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Somewhat below the posted legal speed limit
  688 votes / 2%
Approximately the speed limit, but no big deal
  5271 votes / 19%
Exactly the speed limit, within my ability
  2322 votes / 8%
Somewhat faster than the posted legal limit
  14364 votes / 51%
Your puny list cannot contain my complex answer!
  5058 votes / 18%
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  • not fair (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 13, 2011 @07:45PM (#34870528)

    I drive a milk float you insensitive clod!

  • 5 Over (Score:3, Interesting)

    by skine (1524819) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @07:46PM (#34870536)

    Now, would 5mph over the speed limit be approximately the speed limit or somewhat faster than the posted legal limit? Or would this be exactly the speed limit, given that it's common for people to go 5 over?

    • Here in Colorado the threshold for points is five or more miles per hour over the posted speed limit. Points are one of those gifts that keeps on giving since having points on your driving record probably means higher insurance premiums.

      Besides, the speed limit on the interstates here is 75 out on the plains. Going less than 5 over still means I'm cruising at just under 80 and I don't have to be paranoid that I'll get a ticket. That makes the journey a lot more pleasant. State highways the limit is usual

    • Most speedometers I've seen read a little on the low side (as measured by GPS devices).

      Which is why I like to drive around ten over, because it's really five to eight over.

      And for those freaking out about speed what I DON'T like to do is weave in an out of traffic. I like to move about five MPH faster than general traffic but will hang at traffic speed for a while until it's clear and safe to go faster.

    • Re:5 Over (Score:5, Interesting)

      by arivanov (12034) on Friday January 14, 2011 @03:51AM (#34874782) Homepage

      5 over on the speedo at 70 mph as the speed limit is in the UK is actually around 71 on most cars. The calibration tolerance of the speedo in Europe is defined legally as -7% to 0%+. However as a device it is subject to the usual Gaussian spread of equally under and over. As a result the manufacturers calibrate it to around -3 to -4%. As a result 70 on the speedo is usually around 67. These can be easily verified using GPS. Out of 3 cars in my household one is at -4, one at around -3 and one is at -1%.

      As far as the "answer list", the last option is spot on. For me it is:

      1. If I am travelling on a trip I have organised myself in speed camera countries - UK,NL,Austria - speed limit on the speedo which means -3% off the speed limit. Ditto for countries where cops make a living from soliciting money from speeding drivers (BG, most of ex-Ugo, rest of Eastern Europe).

      2. If I am travelling in a country which could not care less as long as you pay your road tax (CZ,SL,Hu), has gotten bored of chasing German drivers which think that Autobahn means no speed limit everywhere and has no cops anywhere on the highways it is +10% on top of what the speedo shows.

      3. If I am travelling on a trip organised by my "better half" which means that we have started anything between 1h and 2h late (compared to what I would have done) it means as much as the car can deliver before the passengers get scared sh**less...

      • Re:5 Over (Score:4, Informative)

        by michelcolman (1208008) on Friday January 14, 2011 @07:19AM (#34875696)
        The discrepancy is even intentional on many cars. I usually drive 160 km/h on cruise control, which corresponds to 156 on the GPS. But when I look at the average speed on the car's trip computer, it DOES give the correct value of 156. So the car does know the correct speed and deliberately adds a few km/h to the indicated current speed.
  • by gman003 (1693318) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @07:49PM (#34870582)
    My rule of thumb is to match the speed of other drivers, but never be the fastest driver visible. That way, if a cop does decide to pull someone over, it's unlikely to be me. It also gives the benefit of being safer - if I were to actually go at the posted speed limit, I'd be hit by all the people trying to pass me.
    • by bakes (87194)

      Most people have this same mentality, however if 'other drivers' were also driving at the posted limit, then there wouldn't be people trying to pass you.

      We need to find The First Other Driver, the one who started driving a bit faster than the limit, and made everyone else speed up to match him. Take that guy off the road and we'll all be safe.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by mug funky (910186)

        that's kinda the wrong conclusion. the first driver will be anyone that increased speed for any number of reasons, often just for a second.

        it's not like one career crim is inducing everyone to break the law. it could be a wind change pushed someone over, or a slow driver moved over, or somebody went to overtake because the car in front was belching black smoke, or any number of things.

        road psychology is complicated. on a perfectly smooth freeway with light to medium traffic, try using cruise control and

        • by bakes (87194)

          it could be a wind change pushed someone over, or a slow driver moved over, or somebody went to overtake because the car in front was belching black smoke, or any number of things

          Correct, however these are all transient conditions and most drivers will resume their preferred speed after that immediate issue has been resolved. The real issue is that getting people to choose to travel at or below the speed limit is challenging, for some reason many drivers think the posted speed limit is always too low.

          Road psychology certainly is very complicated, made more difficult due to many people's normal behaviour changing when they get behind a wheel.

    • by chaffed (672859) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @08:15PM (#34871056) Homepage

      That's a fine thing to do. However, please do the following if you are going to go with the traffic flow.

      • Be mindful of your fellow drivers blind spots. Do not drive for any length of time where they cannot see you.
      • Please stay to the right (in the US). Allow others to easily pass you.
      • by sayfawa (1099071)
        Why is this modded funny? It's sound advice. Am I missing something? If you're going to go average speed, stay out of the left lane, unless you're passing someone going below average. And as for blind spots; anyone who doesn't know that rule shouldn't be highway driving.

        Also, don't drive at the same speed as the car next to you. Either pass them and get in front of them, or slow down and get behind them.
      • Be mindful of your fellow drivers blind spots. Do not drive for any length of time where they cannot see you.

        Actually, blind spots needn't be so large nor so prevalent:

        http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Rearview-Mirrors-to-Eliminate-Blind-Spots [wikihow.com]

        Now if only North Americans would learn about car mirrors what Europeans have known for decades...

      • My biggest pet peeve is people that insist on being beside you. You can slow down or speed up, but they seem to match your speed every time.
    • Yup, us drivers have boids flocking algorithm in-built.
      • by gman003 (1693318) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @08:23PM (#34871202)
        I actually noticed something rather interesting like that a few weeks ago. It was snowing, pretty hard for my area. Ice everywhere, generally just nasty conditions. I think I fishtailed five times on that drive.

        Anyways, there was one major road where something interesting happened. It was a one-way, three-lane road, but everybody was driving as if it were two extra-wide lanes. I don't know how it started. I don't know how it kept going. If someone were to drive as if it were a three-lane road, it would cause an accident within seconds; yet still, everyone continued using two "lanes". There was ZERO communication going on, yet somehow people managed to figure out what to do for maximum safety.

        For a while, I've thought about writing about that, examining the psychology of "silent democracy", but I never did, until now. It might be an interesting study.
        • by bar-agent (698856)

          Anyways, there was one major road where something interesting happened. It was a one-way, three-lane road, but everybody was driving as if it were two extra-wide lanes. I don't know how it started. I don't know how it kept going. If someone were to drive as if it were a three-lane road, it would cause an accident within seconds; yet still, everyone continued using two "lanes". There was ZERO communication going on, yet somehow people managed to figure out what to do for maximum safety.

          This happens in Seattl

        • by BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) on Friday January 14, 2011 @01:18PM (#34879780) Homepage Journal
          That same phenomenon happens on the I-80 pass in California every time it snows. The major California-Nevada freeway goes from a 3 lane to a 2 lane to a 1 lane depending on the time of day and how heavy the snow is. I think it can be attributed entirely to most drivers not wanting to get themselves or anyone else killed.
        • by ShakaUVM (157947)

          >>For a while, I've thought about writing about that, examining the psychology of "silent democracy", but I never did, until now. It might be an interesting study.

          I think it's more a matter that citizens actually know what the safest driving pattern is, and fall into it. On a 2-lane residential road, with rows of parked cars on each side, people will naturally drive down the centre of the road (you can see for a mile down the road so there's no danger of head-on collisions), because lots of kids and s

    • My rule of thumb is to match the speed of other drivers, but never be the fastest driver visible. That way, if a cop does decide to pull someone over, it's unlikely to be me.

      Cop: Sir, you were above the speed limit, I'll have to give you a ticket for ...

      You: But, but ... why did you not catch that guy?

      Cop: Darn too fast for us, sir.

      Just sayin ...

      • by Tackhead (54550)

        Cop: Sir, you were above the speed limit, I'll have to give you a ticket for ...
        You: But, but ... why did you not catch that guy?
        Cop: Darn too fast for us, sir.

        Driver: Why'd you pull me over? I'm just going up to the lake to go fishing.

        Cop: When you go fishing, do you try to all the fish?

        I had to admit, the guy had a point.

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward

          Cop: When you go fishing, do you try to all the fish?

          No, but I think he accidentally the fish

    • I think this is a bit of a cop out answer. During Rush hour, you practically have no choice BUT to do whatever everyone else is doing.

      Suppose you are on the highway and there is no one else around? I believe that is the spirit of the question.

  • by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland AT yahoo DOT com> on Thursday January 13, 2011 @07:54PM (#34870690) Homepage Journal

    drive faster then I can see..besides, it's all in the reflexes.

  • by Osgeld (1900440) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @08:03PM (#34870864)

    I had a crapton of tickets a few years back, and it was not helping my finances

    now I just let everyone else blow past me, like from a light (im not going to stop them doing 60 in a 45) or on the interstate (its rather funny to watch them all clump together and change lanes in front of each other etc while I am behind them with a wide open road for a half mile ahead)

    • by potat0man (724766) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @10:21PM (#34872688)
      Hear hear! I was a speed demon when I was 16, then went off to college and didn't ride in a car for almost two years. As soon as I had to start driving again I was amazed at how fast it felt like I was going.

      Now I just sit in the right lane, puffing my cigar, enjoying the sights at 55mph and feel sorry for all those stressed out people going 90mph who must be slaves to someone else's schedule forcing them to fly through the world rather than enjoy it.
      • by sayfawa (1099071)
        Yeah, not being a regular driver can really put a different perspective on things. Sometimes, when I am driving, I realize how much I'm speeding and I make a point to do three things:
        1. calculate how little time I'm actually saving by speeding.
        2. realize that I'm not in a hurry anyway.
        3. enjoy whatever album I'm playing on the stereo.
    • by jamesh (87723)

      Nice to see the system working :)

      I don't give a crap if 'everyone else' is doing 10kph over the speed limit. I set my speed limiter to the speed limit and the car just won't go past it (except for down steep hills of course). 5kph over the speed limit makes more difference than most people realise, and i'm simply not going to do it, and i'm certainly not going to use all the other cars on the road as an excuse.

      It's funny though... some days everyone is sailing past me. Some days i'm sailing past everyone el

  • 88 mph (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 13, 2011 @08:04PM (#34870876)

    And if I could get the flux capacitor working, I'd have the first post.

  • If you want to legally exceed the current speed limits, then there is a simple answer: Become a political organiser in your local area and elect politicians who will remove the current speed limits. Otherwise, the choices are: a. abide by the rules, and b. exceed the speed limits and then DO NOT COMPLAIN about any speeding fines or other consequences.
    • by Pfhorrest (545131) on Friday January 14, 2011 @04:06AM (#34874854) Homepage Journal

      Just being unable to change a bad law does not remove one's right to complain about suffering its consequences.

      • by raddan (519638) *
        You have the right to complain, sure. First Amendment and stuff. But it doesn't exempt you from sounding like a jerk. You'd have an uphill battle trying to convince me that speed limits are "bad" laws.
        • by Pfhorrest (545131)

          I'm talking more than just First Amendment stuff. What I mean is: just because something is against the law doesn't make it wrong, and just because some subset of the population gets their laws passed doesn't mean that the rest of the population should shut up and deal with it. Not only shouldn't you be punished for complaining about it (free speech), but more so, your complains might have legitimacy: the law as it stands is not necessarily perfect, it may have been better in some ways before and it may be

    • by MrMacman2u (831102) on Friday January 14, 2011 @11:53AM (#34878454) Journal

      If you want to "legally" exceed the speed limit, become a police officer. I regularly have them blow past me on the road at 20+ mph over the limit. No lights, no siren, just motoring along toward a donut shop.

      Yet, I've never seen a police office pulled over by another and receiving a ticket.

      So, logic dictates that it's legal for the law enforcement to break the law whenever it so suits them.

  • ... it's not just a good idea. It's the law.
  • Your puny list can contain my complex answer but you are too lazy to add it.

    Nice try.

  • 30 limit, probably just under 30.
    50 limit, 55-60 unless it's in roadworks.
    70 limit, you might as well take the mirrors off...

  • Much faster? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by mosb1000 (710161) <mosb1000@mac.com> on Thursday January 13, 2011 @08:32PM (#34871342)

    The posted speed limit on the freeway here (in Southern California) is 65 mph. The traffic is usually about 80 in the fast lane where I like to drive. I'd say 15 mph above the posted speed limit is much faster. I also think it's time to change that speed limit (some states are as high as 75 on urban freeways, so it's not unprecedented).

  • NASCAR (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Pharmboy (216950) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @08:35PM (#34871392) Journal

    I live in NC. Everyone thinks they are a NASCAR superstar. They pass you then slow down. ("But at least I'm ahead of you!") They swap lanes in front of you when you are going 15mph faster than then, forcing you to hit the brakes. I drive 100 miles every day in this.

    I have lived in Dallas, Phoenix, Kansas, Mississippi, Texas and North Carolina, plus driven all up and down the east coast, from CT to FL. By far, Carolina drivers are the worst for not giving a shit about other drivers. And to answer the question, I drive 8mph over the limit and set the cruise control. The threshold around here is generally 10 over.

    • by cosm (1072588)
      I moved from IL to NC about a decade ago. The biggest thing I noticed after the move in regards to driving were 2 major things:

      - Roads in IL are fucking terrible. It is obvious the bloated bureaucratic douchers up there squander all that toll money (doubling tolls?). At least here in NC our roads are fairly well maintained (granted they aren't snow-plowed to death every winter.)

      - On top of all the wannabe NASCAR superstars here, apparently in NC nobody pulls over for emergency vehicles. I swear, if ther
  • If it is possible to go 80 on a road, I do it. I I can only go 30 from traffic, I do that. If I am on the freeway, Oh boy, get the *@&# out of my way. I am a video gamer, I have good hand-eye coordination. That is my excuse
    • by cosm (1072588)

      If I am on the freeway, Oh boy, get the *@&# out of my way. I am a video gamer, I have good hand-eye coordination. That is my excuse

      GTA series or Forza? Makes a difference. From what I read of you, sounds more like GTA mixed with Midnight Club and some Mario Kart. I bet you even hop over the level boundaries with the kart-jump glitch. Now theres a fine for ya!

    • by Rinnon (1474161)

      If it is possible to go 80 on a road, I do it. I I can only go 30 from traffic, I do that. If I am on the freeway, Oh boy, get the *@&# out of my way. I am a video gamer, I have good hand-eye coordination. That is my excuse

      News flash: when you get in a crash, your car doesn't magically re-appear on the road for you to continue. I'm not saying go as slow as possible, but you only get one fuck-up if you're always driving as fast as possible. It is a fact that the faster you go, the less time you are going to have to react to a situation. Thinking that being a gamer is somehow going to give you the reflexes to save yourself in a dangerous situation is going to get you, or someone else, killed.

  • I have a somewhat physics based approach to driving.

    When I'm driving in town I'm typically 5mph over. When I'm on the Highway/Interstate I'm usually right at 60mph, even in 70mph limited areas.

    I travel at 60mph because my 2006 Civic get about 30% better mileage at that speed. Also if I can find a tractor trailer to draft off of I'll do that too. I have gotten about 45mpg doing that. My car's EPA rating is 34mpg.
  • I usually drive at about the same speed or slightly faster than the rest of the traffic, regardless of what the signs say. If there are no other vehicles or distractions, I'll go as fast as I feel is safe for that road at the moment.

    This may not be the most accurate point of view, but it seems to me that the speed limits are more about revenue than anything else. As such, the only times I even try to go obey speed limits are when I see a cop.

    • by CrazyJim1 (809850)
      That works until they do a speed trap and pull everyone over. You know what the cop says when you say,"I was just going at the pace of traffic to be safe."? The cop says,"If I could pull you all over, I would."
    • by jamesh (87723)

      If you think going 10kph slower (eg the speed limit) than everyone else sets up a dangerous situation, you should see what happens when everyone else hits the brakes when they think they see a cop.

      I just don't understand your motivation for going faster than the speed limit. It's not a race. You don't get a prize for getting there first. You aren't better than the people you overtake. Any 'safe' speed you travel above the speed limit isn't going to make a significant difference to the amount of time it take

  • I can't drive...schfifty five!
  • by reboot246 (623534) on Thursday January 13, 2011 @11:46PM (#34873392) Homepage
    I used to drive like there was no tomorrow because I was immortal.

    After my children were born, I slowed down a bit because I had dependents, but I still drove too fast.

    Now that I'm older and my children are middle-aged, I just go just about the speed limit more or less. I've come to accept the fact that I'm mortal. No sense leaving here before I have to, right? What's the big hurry anyway?

    My late wife was a police officer. Believe me, cops have heard it all. I know how to get out of a speeding ticket, but I'll never tell.
  • If I'm the driver I withhold the source code, I never update, and I constantly crash your box.

  • Only 2% of slashdot readers drive "under the speed limit" yet well over 50% of the time I am stuck behind someone driving under the limit. Either there are not too many slashdot readers in my area or I'm just unlucky.

    • Re:Strange... (Score:5, Informative)

      by jamesh (87723) on Friday January 14, 2011 @02:03AM (#34874272)

      Only 2% of slashdot readers drive "under the speed limit" yet well over 50% of the time I am stuck behind someone driving under the limit. Either there are not too many slashdot readers in my area or I'm just unlucky.

      I think your logic is off. You are way more likely to be stuck behind someone doing under the limit than over it, especially if you sit around the speed limit yourself. It only takes a couple of people doing 20kph below the speed limit on a stretch of road for you to be stuck behind them.

  • by mlc (16290)
    You mean like a car? Why would I want to drive one of those?
  • I often go somewhere between the speed limit and 5mph under (in the right lane of course). If you're careful you can save a lot of gas. A couple years ago when gasoline hit $5/gallon and more I sometimes went considerably slower than the speed limit out of necessity. Luckily I didn't have to drive in very heavy traffic so I wasn't *much* of an obstruction.
  • for physical objects I'm aware of so far is C.
    I am somewhat compliant.
  • by coolmadsi (823103) on Friday January 14, 2011 @11:27AM (#34877962) Homepage Journal
    I don't drive. I get that the question starts "If I'm the driver...", but I'm looking for the 'else' case.
  • by emkyooess (1551693) on Friday January 14, 2011 @06:56PM (#34884628)

    Don't drive. No license to do so. And, there's no real need to get it until my city shuts down its pubtran.

  • by Quila (201335) on Friday January 14, 2011 @09:13PM (#34885988)

    This has included me going far below the speed limit.

    And above too, but not too far above to lose my license.

  • by SuperCharlie (1068072) on Friday January 14, 2011 @09:37PM (#34886136)
    I drive just about exactly 5mph slower than the slowest person in front of me..up to about 10mph under the speed limit..where I go around them and continue my 5mph under..

    I call this "bubble" driving.. yes I stay in the slow lane.

    The effect is actually quite incredible. It creates a slipstream type bubble where the hurry up go around people continue their obsession with saving the 2 minutes and I get a care-free, stress free, mpg enhanced ride.

    So ya.. just go around..Ill be there in a minute.

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