Oh well, apparently socialism causes you to not close HTML tags properly. I can live with that.

Thank you for your salient points regarding my personality. If this is the way libertarianism is to be promoted, no one will have to worry about it ever taking over.

I will now exercise my freedom to ask you to shut the fuck up and subsequently ignore you, since you obviously have no clue about how to conduct a civilized conversation.

Good day, sir.

Nice ad hominem you've got there, but I don't want to control anyone.

All I want is for people to contribute to the society that helped them achieve their current station in life. Unfortunately, since it's most profitable to exploit people and not give a single dime back, some people refuse to give anything unless they're made to do so. We know these people as libertarians, people who refuse to give because they think hardcore individualism is the way forward, in the erroneous belief that no one helped them reach their current station in life. They couldn't be more wrong.

Silly little man, it's not about being owned by anyone, it's about contributing to the society that helped you reach your current, comfortable station in life.

Despite your "me, me, me and me alone" ranting, you didn't get there by yourself. Not by a long shot. But in the black and white libertarian world view, everyone is an individual, completely untouched and unspoiled by the help of others. Good luck with that.

And you don't see a pattern there?

You get shouted down because you're on a smart geek site instead of in the libertarian echo chamber you're used to.

I wish you had a username.

That way I could put you on ignore and not have to read your childish libertarian dribble ever again.

Such are the "joys" of living in a society where education is only open to those with money, where the poor have almost zero possibility of earning a degree that they could use to expand the number of jobs available to them. The elite likes this very much, it keeps the poors down in the muck where they belong, right?

I didn't have to pay for my education. In fact I was paid while I received my education. It's brilliant, even people with no money at all have the possibility of being taught valuable skills that they can use to apply for more jobs and thereby further their station in life. It's called being part of a society that doesn't actively shit on you on a daily basis.

But oh no, that's socalism and we don't want none of that, no siree! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

Blind as bats, the lot of you.

No, people in cars hit other people in cars all the time. The vehicle of choice is not the problem, it's the distracted dumbass driving it.

We need to stomp out this kind of idiotic "it's his own fault that he dies because I plowed into him, he was driving a vehicle that is less safe in a collision than mine" mentality.

People need to learn that it is completely unacceptable to drive drunk or distracted or otherwise impaired. Cell phone usage is a major factor in this, as is the mentality that driving is a right instead of the privilege that it is.

You fucked up in traffic and hurt people or put them in great danger? You lose your license and your vehicle. Fuck you, you are not fit to drive in a responsible manner.

Well, you may not want to endorse socialism, but I sure as hell will.

Marxism and Socialism and Communism should not be treated as dirty words. They are valid, well thought out and highly viable ways to run a country and an economy.

There is a hell of a lot or knee-jerk reactions whenever either of those three words are used, which tends to derail any discussion into an irrational mess of name-calling and idiocy.

Everyone should read Das Kapital (the Penguin classics edition is what I have, it's very nice). Karl Marx was a visionary and a hero to workers everywhere. It is such a shame that his philosophies have been appropriated by power-hungry tyrants and twisted into something Marx never intended.