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Google Calendar 448

rickyb writes "After months of rumors and speculation, Google Calendar is now live. It features integration with Gmail, full iCal support, and a bunch of other goodies I'm just starting to discover. The wait is over!"
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  • by Adult film producer ( 866485 ) <van@i2pmail.org> on Thursday April 13, 2006 @07:56AM (#15119875)
    I logged on this morning and created a new calendar, made a few screenshots here [flickr.com]. Looks nice, didn't see much in the way of gmail integration but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.
  • by disserto ( 817046 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @07:59AM (#15119883)
    WTF? Is that possible? Did a traveling salesman just try to cross the road to change a lightbulb?!
  • iCal compatible (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dave1212 ( 652688 ) * on Thursday April 13, 2006 @07:59AM (#15119884) Homepage
    Nice, you can subscribe to your calendar in iCal, and it imports iCal files. Doesn't seem to have a limit on the number of calendars you can have at once, but I may just be overlooking something.

    Hope it works in Safari soon. It doesn't even load unless I use Firefox.
  • News Flash (Score:4, Funny)

    by Fiachra06 ( 945611 ) * on Thursday April 13, 2006 @07:59AM (#15119885) Journal
    "Google awarded patent on time." It was really only a matter of google!
  • erm,

    http://calendar.yahoo.com/ [yahoo.com]

    There is really something "cheesy" with these Google fans... OK ending paranoia mode.
    • Yes, I've been waiting for this too.
      Yahoo Calendar (IMHO) has been the only remotely decent web-based calendar. Until now.

      I've been dying to close my Yahoo account since they rolled over for the justice department. It didn't surprise me when MSN handed over confidential information because they want to keep on the Justice departments good side but when I heard Yahoo complied with the clearly illegal request, I was very disappointed.

    • by KrugalSausage ( 822589 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:23AM (#15120270)
      Are you serious?

      The yahoo interface doesn't even compete with google's.

      First there are no hotkeys, and to add an event, you specificially have to click on the number/date (waste of time).

      e.g. In the month view, do you like having to click the number 13 to add an event (mind you that a new page loads) or do you like clicking anywhere inside the box, and having an instant prompt, as in google's?

      I could go on and on...

      Now, I do agree that there has been a lot of 'fanboyisms' with google here on slashdot, but you really picked a bad example by bringing up yahoo calendar.

    • by shokk ( 187512 ) <ernieoporto AT yahoo DOT com> on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:32AM (#15120339) Homepage Journal
      I'll wait for SyncML support. I need this to work with my Treo, so it's Yahoo and Intellisync for now. Plus Yahoo has that cool Day Planner widget to go with it. But given RSS output, any RSS reader will be able to act as a day planner, and there is an RSS Yahoo widget.
  • How is it integrated with gmail? By the link in the top left corner? I cant find that it is integrated so nice right now.....
  • 'Full iCal support' (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mac123 ( 25118 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:01AM (#15119899)
    To me, full iCal support would typically mean the ability to publish to google calendar directly from my iCal compatible program, not export each calendar entry and import them.

    Full 'read only' iCal support would seem a more apt description.
    • by generic-man ( 33649 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:22AM (#15119995) Homepage Journal
      iCal doesn't support two-way syncing by itself (i.e. without iSync). You can either publish a calendar to the web or subscribe to a calendar from the web. Unless you have two records for every calendar for which you want two-way sync, I haven't found an elegant solution that lets you both modify a calendar on your local computer and on the web.

      Yahoo! Calendar offered IntelliSync six years ago to synchronize my PalmPilot with their on-line calendar, but that software ended up duplicating every event on my PalmPilot.
    • So we can import our calendar to their web app, but not actually view it on the acutal web?

      OK - it's actually Safari "sorta" - here's the notice you get:

      "Sorry, Google Calendar does not support your browser yet, so things may break in unexpected ways. Press OK to see a list of browsers that we support. Or cancel to try to use it anyways." (sic)

      Just to be on the safe side I'll wait until they fix it so it breaks in expected ways.
  • Quick report so far (Score:5, Interesting)

    by lennart78 ( 515598 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:02AM (#15119907)
    I have been nosing around in it for a few hours now. The main thing that I still miss is the ability to sync with a PDA, but I'm sure that will be hacked into the app. at some point. Furthermore:
    * The user interface is pleasant, at least far more pleasant than any other web-based calendar I worked with before.
    * The abilty to search for and import iCal calendars is very nice.
    * You can manage multiple calendars from you account
    * Sharing calendars with other users seems to work nicely

    All in all, a decent start...
  • My first thought are that obviously there are some Apple fans working at Google. Still they've done a good job. Now if you could just schedule meetings in Gmail and it would be a useful enterpise calendar.
  • Wikipedia (Score:3, Funny)

    by omeg ( 907329 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:06AM (#15119923)
    Let's see how fast the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] will grow now that it has been released...
  • by tont0r ( 868535 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:09AM (#15119944)
    If it were Google Calendar and not Google Calendar Beta.
  • Annoyance (Score:5, Interesting)

    by barcodez ( 580516 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:10AM (#15119946)
    I wish there was a way (maybe there is but I can't find it) to specify which Google applications you want to be automatically logged into. In my case I never want to be logged into the feature that remembers my searches, I find that feature disturbing. However if I log into Calendar or Gmail or Personal Homepage it starts remembering all my searches again until I log out and then I have to log in again when I use gmail or whatever. So I just don't use any of the features right now because it's too irritating.
  • I am using Firefox to access and it is terribly slow. Also if you click a time slot you get a pop up for a new item, I think. However, I am not getting a clear display. Images seem missing or somehting. Maybe this should be Alpha not beta
  • HTTPS available (Score:5, Informative)

    by palad1 ( 571416 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:21AM (#15119989)
    for all of you behind a firewall. Be warned though, https://www.google.com/calendar/render [google.com] sometimes redirects to http://www.google.com/calendar/render [google.com] when your session has timed-out. Is there a FF extension that could rewrite urls and force https://www.google.com/calender [google.com] to be used? Cheers, Palad1 ps: this thing does seem to grok webdav, I'll check tonight with iCal
  • HTTPS issues (Score:5, Interesting)

    by tyroneking ( 258793 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:22AM (#15119991)
    I know I'm being picky, but why does the Gmail link in the calendar page goto the http Gmail site and not the Https version? In fact Google Talk does that too.
    Even Yahoo secure email with https by default.
  • by scrm ( 185355 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:27AM (#15120014) Homepage
    ...Here [pcworld.com].


    Google Calendar has been pretty slow for me this morning, and not all options are always saving correctly, but I guess it will take them a few more days to iron out the bugs and get used to the user load. Seriously neat is the ability to quickly add an entry by typing 'dinner with Chris next Thursday 5pm'.

    I don't see any Gmail integration yet, like the ability to identify mails that mention appointments and ask you if you'd like them put into the calendar. But it's mentioned on the features page [google.com] so I'm sure it will be there soon.

  • Sorry, Google Calendar does not support your browser yet.

    Why don't they support Mozilla and Firefox yet? That should be their top-level priority, and MSIE second. Sigh.

  • by pinky99 ( 741036 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:35AM (#15120048)
    Anybody else likes Googles "private" calendar link feature? It's a link with a hash part, which enables someone access to the calendar without any username or password. Google says, that "you should not give away" that link. But that concept at all is complete crazyness!
    • by Tom ( 822 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:26AM (#15120284) Homepage Journal
      Not really. If it's a good hash, then it's just as if not more secure than a username/password combo. From a security POV, there's no difference between

      http://blabla.com?user=dummy&pass=dumbone [blabla.com]

      and

      http://blablab.com?hash=3ebf71dc0135c7927da8fc55a2 fbe782 [blablab.com]

      So that's not the point. And don't say anything about POST, please, POST is not any more secure than GET, the only people it hides anything from are the dumber half of the AOL users.

      • > Not really. If it's a good hash, then it's just as if not more secure than a username/password combo

        I agree, but it would have been trivial to do what Gmail does for _its_ ATOM feed - require HTTP authentication over SSL. Many RSS readers added decent HTTPS+auth support simply because Gmail required it. There's no reason why Calendar feed consuming software wouldn't have done the same.

        Google Calendar's private feed will be an easy target for anyone with access to proxy logs (for example, anytime you us
      • Except for the obvious thing that anything in the URL (read, anything sent via GET) appears in the server logs and client history. Server logs probably aren't that big of a deal because they're (hopefully, at least) just about as secure as the database. However client history is another story all together.

        Enter SSL. Now, not only are the above two things considerations, but add to it the fact that (unless I'm mistaken) anything POSTed is sent encrypted while anything encoded in the URL (eg, GET) is sent in
  • Looks just like the "My Account" screen to me?

    Guess they're probably still recovering from the Slashdot effect
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    Q
  • by parascott ( 962903 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:41AM (#15120078)
    Hi! I'm from Google!
    We'd like some more personal information about yourself
    and your associates and your company and your business transactions
    and your...........

    Just enter everything for us here and here and.....

    Remember: We fight evil.........

    They're right you know.......
  • by minkie ( 814488 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:41AM (#15120079)

    They already know about everything I search for. If I let them, they would also know about every usenet article I read, and have all my email too, but I'm not willing to give them that. And now, I can add to the list of things I could let them know about me who I have appointments to see, and when. Sure, why not? Perhaps next we'll be seeing Google Bank, Google Dating Service, Google Medical Records, Google Credit History, Google TV, Google Phone Company? All services supplied for free, just let them own everything there is to know about you.

    • by caffeination ( 947825 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:17AM (#15120247)
      That's like being scared that Domino's knows what pizza you like. How do you expect them to know when and what to deliver to you unless you call them and give them the information? It's fairly important for them to pay attention to the terms people use, just as Domino's has to be aware of what pizzas are popular.

      The alternative is that after you type in the terms, they return a page saying "Lalalalala we're not listening! We care about our users' privacy!" Instead, the choice of whether or not to make the information exchange is left to the individual.

    • Google Credit History

      Oh, yeah, because the current holders of my credit history are really trustworthy. They don't sell my data, and they're so helpful when they screw something up!

      On an actually related note, I logged in and tried it out, and I really, really like it. The interface is extremely easy to use and everything flows very well. I didn't have a problem with responsiveness when I tried, either. I especially love the quick add function. It handles multi-day events just fine (Vacation X through
  • Planzo (Score:2, Informative)

    by juko ( 968041 )
    http://www.planzo.com/ [planzo.com] works well enough for me.
  • by JTFritz ( 15573 ) <jeffreytfritzNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:46AM (#15120101) Homepage Journal
    I have exported from Outlook a CSV of my appointments and imported them into Google Calendar and all of my appointments have been shifted 3 or 4 hours ahead. I am in the Eastern Timezone, and I'm assuming this is a timezone conversion issue.

    Anyone else have a similar problem?

  • Firefox Extension (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Gigadafud ( 413848 )
    Someones need to create the Firefox extension to show when I have events now just like the GMail notifier.

  • by foolish_to_be_here ( 802344 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @08:54AM (#15120139)
    Someone has to bring this up. Do you really want the Justice Department getting court orders from Google to hand over everyones calendars so they can go on another fishing trip? Or, just think of the data mining potential for Advertisers. They are probably really wetting their chops on this one. Use a DavMod calendar on a descrete server. Other wise you are just asking for trouble.
    • by caffeination ( 947825 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:23AM (#15120272)
      Or maybe you're asking not to be a lonely paranoid recluse.

      It's a social calendar: You put some stuff up, make it viewable to your friends, then check their calendar to see when they get out of class so you can call them.

      The internet isn't the place to be plotting your coup d'etat anyway.

    • "Someone has to bring this up. Do you really want the Justice Department getting court orders from Google to hand over everyones calendars so they can go on another fishing trip? Or, just think of the data mining potential for Advertisers. They are probably really wetting their chops on this one. Use a DavMod calendar on a descrete server. Other wise you are just asking for trouble."

      Well I dun wanna do that because Google says they do no evil. That's right, I'm gonna stand here grabbing my ankles waving my
  • True Colors (Score:3, Insightful)

    by acvh ( 120205 ) <geek.mscigars@com> on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:06AM (#15120188) Homepage
    "We look at the rise of China, the investment and the smart people and we are in awe of what has occurred here," Schmidt said.


    "And we salute the government, key leaders in the industry and all of you who have made the rise of the Internet in China such a tremendous accomplishment."


    No more google for me.

  • by KrugalSausage ( 822589 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:13AM (#15120212)
    I think that most slashdotters love hotkeys, so here ya go:

    Some Google Calendar hot keys:

    a - Agenda view

    c - Create event

    d - Day view

    j and k - forward and back on days/weeks/months

    n and p - next and previous, same as j/k

    m - month view

    q - quick create event, can add date and time and info and it will be added accordingly. I particularly like how it doesn't force the calendar view to focus on the new event. (e.g. april 14 breakfast at tiffanys 03:00)

    s - calendar settings

    x - 'next four days' view

    / and ? - both highlight the search input field, but add a / or ? to the beginning

    (on a side note, is there a hotkey for firefox that automatically highlights the input field on a viewed page?)

  • Here comes the mode down for not being a Google fanboy but ... after transferring my calendar events over to GC, I'm pretty unimpressed by GC when compared to Planzo. For instance I found the following issues:

    1) On 12/24 I made an event that stretches out over to 2am on Christmas morning. I then added an all day event for Xmas Day and the display overlayed on top of the 2 day event making the previous event unreadable.

    2) I can enter descriptions for events, but clicking the event, clicking on the ti
  • "Breakfast at Tiffany's next Thursday" put an event for April 20 - but untimed - guess we'll have to meet at the IHOP next to Tiffany's - they have breakfast all day...

    Of course the intermediate error message I got was worthy of the first chapter of Mostly Harmless:

    TypeError - Undefined value - undefined['r','__4','ZTNmZjc5MXN1NGRtNWxwOGc3ajg3d WoybDQganBlbGxpbm9AZ21haWwuY29t'],['a','ZTNmZjc5MX N1NGRtNWxwOGc3ajg3dWoybDQganBlbGxpbm9AZ21haWwuY29t ','breakfast at tiffany\047s','20060420','20060421','anBlbGxpbm
  • Why isn't Verizon Wireless part of the phone notification system on Google Calendar?

    Or is this addressed in a FAQ and I was too lazy to go look for it?
  • Tag level sharing (Score:4, Interesting)

    by revery ( 456516 ) * <charles@NoSpam.cac2.net> on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:25AM (#15120280) Homepage
    The one thing that I really, really like about 30boxes is that you can set tags on events and specify permission to people at the tag level. If Google implemented this feature, I'd seriously consider switching to it. Interface-wise, I think they have 30boxes beat (at least, day view, month view,etc)

    Just my 2 cents...

  • This has the potential to be snakes-on-a-plane cool.

    I have recently been becoming more dependant on Yahoo! Calendar and, in so doing, it's limitations are becoming more glaring and more annoying. This forces me to consider changing to some other calendaring software/thngie, but I really don't want my calendar/thingie to be tied to just one comptuer (hence Yahoo!). Google cal is iCal compliant, or so they say, and I don't think Yahoo! Calendar is. Or, if it is, I somehow missed it. (which is possible)
  • by retrosteve ( 77918 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:31AM (#15120333) Homepage Journal
    First thing I missed, which will make it impossible to import existing calendars:

    * No to-do's. All events must have a start and end time.

    Anyone else want to add a wish?
  • I mean, this is really a basic calendar application. Why not even let the person set a country or location so that local holidays would show up in the calendar?

    Schedule and calendar applications are a dime a dozen. Heck, anybody with at least a year of programming skills can write their own appointment manager, I have. It does everything I want it to do, without superfluous extras, and if I want it to do something more, I can write my own support for it.

    If this is what we can expect from Google, time man
  • by LordJezo ( 596587 ) on Thursday April 13, 2006 @09:51AM (#15120499)
    Anyone?

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