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Google Calendar Coming Soon? 313

mcpastore writes "Blogs have recently been buzzing over the possibility of seeing a Google Calendar popping up soon. Dave bases his prediction on the fact that one of his sites has been getting a tremendous amount of hits from GoogleBot ever since he added the iCal calendar. It makes perfect sense Google would try to go after the calendar market as it is their last big missing piece of the portal puzzle."
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  • by moofdaddy ( 570503 ) * on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:41PM (#11830158) Homepage
    A google calendar would be nice but I don't know if this guys predictions amounts to anything more then just hearsay. I run a couple of websites and the stat bump that he is basing a lot of his predictions on is probably just because he got a bump in his overall pagerank or perhapse google did a deeper index. The way they work when they index you is they do a initial surface sweep and then come back a few weeks later and hit you for a lot more.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:50PM (#11830240)
      Yeah, this sounds just about as trustworthy as all those predictions that Google would soon be offering VOIP. Remember that? We're still waiting...

      I prefer to go crazy over the products *after* Google has released them. Mmmmm, google maps... *drools*

      • by V4Victory ( 860739 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @11:26PM (#11830793)
        I would love to see Google go after the weather market. Weather Channel's site is terrible and hasn't changed 5 years.
        It won't even automatically bring up the weather for your area in less than 1 click. Google seems to be well positioned to corner this market as well.
        • by Kozz ( 7764 )

          Then try this [noaa.gov]. Assuming you're in the US, it's got good data. Sure, not as feature-rich as weather channel's site, but has the info you need.

        • by trentfoley ( 226635 ) on Thursday March 03, 2005 @12:57AM (#11831300) Homepage Journal
          Google doing weather the Google way? I can see it now...

          It is a cold, dreary, Midwest morning. I'm driving to a client site through refrozen snow slush. I realize that my thermostat is set way too low and numbly turn it up to 80F. Suddenly, my car navigation system starts giving me strange directions, which of course, I obey. Ten hours later I realize I'm in Florida. ...I could live with that.
        • by mrchaotica ( 681592 ) on Thursday March 03, 2005 @02:37AM (#11831738)
          To me, weather info is the kind of thing I like to have around all the time, so I use the WeatherFox Firefox extension.
        • by adolf ( 21054 ) * <flodadolf@gmail.com> on Thursday March 03, 2005 @04:33AM (#11832065) Journal
          Not to sound like spam, but:

          The Weather Channel has never had a useful web site. It has always been an epitome of anything which can be annoying, insipid, and featureless, consisting of little but regurgitated and labotomized government weather data and the occasional and blatant attempt to extort money from users. (At one time, they wanted paid for the singular effort of delivering storm alerts to my pager. By e-mail. Absurd.)

          Back In The Day, before the rest of the world had heard much about this whole InterWeb thing, the University of Michigan started giving away weather information online. It seemed to grew in the altruistic sort of way that many things seemed to back then, steadily aquiring new features and formats for no apparant reason except that it was possible to do so.

          That started 15 years ago [google.com].

          Today, following the general trend, the efforts are commercialized (read: the staff needed to eat and pay rent), but quite clearly live on at The Weather Underground [wunderground.com].

          Sure, there's ads. But there's a wealth of good information, a feeling of completeness, and a general lack of bullshit and dumbness which is so sorely lacking with things like weather.com. A subscription to toss the ads and enable a couple of different features is a miniscule $5/year, which I've been happily paying for the last several years.

          The information there is continuously improving. For example, they've been putting a lot of effort into their detailed radar presentations over the past year, which has really made a difference in seeing what's about to go on outside.

          I like Google and the effort they put into user interfaces, simplicity, and completeness (except for when they most recently fucked up groups.google.com), but given the efforts of wunderground, I really don't care if Google ever gets into the weather business.

          [ObDisclaimer: I didn't attend UMich, I don't even think I know anyone who has, and I definately have no interest in boosting wunderground traffic except, perhaps, to help people stay informed.]

          • ... in my web browser using Forecast Fox [mozdev.org].

            And I wouldn't exactly say that weather.com is "useless". I can visit the site and it tells me what the forecast for taday, tonight, and tomorrow is. For me, that is typically enough. (And a weekend or 10-day forecast is one-click away too.)

            Of course, if I am feeling frisky and want to look at nifty Java apps for radar data, I'll visit IntelliCast [intellicast.com] or some other site.

            Again, for me, seeing the weather for today and tomorrow in my status bar is all the functionality
    • by pivo ( 11957 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:31PM (#11830469)
      Could be a coincidence, but I just noiticed today that Googlebot has been hammering the calendar section of a site I run, but not the rest of the site.
    • A google calendar would be nice but I don't know if this guys predictions amounts to anything more then just hearsay.

      Well, the writeup does say it was "blogs" referring to this. It's obviously not even worth considering.

    • Web calendars suck - it's Thursday the 3rd of March where I live...what day is it for you? Still the 2nd? ummmmmm

      Sync with mine when the computer clocks aren't even on the same day? I don't think so. And don't tell me it's just a matter of checking...
      As an example, Palm tried this and failed. For good reason.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:41PM (#11830159)
    I hear Google plans to add a day to the weekend, and add two months to the year. It's about time someone with a plan rewrote the calendar.
  • Too much Google? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ph34r_Hk ( 770765 )
    It seems like Google is trying to control every aspect of the internet/computer... Does anyone think that they are trying to do too much?
    • Greetings (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Hello, I'm Googlebot.

      I recently discovered your post criticizing Google on Slashdot, and I am here to help you. You are now banned from the internet. Thank you for your past usage, and we hope to welcome you back in the future when you've accepted Google into your life.
    • no.

      but go ahead and tell us how not every problem can be fixed by a govt program or a commercial product.
    • by derrith ( 600195 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:44PM (#11830190)

      Too Much Google? When I googled google on the state of the google in google, I found that google is googling googlers about the emergence of google as a new paradigm in google's google of googles. This googles google on the google of google, by google. for google, with googles googling googles googled.

        1. Too Much Google? When I googled google on the state of the google in google, I found that google is googling googlers about the emergence of google as a new paradigm in google's google of googles. This googles google on the google of google, by google. for google, with googles googling googles googled.

        Say smurf and I'll smack you.

      • You sound like a Yahoo.
    • by puiahappy ( 855662 )
      NO ! I think that google is just starting to grow and still have a long way to walk, just think about Yahoo how many features they have ...
    • I really dont see this as a bad thing. Google is a good company. I like google and gmail its hot. Sp34k l33t
    • by idlemachine ( 732136 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:11PM (#11830365)
      It seems like Google is trying to control every aspect of the internet/computer.

      By providing people with free tools that they can choose not to use if they don't want them?

      That doesn't really fit with any definition of "control" that I'm familiar with.

    • Re:Too much Google? (Score:2, Interesting)

      by SpookyFish ( 195418 )
      Hm, no, not really. They already have gmail, and calendering is already tied into mail all over the place.

      Calendar doesn't surprise me a bit, nor will a follow-up that blends them tightly with an offering for (also common) small-business internal messaging packages.

      Google's whole thing has been to take supposedly "tired" technologies and, oh god, "embrace and extend" them. So long as they keep doing it better (and without Microsoft's evilness), that's ok.
      • Re:Too much Google? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by slashrogue ( 775436 )
        I'm still waiting for a google homepage where I can log in and check my gmail, post to my blogspot blog, check my orkut account, etc. all with one login and hopefully a nice UI like we've come to expect from google. All this other stuff is nice but I want it all in one place.
    • No, not if your plan is to be bought out by MS and get stinking rich.

  • ...they could integrate it with gmail?
  • Ads (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fembots ( 753724 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:43PM (#11830177) Homepage
    So when your, or someone else's birthday's coming, you might see more gift-related ads?
    • Re:Ads (Score:3, Funny)

      ... you might see more gift-related ads?

      Sort of... I think you accidently left a "might" in there. And I'm not sure about the "gift-related" part either.

  • I don't buy it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by moofdaddy ( 570503 ) * on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:44PM (#11830183) Homepage
    A calendar seems pretty clearly not to be in google's long term strategy. Everything they do they do because they can using their searching technology to make the way things are done even better. Be it email with searches, almost all the projects in google labs, etc. Search functions don't really fit all that well into a calendar, at least nothing that is goign to be improved by their algorithms.

    Second the whole calendar thing has been kind of done to death already. Outlook does a pretty decent job on the PC and iCal does an amazing job on the mac. When Google moved into email they did so because the current web based emails sucked, there was major room for imporvement. There really ins't much else you can do with the calendar.

    In the end it really just doesn't make sense.
    • Re:I don't buy it (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Statecraftsman ( 718862 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:52PM (#11830249) Homepage
      I disagree with the idea that there's not much more to be done with calendars. If they could just port over that scrolling effect of maps to multiple calendar day views I'd use it...they can even keep it beta forever, I don't mind.

      One of the main benefits of their apps is that they are accessible from anywhere...only a modest improvement is needed to make people switch and they are clearly trying to innovate.

    • Re:I don't buy it (Score:5, Insightful)

      by galaga79 ( 307346 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:52PM (#11830256) Homepage
      Second the whole calendar thing has been kind of done to death already. Outlook does a pretty decent job on the PC and iCal does an amazing job on the mac.

      If Google did produce a web based calendar service, it would augment the capabilites of iCal on the Mac not replace it. As far as I am aware iCal lets you upload your calendars to the web, and view them online but I don't think you can change them online. If Google Calendar existed then you could update your calendar using just a web browser, and then keep it up to date on your desktop using an iCal remote subscription.

      The whole iCal file format is very cool, and no where used to its full potential. Sunbird uses it too.
      • I think it's a good idea for them to come up with more web based apps. My mail following me around anywhere I have internet access is something I like (no need to lug around laptop with outlook or whatever).

        In fact, I already have my own little webmail page on my little server (and tons more features), but I'd really like it if there was some easy (open source?) calendaring web app like that to complement the setup (not that I really searched hard, and making a basic one would be pretty trivial...)
    • Re:I don't buy it (Score:4, Insightful)

      by supmylO ( 773375 ) <bjarosz&gmail,com> on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:54PM (#11830265)
      I don't know if I buy the whole "there really isn't much else you can do with the calendar" thing. Looking back on what google has done for searching and web based e-mail it seems so OBVIOUS there was major room to improve, but no one had done it. These guys see things in a different way and make improvements that no one else saw before them. Sure, nothing you can imagine can be added to a calendar, but I'm not so sure that they can't think something up.
    • neither outlook or ical are really web based, though? it would make sense if they made it to be a web enabled calendar.

      however.. i think this guys reasoning is bogus, just because he gets more hits from googlebot doesn't mean zilch. but a calendar add-on to gmail would fit in very well.

      seriously though, google has no long term strategy. if you look at them as whole you'd see it. they're just another company now looking for a buck, do evil or not.
      • Re:I don't buy it (Score:3, Informative)

        by SirGeek ( 120712 )
        neither outlook or ical are really web based, though? it would make sense if they made it to be a web enabled calendar.

        There IS a web based version of Outlook. It requres your site to run IIS on their mail server. It uses the same username/password as the mail server uses for outlook.

    • I buy it. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Chuck Chunder ( 21021 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:57PM (#11830285) Homepage Journal
      I'm sure search can be applied to calendar entries.

      "Going to Movies" - Pimp some movies.
      "Tax due" - Pimp some tax services.
      "Pay off credit card" - Pimp a credit card
      "Johns Birthday" - Pimp some gift ideas

      Just like gmail and adsense, calendar advertising could be used to help supply adverts targeted to something that someone is specifically interested in. Calendars might even be better than email as they will probably be more focused and less noisy than email conversations.
    • Re:I don't buy it (Score:4, Insightful)

      by larkost ( 79011 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:57PM (#11830288)
      I think there is some real room for Google to offer a new service, or rather to provide a high-profile better-interfaced offering just like they did with gmail. Namely I could see them offering WebDAV-based iCal (the format) hosting with a web interface. That way people using Apple's iCal and Mozilla's calendaring applications would have a place to publish their calendars to...

      Apple does this with .Mac, so there is precedent, but there is a lot of room for improvements. And google can be a lot higher profile than .Mac. And with iCal rumored to have bi-directional syncing in 10.4 and Sunbird's ability to do some of that, the time is just about ripe for this type of service.

      There is the little problem of how to make it pay for itself, but google seems to be very creative about how to use this sort of information for marketing purposes, and if they allowed people to link in commercial calendars (for example your favorite TV programs new shows, or the local rock climbing club, etc...) I could see this being a very viable advertising targeting tool.
    • Re:I don't buy it (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Elwood P Dowd ( 16933 ) <judgmentalist@gmail.com> on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:01PM (#11830309) Journal
      Are you kidding? Outlook does a poor job on the PC, and iCal does a passing job on the Mac, but neither of them sync with each other and neither of them are web based. Hell, you should be able to syndicate a calendar with RSS feeds.

      If their calendar works as well as iCal, but brings it to the rest of the planet, that would be a complete coup.

      I hope you're trolling. Sure, I don't see that it's the most groundbreaking thing Google will ever do, but you're crazy if you don't think they have a team or three working on calendar solutions. They have a lot of people.
      • Re:I don't buy it (Score:4, Informative)

        by netik ( 141046 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @11:19PM (#11830747) Homepage
        You should.

        The real killer app here is one that fixes all of the synchronization issues between these disparate formats (say, with SyncML) and then uses some sort of social networking system (like tribe or myspace) to tie it all together.

        Companies had a first shot at this (WHEN.COM for example) but blew it because they went after profits instead of real innovation (or in when's case, got bought out by AOL.)
      • Re:I don't buy it (Score:3, Informative)

        by anderiv ( 176875 )
        Are you kidding? Outlook does a poor job on the PC

        Are you kidding? Sure, it seems like Outlook-bashing is a fun thing to do, but lets be honest here. Perhaps the *only* reason outlook/exchange is entrenched in corporate IT is because of their superior calendaring.

        ...and neither of them are web based.

        Have you heard of Outlook Web Access? Sure, you need IE to get the most out of it, but barring that requirement, it's the single best web calendar I've seen to date.
    • by xixax ( 44677 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @11:18PM (#11830741)
      Everything they do they do because they can using their searching technology to make the way things are done even better.

      There's heaps that Google could do with calendars.

      For some time now I have been thinking how cool it would be to integrate text, spatial and temporal searching. For example, "tell me when any of my favourite musicians will be performing within a 2 hour drive of my current location" or "I will be visiting these cities on these dates, tell me about these sorts of events occuring while I am there". Google is rapidly building up enough data to let people add time and space dimensions to their searches.

      Xix.
    • Re:I don't buy it (Score:3, Interesting)

      by ozmanjusri ( 601766 )
      There really ins't much else you can do with the calendar.

      There may not be much more that you can do with a calendar, but there are plenty of us out here who'd like a lot more. A calendar which indexed all events in an area and made them available for searches like

      "On Wednesday night I want a Korean barbecue meal at starting at 7:30, followed by [name of movie], then live funk music until 1am, then tapas bar for an hour or two, then karaoke till dawn and catch a train home when everyone else is going
  • by Icarus1919 ( 802533 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:44PM (#11830186)
    I love Google as much as the next person; I use it almost exclusively to search for pages. However, it seems to me some fanboys won't be happy until we're eating Google brand noodles out of Googlebrand dishware wearing Google brand clothing and then we buy Google brand detergent to get the Googdles stain off of my new Google shirt.
  • A Reflection (Score:2, Interesting)

    When Yahoo and Excite tried to do this years ago everyone made fun of them. Now it seems that if google does it - its cool - Google can do no wrong. I love Gmail and good...dont get me wrong.

    The good thing is that as good as added tons of new stuff over years the front page has not been jammed full of adds and paid links.
  • by mblase ( 200735 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:47PM (#11830216)
    Assuming Google is developing a kind of search tool to index and organize all the public internet calendars in the world, who would want to use it?

    I mean, say I load it up and search for "March 3, 2005". I'll probably get a couple of obscure religious and national holidays, then a few zillion pages of entries like "Math class @ 10:00 AM" and "Meeting with union 3-4PM" and "Don't forget the recycling bin!"

    Well, that was useful. Nice to know how many people with calendaring software have math classes this morning; I'd never have found it if it weren't for you, Google!
    • You make a good point, but don't forget that Google has Orkut, too. If there was a way to leverage your social network to determine which calendars are actually relevant to you -- well, that could be pretty sweet!
  • Could be useful (Score:5, Insightful)

    by teslatug ( 543527 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:48PM (#11830222)
    It'd be nice if they really integrated it into gmail. Yahoo already has such a feature [yahoo.com], and it's not horrible, but I'm sure gCal could be much better.
    • but I'm sure gCal could be much better.

      gCal? hold on, that name is so formulaic is might already exist...

      BINGO!: "Gcal [gnu.org] is a program for calculating and printing calendar" from none other than GNU!

      I was hoping it would be a GNOME/GTK Calendar, but whatever...

      • > I was hoping it would be a GNOME/GTK Calendar

        Evolution [gnome.org] has a nice calendar interface, and the API [gnome.org] is pretty good, too.

        I'm working on a Ruby binding [rubyforge.org] for it and it's straightforward as long as you're familiar with the Gnome coding conventions.
  • I'd pay for this (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Azureflare ( 645778 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:52PM (#11830250)
    I use gmail via the webclient all the time now, and I really want a calendar to be integrated with it so I can access all my important times/dates/todos in one place anywhere I am, not just at home. My Corp has outlook webmail but I HATE HATE HATE the user interface. Gmail has probably the best interface I've ever used, and if they added a calendar to that...

    I'd be willing to pay money for that.

    • Re:I'd pay for this (Score:2, Informative)

      by Yankel ( 770174 )
      And I'm sure many corporations would as well -- as long as there's some form of security behind it.

      Adding a calendar (and maybe tasks) to Gmail would put it over the top as a replacement service alternative to in-house exchange servers. However, the service would also need to:
      - sync with a PDA
      - export groups of messages to a common format for archiving (I could fill a gigabyte of mail in three months at work)
      - allow some sort of calendar sharing based on personal and group-set permissions -- so I would kno
  • WHOIS doesn't show gcal.com or gcalendar.com registered to Google, yet. And at least one is owned by a fairly legitimate business. The other is oddly FUBARed.

    And yeah, I'd love it if all meshed seamlessly into SunBird [mozilla.org], Gmail, and iCal.

  • by ballwall ( 629887 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:56PM (#11830282)
    My guess is they want to search events. It would be cool to google "concerts in denver" at calendar.google.com and get something meaningful back. It's all about searching, and storing your events in google doesn't really accomplish anything.

    Makes much more sense for them to add the time element to searches, not a calendar function similar to Outlook or Lotus Notes.

  • Er, no, not really (Score:5, Informative)

    by Scott Laird ( 2043 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @09:59PM (#11830298) Homepage

    While Google may or may not be working on a calendar, his "evidence" is lacking. Basically, he's saying that Google is walking his calendar a lot, and using that as evidence that Google is building itself a calendar. There's a much simpler explanation: Google goes nuts when it runs into PHP iCalendar [sourceforge.net]. It sees every link as a new page to look at, and after a few runs by googlebot, it's trying to index the daily calendar page for every day within a decade of today. I've been dealing with this today, adding robots.txt entries to keep it away from PHP iCalendar, because Googlebot is generating thousands of hits per day on my little site.

    So, just because Googlebot and PHP iCalendar don't get along, that doesn't mean that Google is busy building up a monster searchable calendar.

    Having said that, I'd love to see a gmail calendar component that you could access via WebDAV. I don't see how they'd make money on it, though.

  • fucking blogs... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by RaZ0r ( 145723 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:00PM (#11830305) Homepage
    Come on, just because one guy noticed some GoogleBot activity on his site doesn't tell us squat about Google's future plans.

    This is getting almost as bad as Mac Rumors!

    Why is it that we never hear about rumors that prove to be false?

    (back to my hole I call a server-room)
  • by kevin_conaway ( 585204 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:03PM (#11830323) Homepage
    Anyone notice how people follow Google now like die-hard mac heads follow Apple?

    If there is even the slightest whiff of a new feature, the Internet explodes with every forum discussing the possibilities of "what could be."

    I don't have a point, I just found it interesting :)
  • by Blowfishie ( 677313 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:05PM (#11830337)
    Calendar web pages are a tricky problem for search engines because they usually have links in them to navigate forward/back a month or to view a particular day in more detail. Navigating in this way can look like a lot of different pages if the parameters are passed in a URL because the pages are dynamically generated ad-infinitum. The poor search engine will recursively rip through each month of the year until some subroutine in the search engine decides that the page has had enough and then it will do it all over again the next time it indexes the site.

    I wrote a PHP calendar page three years ago and it had so many hits from recursive links that I had to put an entry in the 'robots.txt' file to stop it. Looking at my logs, it had scanned every month for about 20 years in the past and 20 years in the future.

    • If Google did do a calendar, then I'm betting they would use an XMLHttpRequest object to go forward/backward through the months and days. Which means their search algorithm probably would work off of a flat version -- either through a robots.txt type guide or maybe a custom backend search.

      Just speculation, of course....
  • by GundyRage ( 611514 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:09PM (#11830359)
    We run a college LUG web site ( here [uvlug.org] ) and noticed that both Google and MSN had bots that appeared to be "stuck" in the calender (iCal) section of our site. We added entries to our robots.txt to keep them out of there. That cut down on server traffic almost instantly and what appeared to be regular crawling resumed.

    If both Google and MSN did it, it makes me wonder if this guy is a little trigger happy with his predictions. We didn't really even have any content in the calender area so I can't figure out why they would keep crawling all these empty pages.

    Who Knows? - G
  • I've been saying this for weeks now. Actually, ever since the first time I said, "Wow, I love g-mail, I wish I could use it for work."

    If Google has calendaring and mail, with interfaces that are both simple and intuitive (obviously a strength of Google) then they can bundle that with their Enterprise search functionality and have a heck of a package.

    They can sell it service-based like Microsoft dreams about, or they can ship it out on the little yellow boxes. Users are freed from installation hassles, and in the subscription package, IT departments from management hassles.

    It seems like the next logical step to me.

    -Zipwow
    • by zipwow ( 1695 )
      As a followup, the integration can be very smooth between the different parts. In addition to formal "meeting requests", I believe Google can use their prodigious NL parsing tech to interpret "Tomorrow at 3" or "every wednesday" and give the user the option of updating their calendar.

      I know I already want it.

      -Zipwow
    • Depends on the business. For most non-mission critical types of businesses and small businesses, then sure, google enterprise package would be great. But for the big companies and industries such as health care, then redundant email systems are very important (and critical) -- if part of the internet is down and I can't access sites west of the mississippi, then hopefully there's an accessible server on the east side of the mississippi that I can reach. Can anyone tell me with authority how redundant google
  • by gregorious ( 449337 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:13PM (#11830371) Journal
    GoogleCal, Sunbird or any other calendar must syncronize with PDAs, cellphones, iPods, ... to be more than yet another groupware programming exercise. Would not going below the desktop be new ambitiously new territory for Google? The time to enter that wild territory is ripe.
  • Two things... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Sheepdot ( 211478 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:13PM (#11830372) Journal
    It makes perfect sense Google would try to go after the calendar market as it is their last big missing piece of the portal puzzle.

    This is simply not true. There are an unlimited number of things they could implement. IMHO, perhaps the biggest "missing piece" is an IRC search, of which they were rumored to be creating, but then the buzz died off. However with the success of sites like isoHunt and Packetnews (even with all its friggen ads) Google is missing out on probably a quarter of the searches I do while online.

    Second, it's a wellknown fact that the more often your website is updated, the more often that Google checks it. If he recently added a CMS, blog, or iCal, then it is likely Google is just coming back because he's updating a whole lot more.
  • Could the increase in traffic as a result of the addition of a calendar feature to his site simply be that the calendar he added is a search engine spider trap that the spider takes some time to dig its way out of? Calendars are potentially infinite sources of links, since their next/previous day/week/month links could go on forever.

    Or am I incorrect in my understanding of what a spider trap is?
  • Will it get a 22 year old college student laid [jwz.org] like Hula [hula-project.org]?
  • by Spoing ( 152917 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:25PM (#11830431) Homepage
    I'd like to see the vendors PICK ONE PROTOCOL/FORMAT and USE IT. So far, iCal has the best coverage, though it's not universal and can have problems between implementations.

    (Current problem: Syncing calendars in Lotus Notes and Niku Clarity or Openworkbench. An iCal extention is available for Notes ($900 for 75 licences), but AFAICT none for Clarity or Openworkbench.)

  • by Snommis ( 861843 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:34PM (#11830489) Homepage
    ...the Google CLOCK! WAY better than a standard clock. Skinnable hands and face, choose analog or digital interface, tells the time anywhere in the world (even where you are). Integrates smoothly into your Google calendar and toolbar.
  • WTF (Score:4, Insightful)

    by adeydas ( 837049 ) <adeydas AT inbox DOT com> on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:37PM (#11830507) Homepage Journal
    "Dave bases his prediction on the fact that one of his sites has been getting a tremendous amount of hits from GoogleBot ever since he added the iCal calendar."

    Why is that? Can't Google just install its own iCal and test it out?! Besides, even if it wants to see how many people are using Calendars on their websites, isn't indexing them once is enough?!
  • They need to target Loutus Notes and Outlook by offering the ablity to share calender events and send calendar details via gmail. This would blow yahoo and hotmail out of the water. Right now the hotmail and yahoo calendars are only useful to the one user.
  • by SilentJ_PDX ( 559136 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:43PM (#11830529) Homepage
    Imagine the targeted links they'll put on calendar entries for your mother's birthday [1800flowers.com], your quarterly performance review [speedstick.com] and a blind date [trojancondoms.com]...

    I can't wait.
  • Lamity (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Woodblock ( 22276 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:45PM (#11830541) Homepage
    Since when is a handful of bloggers saying "Wouldn't it be cool if..." news?

    Wouldn't it be cool if blogging crashed like the dot-com boom? Just think:
    • we'd be free of such english language monstrosities as "blogosphere"
    • 15 year old nerds would be far more productive
    • we wouldn't have to read the same tired, uninformed navel gazing presented as valuable contributions to human knowledge
  • I predict that Google will soon come out with a TV show or a novel or something crazy like that.

    And you know what the saddest thing is? I would use it! happily! Gotta have respect for a company that sets a goal at e-billion dollars: http://battellemedia.com/archives/000630.php/ [battellemedia.com]
  • Ever since the demise of Anyday [archive.org], my first start-up, I've been pretty happy with Yahoo's calendar -- but I've also come to realize that there's not much money in online calendaring.
  • I've noticed similar (Score:3, Interesting)

    by biftek ( 145375 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @11:33PM (#11830834)
    About a week ago I put up a new link to a random timetabling iCal outputting python script.

    I was quite surprised at how quickly googlebot started looking at it - a lot more than other pages, and without many links at all. Whether it's related to a hypothetical gCalendar I don't know - perhaps they just know that calendars might update regularly?

  • by Duncan3 ( 10537 ) on Thursday March 03, 2005 @01:58AM (#11831571) Homepage
    It's about time someome did this so the whole world can see when I'm out of town and my stuff is just sitting around waiting to be stolen ;)

    Err....
  • by Fragmented_Datagram ( 233743 ) on Thursday March 03, 2005 @02:01AM (#11831590) Homepage
    First, download Mozilla Calendar [mozilla.org]

    Next, configure Apache 2 to use WebDAV to access the calendar from anywhere. Uncomment these lines in httpd.conf:

    [IfModule mod_dav_fs.c]
    DAVLockDB /var/lib/dav/lockdb
    [/IfModule]

    Make sure /var/lib/dav and /var/lib/dav/lockdb exist and have read/write by the Apache user.

    Add the following lines to httpd.conf:

    [Directory "/www/mydomain/ical/"]
    DAV On
    [/Directory]

    In Calendar, create a new calendar file, and point the Remote Server URL to:

    http://mydomain.com/ical/foo.ics

    Replace mydomain, the path, and the calendar file name with your
    values. Check the "Automatically publish your changes..." checkbox.

    Now you can access your calendar from anywhere.

  • by NoMercy ( 105420 ) on Thursday March 03, 2005 @07:11AM (#11832348)
    With a lot more development, it could turn into a decent program, having it work out of the box and intergrate with all the commercial systems out there would be a killer feature for it though.

    Google... the only calendar I can see them keeping is a public events calendar, who wants to put in 'Appointment with dentist' and have an advert pop up next to it 'Low cost dental insurance' :/
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, 2005 @08:13AM (#11832576)
    I post this anonymously, even though I'm under no NDA with anyone, however I'm close to some sources, and here's what will happen:

    Google will build in an additional level of links, with added intelligence, on top of normal web pages. Say you're browsing a conference web site, an the programme says: "11:00-12:00: Mr X - An analysis of Karma Whoring". The google toolbar will figure out the correct date, time and subject, and allow you to click on this "virtual" link and have it added to your calendar - even (and this is the kicker) if the web site wasn't designed for this - google will figure it out. As far a I understand this idea has been patented and the patent was bought by google.

    Feel free to shoot me down as an anonymous liar karma whore, but we'll see who's right!
    (yes I know ACs don't get karma)..
  • I've noticed a huge increase in GoogleBot hits to my underage beastial gay midget porn section of my site. This leads me to believe that Google will soon be offering underage beastial gay midget porn. They'll probably call it Goopsyourarrested.com or something.

    [ Disclaimer: No. Just... No. You sicko. Jeez. How2ReadAJoke ]

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