thinks the mouse is a dead end UI wise?
This could be something that points to the fact that they think that Surface [microsoft.com] will start to make some inroads at some point as well. Metro makes some sense for it in the same manner it does for the HP piece above, and all the tablet stuff.
This then introduces the idea that Microsoft is embracing the tablet as the desktop
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Having enough top-level options that you have to scroll through them to find the one you want is bad no matter the form factor. While I don't know if
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The UI of the few Metro apps I could bring myself to try in the Developer Preview in VirtualBox (I couldn't get Consumer Preview to even consistently boot there so I pretty much stopped trying Windows 8 at that point 'cause it was clear MS was slipping hard) is simply less functional and intuitive than that of the usual windowed ones.
It's harder to know how other apps ("Classic" or not) are running because the Metro ones are generally fullscreen (as are many pre-Metro games, but that's expected and usually
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Metro is a mess because its nothing but widgets called "Tiles" and hyped as something groundbreaking and special. It sucked back when Sony Ericsson did it on the SE X1 mobile phone, and it sucks just as much now that Microsoft "borrowed" it.
I could drill down into specifics, but why would i do that? Its not like there aren't more than enough people inside Microsoft that hates the UI and has long lists of things they think should be changed.
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Metro is a mess because its nothing but widgets called "Tiles" and hyped as something groundbreaking and special. It sucked back when Sony Ericsson did it on the SE X1 mobile phone, and it sucks just as much now that Microsoft "borrowed" it.
I could drill down into specifics, but why would i do that? Its not like there aren't more than enough people inside Microsoft that hates the UI and has long lists of things they think should be changed.
So in your opinion, it doesn't work anywhere, or just not for the desktop?
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I'm not at all an MS fan, but Metro seems to be a good direction in UIs, and not just for mobile devices. The pile-of-papers metaphor of traditional windowing UIs is really a horrible mess when you think about it, and recent trend in adding 3D and transparency features to it doesn't really address the problem.
The Metro approach is an approach that really has a lot going for it. I'm not saying the implementation is necessarily
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Maybe this is part of Microsoft's marketing strategy. You know, keeping the image fresh in people's mind, normalizing everyone to the concept of Metro.
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There is a launcher [google.com] for Android phones that mimics WP7 (Metro) UI. It's been out there for over a year now, and it's still up.
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I don't see why we couldn't have both. How convenient would it be to have a single line text box to dump commands into in the task tray?
I'm thinking something like Lotus HAL [chicagotribune.com] could work really well for beginners and advanced users alike.
Who cares? (Score:3, Interesting)
Win 8 is a non-event, except insofar as MS is continuing to demonstrate bad engineering and bad design. Why people get riled up over this continuation of past behavior is beyond me.
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I agree on the difficulty level. This is different to be different, not to be better. That nobody else has done it (and there are a lot of different window-managers on Unix and Linux and I bet you could even configure some to replicate Metro pretty accurately, no programming involved) is not due to any technological challenge, but just due to the insight that this design is stupid for a desktop system.
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That you don't even have to use Metro?
Win8 boots right into Metro, if you like it or not. So yes, you have to use it.
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I've been using Windows 8 as my primary desktop operating system for the past few weeks. You can pretty much avoid Metro after logging in, just hit WINKEY + D to take yourself to the desktop. From there it's pretty much Windows 7 with better multi-monitor support.
There's a handful of areas where it could be more polished, but you can't complain about them in the context (preview release).
You can't avoid seeing Metro entirely, but it's not something you have to work with. In Windows 7, if I have to launch so
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In Windows 7, if I have to launch something that's not pinned to my taskbar my workflow is WINKEY + Type the program name + ENTER. Windows 8 preserves this workflow. You'll be typing the program name into a Metro search bar, but at the end of the day the same program starts up on the Windows 8 desktop.
That's true, but I don't remember all the names of all programs I have installed, only the ones I use often enough. In W7 I didn't even need to remember those - they are on the quick launch bar or as shortcuts to the desktop. Moreover, some programs install multiple apps, whose name I don't even know to begin with - the app folder in the start menu lets me see what those are.
Altogether the start button is very useful to me: it's the place where I find all the programs, including newly installed one
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Cool? (Score:5, Insightful)
"Now here's a cool one
Mimicking Windows is cool? Not from where I'm sitting.
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Ah... this is just a theme? What an outrage!!
What problem does this solve? (Score:5, Insightful)
This whole tile madness is driven by commercial reasons. Since MS can't make a phone to be as capable as the desktop, they want to dumb the desktop down to the level of the phone. Then, they think, if everyone is trained to love the bomb ^W the Metro interface there will be more software for Windows phones, and more money for MS.
A tile (as shown) is nothing but a small application window that can't be arbitrarily resized, and that has no Z ordering. The demo on the linked page is totally confusing - my Galaxy Tab has exactly the same stock configuration of installed applications; the only difference is that all application icons are of the same size (so more fit on each screen.) I'm not sure what was gained by doing this.
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Metro to me seems idiotic but the one thing that is very noticeable is that whoever drew its design has no love for full color drawing, it is very monochromatic if such a thing exist in color. White icons/text on single color boxes. All very stark and (to my eye) unclear. Mind you, with a lot of icon based interfaces (android, iOS and some PC setups) unclear icons can be just as confusing. As near as I can figure this is politicians logic. Something must be done, this is something, therefor it must be done.
Unclear sea of icons is confusing and something must be done, metro is something, therefor it will fix everything.
It is a new shiny, therefor it is the second coming. Until the next one.
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Rather than being active as they are in WP7/WP8, the tiles here are just shortcuts. That essentially makes this a metro-looking Android launcher, which isn't really exciting, nor front page-worthy.
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it's not missing the point, it's metro style. you're missing the point. look at the screenshots. clearly there is live content in several of the tiles.
animations and active tiles are a late addition to metro anyways, they had to think of something. but they couldn't just make them fully customizable widgets oh no... because having more functionality wouldn't be innovative(the hacky approaches needed to make nice looking custom livetiles for wp is just.. well, teh suck still).
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animations and active tiles are a late addition to metro anyways
Actually, no, it's not - it's been there since WP7 (where Metro first appeared), and has always been the cornerstone of this design.
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I'm afraid that it's you that's missed the point, check out the video [youtube.com]. Watching it, it's pretty clear that the tiles are active.
Android has had 'active' widget/launchers for years, so I agree this skinning (like Metro itself) is not particularly exciting
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Why?
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It could have been worse - it could have been a copy of the (ironically titled) Unity interface from Ubuntu.
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Unity is actually quite nice on a mobile phone. Its on a Desktop it sucks. The same cant be said about Metro because that baby sucks anywhere.
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Did you actually use Metro on a mobile phone?
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http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android [ubuntu.com]
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The last thing in the world i would want on any phone is Metro. To be frank, it sucks. The UI is clunky, unusable, inflexible and really just a try in making something diffrerent, not better.
The nerd in me says, cool a testament of just how flexible Android is, but why the worst UI in the world?
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You are a fool if you think UI experts have anything to say about how Windows is designed. Metro was stolen off of the Sony Ericsson X1 that was essentially Metro ontop of Windows Mobile 6.5. It is in no way, shape or form created by UI designers. And if you look at Windows 8 its utterly apparent that no UI designer has had any input whatsoever there.
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Judging from the high return rate of WP7 phones and their abysmal sales, im not at all alone in thinking it sucks. Seems impossible to sell them even at a loss like Nokia is doing right now.
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Judging from the high return rate of WP7 phones and their abysmal sales, im not at all alone in thinking it sucks. Seems impossible to sell them even at a loss like Nokia is doing right now.
That probably has more to do with mediocre hardware and very limited selection in the app store (which itself is because the SDK is managed code only, and hence does not let you port code from any other mobile platform).
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It would be nice if Microsoft released those stats to dispel the "myth". But alas, its not myths but the sad truth.
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If you talk about Gnome, it has gone to hell lately. Mostly because they took a small-screen touch based interface and tried to meld it onto a desktop. Its as stupid as taking Metro and cramming it ontop of Windows7. Oh wait...Windows 8 right?
KDE is doing very fine on the other hand, as is LXDE, XFCE and many others that has gotten an influx of activity now that Gnome hit the wall.
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You mean fool or tool
Making Android look like Windoof is about as "cool" as sprinkling dry dogshit on your cappuccino.
Next we show you how to make your Ferrari look like a Hyundai. Oh. wow.
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Making Android look like Windoof is about as "cool" as sprinkling dry dogshit on your cappuccino.
Darn right, everyone knows it's better with the fresh stuff.
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> Making Android look like Windoof is about as "cool" as sprinkling dry dogshit on your cappuccino.
Ok, I got nuthin.
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Now why on earth would I want my perfectly fine android tablet look like a POS?
Of course you'd want to make it look like a point of sale terminal if you're going to accept payments using it [squareup.com].
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Has no-one seen Launcher 7. Metro launcher with active tiles capable of holding applications and widgets.
Been using it a few days now without any issues. 4/5
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.tikuwarez.launcher3&hl=en
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So why do you need to root a device to use this?
To recover the multimegabytes of space occupied by applications that are not handling an intent. A lot of phones sold in the United States come with trialware that companies pay carriers to install in such a way that they cannot be uninstalled.
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Celebrations in Seattle tonight? (Score:1)
WTF are you taking your Android backwards? (Score:1)
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This is some definition of "cool"... (Score:2)
Let me know when they have Windows 3.1 on Android (Score:2)
I really miss that interface.
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