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AppleBerry Predicted? 181

dr_fatty writes "The Globe and Mail is reporting that analyst Peter Misek, who predicted a partnership between Research in Motion and IBM, is now predicting a partnership between Apple and Rim. The predicted result? The AppleBerry. 'Such a deal would have huge merit because each company lacks what the other provides. RIM wants a firm foothold in the consumer market and Apple doesn't have a presence in the booming wireless data sector, he said.'"
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AppleBerry Predicted?

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  • by D4C5CE ( 578304 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:47AM (#15472779)
    ...though I'd probably prefer an e-Paper Psion.
  • by millwall ( 622730 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:48AM (#15472782)
    Peter Misek, the new John Dvorak.
  • Oh no! (Score:4, Funny)

    by llamalicious ( 448215 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:49AM (#15472792) Journal
    Combined with Steve's last name, are we all getting Rim Jobs? /shudders
  • Tasty... (Score:1, Funny)

    Bramble and apple pie... mmm.

    If only they'd also tie up a deal with Custard Research Inc. that would be, well, pretty sweet.
    • But any pie is only as good as the crust. Let's hope that a Pillsbury ifruit is not in the future. Home made crust is always the best.
    • I knew I wasn't the only one who was getting hungry reading about apples and blackberries and saltwater taffy. (note: saltwater taffy may be a figment of the author's vast and uncontrollable imagination)
  • by BadAnalogyGuy ( 945258 ) <> on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:50AM (#15472806)
    Apple's first foray into the mobile handset market was a total flop, but as more operators get turned onto the idea that they don't have to make back their entire investment in every single user download, Apple's technology will become more and more useful and desired in cellular phones. RIM and their Blackberry text messenger will soon be moot as more phones become more sophisticated and ultimately replace the Blackberry in the consumer market.

    It's not a winning strategy for Apple, so I don't see why they would do it.
    • by jschul ( 794880 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:11PM (#15473031)
      Apple Hasn't had a first foray into the mobile handset market. The only way they've been involved is lending their itunes software to run on motorola phones. They didnt' design any hardware, or the phone software. Only the itunes on the phone software the launches when you hit a button on the phone. And, as many have speculated, I believe there was some alterior motive in that move. At the same conference that the phone was announced, apple stomped all over the announcement with the intro of the Nano. Jobs knew the phones would be a flop, we just don't know what the whole strategy was yet.
  • Dammit! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Trigun ( 685027 ) <evil&evilempire,ath,cx> on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:50AM (#15472809)
    And I just bought my blackberry!

    Oh well, enough people think that I'm gay anyways, no need to advertise.

    It would be nice to have more power strapped to my hip though. The blackberry is a neat toy, but nowhere near the tricorder that they made it out to be.
    • Re:Dammit! (Score:5, Funny)

      by bombadillo ( 706765 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:55PM (#15473366)
      Interesting that you managed to string these sentences together...

      Oh well, enough people think that I'm gay anyways, no need to advertise. It would be nice to have more power strapped to my hip though.
    • It would be nice to have more power strapped to my hip though.

      Speaking of sex, it's nice to know that Jean-Louis Gassée hasn't strayed from his habit of making titillating comments:

      "I want to see the two CEOs of RIM and [Apple CEO Steve] Jobs working together," he said. "The thought of this ménage à trois is absolutely hilarious."

      Gassée [] is seriously one of the most quotable guys in the business...
    • Which BlackBerry did you get? I recently got a new 8700g to replace my old 7230 and I think it IS the tricorder I hoped it would be. With the EDGE network and the horsepower inside I love that damn thing (my wife is jealous!)
    • It would be nice to have more power strapped to my hip though.

      You're not looking for an Apple, you're looking for a Smith & Wesson.

  • I think that iBerry is a much more likely title than AppleBerry, since just about everything else Apple is i (iPod, iTunes, iYouNameIt...).
  • Just think of the color-based opportunities. RIM and UPS [] could get together on a Dingleberry []...
  • I want to see Mr Kipling get involved.
  • by phillymjs ( 234426 ) <> on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:54AM (#15472854) Homepage Journal
    First of all, "AppleBerry" sounds dumb, I would have gone with "MacBerry."

    But anyway, Apple is clearly interested in getting back into the enterprise market, and a major sticking point right now is the lack of official Blackberry support from RIM. And yeah, the lack of Apple groupware, too, but my company has been having success rolling out Kerio MailServer on OS X Servers-- at least to clients who don't want/have Blackberries.

    I couldn't care less about running iTunes on the Blackberry, but we need a Mac version of Blackberry Enterprise Server like nobody's business.
  • by TubeSteak ( 669689 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @11:55AM (#15472858) Journal
    They're going to take a Black Berry, change the housing a little bit, make it a pearly white color, and call it the White Berry.

    Then, in 6 months, Apple is going to release the exact same product, but in black. Apple will charge an extra $150 and call it the... wait for it... Black Berry.

    That my friends, is what Apple brings to the partnership with RIM. The secret of how to charge $150 more for the same product, but in black. []
    • As we all learned in business class -- brand is key! This could actually work for Apple -- no long-standing company (no, the Sony Treo doesn't count, that's a piece of crap) has a good foothold in the market (BlackBerry is king but they are n00bs). Apple expanding its product line to include a mobile device would probably work. People are genuinely interested in Apple once again... when I walked by the local Apple store the other day, it was one of the most packed stores in the mall. I can see people sh
  • Appleberry Predicted?

    Since when to you question whether something was predicted? Either someone thought about it and told people, or he didn't.

    Baseless predictions do get old fast, though. I think the Tommy Boy take would go something like this:

    I could tade a dump in a box and stamp it Predicted, but then all you'd have is a predicted piece of crap
  • Totally obvious (Score:1, Insightful)

    by t_allardyce ( 48447 )
    This is so obvious, Apple will produce a mobile phone within 3 years, it will pretty much replace the iPod, it will do pretty much what Symbian phones do today except with several gigs of memory, an Apple OS and a few of the other things Apple is famous for, this is is pretty much fact. Blackberry, Motorola? - its all irrelevant the only thing we care is: when will it be released, how much will it cost and what will it look like?
  • Yugh (Score:5, Funny)

    by suv4x4 ( 956391 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:00PM (#15472908)
    The predicted result? The AppleBerry.

    Keep in mind genetically modified food may be dangerous for your health.

    • by njh ( 24312 )
      Actually, Appleberries exist already [] - I've got one growing on my front fence.
      • Actually, Appleberries exist already [] - I've got one growing on my front fence.

        That's ok, just don't eat it.

        Or touch it.

        Or go near it.
        • by njh ( 24312 )
          Actually, I have. They taste like (you'll never guess this!) Apples. Traditional aboriginal food (which generally means 'yuck, don't eat', but in this case they are very nice).
  • Marketing (Score:2, Funny)

    by Billosaur ( 927319 ) *

    AppleBerry - the wholesome goodness of Apple mixed with the mind-numbing addiction of BlackBerry! Goes great with iPod as a part of this nutritious breakfast!

    It better be called something else, and no I don't mean iBerry, BlackPod, or any other combination of the two names. Of course, they could revive the "Newton" moniker...

    • "It better be called something else, and no I don't mean iBerry, BlackPod, or any other combination of the two names. Of course, they could revive the "Newton" moniker..."

      Yes, but Berry Newtons flopped. All I ever see on the shelves now are regular Fig Newtons.
  • by qtrader ( 979613 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:05PM (#15472963)
    I doubt this is in the works. Apple will more likely release their own product as they would have ultimate control of the product and the resulting user experience. I came across an article today titled "Apple's End-To-End Model Leads to Innovation and User Experience" You can find it at -leads-to-innovation-and-user-experience.html/ []
  • I do not think apple will fall for it. Whenever apple trusted a hardware co on whom it had no control,it has failed. Recall ROCKR with iTunes.
    S.Jobs might pitch for a new phone which is branded Apple with hardware sourced by Apple. They always think BIG. No way I can see them being a part player for RIM.
  • by davemabe ( 105354 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:09PM (#15473005) Homepage
    There's been a lot of speculation that RIM will be coming out with a BlackBerry with a camera in the near future, too. However, the current 8700 has lots of multimedia features already (support for video, etc) and there's talk of an impending software release unlocking even more capabilities (like more frames per second).

    With that always on data connection and most users subscribing to an unlimited data plan, it's easy to imagine ways where as iTunes enabled BlackBerry would solve a lot of Apple's iPhone problems (OTA podcasting anyone?)

    I've always thought of both of these companies as user interface kings in their respective categories. I'd bet that they've at least had some discussions about the possibilities of such an agreement.

    Dave Mabe
    Shameless plug: Author of BlackBerry Hacks []
    • A Blackberry with a camera would be a disaster. Today if you work at a company which has a strict security policy, you can't have a camera of any kind -- including a cameraphone. Because no Blackberry phone has a camera, simply holding a Blackberry signals that no, you don't have a cameraphone. Unless they're going after the youth IM market (as Cingular has tried and failed with the Ogo) I see no value in a Blackberry cameraphone.

      iTunes on a Blackberry might be cool, though iTunes for Mac/PC still doesn'
      • RIM often polls its large corporate customers asking what they need and what they'd like to see in future devices. One of the most compelling features of the BlackBerry is the centralized management that corporate customers get with the BES. Through policies, administrators can turn on and off certain features selectively by user or by group.

        This is one of the main reasons that BlackBerry has been so popular in large corporations.

        It will be no different with future versions of the device - they are slow t
    • I expect RIM will soon produce a miniaturized blackberry that fits on a key chain and plugs directly into a USB port with no cable.

      Make way for (drum roll, please) ... the DONGLEBERRY!
    • I really would not believe that blackberry would think of adding a camera. After all this is not a machine for a snaphappy moms or curios teens. This is a pro machine for people who are interested in work. A camera would just serve to limit the use of the machine, especially when one considers the truly wireless nature.

      Lets take two example. A salesperson goes into a high tech research lab, perhpas biomed, and pulls out the blackberry. The lab manager notices the camera. Sales lost. A lawyer is in

  • Dvorak? (Score:2, Funny)

    by the packrat ( 721656 )
    Are we absolutely sure that this 'Peter Misek' isn't just Dvorak in a wig?
  • Blackberry's greatest feature IMHO is it's simplicity and streamlined function. I would not care for any more bells on the device than they already have. It's a tool rather than a toy and that's what makes it so effective. I would hate to have to help my CEO burn his music collection
  • Appleberry

    I honestly thought this was a genetic engineering story when I first saw it. Was imagining something that looked like a bunch of grapes that tasted like apples. Actually much more interesing idea than the real story as far as I can see.


    OT: (LOVE the italics on the new CSS but there's too much line spacing guys)
  • I'm amazed the discussion has gotten this far without any jokes about the RIM-Jobs partnership....
  • This isn't FUD (as in Microsoft funding anti-linux studies), this is just an unsubstantiated rumor -- one which doesn't instill fear.

    Here are my tags: apple rim !fud rumor appleberry
  • Haven't you heard? AMD is going to buy out ATI based on the "PC food chain" (load of shit). ATIs been doing more for cell phone designs (true) so it totally makes sense for them to buy RIM (I'm making this up). And once they have RIM it would be totally synergistic for them to partner to with Apple on a new product, like wow stock market price! Could you just imagine, you'd have a Crackberry with iTunes, a spiffy graphics card, and a 64-bit CPU! How much more synergistic could you get?!

    Really, these Wa
  • Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sbunting ( 954964 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:53PM (#15473348)
    The killer function of Blackberry is wireless synchronization of e-mail, calendar, contacts etc.. It talks to your corporate mail server, what's on your desktop is irrelevant. If RIM wants to make inroads to the consumer market they should be talking with consumer e-mail providers like Yahoo, MSN, Google etc. to setup wireless (push) synching services. The suggestion that consumer=Apple is stupid. More consumers own PCs. I love my Mac, but I don't need the Blackberry to work with it. I need my Blackberry to do wireless synching with my Yahoo account.
  • by thinduke ( 150173 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @12:55PM (#15473361) Homepage
    What's with all those predictions recently on Slashdot? Is that really a worthwhile content? Enough to be posted on Slashdot? Rumours for nerds, stuff that might be...

    You might as well post some Nostradamus' quatrain and pretend you've seen the future of Apple in it.
  • by Infernal Device ( 865066 ) on Monday June 05, 2006 @01:15PM (#15473519)
    The person who stands to gain the most is Misek and whomever he has been hired to shill for. I'm willing to bet there was a jump in stock prices for RIM when Misek gave his prophesy from whatever Olympus he bestrides. Which was the purpose of the announcement - to generate some action in an otherwise dull tech market.

    When you get down to it, Apple doesn't need RIM - RIM needs Apple to help fight off whatever two-bit patent griefer decides to sue them next.
  • there must be something in the air. First the Yahoo-Ebay thing (which turned out to be real), then the AMD-ATI thing, and now an Apple-RIM thing? What's next? A MS-Nokia deal?

    Let's speculate like it's 1999!
  • I think they would call it the MacBerry. shortly followed by MacBerryPro. :)

  • RIM = BlackBerry
    Steve Jobs = Jobs
    Apple = Fruit
    Berry = Fruit

    RIM + Steve Jobs = Rim Job
    RIM + Apple = Dingle Berry
  • I'd rather it be combined with a treo, but Blackberry is fine too.

    Seriously, it can't be that hard. Shit, I'm about 2 weeks from buying a nano and just duct taping it to the back of my treo.

    I can't imagine how neat an Appleified treo with a wheel control grafted onto the back of it would be.
    • I'd rather have a cellphone with FEWER features.

      But if you're going to put a battery sucking iPod in a phone... do it right.

      I can't imagine how neat an Appleified treo with a wheel control grafted onto the back of it would be.

      Not a treo...

      I much preferred the Qualcomm PDQ to the treo. NORMAL cellphone dialing pad for cellphone stuff, and it flipped open to give you a regular Palm, not a trimmed down one with the graffiti area replaced by an unusably small keyboard.

      Then you could put the Apple click wheel on
      • I'd rather have a cellphone with FEWER features.

        I hear they have those now.

        I much preferred the Qualcomm PDQ to the treo. NORMAL cellphone dialing pad for cellphone stuff, and it flipped open to give you a regular Palm, not a trimmed down one with the graffiti area replaced by an unusably small keyboard.

        That was the one where the dialpad was basically a cover that sat on top of the touchscreen and the buttons simply pushed down onto the screen, right? That was a nice design and I'd welcome it on the ne

        • The treo keyboard is far from unusable for me, and I've got pretty fat fingers. It -looks- bad, I'll give you that, but it is in fact very functional.

          I've used thumb keyboards... and not just on the Treo: I bought one for my Visor. What kills them for me is that they make me pay too much attention to the process. Yes, they're faster... even when I get going I can't graffiti as fast as I can thumb... but I can graffiti faster than I can write and I can do it without looking at the screen. And that more than
  • Great, now they just need to expand their IPod business by merging with P.I.E. [] and then get into the Real Estate software business by merging with A La Mode []. Appleberry Pie a la mode. Now that's a company I could sink my teeth into.

    sorry. ok bye.

  • Step 1: Write article about Apple
    Step 2: Add RIM to article about Apple
    Step 3: PROFIT when SlashDot posts to front-page

  • I just bought a Treo 700p because it can act like a wireless modem for my new MacBook. Trouble is, the Mac support is (no surprise) subpar compared to Windows. So I cannot tether with USB, only with Bluetooth, which means I will get limited data transfer rates. A wireless inroad by Apple would make such ubiquitous networking for road warriors really cool. I still bought the $500 treo, by the way, because it's so cool to be able to google something up from literally anywhere.
  • RIM specialize in corporate, wireless, proprietary, personal access. RIM the phone is bolted-on accessory.

    APPLE specialize in personal, portable, proprietary, corporate access. MAC the HCI is bolted-on accessory.

    Neither need each other. BUT... Apple has WebObjects which is underutilized in database access. AND... RIM have no platform to serve data to BlackBerry's.

    RIM could re-invent their category integrating corporate data access by *Berry's via WebObject brokerage over 3G networks. That Jobs would be

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