Rate Your IM Popularity 332
aicrules writes "The internet has long been a safe haven, and thus a play-field-leveling force, for the less socially adept to create a network of friends to share in fun, games, and conversation. However, it appears as if the influence of the social ladder is creeping its way in. While it will certainly lend itself to the abuse that any online scoring system faces, AimFight is the new place where people can go to check their popularity against others." From the article: "Your popularity is based on who has you on their buddy list. There's a complicated algorithm at work here. Your score is measured to the third degree, in the sense of the 'six degrees of separation' game that seeks to link anybody on Earth to any other person through no more than five friends. Say a couple of your friends, A and B, have you on their buddy lists. A, who has three people on her buddy list, doesn't add much to your score. That's because she doesn't have as many people on her buddy list as does B, who has 16. Your friend A is clearly not as well-connected as your friend B. Not unlike life."
Without the silly flash interface (Score:5, Informative)
Just plug in the screen names.
Re:Without the silly flash interface (Score:2)
Sounds like an ad-ridden dupe to me.
The best part, hands-down: (Score:3, Funny)
What can fighting really prove? Using a complicated algorithm, AIM® Fight crawls through the depths of the Internet to answer the all-important question that plagues us all blah blah
Yee-ikes, traversing a tree is wicked hard. I'm glad I never had to learn to do anything like that in...oh, say..Comp Sci 1.
ICQ (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Without the silly flash interface (Score:2)
Quality over quantity, man.
Re:Without the silly flash interface (Score:2)
Re:Quick Perl hack (Score:4, Funny)
Missing option: No-gottum IM (Score:2, Insightful)
So if we're supposed to be getting away from this, what's with the Friends thing on /. ??
Re:Missing option: No-gottum IM (Score:3, Funny)
Strangely, I still seem to be able to get laid whenever I want.
Hmm... Seems that my Geek Card is expired. Not sure I'm going to renew.
Re:Missing option: No-gottum IM (Score:5, Funny)
You just choose not to, right?
Re:Missing option: No-gottum IM (Score:2)
wives and cousins dont count... unless they're 2nd cousins...
Re:Missing option: No-gottum IM (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Missing option: No-gottum IM (Score:2)
*looks over at his empty friends list on /.*
Oh, that thing.
why is this under hardware? (Score:3, Interesting)
highest score i've seen so far is in the 20,000 range.
Re:why is this under hardware? (Score:2)
Re:why is this under hardware? (Score:2)
"aol" has a score of 65161 and a rank of 143491, which means there are a lot more screen names more popular than it.
Now, what screen name is number 1?
Re:why is this under hardware? (Score:2)
Re:why is this under hardware? (Score:3, Funny)
(Insert Tired Joke #2522 here)
Re:why is this under hardware? (Score:2)
I re-activated my account this morning and it ucks to be at 0...
Re:why is this under hardware? (Score:2)
Still no friends (Score:5, Funny)
The real winners (Score:5, Interesting)
Why, the zombie hackers of course. I imagine that their ICQ buddy lists must be light-years long.
Re:The real winners (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The real winners (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:The real winners (Score:5, Funny)
Sweet, just like High School!
Re:The real winners (Score:2)
Re:The real winners (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The real winners (Score:2)
It's a) a clever hack and b) fun.
Re:The real winners (Score:2)
Re:The real winners (Score:2)
OK (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:OK (Score:2)
Re:OK (Score:2)
Ummmm- the advertisers targeting 13 year olds.... The "tweens" are a huge demographic for advertisers, so the site lords can laugh all the way to the bank...
Could I be really popular if I allowed every female buddy who contacts me unsolicited from Asia/Europe to join my buddy list?
Re:OK (Score:2)
Maybe people who aren't cynical, boring assholes?
Jesus, some of you guys really need to lighten up. This is an office time-killer, that's all. I've sent it around to a few people I used to work with and still have on my IM list and it amused us for five minutes or so. What's the friggin' harm?
btw, I suck. I'm at 4,195. Every single person on my buddy list beats me by about five to one. Do I care? No, but it was f
Only works for AIM of course (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Only works for AIM of course (Score:2)
You expected nerds to be popular???
Well yeah it only works for AIM (Score:2)
As far as I know, AIM is the last IM client you can't spam members of. That's probably the real reason behind this.
I used to use ICQ until the ability to leave messages waiting spawned the worst spam ever on an IM client.
I've used AIM since 98 or 99. Know what the total number of unsolicited IMs I've received to date is?
0
Re:Well yeah it only works for AIM (Score:2)
Funny, that's one of the things I really LOVE about ICQ and YIM. And, btw, i've also received zero unsolicited IMs. ON YIM.
No, I suspect ICQ's downfall was probably the UIN system. Is it easier to write a script that guesses a load of screennames to fire off ads to, or just use the value of an incrementing counter?
Re:Well yeah it only works for AIM (Score:2)
After six years or so, I've finally forgotten mine. I remember "2067"...and then parts of my SSN start creeping in.
Re:Only works for AIM of course (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure ICQ and AIM are more or less the same now. You can log into just about any AIM client with your ICQ number as the screenname, and the same password. You can add ICQ people to your AIM buddy list and AIM people to your ICQ list. You can compare two ICQ numbers using that AIMFight tool, so I assume it does follow the list of buddy connections for both networks when adding up the numbers.
Re:Only works for AIM of course (Score:2)
Re:Only works for AIM of course (Score:3, Interesting)
Now, if you just want to be an elitist and advocate a better protocol, feel free. But I would suggest you stop advocating ICQ and start advocating Jabber.
Re:Only works for AIM of course (Score:2)
Re:Only works for AIM of course (Score:2)
People pick their IM client based on who they know. If their friends are on MSN, they'll be there too.
Clients like Kopete, Gaim and Trillian allow connecting to several at once, so at work I have ICQ and the office Jabber server setup in Kopete. Many others use these features to talk to MSN, ICQ and AOL people wit
I don't have any. (Score:5, Funny)
AmISnotOrNot ?
Well that was unexpected (Score:5, Funny)
I'm incredibly popular by this measure, and one of the jerks who tormented me is a virtual unknown!
Karma, it can be a bitch.
Nobody expects (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Well that was unexpected (Score:3, Insightful)
Hmph. (Score:2)
Re:Hmph. (Score:2)
Tell me about the fucking golf shoes!!
This sounds really cool... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This sounds really cool... (Score:2, Interesting)
I did a little search on my accounts and compared them to each other. I was most interested in the account I've had for about seven years that AOL shut down out of nowhere for no reason with no explanation (and they wouldn't help unless I became an AOL subscriber).
My main account these days is around 3,000 on that scale.
The account I've had for seven years, but haven't been able to use for almost two years now, was 23,000 on that scale.
Jus
Defeating the purpose (Score:2)
On the other hand, with the internet becoming nearly ubiquitous, it's hard to keep out the trends of real life social stratum now that everybody's on.
Oh well. I guess I go back to being a hermit
Nerds! (Score:4, Funny)
Now would you like fries with that?
Quality (Score:3, Informative)
The summer that never ended.. (Score:4, Interesting)
Ugh. More & more 'tweeners that don't know squat about computers except how to click & install Napster and AIM.
I'm saddened at what the Internet has become.
Re:The summer that never ended.. (Score:2)
Re:The summer that never ended.. (Score:2)
BTW, have you use garageband.com at all for band stuff? They're pretty cool too.
Re:The summer that never ended.. (Score:2)
I remember Napster. Wasn't that used to trade music or something a few years ago?
Re:The summer that never ended.. (Score:3, Funny)
screenname auction (Score:2, Interesting)
but I'm thinking with a score of 18245, I should sell it on eBay instead
Oh I get, Slashdot changed their format,,,, (Score:5, Funny)
Old News (Score:2)
AIM popularity, not IM (Score:2, Informative)
Complex algorithm? (Score:2)
Random nonsense (Score:3, Funny)
apple (6293) vs orange (7389)
coke (3830) vs pepsi (4274)
snoopy (10653) vs garfield (3791)
and finally...
bush (2884) vs freedom (1422)
bush vs iraq (1241)
bush vs democracy (3)
and most telling of all
bush vs decency (0)
Algorithms (Score:4, Funny)
There's a complicated algorithm at work here.
Translation: "We're not really sure how we got it to work. Basically we just randomly fiddled with things until we got an acceptable output." Much like the time-test C programming technique of adding/removing * and & to pointers until it works.
Isn't that kind of backwards...? (Score:2, Interesting)
It seems to me that A should add more to my score than B does, because A is more selective as to whom she considers her friend.
It's like being A-listed (pun intended).
Try It (Score:2)
Worklists make you popular (Score:4, Interesting)
Should we be impressed? (Score:2)
Big deal. What if my only contact list for my IM was Linus Torvalds, Bruce Perens, ESR and Richard Stallman [which, it isn't =]?
I also wonder how many people really want their full contact web used for such things -- maybe they expected it to be private or something.
BS? (Score:2)
I wonder if... (Score:2)
Score calculation hidden... (Score:2)
That is truly weird. I swear I only ever, ever IM with my wife. Just so she won't have to bug the secretary here at work, really. And yet, my score is over a thousand. I must be in the buddy list of some seriously indescriminate folks. Like spambots or something...
My wife has
Damn (Score:2)
Can't this be hacked? (Score:2)
Javaaimbot vs. Infocombot !!! (Score:2)
171,494 to 157,090
Although, I've never gotten either to work.
Buddyzoo? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Buddyzoo? (Score:2)
Odd... (Score:2)
The algorithm must take into buddy back-listing, too.
I checked my current screen name against my previous screen name. My previous name (which I haven't used in YEARS) beat my current one... even though my current name has all the buddies my old list had, plus tons of new ones. The thing is, many of those names are people I haven't chatted with in years, so they probably don't have my current handle in their list...
otherwise, this result makes little sense.
AIM Fight Golf, anyone? (Score:2)
That was mildly entertaining...
Briefly...
Oh, well, back to work.
Re:Hardware? (Score:2)
Re:Hardware? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:How? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:How? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How? (Score:2)
BUT... couldn't you use this to find out if you're on somebodies list? Run a fight against somebody and get their score. Then sign off AIM and run the fight again to see if their score went down. Repeat a couple times to verify its you that affected their score. Note: I have not personally tried this... yet.
Re:How? (Score:2)
Buddy lists are stored on the main AIM server, so it probably doesn't matter if anybody is signed in or not. You are still on peoples lists and people are still on your list, even if your computer is off.
Re:How? (Score:2)
Who made AIM Fight?
Two AIM programmers with a little bit too much free time on their hands. They're both mild-mannered, soft-spoken, and nonviolent people. Go figure.
Please mod parents down
Re:How? (Score:2)
Spam solved.
Re:Direct link to AIM database? (Score:2)
Re:isn't that scopring reverse? (Score:2)
Re:I liked this game better when it was called... (Score:3, Interesting)
An interesting note on BuddyZoo and degrees of separation -- it was created by one of the creators of Synapse [synapseai.com], the other co-creator being the creator of thefacebook.com [thefacebook.com], with whom I worked on a small project several years ago.
Re:Privacy implications? (Score:2)
Re:Screennames?? (Score:2)
AIM screennames are unique strings, while ICQ has unique numbers. You can enter ICQ numbers in the AIMFight tool it looks like, but entering a string would be looking for the AIM screenname. AIM and ICQ are basically the same network now, and since the unique ID for ICQ is a number, most AIM clients only show that number as your screenname, ignoring the nickname you can attach to your ICQ number.
Re:"Social Ladder"? (Score:3, Interesting)
IM has the advantage of being slightly more immediate than email, yet can be freely ignored if you're busy with something else. When you're concentrating on something important and someone sends an IM, you can just hit ESC and close the window. That's a bit more difficult to do with a ring
Re:"Social Ladder"? (Score:2)
E-mail is nice for longer messages that are important.
IM is nice for short messages and/or short conversations.
Telephone is nice for urgent message and/or long detailed conversations.
Perhaps you're the non "normal-ish" person for failing to see how IM
Re:"Social Ladder"? (Score:2, Informative)
In fact the 'popular' people generally have way more contacts and seem to get im'd nonstop all day.
other duke matches (Score:2)
porn: 2043 / Christianity: 32
good: 8902 / evil: 10238
georgewbush: 15423 / johnkerry: 4999
*sigh*
Re:It seems to me... (Score:2)