Add 8GB of Storage to Your Cell Phone 138
gd writes "MobileTechNews is reporting that a company called US modular has put out a device that taps into your existing mobile phones microSD or Tflash slot to add up to 8GB of storage. The Stik&Stor adds a memory chip to the back side of the battery pack and only costs $199 to add 8GB to your music phone."
I see trouble ahead (Score:5, Insightful)
"Where did I put that Elton John Album? On my IPod? No... On my mobile? No... On my works mobile? No... On my PC? No... On my IPAQ? No... oh bugger it, I'll just buy another electronic copy."
Glad I stuck with LP's
Re:I see trouble ahead (Score:5, Funny)
I don't see your problem though: Most mobile phones use flashcards for their storage, and until now I have not yet encountered one which was protected against using any of my images/sounds/music/videos.
Re:I see trouble ahead (Score:1)
"Where did I put that Elton John Album? On my IPod? No... On my mobile? No... On my works mobile? No... On my PC? No... On my IPAQ? No... oh bugger it, I'll just buy another electronic copy."
Glad I stuck with LP's
"In the garbage?" Yes.
There you go, problem solved.
Re:I see trouble ahead (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe Elton John was a bad example
Re:I see trouble ahead (Score:2)
Re:I see trouble ahead (Score:2)
Because they are "sampling" it to verify how bad it is. Uh, yeah, that's it. That doesn't explain the people that store hundreds of gigs of audio though. As much as I don't like the copyright cartels, I don't think this is right either. The people that don't like the mainstream stuff can always buy independent music, there's even plenty of good indie music that has tracks available free and legal, so there's really li
Lame (Score:2, Insightful)
Most people get their cell phones cheap (or free) on various plans because people are CHEAP. they won't want to spend a couple of hundred bucks for extra memory when they likely already have an MP3 player, PDA, etc.
This thing will fail miserably.
You're full of it. (Score:5, Insightful)
People don't want to carry 15 different devices when one can do the job of all good enough. Why is it some
My V635 is a perfectly capable MP3 player and also a very decent phone. Why should I have to carry around a whole other device to listen to a bit of music one in awhile. Simmilarly, the 1.3 MP camera is "good enough" for what I use it for, quick snapshots.
Re:You're full of it. (Score:1)
Want to bet a $20 Amazon Gift Certificate?
How do we determine if it's a failure or a hit, though...
Re:You're full of it. (Score:2)
My a950 is a perfectly capable camera (for snapshots) and a decent phone, but I'll be damned if I can figure out why I'd want to pay even more just to be able to use the MP3 player capabilities. No, they don't bundle the cable, no I'm not paying airtime + >$1 per song to download them. It's stupid enough that the phone doesn't include any normal human being type ringtones.
Well blame your provider, not the phone. (Score:2)
And my phone (and all the ones this thing is for) has a removeable transflash card I can just plug in my PC. Also my phone came with the cable - and I can set it so that when I plug it into the PC it shows up as a USB flash drive.
Re:Well blame your provider, not the phone. (Score:2)
Yeah. That's how I transferred the MP3's from the lifedrive into the transflash card. I would have used my PC except my PC doesn't currently have an SD slot. As for the software, yeah, I have a copy of Media Player 10 too. Hello? The MP3's weren't recognized by the phone, and I don't think Verizon was sitting there saying "nope, we didn't authorize these".
Re:Well blame your provider, not the phone. (Score:2)
Also try re-naming them to something somple, like File.mp3, see if they show then. There may be filesystem limitations.
Also make sure they're in the right folder.
Re:Well blame your provider, not the phone. (Score:1)
And here we reach the root of the issue. j/k
I have this argument with my fiance all the time: she is on Verizon and has a great connection all of the time. I am on Cingular and have a great connection most of the time. She is not able to download her own pictures from the phone without going through Verizon or voiding the warranty to use a USB cable and "hack" into it(it's not really hacking or cracking, but just using a different piece of software to analyze all the phone's
New A950's only recognize WMA (Score:2)
Since the Verizon outlet I bought it at was inside a Circuit City, I picked up a 256MB microSD card and a USB SD card reader for $20 a piece so I could have my music on the phone.
However, after formatting the card as FAT32 and inserting it into the phone so its directory structure was created and then filling it up with my MP3s, I was annoyed to see the phone's "MP3 Maestro" didnt recognize a single of my songs. After lot
Re:You're full of it. (Score:2)
Re:Lame (Score:1)
Youre busted son, turn in your Ti-85, and all your caffinated gum. If we ever see your like around /. again we'll hax0r you. Seriously. This turns your (well, apparently My) cell phone into an ipod nano.
One word (Score:2)
Re:42 words (Score:2)
Re:42 words (Score:1)
What kind of LOSER would want to watch porn on an inch-and-a-half screen? Other than, of course, those majestic shitheads who proclaim loudly and consistently that they love porn and then expect me to be impressed because they're rebelling against societal acceptability.
Not me, because I don't have a phone. But I know plenty of so-called "majestic shitheads" who like nothing more than seeing porn on their phones, and spend lots of money downloading it and/or sending it on to
Re:One word (Score:2)
Re:One word (Score:2)
What features of Perl 6 are you waiting for? Many are already available for Perl 5 on the CPAN [cpan.org].
[OT] Yes I know it's OT... your sig (Score:2)
Microdrives for 4/8GB (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Microdrives for 4/8GB (Score:1)
I'd be a bit hesitant to add a microdrive to my cell phone.
I'd be a little hesitant to add a microwave to my cell phone too. I mean, all of that raditation so close to my head, not to mention the added weight....huh? What's that you say?
um...nevermind.
Re:RTFM (Score:2)
How big ? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:How big ? (Score:1)
Re:How big ? (Score:1)
Nice! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Nice! (Score:2)
But it adds an ugly 'wart' on your phone (Score:3, Insightful)
The picture in the article does not truly represent how big the patch is - a better example is on the mfr's page here [usmodular.com]
Re:But it adds an ugly 'wart' on your phone (Score:2)
Just looking at that picture makes me think that they would have been better off designing a new battery cover & building their memory card into the cover*.
It would solve a lot of the aesthetic issues and would give you a more durable design. It may or may not still be a bit ugly, but IMHO it would be a much more elegant solution.
*with the memory card being removable of course
Re:But it adds an ugly 'wart' on your phone (Score:1)
Re:But it adds an ugly 'wart' on your phone (Score:1)
8 Gig - Now I can run .... (Score:2)
[wait for it...]
Windows Vista !!
Bill Gates will be so pleased.Re:8 Gig - Now I can run .... (Score:1)
Re:8 Gig - Now I can run .... (Score:1)
hrm (Score:3, Funny)
Sigh. Now if only I had someone to call.
Re:hrm (Score:2)
However, you are right, a 10 digit phone number would use 5 bytes.. beginner's luck, I suppose.
Re:hrm (Score:1)
Re:hrm (Score:2)
Actually a great idea! - The global phone book. (Score:1, Insightful)
Forget calling information, when you could store all the white pages of all major US cities,
and even add in the yellow page ads to display on the little color screen...
Great Idea!
not really logical... (Score:1)
WHY? (Score:4, Insightful)
If I was a supposed industry leader in the cell phone market, I would announce that my phones would NEVER have more then a few megs of storage in them. Here is why!
Cell phones are ALL ABOUT SUBSCRIPTION and PAY PER USE services. The only reason why you have a camera on your cell phone is so you either pay a monthly service charge to allow x number of pictures/kilobytes to be transmitted for free, OR you pay $.10 - $.20 for each picture sent. Same with text messaging, same with video on a cell phone, same with music on a cell phone. These features are not added to benefit mankind, but to drive up your cell phone bills and make the phone companies more money.
I.e. the cellphone is a money making device. It makes money from its very existence, you can't use or even have a cell phone without spending money.
This is unlike mp3 players, PDA's, computers, etc, where you buy the device, it comes with X amount of storage, and you fill the device with hopefully legal content that you can listen or watch at your convenience without paying a dime extra.
So, when someone decides to turn a cellphone into a ubiquitous multimedia player with ample storage, why should ANY cell phone maker rush to implement these feature? Why should a cellphone company allow the user to store gigabytes of high resolution pictures so they can return home to their PC and download the pictures FOR FREE to their computer. Why should a cellphone company allow people to listen to hours of music or watch hours of video FOR FREE. Why should a cellphone company allow ANY feature to be used for free on a cellphone.
Instead, the future of cellphone multimedia lies squarely in subscription services. You can stream music from the cellphone network, FOR A PRICE. Stream pictures taken to an online storage facility, FOR A PRICE. Stream video and data services FOR A PRICE. Even for those people that want to buy a song online with a cellphone, buying the music only puts the song into some online storage container that is streamed to your cellphone, for a price of course.
I can't see cellphone companies embracing technology that effectively ruins their subscription based market. Allowing users to store gigabytes of pictures, music, video, or text might get people to buy the cell phone, but cellular service providers won't want to carry a phone that doesn't force the end user to buy into some subscription or pay-per-use service.
Unlike digital multimedia players, cell phones are tied to a network. Given sufficient bandwidth, constant "always-on" music and video and data streaming should be possible, if for a price. I think cell companies are going to want to implement these subscription based features rather then slapping 8gb of hard drive into a cellphone so the end user doesn't spend a dime on ring tones, games, music, video, and other subscription services because they can find content on bit torrent or eDonkey.
In the end, perhaps only PDA based cellphones will get the boost in storage, but I can't see the average cell phone coming with gigabytes of storage, it just doesn't make sense.
Re:WHY? (Score:2)
So, when someone decides to turn a cellphone into a ubiquitous multimedia player with ample storage, why should ANY cell phone maker rush to implement these feature? Why should a cellphone company allow the user to store gigabytes of high resolution pictures so they can return home to their PC and download the pictures FOR FREE to their computer. Why should a cellphone company allow people to listen to hours of music or watch hours of video FOR FREE. Why should a cellphone company allow ANY feature to be u
Re:WHY? (Score:4, Insightful)
Last I checked, my manufacture of my cell phone is not the same as my cell phone service provider. Sure, it says SprintPCS on the phone, but it's just painted on by Toshiba.
Does Toshiba cell phone service? Not to my knowledge. Do they make money me directly when I download ring tones? Not directly. The only money they made is when I paid $50 for the phone and Sprint gave them a rebte cut of about $150 when I signed a two year contract.
Even T-Mobile and Verizon do not make their phones. You've got Erikson, Nokia, Samsung, Keyocera, and various other companies who make the phones. They make the hard ware and in theory you can get a branded phone to work on another service provider if you get the correct ID car put it in. (not that they are going to give you hell about it and the first 3 sales reps you talk to know nothing about this but they can do it)
So... Sure the cell phone makers make money by selling cheap ass phones to the providers who in turn give money directly to the manufactures, but the cell phone makers are competing with each other and in order to remain competative they are having to put more features on their phones.
The providers may not like and ask if they can make it so you have to go through them to get content out of the box, but there are ways of transfering content to and from your cell phone through 3rd party sources.
In fact, with the introduction of VoIP wifi phones, I'd say we'll stop seeing content lock in as hard core as it is now.
Re:WHY? (Score:1)
I know what you are saying, how this makes a lot of business sense, but this trend toward giving the consumer less and less control has to stop.
Re:WHY? (Score:1, Informative)
Maybe you should do a little bit better job of
Your name wouldn't be Ed Whitacre now would it? (Score:1)
And we give a flying fuck about the phone company because...?
My phone allows me to do all
Re:WHY? (Score:2)
You're c
Re:WHY? (Score:2)
And as a customer in the cell phone market (no hypotheticals required), I get sick of paying bills, and will buy a cellphone with some storage space so I can just copy over my music once and for all.
I have they money, you (as a hypothetical player in the cell phone market) wan
OMG ANOTHER VERIZON CUSTOMER!! (Score:1)
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Re:WHY? (Score:1)
This is something google gets right by providing pop access for gmail; barriers to exit are barriers to entry. The contract base
Re:WHY? (Score:1)
Re:WHY? (Score:2)
The secret, of course, is that the iPod magic pixie dust is the same as the
Re:WHY? (Score:2)
Have you looked at some of the phones that are coming out from Sony-Ericsson or Nokia? Those that don't come will 4 Gb internal memory, all come with some removable memory. I have an easier time filling up my Nokia N70
Re:WHY? (Score:2)
Is this the future ? (Score:1)
Re:Is this the future ? (Score:2)
steve
Backwards (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd like to have my phone be a constant or voice activated recorder. I have my phone on me at all times, it has a microphone, why not have it provide me a 'cockpit voice recorder' of sorts for life? No more guessing exactly what my wife told me to do, or having to write down phone numbers.
Generation 1, your phone just records MP3s of life as it happens to you. If anything interesting happens during the day, you save the file on your computer.
Generation 2, it meta overlays GPS data and is automatically stored as part of your 'diary'. You store it in an encrypted location so it can't be used against you unless you choose to release it, and you have a perfect alibi showing what you said and where you were.
Generation 3, combine voice processing to index everything spoken around you into a searchable form, recognize phone numbers, voices, etc, and create a full digital assistant. At some point around here, it can also store a digital video feed from any cameras you or your personal equipment might have that's synchronized with everything.
Generation 4, it hunts down Sarah Conner.
Everytime someone puts a bunch of storage into something, someone else says "what's the use?" And human nature being what it is, some other asshole decides to invent something cool to use that storage/capabillity for just so they can give the finger to the first person.
Re:Backwards (Score:3, Funny)
Oh man I so badly want one of these now. Now I will have PROOF that she didn't ask me to take out the trash two hours ago.
Sadly she will now have proof of all the stupid crap that I have blurted out , and can now nag me about it without even saying anything by playing it over and over.
Re:Backwards (Score:2)
Re:Backwards (Score:2)
Not constant (it doesn't have the memory for that), probably not voice activated (unless you meant 'activated via a voice command'), but my cell already does voice recording.
My mp3 player does voice-activated recording though.
Re:Backwards (Score:3, Interesting)
That's eight days of recorded audio.
Relatedly: 86,400 seconds in a day * 96kbit/sec = 8,294,400 kbits per day, or 0.988769531 gigabytes per day.
Definitely within the realm of feasibility.
Re:Backwards (Score:2)
The argument about a "documented life" revolves around trust of the encryption mechanism and keys, and trust of the authorities allowed to use those keys. But the latter is an oxymoron for most as long as those authorities are human.
That's
Re:Backwards (Score:2)
Vaporware Indicator: Falsified images (Score:5, Interesting)
If this thing is real, why'd they have to photoshop an image of it?
Aye, strange. (Score:2)
Re:Aye, strange. (Score:2)
However, the pages lists a 1, 2, and 4GB model and respective price points.
The only other question I have is: What would I use that space for? I/O on those phones is dog slow (USB1) and the ROKR in particular is limited to 100 songs anyway. The camera certainly isn't the issue--even with a full load of songs you can take over 1,000 pictures wi
Re:Vaporware Indicator: Falsified images (Score:1)
Re:Vaporware Indicator: Falsified images (Score:1)
Looks Fragile (Score:3, Insightful)
However, just look at the flimsy ribbon connecting it, imagine the poor quality adhesive that will rip the bugger off when my phone is in the same pocket as my keys. Nah, I'll wait until they get it out of prototype phase.
Radical! (Score:4, Funny)
how much usable, how reliable (Score:3, Interesting)
It seems that this might be the same case. First, the connection seems a bit fragile. Second, the current specificatins for some motoralo phone already include a memeory slot, but the maximum memory is listed at 256MB even though the current maximum memory module is 512K. This indicates that phones may have a less than GB limit, perhpas they do not include 32 bit addressing.
Re:how much usable, how reliable (Score:2)
I have Motorola A1000 (Score:1)
It needed to be said. (Score:1)
Yay for trademarks (Score:2)
OK, so they do it because it's easier to get a trademark on "Stik&Stor". But it's a disturbing trend. Handi Paks, Intel's unpronouncable "VIIV"... every new product or technology has to have a stupid name now. In Nero, they don't say "we put in a buffer so you don't get underruns", they say "UlraBuffer!!!!!!!!!!!" How times have changed.
But I need an 8g SD card (Score:2)
WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously not (Score:5, Informative)
There is no DRM issue whatsoever. You can plug a transflash card into any SD reader to download or upload whatever the hell you want on it. It's no different than CF or SD or XD or any other memory card, there is no DRM involved.
The parent poster is pretty ignorant to this technology. Personally I can't wait to get one of these - the highest storage transflash card right now (I am aware of) is only 512 MB. 8GB would rock.
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:4, Interesting)
Those were the "any" MP3's you refer to above.
They aren't seen by my phone. So clearly, your claims of technical ignorance and that "any" phone can play "any" MP3 are far overblown.
Obviously, there probably needs to be some other additional update to the phone for MP3's, but since Samsung doesn't see fit to include a USB cable with their phone, and Verizon does see fit to neuter the Bluetooth capabilities of all their phones, I'm not in a position to do it "the right way" to find out how to do it "my way".
Am I bitching about Verizon? Not really. This is a CELLPHONE for me, not an MP3 player, not anything else. And from that perspective, Verizon is the best of my options where I am at. But I was curious, and find it somewhat ironic that they market all the amazing capabilities of these phones when in fact they *aren't* as simple as you want to claim, much less how they market them. Unless of course you *like* paying three times for your music.
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:4, Interesting)
They aren't seen by my phone. So clearly, your claims of technical ignorance and that "any" phone can play "any" MP3 are far overblown.
Are they VBR MP3s? If so can your phone handle those?
Are they using extended filename syour phone can't reconize?
Do you have your primary memory device even set to your TF card?
There's a plethora of reasons these may not show up, none of which have to do with DRM. If you're talking about the a950, I can assure you it can play MP3s fine. You're doing something incorrect.
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:5, Informative)
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:1)
So Motorola are pretty good at that sort of thing at the moment. Which is nice, because I've got Katamari tunes for ringtones.
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:2)
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:1)
http://www.howardforums.com/ [howardforums.com]
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en& [google.com]
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:2)
My e815 is now an e815m and plays anything I want it too, within reason. Mp3's video, etc.
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:1)
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:2)
If you are paranoid, back up your unedited SEEM first, and if you need service, restore to that point before taking it in.
Now, before you say it... if you can boot it, odds are you can restore it. If you can't boot it, they are not going to either when you take it in.
I have returned edited phones under warranty 3x (com
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:2)
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:1)
I can see problems occuring in the future but for now I don't know much they can do.
I have 2 x 512mb TF cards, I know there is a 1gb comming out early march, but I'd love to have a full 8gb that would be awesome, not just for media but as a file store for work or software.
Re:WTF? Do you own one of these phones? Obviously (Score:1)
My Imate sp3 runs the Microsoft Smartphone OS, it too can play mp3and 3gp, plus mpeg, wmv movie files, with no DRM, I've watched movies on it on budget airlines with no onboard entertainment (with the phone in flight mode of course). The thing I love about the Imate sp3 is that its quite small... almost the same size as my nokia 6100.
I too currently have a 512Meg MiniSD, I've be
JUST CALLS? (Score:2)
The world's moving towards "multi functional", baby! How else could you sell those NEW and IMPROVED goodies on various items.
Buy the new cell, it now has a camera! No, buy this, it has an MP3 player! Buy this console, you can watch videos on it, not only play!
If you made a cell that just, well, makes calls, how do you want to market that? You
Re:JUST CALLS? (Score:2)
I think you mispelled Nokia N-Gage.
Re:JUST CALLS? (Score:2, Informative)
Yes, and the PSP phone will have:
1. a cost that's twice as much as the other cell phones
2. Downloadable games, at $29.95 each.
3. A proprietary memory card slot that won't have readers/writers available for it
4. A compilcated sync system where you have to give funny names to upload video files, ringtones
5. firmware upgrades every 2 months to prevent homebrewing
6. Dial a wrong number? You just bricked your psp-phone.
Re:Last Accessory (Score:2)
... on my Moto 810... (Score:2)
No.....
I have to grab the damn thing off my belt clip and look at it.
Damn idiots.
(And while it might be a clever hack to add a time service phone number called "time", that's a horribly inefficient waste of bandwidth just to avoid having to grab the phone).
1994 - $800 for 16meg ram. (Score:2)
$800 those days, was 2.5weeks work, today thats more than $3000.
I would never spend $3000 today for even a whole pc or laptop.
OK