
Underground 'Cold War City' For Sale 242
Hogwash McFly writes "A huge underground complex that was built as a nuclear refuge for the British Prime Minister in the 1950s has been put on the market. Code-named Burlington, the bunker now has a population of only four maintenance workers, yet sprawls over 240 acres and accommodates 60 miles of roads. Underground power stations supply energy for 100,000 street lamps and amenities include a railway station and a pub called the Rose and Crown. Among ideas suggested for the £5,000,000 bunker include a data centre, wine cellar, rave club or fifties theme park. It is not clear whether a tank for keeping laser-equipped sharks is included, however."
Very cool! (Score:4, Funny)
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This has just what I've been looking for in a secret lair.
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Sealand (Score:2)
me: Look over there, it's Seaman!
girls: Oooo, where!?
Sorry, totally ripped from South Park.
Re:Very cool! (Score:5, Informative)
me too (Score:5, Funny)
Keep it. It's still needed. (Score:3, Interesting)
Or sell it to modern billionaires who are more important than the British Prime Minister.
After all, it's not like the 10000 Hydrogen bombs and 1000 ICBMs actually went away. They're still around. Which means that an underground shelter might still be a wise precaution.
Better yet, turn it into
Re:Keep it. It's still needed. (Score:5, Funny)
Not only would it have tons of books (literally), it would also act as a time capsule when the zombies come.
Not needed: Bombs arrive quicker now. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not needed: Bombs arrive quicker now. (Score:3, Funny)
It could still be useful, you would just have to go running to it at the slightest hint of trouble. Just like what our Vice President does all the time on this side of the pond.
Re:Keep it. It's still needed. (Score:2)
You're right on your evaluation of power in Britain, but you miss one thing - if there is a nuclear strike, or even just civil unrest - anything that offers protection will be taken by the military. Money has value because it is backed by guns.
Incidentally, the Corsham site is well known and there is a good book on it here [amazon.co.uk] for anyone who is interested in this.
A third thing (Score:5, Funny)
Or... you could put a house on top of the main entrance and have your mom live in the house while you live in the "basement".
Geez, if you're going to post on
Re:Very cool! (Score:5, Interesting)
Imagine going on a weekend trip with your significant other and/or a group of mates. When you get to the bunker you are given a change of 50s clothes and assigned rooms. You are told that the year is sometime in the 60s and the that nuclear strikes have devastated England, forcing many underground. The country is at war, and some of our brave men are fighting on the Russian front. Reports of troop advancements are broadcast over the sound system, and even the 'Prime Minister', who is living in a secured section of the bunker, could broadcast morale-boosting speeches during your stay there.
There could be a cinema showing old movies, and short propaganda films could even be appended. The article states that there is already a pub there - build a few more, perhaps even a 50s nightclub (cabaret?) and similar amenities. Basically, there would be the normal level entertainment found at any holiday camp, but with a twist - it's a different time/dimension and you are 'living there', wishing that the troops fighting alongside the Americans will come home safely, even though it's all fictional. Actors could summon people at random to perform 'important tasks' like tending to wounded soldiers fresh off a plane or manning a radio station.
It could be like a LARP, but more mainstream and far less geeky, i.e. a theme-park that tells you it's not a theme-park.
temporal price displacement, too ? (Score:2)
If you truly respects this price scale, you can consider me your first landlord 8)
Well... (Score:2)
Re:Very cool! (Score:4, Interesting)
Think about Murder Mysteries, all sorts of people go on them and spend a weekend in a mansion pretending to be oil tycoons or hollywood actresses and getting involved in some huge charade. This is similar; everybody could be given a card detailing their own 'mission' and perhaps even their persona. Hell, you don't even have to have any participation whatsoever and just let people do their own thing and check out the facilities.
All it is, in essence, is a themed setting like the Aztec and Underwater zones you find in any theme-park.
At least in my idea there's regular entertainment like movies, cabaret and DRINKING DRINKING DRINKING. Furthermore, the British were reknowned for their war spirit and cohesion for the common cause in WW2, and this just gives the newer generation a taste of unity in cheering for Blighty, even if they know it's only tongue-in-cheek child's play.
Canada has something like that. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Canada has something like that. (Score:5, Informative)
Good research.
http://www.diefenbunker.ca/ [diefenbunker.ca]
Re:Canada has something like that. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Canada has something like that. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Canada has something like that. (Score:5, Interesting)
Quite an interesting tour - when the military decided they didn't need it anymore, they initially put it up for sale. One of the only bidders was the Hell's angels - it would have been fun to watch the RCMP try to conduct a drug raid on a facility designed to resist a nuclear attack.
Eventually the local townsfolk in Carp Ontario decided it would make an interesting museum, and I was one of the first to tour it.
Re:Canada has something like that. (Score:4, Interesting)
It's an interesting place indeed... built in the Cold War under Prime Minister Diefenbaker (hence the name Diefenbunker [diefenbunker.ca]).
From the outside, it looks like an unassuming shed, but inside is a blast tunnel that leads into the hillside and down to a four-storey complex beneath. First stop: the radiation decontamination chambers. Last stop: the gift shop, which offers official Cold War-era federal government publications—in English and French—about how to build a bomb shelter at home. Along the way are a room where federal leaders would meet, a room for the Prime Minister (cot-sized only—no spuose allowed), a room for the Governor General, backup headquarters of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, a sizeable cafeteria, bunk beds (each shared by three people in eight-hour shifts), a filtration system for extracting radioactive particles from surface air, etc.. The transmitters are located something like 14 kilometres away to prevent locating the bunker through triangulation.
At the lowest level is the Bank of Canada vault that would store gold in the event of a disaster (radioactive gold is not so valuable); it has the biggest vault door I've ever seen, and has a rectangular hallway around it with a mirror in each corner so a guard standing in one place could see all the way around.
It's an interesting piece of history that may yet come in handy if the Chinese Communist Party deploys biological or nuclear weapons [theepochtimes.com].
Hydro Setup (Score:5, Funny)
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Seattle Chronic Clan
Zone Dancer
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too many ads (Score:5, Funny)
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He's going to need it! (Score:3, Funny)
For the übergeek. (Score:5, Funny)
a Debunked story (Score:2, Interesting)
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Diefenbunker (Score:4, Informative)
I don't know about anyone else... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I don't know about anyone else... (Score:5, Funny)
On second thought, nevermind.
Re:I don't know about anyone else... (Score:2)
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Huh? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Huh? (Score:2)
Haven't you heard of the Underground Railroad?
Formerly inhabited by Thatcher's unknown geek son (Score:5, Funny)
He is noted to have posted on many USENET boards, "oh yeah? Well you should see MY mom's basement, where I live. It's soooo much cooler than yours."
Re:Formerly inhabited by Thatcher's unknown geek s (Score:2)
I can just see it now. "Lightning bolt!... Lightning bolt!... Lightning bolt!"
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Hmmm (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's now comprised of 8 McDonalds and 11 Starbucks.
Re:Hmmm (Score:5, Insightful)
Probably a very deep basement directly under the Parliment building with tunnels to the same under 10 Downing St and Windsor castle. The problem with bunkers out in the countryside is getting to the thing when a nuclear missile submarine can wipe out the city with about five minute's notice. Any modern equivalent can't be further away than a run down the hall to an express elevator.
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indeed (Score:5, Informative)
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Probably has to do with Geographic reasons (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Hmmm (Score:2)
Re:Hmmm - Beam me down ? (Score:3, Funny)
Bullshit (Score:5, Informative)
60 miles of 30 foot wide road covers 218 acres.
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That's 417 street lamps per acre, or one for every three feet of your 60 miles of road.
not necessarily (Score:5, Informative)
umm...yeah, you see, in the middle of the american heartland, in the south, southwest, and west, 30 foot wide roads are pretty common place. However, in places that are really cramped for space (New England and old England, for example) you have roads that are noticably less wide. Some one way roads in my neck of the woods (Boston) are barely wide enough to accomodate 1-way traffic. The street on which I live, on which it is permitted to park on both sides of the street mind you, is about 12 feet across. There are even some "roads" in Boston's oldest neighborhoods that really are just narrow alleys that could never accomodate a car.
By road here, they could mean a series of very narrow one way roads and well-paved footpaths. Or maybe everyone in the underground city was supposed to be riding a vespa (a very logical idea, I'd think), or something similar, in which case all of one's roads could essentially be well-paved footpaths. In fact, in such a situation, electric scooters would be the ideal vehicle (low-power requirements, non-polluting, not very loud).
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Re:Bullshit (Score:3, Interesting)
You do realize this entire location is underground? One lamp every 3 feet on the roads would probably be good enough to keep the road visible, especially if they're sodium vapor (vapour, in the spirit of the article) lamps. Seeing as there are lots of tunnels, there's probably 1 lamp per 6' on each side.
Re:Bullshit (Score:5, Informative)
About 15 years ago, the place was bought for a nominal sum (5 million pounds is a hell of a lot more than they bought it for!) by a family who had the idea of creating a tourist attraction down there. They didn't do too well, but while they were in business we did manage to get down there. It was barely an 'attraction', but incredibly interesting, nontheless.
It's a truly amazing place. A lot of the infrastructure was decommissioned, so we had to use hand lamps - it was pretty spooky since it's obviously completely dark down there, and your head lamp doesn't do a whole lot to penetrate into the deeper bays and tunnels. Some of the major tunnels are indeed 30ft wide, and the lights are actually low wattage bulbs strung along the way.
One funny thing is that they stored a *whole lot* of ammunition down there just prior to D-day (I believe), and the only fire management equipment was a bucket of sand under each light - every few feet. I guess they figured that if there was a problem, all the fire extinguishers in the world wouldn't deal with it!
The there are a few things I remember particularly: The built-in power plant, air conditioning system (three huge stations with 30 foot fans) and the indentations left in the concrete from the bigger ammunition.
Apparently the train station intersects with the Box Tunnel outside Bath, Wiltshire. Every time I travelled from London to Bath I used to look out of the window of the train to see if I could see it, but no luck unfortunately. Apparently it's possible to find old quarry workings which lead you into the complex, but that sounds a bit dicey to me!
Here's an article about it - I'm not sure if this was the original one, but it might give you a flavour of what it's like down there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/the_exchange/conne
First a mine, then a WW2 ammo dump (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:First a mine, then a WW2 ammo dump (Score:3, Informative)
Because a normal civilized war (whatever that is) is usually not started with a nuclear strike... the potential risk would have been clear for several hours or even days.
The reason for decommission is not the 4 min. timeframe caused by the ICBMs and subs, it is the "decommission" of the potential enemy. This kind of instal
Re:First a mine, then a WW2 ammo dump (Score:5, Informative)
-It was a sandstone quarry, not a mine. The sandstone that was used to build my house (and many others in bath and bristol) came from it. The way the sandstone deposits were the quarry was at the same height as the London-Bristol railway tunnel, so they built a special stop off the tunnel to get the rock and transport it to bristol, bath and london, which, back in 1850, pwas the main long haul transport.
-It just so happened that before WWII the air force grabbed it to be an arms store from conventional air attacks; it was used as that and later there were underground airplane factories nearby.
-when the cold war came along, it became the secret seat of government, though not that secret after a while, which, with better precision weapon delivery, meant it was not that useful.
Post cold war, a lot of the quarry has been abandoned. the local cavers know this and pop down the old shafts sometimes. Security used to rely on above-ground troops with guns, but as that has been rolled back, things are more accessible. Even then, the main burlington "citadel" is something they have always been scared of going to.
I think it survived till now as an underground seat-of-government is often useful, even outside a full-blown east-west nuclear exchange, where the place would last only a few minutes into the conflice. For example, after 9/11 dick cheney went off to the US equivalent to run the country (!), but I guess eventually the operational costs are too steep.
interestingly, the area has very good transport (railway, nearby motorway) and communications infrastructure. A lot of the main telecoms lines go through those railway tunnels, probably because the govt. told them to.
They should make a movie (Score:4, Interesting)
More like A Boy And His Dog (1975) Harlan Ellison (Score:2)
Photos of this bunker 'Burlington' (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Photos of this bunker 'Burlington' (Score:5, Interesting)
Corsham (about 3 miles from me at the moment) is actually home to quite a few massive bunker complexes, including Spring Quarry, Box Tunnel, Monks Park Quarry, Rudloe Manor , Monkton Farleigh and they are all interconnected while maintained (or not) as seperate facilities. Good site for this [www.mod.uk].
Employees? Sentry? (Score:2)
WELCOME to Cold War City (population: 4).
I hope one of those employees is the barkeep.
The only sentry is a garden gnome outside one of the entrances.
Dave: "'E's got gno-o-omes"
Gaz: "Aye, 'e bloody well would have."
Cold War Bunkers aren't selling well (Score:5, Interesting)
Despite some more or less reasonable offers it never got sold as the potential buyers were not willing to accept certain obligations, such as equipping it with a new structural fire protection. It is now sealed and flooded.
Too bad, actually
Alex
Re:Cold War Bunkers aren't selling well (Score:2)
-ben
Re:Cold War Bunkers aren't selling well (Score:2, Funny)
Except it wasn't a bunker in the first place (Score:2)
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Sweet, let's make it a cave diving training school.
I searched Google maps... (Score:5, Funny)
Half-Life (Score:5, Funny)
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We've got one too (Score:5, Interesting)
In the plains east of Denver there are a number of abandoned Titan missile silos. They were built under land leased from farmers and ranchers, and when the missiles and classified equipment were removed the government returned the structures to the landowners. For many years, teenagers snuck into them at night to toke up and hook up, and the owners had little success trying to block the entrances.
Occasionally a developer would announce a plan to turn them into energy-saving underground homes, but none of those schemes got very far...by now, I understand most of the owners have sprung for a load of Ready-Mix to close the entrances for good.
rj
Re:We've got one too (Score:2)
Some actually are completed houses now.
Re:We've got one too (Score:3, Interesting)
Articel Update (Score:5, Funny)
SOLD
I hear some company by the name of, The Umbrella Corporation, just bought it.
bring the whole family... (Score:3, Funny)
purpose of these bunkers (Score:2, Funny)
Of course only essential people were allowed--cabinet ministers, and attractive secretaries, and a few maintenance people. This way, the politicians could restart civilization with their superior genes and the young ladies who worked in their office.
Re:purpose of these bunkers (Score:5, Funny)
Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
Ambassador de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.
Image tour of Burlington bunker (Score:5, Informative)
Relocation (Score:5, Funny)
Lets collect the money (Score:5, Interesting)
We could do whatever we want with it. Put in a thick internet pipe and have some fun. Lan parties, new secure location for the
Re:Lets collect the money (Score:2, Informative)
might take some work, tho'... [wanadoo-members.co.uk]
I can't believe.. (Score:5, Informative)
"Hundreds of swivel chairs delivered in 1959 are still unpacked."
Frickin' rotating chairs!
But does it come with... (Score:2)
The U.S. has a hotel outside Washington that had an underground bunker that was kept secret for many years. It was decommissioned a few years ago. The hotel on top of it continues to operate.
In case anyone's interested, (Score:4, Informative)
Re:In case anyone's interested, (Score:4, Informative)
http://bathstonequarries.mysite.wanadoo-members.c
Neverland East (Score:3, Funny)
Paintball (Score:5, Insightful)
No wonder it's so hard... (Score:4, Funny)
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Imagine a Beowulf Cluster.... (Score:2)
Make sure to have a light, or you will be likely eaten by a grue.
Two thoughts: (Score:3, Interesting)
Second, think for a few moments: Great Britain, while a major world power, is hardly going to have been the only nation to think of this sort of thing. Moreover, I'd be a bit surprised if they built the biggest or even the nicest of the underground Cold-War cities. I'm not saying that the US did: Most likely some OPEC Sheik created something to make the brain stagger in the middle of some unknown desert.
Point is, how many of these things exist? How fancy do they get?
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