MySpace Takes on Google News and Digg 123
cyberianpan writes "According to a Times Online article, MySpace is going into the news business. They'll soon be premiering a service that will scour the internet for news stories and let users vote on which ones receive the most exposure. This approach blends elements of Google News and sites such as Digg and Netscape, which rely on readers to submit stories and determine their prominence. One could see where this might be the 'holy grail' of internet news. Not only will you be able to tap into the wisdom of the crowds, but ultimately your recommended stories could be influenced by the likes and dislikes of your friends/heroes."
Uh, "the wisdom of the crowds"? (Score:5, Funny)
And "ultimately your recommended stories could be influenced by the likes and dislikes of your friends/heroes"?
All in the same paragraph as "MySpace"?
Hold the phone... where do I sign up?
After all, it worked marvelously for Digg!
And instead of taking contributions everyone - which works out famously on Digg, by the way - or instead of using intelligent algorithms to uniformly aggregate news from a wide variety of news outlets around the world, this instead filters down to the existing membership and intellectual level of MySpace?
What could go wrong?
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More like "the collective whim of whatever quasi-viral story du jour interests MySpace users at the moment".
Yeah, I realize News Corp owns MySpace. But give me a break.
Re:Uh, "the wisdom of the crowds"? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Uh, "the wisdom of the crowds"? (Score:4, Informative)
I've also got NoScript on my FireFox, which limits some of the worst abuses that a web page can throw at me.
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Adblock is probably more generally effective, but I don't mind polite ads, so I don't use it.
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Here's your Pitchfork and Burning Torch (Score:4, Funny)
I'll take my content filtered by The Man, please.
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A MySpace Crime Blotter would be interesting (Score:2)
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Wait, people post stupid, embarrassing and/or illegal crap on their MySpace pages? Who knew!?
Re:Uh, "the wisdom of the crowds"? (Score:5, Funny)
Enough said.
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du jour at the moment (Score:2)
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It's Coming (Score:2)
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Anna Nicole Smith (Score:3, Insightful)
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Again, and again, and again...., American Idol a thousand weeks running. who cares?
Sure, but if the rating system depends on reviewers that you have hand picked, as compared to middle age white men with jobs at newspapers or random internet fuck-tards, in theroy at least, you can get better reviews than what is out there right now. I'm just waiting for a movie review system that doesn't depend on a group of people who rate shit that makes them want to cry over anything else.
About time (Score:5, Funny)
Rupert Murdoch (Score:5, Informative)
Rupert Murdoch owns News Corporation [newscorp.com], a conglomerate business that, among other things, owns many news sources. MySpace is a division of News Corp as well as Fox News, The Sun, The Australian, SmartSource, The Times, New York Post, News of the World, etc.
Something interesting about Rupert Murdoch is his political leanings are often reflected in all of the divisions of his corporation [wikipedia.org]. Guess why 175 of his editors favored the Iraq war [guardian.co.uk].
Call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever you need to call me in order to ignore one nagging issue--is it really that safe to have so many different news sources coming from really the same man? The worst part is that there is no perceived relation between the New York Post and Fox News yet they are basically one and the same in how they spin their news on partisan issues. It's the same in Great Britain & Australia. I don't even care that he's predominantly conservative in his views, I just care that if he decided to back any candidate (possibly even Hillary Clinton) that suddenly that candidate is favored in many news sources. He's making political decisions that impact the world and he's not an elected politician.
I fear that if MySpace is edited at all by hand or by automation, it will favor articles that favor his candidates--in exactly the same way he has been running his newspapers and TV news. Beware your free and capitalist media, America because it looks as though a single man has a growing monopoly on it
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Done and done.
And that's not "ignoring a nagging issue".
The allegations of a silent right wing conspiracy in media is just as ridiculous as the "liberal media" assertions.
For every "editor" somewhere in the machinations of News Corp that has some political leaning, there are plenty of others in News Corp and other large news organizations elsewhere who have the opposite slant, constant rips on FOX News aside.
But if it makes you feel better to think Rupert Murdoch is at the help
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Fixed it for you.
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The Party & the Candidate Don't Matter (Score:4, Insightful)
What worries me is the power one man is given without an election. Point me to a conglomerate of "liberal spouting news organizations" run by one man or even one company all spinning the news the same way and I'll be just as critical and upset.
Please do reply to this with an example of 175 editors all working under the same man all coming to the same conclusion about a partisan issue and I'll add them to my list.
Fine, you sit back and take it. I'll bitch about it on Slashdot because I love my free speech.
If you had read that Wikipedia link, you'd notice he has hosted fund raisers for Hillary Clinton. I don't give a rat's ass who the candidate is, if I like them or if I like their party. I just have a problem with him exerting influence through a news dominant stance.
In my eyes, MySpace is just another growth of that iron grasp but apparently you don't agree or care with me about that
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Sales=Votes If we were talking about PBS or the BBC, it would be different, because those outlets are defined by their (theoretical) mandate of neutrality.
Look. If you're going to claim to be a news outlet, you are automatically subject to a "theoretical mandate of neutrality." That's what news is, anything not neutral is supposed to be relegated to the Op-Ed page or equivalent thereof. And, if you paid any attention to some of Murdoch's programming - "fair and balanced" - he does claim to be under such a mandate. Yet he isn't. He (and most other news corporations) violate the public trust of the media by giving them what they want, rather than what they ne
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If you're going to claim to be a news outlet, you are automatically subject to a "theoretical mandate of neutrality." That's what news is, anything not neutral is supposed to be relegated to the Op-Ed page or equivalent thereof. And, if you paid any attention to some of Murdoch's programming - "fair and balanced" - he does claim to be under such a mandate. Yet he isn't.
I made no value judgments about whether Murdoch is right to be so one-sided, I am simply pointing out that Murdoch doesn't have any more power than his customers give to him. Yes, he claims neutrality but does not practice it. But if you remember, there was no such thing as "conservative" media before Murdoch. There were a few talk shows and The National Review, but beyond that all of the major networks and newspapers were at best moderate. Conservatives felt as though they had no voice, and as such
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I'll invite you to check out this link.
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/pearls/archive/
Excuse me? (Score:2)
the right wing media "conspiracy" is anything but silent.
no, there is no "liberal media", but there sure as hell is a conservative one, and they spin like a pulsar.
hell, they turned a petty issue over a border fence into "mexico is continually interfering with our national security".
not to mention their whole smear campaign against gore taking credit for funding internet development, mocking it
Bend over and be my bitch, Dave (Score:2)
Hey, I'm a powerful person, want to bend over and be my bitch? Oh, you don't? Then STFU when others complain. Just because something is the way it is does not mean that's the way it should be.
Do you really think that a small minority of powerful people should be in charge of all our news? You may be happy being spoon-fed all your information from a few biased sources, but the rest of us aren't.
Damn, man, every time I start to think, "th
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Maybe the issue you
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its not about sheeple voting based on their own rationality, when all their bombarded with is right wing propaganda it's a case of garbage in garbage out.
we're supposed to have libel and slander laws in this nation, and every side has an anti defamation arm, and yet i have yet to see, for example, kerry suing the swiftboat astroturfers for their outright fabrication
Not "Going Into" Either (Score:2)
It's easy to miss the corporation for the brands.
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And you use the word "monopoly" very loosely. Now that the Internet is in place there is very little barrier to entry to be a journalist. In other words competition for news outlets is at its peak!
That would be like saying Linus T has a monopoly on Linux because he happens to be heavily involved in the distro market.
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Maybe I'm wrong here, but... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Maybe I'm wrong here, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
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There's some kind of difference between those two options?
Wisdom of the crowds? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Wisdom of the crowds? (Score:4, Funny)
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Remember kids, emo-splats make you look great!
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maybe not the best idea (Score:2, Funny)
The average myspace user says... (Score:4, Funny)
Do you really trust this person to help provide useful news?
Yeah, but who'll see it? (Score:5, Funny)
Sorry! an unexpected error has occurred.
This error has been forwarded to MySpace's technical group.
This is a good time to ROTFL (Score:5, Insightful)
Wisdom of the crowds? When you get a crowd, wisdom is the opposite of what you have. To paraphrase an entertaining little movie, only because I'm too lazy go to look it up properly, a person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals and you know it.
Here on slashdot, supposedly the site for "news for nerds", the only way we reach anything like wisdom (or even correct information) is for a bunch of people to spout off foolishly and then be corrected incorrectly by people who think they're smart, who are finally properly corrected by someone who knows what they're talking about - usually by which time the story has left the front page.
My first guess is that a myspace news will be far, far worse.
I do think that community-developed media is the future of basically all types of media. But the above quote just makes me snicker.
Do I really want the same news feed as my idol? I mean, since I'm a nerd, if I actually had an idol it would probably be someone whose news page would be interesting. But if I were a typical myspacecase, I'd be reading about basketball shoes and ferraris or something.
Re:The paraphrase (Score:2)
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*Breaths slowly to avoid death from laughing*
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The moderation system often does more harm than good. I have frequently had entirely factual comments modded up to +5, Informative, and then a day or two later had several someones come back and mod it down as "overrated" three times. It then gets dropped down to a 2, where people are less likely to read it. So people keeping up with the conversation as it is live will see it, but later people have to ignore
The name of the new service (Score:5, Funny)
And vice versa (Score:2)
List of most frequent stories (Score:5, Funny)
Jessica Simpson...
American Idol...
OMG Ponies!
Oddly enough, it's similar to
Most frequent stories on
Linux is ready for the Desktop!
Ground-breaking new hard-drive capacity!
New, ground-breaking graphics cards!
OMFG Ponies!
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oh boy (Score:1)
Buying stories (Score:1)
Jr. High newspaper with articles by two people running for class president.
Candidate #1 promises if his article gets voted up on MySpace and he wins, he'll extend lunch hour.
Candidate #2 promises if his article gets voted up on MySpace and he wins, he'll cancel finals.
More seriously and more sinisterly, unscrupulous companies can use shill accounts or actual human shills to vote up articles favorable to the company and vote down articles unfavorable to the c
Inflated hopes (Score:5, Interesting)
So not only is user-driven news sources inherently flawed, but as we all know, giving any sort of voice or power to Myspace users just screams OMG PONIES, "OMG NEW SHOES AT ABERCOMBIE" and "People- DO U ACTLY THINK IM HOT?" all over the front page, daily.
browse firehose at black (Score:1)
Back when you could tag firehose items, I routinely tagged them "pressrelease."
Thankfully
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People go to sites like digg and /. because they are looking for news, I wonder how many people go to myspace looking for news?
If they want any kind of voting system to actually work don't they need to fix their little "this profile no longer exists" problems?
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Myspace news... (Score:1)
Being irritated about myspace news would comparable to flaming over the menu at "The Blue Oyster" (Police acadamy fans, stand up), when you know damn well you're not going to step in the door, let alone eat there.
The news will suit the kids who choose it, I guess.
Uh, Murdoch? Holy Grail of News? (Score:1)
That would be NOT choosing wisely...
well... (Score:4, Funny)
Seizures and news at the same time (Score:1)
Isnt' this called (Score:1)
in other news... (Score:1)
Oh, that's great. VXers will love this (Score:1)
Prediction: Next School Shooter MySpace #1 (Score:2)
Heck, some are predicting that the next school shooter(s) will utilize MySpace, YouTube, etc in real-time!
My question is how people will vote
Most people will likely rank such blo
"premiering"? (Score:2)
I detest stupid made-up marketing words. Literacy amongst the masses is bad enough as it is.
-b
yes:"premiering"! (Score:1)
"Wisdom of crowds"? (Score:5, Funny)
Spam (Score:2, Funny)
"tap into the wisdom of the crowds" (Score:1)
Awesome (Score:1)
My "friends" (Score:4, Interesting)
This sounds familiar (Score:1)
Typical story (Score:2, Funny)
Isn't the rest of their site incredibly broken? (Score:3, Funny)
wha!? (Score:1)
Dumb (Score:1)
And the News will be: (Score:1)
It's not a news service... it's a survey duh... (Score:2)
It's just more data collection... pretty good idea as far
Ug vote Og chief (Score:1, Funny)
Ug mark stone ballot for chief "Oog"
Oog mark stone ballot for chief "Oog"
Arg mark stone ballot for chief "Arg"
Oog new chief.
Pre-pre-historic strongman system:
Oog want be cheif.
Arg want be cheif.
Oog fight Arg.
Oog kill Arg.
Oog new chief.
Modern democracy:
Ug mark stone ballot for chief "Oog"
Oog mark stone ballot for chief "Oog"
Arg mark stone ballot for chief "Arg"
Chief Diebold of neighboring tribe count stones.
Arg get 4 stones. Oog get no stones.
Arg new chief.