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OpenBSD 4.0 Pre-orders are Available 163

fuzzyping1 writes "Pre-orders for OpenBSD 4.0 are now available in the online store. Five architectures on three CDs in a soft-shell DVD case. Check out the highlights of OpenBSD 4.0. This new release includes support for many new wireless chipsets, the UltraSPARC III platform, a new load-balancing feature for network trunks, and much, much more."
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OpenBSD 4.0 Pre-orders are Available

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  • Complete with four changes specifically for the VAX architecture. I myself have one or two alphas but why put so much effort into (for example) getting X11 to run on VAX? Its not as if anybody is going to run Gnome or anything. The vax is (probably) equivalent to a 386.
    • Re:VAX (Score:5, Insightful)

      by LurkerXXX ( 667952 ) on Wednesday September 20, 2006 @11:46PM (#16151387)
      My guess? The people who actually have VAX machines and care about them, made the changes. Not some guy who has one or two alphas.

      Lots of other folks wrote new bits that work fine on x86, etc. It's not like the VAX updates were the only ones made. Why complain about people writing additional features for machines they use just because you don't use them?
    • Re:VAX (Score:5, Informative)

      by urlgrey ( 798089 ) * on Thursday September 21, 2006 @12:57AM (#16151596) Homepage
      Aside from the joy of it for those that are so inclined, the main reason for working on other architectures is because it often brings to light subtle errors in code--particularly in the compiler--because of the differences in the hardware's instructions and such.

      In the case of the VAX and Alphas, both out-dated platforms to many people, they've both been quite good at making coding errors surface, so they're very useful for that if nothing else.

      If memory serves in fact, one of the OpenBSD devs, Miod, fixed such an error in the compiler that was picked up because the VAX puked in building X on the same compiler instructions that other platforms were perfectly willing to tolerate.

      In the end it produces a better product for all of us since it can often help developers find and fix bugs--especially the hard-to-find and hard-to-duplicate varities. That's pretty cool.

    • by kwark ( 512736 )
      OpenBSD is the new NetBSD?

      But there is more old hardware in the newly supported list, atleast the
      "New pgt(4) driver for Connexant/Intersil Prism GT Full-MAC IEEE 802.11a/b/g wireless." caught my eye. A wireless card that hasn't been sold for a couple of years (sadly enough).
    • by Alioth ( 221270 )
      The people who are writing for the VAX platform are probably doing it because that's what they enjoy. It's not like there is a tradeoff - they are working on VAX and so not, say, working on feature du jour on i386 - because they have no interest on i386 (or other platforms) they wouldn't be working on it anyway.

      The VAX is a well built older machine which was absolutely awesome in its day, and it's good to see that people still interested in the VAX are keeping at least one new operating system running on th
  • by Craig Davison ( 37723 ) on Wednesday September 20, 2006 @11:30PM (#16151341)
    One thing that bothers me about hardware RAID support in linux is the lack of a single set of management/monitoring tools that will work with every driver. With OpenBSD 4 you can just use sensord.
    OpenBSD doesn't have quite the hardware coverage Linux does in this area, but who wants to use stuff like aacraid anyway when you have to troll the net for closed-source Dell tools to check your array status?
    Anyway, thanks again, OpenBSD team. Good work.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    I'm waiting for the edition with the genuine Corinthian leather DVD case.
  • Preorders (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 20, 2006 @11:35PM (#16151353)
    They like to get a bunch of preorders so the guy burning the DVD's knows whether to go buy a 50 DVD spindle or a 100 DVD spindle.
  • OpenRCS (Score:3, Informative)

    by larry bagina ( 561269 ) on Wednesday September 20, 2006 @11:37PM (#16151359) Journal

    GNU RCS has been replaced with OpenRCS. []

    Interesting. the GNU RCS code is kind of an ugly mess (one reason it's stagnated, one reason it's had so many vulnerabilities). For local stuff, RCS is nice and simple, but I don't know why anyone would use CVS when much better alternatives now exist.

    • by QuantumG ( 50515 )
      I wasn't aware anyone used RCS. Personally I'd rather use bzr or svn, even for local only use.

      Ya know what would absolutely rock? OpenMTA. I recently did a survey [] and there's nothing good with an open license, unless you like Java.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Ed Avis ( 5917 )
        RCS can be quite handy to use for configuration files, so you can have /etc/fstab and /etc/fstab,v. It's also used as a backend for other programs, like CVS (in the early days - CVS still uses RCS format files in its repository but has its own code to handle them) or to provide version history in TWiki.
        • by archen ( 447353 )
          Someone actually meantioned that to me one time and it's been a godsend. Every /etc on all my servers have an RCS directory now. Some say rcs is 'antiquated' but it works well and it takes about 10 minutes to learn most of the functionality. Keeping track of changes is easy to cut corners on config files, but RCS makes it so simple that it's almost silly not just to do a quick checkout after a change.

          I just hope this fairs a bit better than OpenNTP which I was rather dissapointed in. Hopefully DragonFly
          • > I just hope this fairs a bit better than OpenNTP which I was rather dissapointed in. Hopefully
            > DragonFly NTP will work it's way into the FreeBSD ports collection so I can test it out. I've
            > always been rather happy with the utilites Matt Dillon as worked on.

            After OpenBSD 3.9, some code was taken/inspired from Dragonfly and put into OpenNTP. Now
            the accuracy of the time is much better (less than 1 ms for me).
          • by Dan Ost ( 415913 )
            What were your disappointments with openntp?
    • Joris just committed the code to replace GNU RCS with our home grown OpenRCS. This is great news for all the folks that have been enjoying GPL licensed code being removed from the tree.

      My license can beat up your license...
  • BSD Section (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dokebi ( 624663 ) on Wednesday September 20, 2006 @11:44PM (#16151382)
    Why isn't the BSD section no longer listed on the left hand Sections menu? The Slashdot bias against BSD has gone on far too long. Editors, bring back the BSD section!
    • They don't include 'dead' topics like geeks in space [] or apache [], but BSD [] gets more action than backslash []
    • by dghcasp ( 459766 )
      They obviously took it away to make room for backslash...

      And that section is sooooo popular... I mean, there's not enough dupes on /. already; let's make a section where we dupe comments!

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      I've posted it before, but there is a greasemonkey script that puts the bsd section back in at [] Ta da!
  • Where's the new song?! ( []) Usually it comes out before the new release, and I only have an OBSD 3.6 server which I never plan to have to upgrade, so an update to me means a new fun song!

    • by gwk ( 1004182 )
      To commemorate 10 years of OpenBSD the project is also selling an Audio CD with all the release songs from 3.0 through 4.0, also has some cool extras including a bonus track and a 11cm silver-on-clear die-cut wireframe Puffy sticker, for $15. OpenBSD Audio CD []
  • From the description it sounds like an extended version of 802.3ad standard, which is great. But under "trunk" most network admins imagine interface that tags VLANs as per 802.1q. Great feature nevetheless.
    • I don't think I've heard "trunking" being used as "vlan tagging," but 802.1q is available via the vlan interface nonetheless. It's quite simple: just "man ifconfig" and "man vlan". The quality of the documentation, in particular the man pages, in OpenBSD was really refreshing when I started using it after coming from Linux.
  • International Orders (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nighty5 ( 615965 ) on Thursday September 21, 2006 @01:45AM (#16151722)
    Anyone outside the US / Canana know how much to send the CDs? The website doesn't say - and this is even right up to supplying your CC information.....

    I would prefer to know.. even a rough guide how much.... because I've seen cases (on other sites) were the shipping costs outweighs the cost of the product!
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by raffe ( 28595 ) *
      It wasnt very expensive to send it to europe. They send it from belgium to sweden for a few euros. At least this was the case for 3.2...:-D
  • Java, coming soon? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I would love to use OpenBSD for more things, but I can't until I have a solid way to run Java apps on it. gcj is promising, but it won't run my real-world Java apps that I need, like NetBeans and JBoss. Likewise for Apache Harmony, Kaffe, and all the others. I'm hoping that Sun will come through with its promise to open source Java, and that there could be a native-compiled Java 6 for OpenBSD, which would let me switch over to it. Any ideas on this?
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by ( 841449 )
      Linux binary support under OpenBSD is surprisingly good; you might give that a whirl. Just install the port emulators/redhat, execute 'sysctl kern.emul.linux=1', and change /etc/sysctl.conf. Then use a Linux JRE.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by ifrag ( 984323 )

        Linux binary support under OpenBSD is surprisingly good; you might give that a whirl. Just install the port emulators/redhat, execute 'sysctl kern.emul.linux=1', and change /etc/sysctl.conf. Then use a Linux JRE.

        The Linux support is actually so good that I got a dedicated Quake 3 linux server binary running on my OBSD box :)

    • by Geekboy(Wizard) ( 87906 ) <spambox@thea[ ]org ['pt.' in gap]> on Thursday September 21, 2006 @03:29AM (#16151903) Homepage Journal
      java 1.5 is native on openbsd/i386. it works as fine as you can expect java to run.
    • > but it won't run my real-world Java apps that I need, like NetBeans

      It will run real-world apps like Eclipse, though. Since that's all I use Java for, I'm loving it. Native Eclipse!
  • OpenSSH (Score:2, Redundant)

    by hey ( 83763 )
    The OpenSSH improvments should help us all...

    # OpenSSH 4.4:

    * Conditional configuration in sshd_config(5) using the Match directive. This allows some configuration options to be selectively overridden if specific criteria (based on user, group, hostname and/or address) are met.
    * Add support for Diffie-Hellman group exchange key agreement with a final hash of SHA256.
    * Added a ForceCommand directive to sshd_config(5), simila
  • by rsidd ( 6328 ) on Thursday September 21, 2006 @05:12AM (#16152120)
    ...before using Asterix imagery: those people are pretty litigious [].
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      This question already arrised on the misc@ mailing list. Theo's answere, quoted below, sounds quite reasonable to me:
      "Our releases are thematic parodies, specifically permitted by law."
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Can one use the USB version of aDSL modem/router FRITZ!Box Fon under OpenBSD 4.0? The hardware support pages at are not clear to me as to whether one can use this router (even post-installation) or not.
  • Good to see OpenBSD keeping its finger on the pulse with Apache 1.3.29 as part of the package. As I recall this isn't even an up-to-date 1.3.x
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by jazman_777 ( 44742 )
      The new Apache license was unacceptable, so they're not using newer versions with the new license. This is a heavily-patched version.

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