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Microsoft To Invest $1.1 Billion in Mexico Over Next 5 Years (reuters.com) 43

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Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella said the technology giant will invest $1.1 billion in Mexico over the next five years, according to a promotional video released by the Mexican government on Thursday. From a report: Nadella said the investment is "focused on expanding access to digital technology for people and organizations across the country." Microsoft will build a new data center to deliver "client services to help every organization to really get an advantage and drive digital transformation," added Nadella, who met with Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador last year. The U.S. company will also invest in training labs and skills programs, Nadella said.
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  • ....do the Mexican Drug Cartels down there use more MS Windows products that I'd originally thought?

    Are they big into using Excel to track their body counts?

    Otherwise...I'm trying to figure out exactly what in MX would need its down data center, etc....

    • Ugh...need to read better before submitting:

      ...do the Mexican Drug Cartels down there use more MS Windows products than I'd originally thought?

      Are they big into using Excel to track their body counts?

      Otherwise...I'm trying to figure out exactly what in Mexico would need its own data center, etc....

      • Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........

        Your sig is so descriptive ... of you.

    • Re:So... (Score:5, Informative)

      by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Thursday February 20, 2020 @12:52PM (#59747102) Journal
      There's a large programming community in Mexico, and a lot of really good programmers. So if you're going to outsource, it makes sense to outsource to Mexico instead of a far different timezone.
      • There's also an ex pat community in Central America worth hiring from.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Also, there are much less of the onerous regulations that the US Government imposes on corporations that do business here.... expect to see much,much more of this type of thing if one of the goofballs we saw on on TV debating yesterday evening bumbles into the presidency by promising free shit for everyone and the big evil corporations will pay for it....

    • ....do the Mexican Drug Cartels down there use more MS Windows products that I'd originally thought?

      Are they big into using Excel to track their body counts?

      Otherwise...I'm trying to figure out exactly what in MX would need its down data center, etc....

      You know, there's probably a LOT more to Mexico than "Drug Cartels".

      This is what happens when other countries learn about Mexico through the bullshit-and-hype lens of the MSM and Farcebook.

      • You know, there's probably a LOT more to Mexico than "Drug Cartels".

        This is what happens when other countries learn about Mexico through the bullshit-and-hype lens of the MSM and Farcebook.

        Well, I don't do social media.....but I have been to Mexico more than a couple of times, and aside from the tourism sites, there ain't much else there that is worthwhile at all.

        And with some of the drug wars now spilling over into the tourist areas, I'm not anxious to ever go visit there again any time soon.

        Sad, I

        • Well, I don't do social media.....but I have been to Mexico more than a couple of times, and aside from the tourism sites, there ain't much else there that is worthwhile at all.

          Dude, quit it with the Ignorant American stereotype. In XXI century America, and from an educated tech professional, it's getting old.

          Oh. You're serious.

          Mexico is a middle-class country, with its obvious slew of social/political/economical problems. It is the 15th largest in the world in nominal terms and the 11th largest by p

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by jma05 ( 897351 )

            > Type "modern Mexico". Heck, you don't even have to read (again, the Ignorant Gringo stereotype), just go over the image search results.

            While your point is well taken, you can get similar results for just about anything.

            "modern pyongyang" is even more impressive.

      • You know, there's probably a LOT more to Mexico than "Drug Cartels".

        There's all kinds of culture [wikipedia.org] to be experienced.

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    • ....do the Mexican Drug Cartels down there use more MS Windows products that I'd originally thought?

      Are they big into using Excel to track their body counts?

      Otherwise...I'm trying to figure out exactly what in MX would need its down data center, etc....

      This is a statement made by a very ignorant person. Despite its problems, Mexico is a middle-income nation with a host of multi-nationals, telecoms, engineering firms, and a large software engineering base.

      In this time and age when information is at one's fingertips, it truly takes a hands-on fucked up effort to remain in such an ignorant state of being. Congratulations.

      • Mexico is a middle-income nation

        Really?

        Where?

        I mean, maybe in Mexico City...but where else?

        Everything else I've seen is either tourist spots or shit holes full of poverty.

        • Mexico is a middle-income nation

          Really?

          Where?

          I mean, maybe in Mexico City...but where else?

          Are you asking me because you know the answer for a fact? Or because you got caught red handed with your ignorant bullshit and got nothing else to offer?

          Everything else I've seen is either tourist spots or shit holes full of poverty.

          Do you want me to prove it to you - with citable facts, references and shit - that you don't know what you are talking about? Do I really have to fucking google it for you?

          Look, you are just stalling. You posted some misinformed and borderline bigoted generalization bullshit and got called on it. That's all there is to it.

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            • Look, you are just stalling. You posted some misinformed and borderline bigoted generalization bullshit and got called on it. That's all there is to it.

              And you're ignoring a murder rate that places Mexico 60 spots higher up on the list of "most murders per capita" than the United States (19th place versus 79th place).

              As someone who has been to Mexico several hundred times, I also wonder where the fuck this "prosperous Mexico" is. I'm sure there are places.. I guess. But a huge chunk of that country is a poor shithole because the murder and corruption are out of fucking control.

              I never denied the murder rate, nor pretend the country is great or prosperous. I never said any of that. I said there's enormous economic activity along large corporations and multinationals (Cemex, Pemex.) The country is the fastest growing market of robotics in LATAM, and it has had a large engineering market for decades.

              That doesn't deny (and certainly doesn't solve) the horrible conditions brought about by poverty and inequality (just as these do not deny the existence of a market sector that require

          • If Mexico is so GREAT as you claim it to be, then WTF are people climbing all over each other to come to the US...even (mostly) illegally?

            • If Mexico is so GREAT as you claim it to be, then WTF are people climbing all over each other to come to the US...even (mostly) illegally?

              I didn't claim it is great. I claim it is a middle income country (this is a very specific economic definition that entails a number of economic activities, not a high standard of living.)

              Half of the nation lives in porverty, but that doesn't deny there's about 80 million people living and working in several conurbations (the DF, Guadalajara, Toluca, etc.) All that drives a lot of economic activity and sustain a large number of corporations that use software systems.

              It has nothing to do with whether the

    • This reminds me of Jimmy Kimmel video, where some americans can't point a country outside USA. So narrow vision...

      • This reminds me of Jimmy Kimmel video, where some americans can't point a country outside USA. So narrow vision...

        I know where Mexico is.

        I used to vacation and visit down there, until it became too dangerous for my comfort level.

        But aside from tourist zones, and Mexico City and maybe 1-2 other places, it is nothing but poverty, drug gangs and overt corruption.

        • From your description, it appears you know it intimately, cayenne8. One wonders how you know so much about poverty, drug gangs and overt corruption that you can recognize it so quickly (that most of it is that way) from just a few visits....Perhaps you had more than a few visits? hmmm? What percentage of the total land mass of Mexico did you visit, by the way, if you were to take a guess?

    • You know The United States has its own problem with Organized Crime, originating from American Citizens.

      People get into organized crime, is not for the love of the industry, but from lack of preceieved available options.
      Having Microsoft invest into Mexico, means people will have alternative career paths open to them.

      Mexico is the 15th largest world economy. While that is dwarfed by the United States that covers its northern border, it is in the middle of States of Florida and New York in terms of GDP. And

      • You know The United States has its own problem with Organized Crime, originating from American Citizens.

        Sure, there is crime everywhere....

        But unlike Mexico, you don't have major cities where you regularly see people slaughtered, with heads cut off, dismemberment, torture.....etc.

        This is not only happening in the border towns, where the drugs cross, but in many other places across MX.

        Its a regular, normal every day occurrence down in Mexico these days.

        • The United States host some of the most violent cities in the world. Even some of our small "Quaint" cities have a major problem with violence. If you befriend people who are in the know, you can find there is a major problems in these cities. Big Crime Bosses, Corrupt Police who look the other way, Politicians who will ignore the problem and pretend it isn't an issue. And people getting killed all the time.

          This is across the US as well. Oddly enough when a major crime happens to someone south of the bo

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  • Mexico has a large population that is increasing in wealth so it is an obvious place to invest. Politics currently paints Mexico as some sort of enemy but it is a good place to make money.

    • Mexico has a large population that is increasing in wealth so it is an obvious place to invest. Politics currently paints Mexico as some sort of enemy but it is a good place to make money.

      I like the idea of pulling back a lot of China jobs to Mexico to help build their economy and political relations with us. Even if the manufacturing is more expensive the savings on shipping and customs would be worth it.

      Turning the Wall from a physical thing between Mexico and the US into a stronger stable Mexico is something I can get behind.

  • Or less than 1/2 a mega-yacht (which supposedly isn't true anyway)

    I'm guessing the Mexican Government wanted their cloud AI/data centers located within their country for their upcoming biometric/citizen/illegal alien tracking systems to minimize "local legal difficulties" involving data in centers in other countries.

  • They might stay in their own country if their economy was developed to support instead of running all over the place looking for better opportunities.
    • You can thank NAFTA for that, which destroyed all economies involved, especially Mexico. Of course, the only ones who benefited from NAFTA were the elites. Here, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] Probably the only ones to benefit from Microsoft's investment would be Microsoft.

  • Nadella said the investment is "focused on expanding access to digital technology for people in drug cartel organizations across the country."

    Fuck off Microsoft. If you care so gods-be-damned much about the standard of living in Mexico, how about you invest $1.1B in getting them free of the gods-be-damned drug cartels?
    Oh no no no market dominance and profit above all else! We don't care where the money comes from so long as we get it!
    THIS is the kind of shit I'm talking about when I say "capitalism gone bad".

    • Even better, tell the Americans to stop providing a market for the cartels. The other thing to do is re-negotiate NAFTA (and all other international trade agreements) to say, 'we will not deal with you unless you pay your people a living wage.' Which means the workers can actually survive on what they are being paid. That will start to turn things around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • Meanwhile Mexico is slipping further and further into lawlessness, to the point where entire regions of the country are not controlled by the government anymore. I wonder what the logic is behind investing when there's this much uncertainty, in a country where we will likely have to intervene militarily over the next decade to fight the cartels.

    • Meanwhile Mexico is slipping further and further into lawlessness, to the point where entire regions of the country are not controlled by the government anymore. I wonder what the logic is behind investing when there's this much uncertainty, in a country where we will likely have to intervene militarily over the next decade to fight the cartels.

      I agree that they are losing the rule of law but it's a fair question to ask if they ever really had it. Bribes are common place and have been for ages. The corruption is epic and has been for ages. As for the Cartels, fighting them is akin to fighting Jihadis - either you go medieval and kill everyone taller than an axe handle or you'll never really be rid of them. I can't predict the future but I will predict with confidence that in 100 years Mexico will still be corrupt and crime will still be rampan

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by melted ( 227442 )

        >> fighting them is akin to fighting Jihadis

        Not if you arm the vigilantes to the teeth, and provide support where they can't take their country back on their own. Mexicans themselves are sick and tired of this bullshit.

      • I can't predict the future but I will predict with confidence that in 100 years Mexico will still be corrupt and crime will still be rampant. At some point it just seeps into the society. Expect this to be carried to the US starting with the border states.

        Please, in my opinion the U.S. is already corrupt. Besides, whether talking about Mexico or the U.S., I tend to believe the old saying "corruption starts at the top". And it's probably best to fight it starting at the top.

        • I can't predict the future but I will predict with confidence that in 100 years Mexico will still be corrupt and crime will still be rampant. At some point it just seeps into the society. Expect this to be carried to the US starting with the border states.

          Please, in my opinion the U.S. is already corrupt. Besides, whether talking about Mexico or the U.S., I tend to believe the old saying "corruption starts at the top". And it's probably best to fight it starting at the top.

          While there's definitely corruption in the US you have to admit that the scale versus Mexico is night and day. But don't take my word for it, how does #23 vs #130 sound for ranking. Sure we have room to improve but Mexico is utterly hopeless. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

  • Not going to pay off well because the drug cartels won't let it.

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