What Games Do Women Play? 193
wikinerd writes "BBC recently published the results of an Elspa white paper on women in gaming, revealing that women prefer RPG, adventures, easy driving sims, puzzles, Tetris, and life simulations like The Sims. I suppose that the Slashdot crowd knows much more about this topic than Elspa, so I ask you: What games do women like most and are they experienced players? What would be the difference if your opponent in a game is male or female? How does the gender of other gamers or chatters affect your on-line behavior, especially when the physical distance means you may never really meet face-to-face."
easy! (Score:5, Insightful)
Mind.
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Gee (Score:2)
What next, the covetous jew? Fuck, grow up.
Re:easy! (Score:2)
There, and I don't even know your sex. Feel better?
Re:easy! (Score:3, Insightful)
If women want to work with computers, they'll pursue a computer field. If they want to play videogames, they'll play videogames. The games they pick will be whatever interests them. I just don't give a fuck.
Please, please, PLEASE -- you're rammi
Re:easy! (Score:2)
Re:easy! (Score:2, Insightful)
The first game to sell 3.5 billion copies will be one for women in which the goal is to manipulate hapless "nice guys" into doing your bidding, without givin' it up.
Women? (Score:2, Funny)
Good thing she doesn't read Slashdot
Re:Women? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Women? (Score:2)
Move out of your Mom's basement and you might not have a problem.
That would require finding a full-time job. How can a recent college graduate in the United States make himself or herself appear to be a better candidate for a position than the best Indian consultant?
Re:Women? (Score:2)
Re:Women? (Score:2)
Only if you've learned braille.
Re:Women? (Score:5, Funny)
On the PS2 (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, maybe not so much playing, but she likes participating.
RPG? Puzzles? Tetris? The Sims? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:RPG? Puzzles? Tetris? The Sims? (Score:2)
Hey, baby, wanna hook up, link together and play a game..?
=)
Re:RPG? Puzzles? Tetris? The Sims? (Score:1)
REZ! (Score:5, Funny)
Not another... (Score:4, Informative)
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/01
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/30
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/08
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/28
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/23
Re:Not another... (Score:4, Informative)
Keep up the good work, editors.
Re:Not another... (Score:1)
As always, UK:Resistance says it best - Sorry love, women are shit at Tekken [ukresistance.co.uk]. Why I hate Wimmin in Gaming [thetriforce.com] comes a close second too.
Here's a thought - maybe more women would get into gaming if people desperate to sell games didn't keep on and on about how women are this huge market waiting to explode....
Re:Not another... (Score:2)
My girlfriend likes to play... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:My girlfriend likes to play... (Score:2)
Lemme tell ya, there is absolutely nothing more fun than fighting your girlfriend to the death in PVP arena!
World of Warcraft (Score:3, Insightful)
A) It's a role-playing game, and there is significant investment in the advancement of your character. (Chicks dig that.
B) Although it is pretty action-ey, it's not such a twitch game that those without years of video game conditioning are put off.
C)
World of Warcraft (pt 2) (Score:2)
G) The fact that you can play it together.
My dear wife and I don't always play together nowadays, but we often do -- especially when we were first starting out.
Re:My girlfriend likes to play... (Score:2)
The similarity I see is that they're all old. Where I got bored of Animal Crossing after a couple months (which is actually a long time for me) she's been playing it fairly regularly for over a year. And Dungeon Keeper, she's not only been playing the same game for 7+ years, it has no skirmish mode so she's been playing the exact same levels.
That's the main difference I see, that in a lot of ways makes female gamers less
Shit, that's simple... (Score:2, Funny)
Ahh yes (Score:5, Funny)
I suppose that the Slashdot crowd knows much more about this topic than Elspa
Of course. When you need information about women, the first place you should turn is the experts on Slashdot :)
Re:Ahh yes (Score:1)
They play games like... (Score:2, Insightful)
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You've not noticed my new haircut so I'm going to sulk.
Well, you made no comment when I shaved this morning.
It was some obscure anniversary like when we first met today and you forgot so I'm not going to talk to you.
Oh, dammit! That means my car's due for a service.
Why did you hesitate when I asked if I look fat?
Because you're fat and I didn't want to insult you.
It's that time of the month and I'm not in the mood for games
I'll disappear for a couple of days a
Re:They play games like... (Score:5, Funny)
a happy female will reduce your blood pressure in many ways. trust me
or even better... (Score:1)
Re:They play games like... (Score:2)
I'll see your commenting on her hair, and raise you commenting on her shoes...
Evolved preferences (Score:4, Insightful)
Gals evolved better socializing, nurturing and gathering skills. They have pre-wired pathways to enjoy social or not-so-violent questing games.
The biological reward pathway for guys is instantaneous, owing to the immediate success/failure of a fight-or-flight situation.
The biological reward pathway for gals is more gradual, accumulating more for repeatedly successful socializing, nurturing or gathering.
Guys will get an immediate payoff for playing games they're pre-wired for. Gals will need to play for some time to accumulate reward. So for guys, games are more addictive in the same way that injected drugs are more addictive than the same drugs swallowed - there is a much sharper "spike" in their reward system. For this simple, evolved biological reason, games will continue to be more attractive to guys, and guys will therefore continue to define the games market.
It is also a greater challenge to create a game that addresses the socializing, nurturing and gathering reward system of women, since fight-or-flight situations require only an immediate danger to be overcome, while creating a social environment with embedded, accumulating rewards for interaction, nurturing and gathering is a much more complicated proposition.
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Same goes for women - in a world where starvation comes once a year, women who are more willing to sacrifice to nurture their brood are more likely to pass on this ability, since their brood is more likely to survive.
It's not a matter of "tradition" or "assumed roles". It's biology. The same survival pressures that selected musculature in men and enlarged mammaries and wide hips in women gave rise to many brain and behaviorial differences.
I also apologise to the men and women who read /., for the obsequious, fawning PC BS that attempts to hide the differences between the sexes, as if such differences are somehow ugly.
Re:Evolved preferences (Score:2)
Don't forget that men and women are the same species (we're not ants: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/ 0 3/1711204&tid=14 [slashdot.org]).
Almost any evolutionary pressure felt by a specific gender will be felt for the entire species.
The only true differences between the sexes are small ones (a couple hormones at key points in time). Although t
Re:Evolved preferences (Score:5, Insightful)
Part of the root question was what turns girls off gaming and specific chat groups. I think all you have to do is read the above mentioned modded comments to understand.
As for the biology of gaming. Gaming I highly doubt has even increased the capability of gentelment to breed or decreased the breeding capability of females. Therefore there would be no shift according to gaming in the near future. For fast motor or social skills - depending on the roles within society... everyone could really benift (breeding wise) from all of the skills you named and not just the males or the females. There have been articles on /. refuting your arguement with facts, which I noticed the root arguement lacked alot of.
There are men who breed with force and men who breed with wit/intelligence or pretty words.
Success of young by the ability of one of the parents to provide food doesn't eliminate the female in the provider role. I'm not sure what happened in the cave man days, but I doubt it was the female just swept the cave. There wasn't alot of housework back then :P Most of it was food, shelter etc. related. Either or both parents. Whatever. Trying to undo the sex roles that were established for the caveman days by men in the days were declaired when the female orgasm was unknown and women were thought not to have enough of a brain to participate in business or government is irrelevant.
Today we see inheritance patterns. We notice that speed and strength are not only passed from the father, but from the mother as well. This inheritance isn't direct with the X or Y, but mixed. Because my mother is a 98 pound 5'2" weaker female and my father is 5'10" and very muscular doesn't mean my twin brother is strong and I am weak. Such is the same with speed and olympic runners. Yes body type does seem to play a role, but until you study finger speed on the keyboard or mouse clicking ability (which so far say that women are better in those categories), you are using bad information. Just saying biology a few times in your argument and using a formal presentation style doens't make you an expert. It just makes you and uneducated, opinionated, sad, little person.
Lastly, I was doing a purely sex realted argument. Women are quite different from eachother and those willing to take a survey about games may slant your data. :( It would be nice to think that many girls like RPGs, but I haven't found that yet. I could discuss what I like and what trends I've noticed, but I'd really only written to smack this bad argument down and cool my head about how caddy and unfriendly an atmosphere slashdot becomes when people bring up women.
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Perhaps you could redeem yourself with objective evidence? For instance, if you were to discover that the majority of female players on WoW did not have any night-elf female characters on their accounts; that might be compelling.
If I read between the lines correctly you are the exception rather than the rule and know it, but hate to admit it. Don't worry, y
Re:Evolved preferences (Score:2)
Hope you won't consider it too unfriendly of me to point out that "catty" isn't spelled with double "D"s.
At least I didn't go for the cheap pun.
Re:Evolved preferences (Score:2)
Men were the hunters. Women (and the young) were the gatherers. Women provided the vast majority of the diet since the bushes didn't move and were pretty reliable about producing fruit/veggies. Men brought home the occasional deer/elk/mammoth, which provided a huge nutrition boost (so they kept hunting instead of having both sexes gather).
As such, there are many that claim the differences between the s
Nice theory. Shame that it's false, though (Score:2)
Let's start with the beginning. It started with a small-ish fruit eating ape. Note that there's a difference between eating fruit and eating leaves. Practically any mammal can digest fruit and meat, but extracting the protein from leaves requires either the specialized digestive tract of a herbivore, or cooking them at high enough temperatures. This particular ape hadn't yet invented fire a
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Enemy Territory is my friend's addiction (Score:2)
I would post the full URI but activision assumes one has Flash and I don't.
she's a top engineer and can easily play 6 hours straight
odd assumptions... (Score:1, Funny)
Why would anyone ever suppose that Slashdotters know about women?
Re:odd assumptions... (Score:2)
Adventure games (Score:5, Interesting)
FWIW, my wife only ever wished to play Lucas Arts -styled adventure games. ie. Atlantis, Monkey Island I&II, DOTT, Sam'n'Max. She is willing to look while other play some platform games, but not 3D-shooters. AFAIK she doesn't look much when I play NWN either, though FF5/FF9 seemed to interest her from looking-me-play point of view.
My mother liked to play MarioBros 1 and 3 on NES. She hadn't had console for a long time, but I suspect she'd still like them. Oh yes, she liked Vexed and Bejeweled very much when she had Palm. I think she'd like adventure games too, but her english isn't good enough to play comfortably.
Re:Adventure games (Score:2)
ScummVM is fantastic for getting the oldies up and running, and thank goodness there are still a few companies putting out new adventure games. Although I play nearly everything, this genre was always high on my list, too, and it's sad it has become the ab
Diner Dash (Score:4, Interesting)
Does anyone here actually enjoy that game?
Hmm... seems pretty accurate (Score:5, Informative)
Super Monkey Ball and Mario (Score:2)
I expect that a GTA like game with little fluffy bunnies would go down a treat
Strangely she didn't like The Sims.
Re:Super Monkey Ball and Mario (Score:2)
Re:Super Monkey Ball and Mario (Score:2)
Re:Super Monkey Ball and Mario (Score:2)
Re:Super Monkey Ball and Mario (Score:2)
I got it and loved it. My wife didn't get very far although she didn't object to it. I think part of the problem is she doesn't like 3D stuff much although she does enjoy Super Monkey Ball which is very 3D. The recent Marios are less popular with her than the old 2D scrollers but she likes Mario Party but then that is more like a board game.
MUDs (Score:3, Interesting)
In addition, MUDs lend themselves to a high level of chat and relationship-building. Women like to meet people and create friendships, and MUDs provide that atmosphere to them.
Re:MUDs (Score:2, Interesting)
As for the type of games I like- Unreal Tournament, Starcraft, puzzle games (minesweeper, Dr. Mario, etc.(though I don't like tetris)), building games (sims, civ, etc.(though most of these simply take too long to play). In general, the best games for me are ones that don't take too long to learn and have short scenarios (or can be saved and are quick to
1 woman's perspective (Score:5, Interesting)
I personally enjoy MMO's( Currently owned by WoW) FPS's like Doom, Halo, UT etc. Platformers cause they're just awesome
Overall its not the genere as much as the quality of the gaming experience that matters to me.
Re:1 woman's perspective (Score:2)
Gambling (Score:2)
It's a heckuva lot cheaper than our last trip to Vegas.
My ladies (Score:3, Insightful)
That one, you know. (Score:2)
The one where she wins by complaining that games are a "waste of time".
Maple Story (Score:1)
Another big one is Gunbound [gunbound.net], in which you pick a little robot, and use angles, force, and wind to shoot other little robots down. Pretty childish and "cute" also.
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Easy answer: (Score:1)
Probably the same games they played in the other 5 articles this week on the same topic...
No.. More... (Score:1)
eh tou... (Score:1)
PUZZLE (Score:1)
My sister actually got a new computer cause she couldn't play SNOOD on OS9.
My wife won't play anything without a touchscreen or a mouse now. She thinks controllers have too high of a learning curve.
She plays
DS: Zoo Keeper
PC: Bejeweled, Insaniquarium, Zuma
GC: Animal Crossings, Wind Waker(a little, not in the fighting areas)
I play... (Score:1)
When I was doing capoeira I used to play Tekken.
Quite a list (Score:2)
my girlfriend (Score:2)
Games females like to play (Score:1)
As far as I can tell, females play all kinds of games, but there are a few genres which females seem to prefer. My current girlfriend loves Pac Pix, Donkey Konga (together with her sister, who thinks it's hilarous) and Yoshi Touch & Go. She gets nervous when she has to play too long at a time. Interestingly, she doesn't like typical "girl games" games like the Urbz or Harvest Moon too much.
My former girlfriend, however, was different. She used to play single player sessions of Mario Party for hours at
Well, here is my list. (Score:4, Informative)
-My sister: Plays The Sims and Animal Crossing a lot. Also, played the heck out of Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine, and is a fan of Wario Ware.
-My mother: She is not into videogames, with the exception of Tetris and Solitaire.
Asking Slashdot about women... (Score:1)
Not sure Slashdot is the best place to ask about women (if we knew about women, we wouldn't be sitting around reading slashdot now, would we?)
What I play (Score:1)
Nintendo (Score:2)
Other game companies, imo, feel that concentrating on large breasts is a priority instead of making killer gameplay that appeals to everyone.
Re:Nintendo (Score:2)
Re:Nintendo (Score:2)
So I like Nintendo? But there is a reason. They make great games. Seriously. But back on the topic of girl gamers.
Let's examine selected Nintendo games to view how they appeal to women.
Mario Kart Double Dash: This game is perfect. There wide variety of players. None of them objectify women. One can play comunitivly and/or competitivly. Combine this with a fun theme and you have a great game that appeals to eve
What women like and don't like (Score:4, Interesting)
Extrapolating from my own experience: I like puzzles (Myst, Lara Croft, etc), economic/strategy games (Civilization I,II,II, Pharaoh/Cleopatra/Caesar III/etc), RPGs (Baldur's Gate, NWN), MUDs, MMORPGS (EQ,DAOC).
Why? Single-player games: I like to take things at my own pace, not be driven by the pace of incoming baddies. I don't like "twitch" games... though I do play Tetris
Multi-player games: Look, Ma, no FPS! Also, in MMORPGS, I, and many female games I know, prefer the so-called "roleplaying servers".
Why no FPS and why choose RP servers?
Fewer hormone-driven male teenage jerks. Nothing like a trash-talking, lecherous, rude 13-16 year-old to turn me off from the "game community". (Or worse, so-called "adults" who behave like immature teenagers! At least the teenagers have the excuse of youth...)
games @ women.com. duh. (Score:2)
just check games @ women.com [skilljam.com]
what a silly question...
I hate the Sims (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I hate the Sims (Score:2)
There are a couple of different things people tend to do with it:-
my wife on tekken (Score:2)
lots (Score:2)
On Computers I play WoW, some puzzle games (like Bejeweled), previously played Myst/Riven, Journeyman Project, 7th Guest, etc...
On Console, we have several generations of Nintendo hardware, Zelda, Mario adventures, Animal Crossing, Gex, Quest, Bomberman, Mario Party, Eternal Darkness.
Tabltop, currently play and run D&D, have run CyberPunk 2020, White Wolf, GURPs, Tales of the Floating Vagabond, Paranoia, and many many more [tm].
Board Games and Card Games - Fluxx, Mystery at the Abbey, Chess, Mahjong,
My wife... (Score:2)
One word....Mario (Score:2, Interesting)
Is this a trick question? (Score:2)
Where do you even start with a question like that?
Stop already (Score:2)
Hide the sausage (Score:2)
Animal Crossing (Score:2)
My daughter's friends REALLY like DDR on the PS/2.
Good features in a game (Score:2, Informative)
Goals that don't just involve blasting everything in sight (like Metal Gear Solid). I get bored easily with first-person shooters.
Goals that involve skill and thought rather than just reaction speed. Battles that require tactical decisions.
My Mother... (Score:2)
I get strange looks in shops when they ask who the game is for and I say it's for my mother. They must think that I'm just someone who assumes that their parents are into the same things.
Mum has completed almost every known Mario, Crash Bandicoot or Spyro game and has steadily upgraded for many
Re:thats more difficult that you think (Score:1)
Re:World of Warcraft... (Score:2)