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Comment: Re:Is that what I think it is? (Score 2) 90

by denzacar (#39022659) Attached to: Hungary's Needy Given Money to Burn

You shouldn't have skipped the part at 0:26 then.
The part where in the background a woman gives a young man, who clearly displays a lack of concentration and of motoric skills, a basketball to hold up in the air while leading him in a walk on a raised platform of some kind.
I'm guessing the platform is a bench and they are doing a balance exercise.

That might have clued you in that the room is a small gym.

Then again, since your prejudice prevented you from realizing that on your own, seeing there is a girl led through the same exercise in the very frame you chose to present - there is this part a couple of seconds earlier.

Comment: Re:Children's section? (Score 1) 584

It's not any meaningful restriction.

Because it is unenforced. But just like all those laws it is still valid.

For purely financial reasons the library needs a responsible non-minor on record whom they can bill in case materials are not returned.

Financial and LEGAL reasons.
That is why kids 11 and younger must bring their parents to sign the papers, and not a cash deposit.

Comment: Funny that... (Score 1) 728

by denzacar (#38994879) Attached to: No Pardon For Turing

I take it, by evil, you mean things you don't like.

You can quote, but apparently you can't read what you quote. The very sentence you quoted above explains WHY religion is evil.

The fact that you apparently can't grasp (or you refuse to grasp it) its pretty straightforward language and meaning does not really represent a proof positive for my claim, but it does strongly indicate that it is true.

Comment: Actually... (Score 2) 728

by denzacar (#38944729) Attached to: No Pardon For Turing

My point was that there's no evidence for the second claim in GP's message, and yet his message was modded "insightful".

Actually, evidence is very simple.
When presented with evidence of the falseness of their particular flavor of religious teachings, religious people either simply reject the evidence or try to readjust the definitions of their religious teachings so that it is all still "true" in face of the evidence to the contrary.
Basically, they try to maintain the "truth" by lying to themselves.

But that is just practical evidence.
True reason for the debilitation factors of faith and religion is that every single one tries to explain EVERYTHING there is, there ever was and that there ever will be with its dogma.
Dogma, which every proponent of that particular faith/religion must accept as true, undeniable and unchangeable as it contains both the principles of their faith as well as the explanation of the Universe.

Those explanations being ultimately limited by their own definition as absolute truths, undeniable and unchangeable facts are BOUND to clash with actual data sooner or later.
At that moment, the religious person can either accept the new data throwing away his/her entire life and the view of the world, reject the clearly visible new data and stick to their dogma OR try to jury rig the new data onto the old dogma.
And so we get people claiming that there were dinosaurs in the garden of Eden and all the way up to the Biblical flood.

Basically, the victim of religion can choose between acceptance of selective reasoning and self-immolation of their "self" by rejecting the single most important thing in their lives, on which they've built not only their view of the world but also every single relation to the world around them - social, economical, philosophical... etc.

Either way, the person is scarred for life from that point on.
By a mere act of being exposed to new information, be it an idea or simply data.
And anything that can damage person's most important ability, to reason, by making them basically highly allergic to the truth and knowledge is not only debilitating but essentially evil as well.

Comment: Nope... (Score 1) 584

From your own link:

Your library card is your key to the resources the Library has to offer. Learn how to get one here.

Your library card is your key to the resources and services of all New York Public Library locations in the Bronx, Manhattan, and Staten Island. In addition to borrowing library materials, your card will let you reserve a computer, download digital media, search hundreds of electronic databases, and more.

It's a case of non enforcement of existing rules and regulations.

Rules say that you don't get to use the library without a card. Stacks or borrowing or ANYTHING that the library provides.
To get a library card, you either provide identification which shows your age, OR your parents do that for you if you are under 12.

As for the age restriction, they are treating everyone above 12 years of age as a "young adult".
And the burden of "thinking about the children", i.e. kids who are of 11 years old or younger, is simply being left to their parents.

I'm not saying that's bad or anything.
In fact, I think that should be the way it's done generally - not treating teenagers as if they are babies, when most of them are clearly closer to adults than children.

I'm just saying that there ARE rules in place already - it's just that their enforcement is rather lax.

Comment: Re:Children's section? (Score 1) 584

Thanks for the link above, spared me some time.

Even considering that type of restriction, however, I've never been to a public library that checked identification or age before allowing access to the stacks; even a kid with borrowing restrictions - or no card at all - could still pull books off the shelf and read them in the library.

Well, that's a different ballgame.
Libraries clearly DO have age restrictions, only they don't follow them to the letter as it is not say... a swimming pool but a library.

On the other hand, minors being allowed access to adult-only material BECAUSE they didn't follow their own restrictions... well...
Their restrictions - their responsibility.

Comment: Re:Children's section? (Score 1) 584

In any case, the guy watching porn in the library and refusing to be considerate of others is a jerk and, from a community standpoint, probably needs a good talking to. But it's not a crime to be a jerk, as much as that main pain some of us.

Oh, I agree. Completely.

I'm just saying that crying out "think of the children" may be (in any case it SHOULD be) a tad bit misplaced this time.

Comment: Re:Children's section? (Score 1) 584

Well... despite the ALA policy above there IS quite a bit of restriction built-in.
It's probably just the case of them not considering something as basic as a "library card" an actual restriction.
Note the language used and the ages in question.
And the burden of "thinking about the children" being placed squarely on their parents' shoulders.

As for "actual knowledge of typical librarian policies" - I could ask my friend who is a librarian. Let me know exactly what you want to know and I'll relay it to her.

But bear in mind that "typical" and "official" policies may be two VERY different things here.
Actually, considering that each canton has its own ministry of education, plus the Federal one, plus the one for Republika Srpska...
That's like... what? Twenty four different things?
And, while Tuzla may not be very fundie, situation in other places CAN and DOES differ.

I mean, every couple of years some idiot comes out against Santa Claus - cause that's Christian propaganda aimed at Muslim children.
And naturally, those are not the most serious cases.

And don't think it's just the Muslims.
It is generally understood that Croat means Catholic, Serb an East Orthodox Christian and Bosnian or Bosniak a Muslim Such logic is even imposed on the constitution through the fact that only member of those three nationalities can and may be elected as presidents. Of which we have three at the same time.
And couple of years ago when a Croat from a socialist-democratic party (as opposed to several Croat nationalist parties) was elected into the presidency as the representative of the Bosnian Croats - those from the Croat nationalist parties called for his resignation because he was not "a real Croat" in their mind and because they claimed that he was elected by Muslims.
Remember that "Obama can't be the presidn't cause he ain't 'merican" nonsense?
Well... Imagine if it was republican party that demanded his resignation cause a) he is not a U.S. citizen and b) cause only blacks voted for him.

Comment: What superior numbers? (Score 4, Informative) 600

by denzacar (#38935735) Attached to: India Turns Down American Fighter Jets, Buys From France

From the very same Wikipedia article linked in the post above:

The main U.S. unit in the battle was the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment (2nd ACR), a 4,500 man reconnaissance and security element assigned to VII Corps.
It consisted of three ground squadrons (1st, 2nd and 3rd), an aviation (attack helicopter) squadron (4th), and a support squadron.
The 2ACR combat team numbered around 10,000 soldiers.
Each ground squadron was made up of three cavalry troops, a tank company, a self-propelled howitzer battery, and a headquarters troop.
Each troop comprised 120 soldiers, 12 M3 Bradley fighting vehicles and nine M1A1 Abrams main battle tanks.[1]
The corps' main body consisted of the American 3rd Armored Division (3rd AD) and 1st Infantry Division (1st ID) and 1st Armored Division (1st AD), and the British 1st Armoured Division (1 AD).

The primary battle was conducted by 2ACR's three squadrons of about 400 soldiers, along with the 1st Infantry Division's two leading brigades, who attacked and destroyed the Iraqi 18th Mechanized Brigade and 37th Armored Brigade) of the Tawakalna Division, each consisting of between 2,500 to 3,000 personnel.[1]
During the battle, 2nd ACR destroyed 160 tanks, 180 personnel carriers, 12 artillery pieces and more than 80 wheeled vehicles, along with several anti-aircraft artillery systems.

That's 189 armored vehicles, plus their support.
Plus air support.

Scout and attack helicopters of Fourth Squadron and 2-1 Aviation Battalion (AH 64 Apache) supported the fight as weather allowed.

Plus a shitload of TOWs.

After defeating that force, McMaster sent a scout platoon north to regain contact with Troop G. In doing that the scout platoon encountered another Iraqi tank position of thirteen T72s which they destroyed with TOW missiles.

All of the above (and more) used at the same time whenever they encountered the enemy, during 24+ hours of the battle.
So, all at the same time, but not all at once.

Combat became so intense at times that only massed artillery and mortar fires, attack helicopters and Air Force close air support prevented the enemy from closing with G Troop.
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Artillery fire and air strikes played a large role in the battle, especially in the far north. Colonel Gary Bourneâ(TM)s 210th FA Brigade in direct support of 2nd ACR fired missions out to the 78 Easting. Close air support missions struck targets in greater depth preventing some Iraqi units from closing with G Troop or escaping the battle area. Attack helicopters flew in support of air scouts at key intervals during the day and the 2-1 Aviation Battalionâ(TM)s Apache helicopters, led by Lt Colonel Jon Ward, destroyed two batteries of enemy artillery and struck march units along the IPSA Pipeline Road at 4:30 p.m. just as the battle began in earnest.

During Desert Storm Coalition troops numbered at 956600 - versus 650000 Iraqi troops.
They didn't go there to test "what can happen when superior technology is used against superior numbers".
That is not how you win wars.

You win wars by being the side with BOTH superior technology and superior numbers, AND by bringing both down heavily on your enemy's head.
That's why during the Desert Storm US troops numbered basically the same number of battle deaths and "slipped in the shower/fell from a chair" deaths.

Comment: Re:Children's section? (Score 1) 584

As long as a kid isn't running and screaming, any good librarian is pleased to see a young person with the interest and ability to utilize the adult section. I dunno, maybe your community library was different. Did you grow up in some repressive fundie backwater?

Actually, no. It was not fundie even at the time when being fundie was really popular.
As for being a backwater, that's debatable. It WAS a lagoon couple of million years ago.

Like I said to the other poster, segregation according to age simply seems neater.
Particularly seeing the sorry state of books in the children's section. AND the noise levels there.

when I was in elementary school the children's section got too damn boring after about a half hour.

I too was raiding the adult section (which basically meant everything besides the stuff for the elementary school kids) pretty early, but I had to use my mother's card for a while.
But I assume that I would at least raise an eyebrow or two had I started picking up Marquis de Sade, Nabokov and whatnot.

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