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AT&T Offering Merger Concessions
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CowboyNeal
on Fri Dec 29, 2006 06:19 AM
from the speeding-things-along dept.
from the speeding-things-along dept.
TheFarmerInTheDell writes that AT&T is offering concessions to make their merger with BellSouth happen as fast as possible. From the article:
"AT&T filed a letter of commitment with the [Federal Communications Commission] Thursday night that adds a number of new conditions to the deal, including a promise to observe 'network neutrality' principles, an offer of affordable stand-alone digital subscriber line service and divestment of some wireless spectrum."
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merger. (Score:1)
Don't forget the fine print. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.draconpern.com/)
But (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday October 25, @05:24AM)
Yay, AT&T!
SBC != BellSouth (Score:4, Informative)
Re:SBC != BellSouth (Score:4, Funny)
(http://onphilosophy.wordpress.com/)
One network to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
Read The Fine Print (Score:2, Redundant)
Welcome Back Ma Bell (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Welcome Back Ma Bell (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/~silentounce)
Monopolies or oligopolies aren't all bad in some industries, sometimes they are the most efficient market structure. I'm not saying that the telecom industry is one of these, but there is a reason that after several breakups that they just coming back together. The same thing has happened in the airline industry. Any industry that demands a very large infrastructure will always lean toward a non-competetive market structure because the "cost to play" is so high.
Re:Welcome Back Ma Bell (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not the "industry" that wants a monopoly, it's the management of this industry. Industry itself has no self-organized will to monopolize. Monopolies are inherently anti-competetive. The reason Ma Bell was broken up in the first place was to protect consumers. It is inherently in the best interest of these companies to raise the "cost to play" once they've formed a monopoly in order to keep small players out and thus kill off competition. Once you're the only provider, you can afford to pay whatever outrageous fees are needed because consumers have no choice but to pay you for service. Look what happened when the government recently removed the Universal Service Fund fee and the big telcos moved to fill that gap to help pay off their taxes. And they're still getting away with "tax recovery" fees, passing on their social responsibility to their customers in order to bolster their bottom line. Can I get a raise of hands here on how many people find today's cable or telco companies (land-line or cell) doing all they can to respond to market pressure and consumer demand instead of just filling their own pockets?
But hey, if you want to go back to renting phones, be my guest...
Re:Welcome Back Ma Bell (Score:5, Insightful)
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That ain't no concession (Score:4, Insightful)
That's not a concession - that's an attempt to head off binding legislation with a 'promise' that is easily broken once the merger is past the point of no return. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
SBC or BellSouth? (Score:1)
I know, confusing.... but wait till AT&T merges with the Borg.
Wait a sec (Score:1, Informative)
(Last Journal: Wednesday August 15, @02:45PM)
Some 'consession'.... (Score:3, Informative)
(Last Journal: Monday October 22, @10:09PM)
Not to mention the other bs in this agreement:
$20 DSL for consumers whether they sign up for other services or not - when you are an effective monopoly in the area, does it matter if signing up for other services is required?
Repatriate 3,000 outsourced jobs - when you are dropping 10,000 jobs, 3,000 is a drop in the bucket.
And, going back to the net neutrality clause, 'AT&T said it would "maintain a neutral network and neutral routing in its wireline broadband Internet access service"' - sounds to me like they are trying to leave all sorts of wiggle room here...
Which is it? (Score:3, Insightful)
But I thought network neutrality was bad for consumers last time we asked the telcos?
Effect on WiMAX (Score:2)
According to the article:
A bit of trivia: according to the FCC's license database [fcc.gov], BellSouth owns more than 60 channels useful for WiMAX [wimaxforum.org], 40 of them at 2.5 GHz. The article implies that BellSouth would retain the 2.3 GHz spectrum they have (about 20 licenses). (AT&T probably has licenses, too, so the reason for divestment must have been to avoid overlap.)
This means that either a new service provider could appear who could deploy WiMAX, or an existing service provider could expand their footprint. BellSouth has been a major proponent for WiMAX, so it probably won't accelerate the adoption any more than before, but it could help increase the number of broadband service providers in the area.
I promise I'll pull out... (Score:5, Funny)
It sounds like the FCC needs to invoke the "no glove/no love" rule.
Net Neutrality isn't always a good thing... (Score:1)
Without QoS on your IPTV service, your 15 y/o daughter would cause daily reception problems because she keeps downloading Britney Spears albums.
Divesture? (Score:2)
Most of these 'concessions' sunset after 40 months (Score:3, Insightful)
Politicians always agree to these dumb time limits without thinking long term. The internet will be around for a hell of a lot longer than 40 months and they should understand that - the telcos sure as hell do.
Think about this... (Score:1)
AT&T nee SBC nee Ameritech nee Illinois Bell is - the last time I looked - paying more than one million dollars a day in fines. I guess it's just the price of doing businesses.
AT&T - service so bad they've rebranded the company three times (and counting).
Yeah... (Score:2)
Promise to observe network neutrality ... (Score:2)
"Now what they would like to do is use my pipes free, but I ain't going to let them do that because we have spent this capital and we have to have a return on it. So there's going to have to be some mechanism for these people who use these pipes to pay for the portion they're using," he said, according to Business Week Online's edited excerpts of the interview.
"Why should they be allowed to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because we and the cable companies have made an investment and for a Google or Yahoo or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes free is nuts," he said.
So, given the rather unenlightened attitude evidenced by this double-dipping bastard I think I have reason to ask: what assurances is AT&T/SBC providing that they will not only maintain some level of neutrality, but will continue to do so in the future? Bland "assurances" mean absolutely nothing, and if the SEC takes them at their word in this matter I'll lose a lot of respect for that organization. It isn't wise to believe anything coming out of a telephone company executive's mouth, just on principle, and that applies to most cable company management as well.
Re:georgewellian mindphucking to continue in 2007? (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:Skyrocketting prices already (Score:1)
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It started off saying "At AT&T, we are committed to bringing you great service.", followed by the usual corporate marketdroid head-farts telling me that "Now is the perfect time to switch to a new AT&T package that better fits your needs!".
The back of the postcard was full of rate changes. All nasty increases.
I was already pissed at SBC for getting into bed with YAHOO, requiring me to load proprietary YAHOO portal software on my machine. This resulted in my dropping PacBell, which I have had for five years as my ISP.
Now this.
And they have the nerve to give me their "bargain rates" of $24 and $26 a month for their bundles? Geez, they oughta just go ahead and throw in high speed DSL at those rates!!! This is likely to be just another "AT&T Price" which is apt to double in a year anyway.
Companies like AT&T are one of the main reasons I distrust MegaBusiness. They have the chutzpah to mail out all kinds of demands to customers in order to do business with them. They think 30% hikes are easy to swallow? I know I am talking peanuts in comparison to the salary and benefits AT&T is paying that marketdroid who sent me this card. AT&T Executives can sit in their boardroom shaking hands. I have made it my business to get AT&T out of my life as much as I can.
Irregardless, I will be dropping Caller ID, even though I did like it. Damm, I can buy an answering machine for less than two month's CallerID fee.
I know where I stand with AT&T. Absolutely useless. I am one of millions of proles dutifully getting our checkbooks out every month and returning a check with our statements. Why would a multibillion dollar corporation want me or my lousy twenty dollar check? Why would some corporate executive piss off millions of paying customers.... I get the idea his hand was itching something terrible and he needed a handshake from some man wearing a suit.
What would THEY do if I sent them a postcard saying I will pay 30% LESS? I didn't because I wanted to keep doing business with them. They DO have the chutzpah to send ME such a card.
Being a successful corporate executive these days appears to me to be highly related to one's skill in finding a person who will pay them a salary far beyond the benefit they provide. Its having the "people skills" to lead the man who approves their job to keep them, even while they shit on their customers.
The boardroom votes over a long corporate table. The proles vote over their checkbook and pen.
Both decide if its worth it to do business with the other.
As long as the game is in play, AT&T gets paid monthly. With their card, they raise. Do I fold or call? They have initiated endgame.
In short, this kind of shit requires a CEO at the top who completely disregards his customers, and is willing to risk longterm customer relationships over a marketing ploy. Do you wanna kill the geese laying the golden eggs?
Today, the barbeque, tomorrow, the famine.
I am now investigating any alternative I have to AT&T for land lines. I am of the opinion that land lines, even though they have existed for years, may just be completely economically obsolete. I hope Wal Mart decides to run a cellphone service, as I think they are one of the very few concerns out there which has enough capital to start such a system and do it right.
Your Rate Increase. Delivered. AT&T.